eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"First off, you're wrong from the get-go stating there are only three trains of political thought in America, how ignorant, therefore the rest is moot." - Maroon
Are you blind as well as moot?
You admitted to not bothering to read. Are you able to read and comprehend; that which blows your indoctrination out of the water?

"The longer we stay under the republican thumb the worst for our country will be but that will all be revealed as time goes by.." - Maroon
Today's lesson: 'The Big Thumb'

Are Bilderberger Z*****ts and their dupes a bigger problem?
The Network Media claims that Muslims and their sharia law (which is terrible) is a BIG threat; BUT
How is it, that MSM ignores who has infiltrated our government and bought our politicians?
Who has any idea of who owns the MSM?
Who has any idea of who has control of “public” education? (common core, text book publishers. Etc.)
Who has any idea of who has control of US foreign policy? (CFR vetted politicians in both parties for decades)
Who has any idea of who has control of our economy? (The private Federal Reserve)
Who has any idea of who is financially enslaving the world, with their usury? Including the USA’s ($20 trillion "debt"), via The FED, IMF, World Bank, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and the rest.
How is it that MSM ignores that Z*****ts have been behind the Muslim and illegal emigrations for decades? (diversity is good has been the NWO propaganda)

Decades of /NeoCON/NWO/ /Bilderberger’s “Foreign Policy” has got America involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Libya, Egypt and ETC. The warmongers are still pushing for Ukraine, Syria and Iran. Our “Allies” have become “enemies” over and over and over! Most recent; the US armed the radical Sunnis (ISIS) in Syria to fight Assad’s Shiite government in Syria. Now the US is fighting the ISIS/Sunni/Al-Qaida slaughter going on in Iraq. The NeoCONs (ie. FOX, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and other CFR pundits), continue to push for attack of the Shiite governments in Syria and Iran.
All Shiites are our enemies according to our Talking Heads on network TV. Just so happens, they do not have Rothschild banks, and are not in debt to them.
Research who attacks who and find out why. Is Israel really our friend?
I can only hope some here take the time to read, research and think this through.
A lot is at stake.
The 911 attack (Google: 911, Building 7 and You Tube it also) was the pretense for 13 years of all our wars. The Bilderberger’s NWO foreign policy is being pushed hard by their bought media. Beware of the Boogie Man! The One that the NWO manipulators created, funded and armed.
The t***h is attainable for anyone who gives a damn, and who takes some time to get to the t***h. Americans are being set up for some really bad turmoil (martial law under Dept. of Homeland Security), and the Powers That Be will deliver their planned “solutions” (Google and You Tube FEMA camps, Agenda 21 for starters).
IMHO - These will be really bad solutions for those that care about liberty, freedom, our standard of living, and our Constitution.

bahmer

Amen and Amen

Doc110 Loc: York PA

Morgan,

1. And yet, not one factual response or fact retort to the OPP Post article.

"The Liberal Socialist Democrat Party Is The Enemy Of The United States."

2. 1. And yet, not one factual response or fact retort to the disprove the article assessment, e.g. "America's political geometry organizations."

Let's be perfectly clear and geometrically accurate:
Conservatism and the conservative viewpoint are not and never have been a wing, "Right-wing", "Far Right Wing."
Politics refers to the activities associated with governance.
When speaking about the level of influence and involvement of the government in our lives, we have two extremes.

1. On the left wing is the liberal-progressive viewpoint that desires more government influence.
The increase of government influence and control eventually leads to tyranny.
2. The opposite wing or right wing is the viewpoint of more individual freedom and minimized government influence.
That is libertarianism, and when pursued to its extreme, it leads to anarchy.
So where is conservatism?
3. Conservatism is geometrically in the center, as it logically wants to "Conserve" the status quo, or, in our American government, the U.S. Constitution.

This is where the liberal socialist cleverness comes in.

By attempting to radicalize and call conservatism a wing and ultraconservatism an extreme wing to the right.
The left turns all forms of compromise toward a moderate so-called middle into movements to the left.
It's a brilliant strategy with unfortunately dire consequences.
For the left, it's "heads, I win, and tails, I don't win as much, but I still win."

True logic would dictate that you initiate any topical debate from the middle, with the conservative viewpoint.
But their is no debate from the far left Liberal Socialism Democrat party. Its just another form of "Liberal F*****m and degradation and name calling which the Liberal left does so well . . .
And then decide if the desired solution requires more government involvement (go left) or reduced government involvement (go right).

a. Another error in political geometry being promoted is the false contrast, that to move farther left leads to socialism and eventually c*******m.
b. While moving to the far right leads to f*****m. This is blatantly false, as libertarianism has nothing in common with f*****m

Go back to your argumentative liberal Troll Hole . . . Your a liberal loser, and you can't win on the factual argument. Because you have not presented any facts to support your liberal argument.

Morgan, all you have is conjecture, Supposition's, Innuendo's, Exaggeration's and 4 Fallacies: Thats all your spewing Fourth . . .
a. "Straw-Man"
b. "Red-Herring"
c. "Ad Hominem" and,
d. “Non-Sequitur” Fallacy.

Morgan, get a life . . .

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

11r20, I am amazed at the ignorance of the people that call themselves conservative on OPP. In no way is liberalism and c*******m related. C*******m is a revolutionary ideology that seeks to destroy " capitalist " society. They believe that capitalism is just another way that the haves repress the have nots. It views all institutions of a capitalist society as a tool to repress workers. Liberalism is a reform movement that seeks to look out for the interests of working folks. It does not seek to o*******w a capitalist society and replace it with a dictatorship. Liberalism wants to make certain that working class people get a fair shake in our country. A few of their goals are health insurance for middle and working class people, better public education, a cleaner environment, an end to r****m of every kind, a way to ensure that the rich can not just buy politicians through donations, etc. None of these goals are revolutionary, just common fairness and decency.
We want to make the society fair for everybody, not just the top one percent in income of this land. We don't seek an end to religion as do c*******ts. We stand for the complete separation of church and state, so that neither the state nor the government can impose it's influence on the other.
The hyperbole of the so called conservatives is terrible, ignorant, and undemocratic!

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Well salty; you must be corrected again. You push your misrepresentations again.
"Liberalism wants to make certain that working class people get a fair shake in our country" - saltwind
The Democrats do that?
The Banking cabal does that?

A lot at stake.
Not many liberals have a grasp of what C*******m delivers. The masses fell for the Bolshevik BS. The Chinese never knew what hit them. The ruthlessness is beyond most people’s comprehension, largely due to lack if studying it. It sure isn't taught in the government school system. Over 200 Million people starved and slaughtered by those regimes.
It is important to differentiate the different brands/sects of "Jew". The term "Jew" is misused a lot, fraudulently, and confusingly.
Judah is one of the 12 tribes of Israel. A Race (Hebrew)
Judaism is a religion (Torah/Old Testament and Talmudic/Babylonian Rabinism)
Jews are also a nationality (Nation of Israeli)
All categories attempt to claim they are the chosen people. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Many hide behind that claim. Most fundamentalist Christian churches don't teach the differences, and fall for that misrepresentation.
Hence, we have impotent churches, and ignorant Christians, that are not aware of the enemies of God/Yahweh within our nation.
Think about who has been trying to drive God out of public education and the public square?
Atheists? Who do you think these atheists are?
The ACLU and the anti-Defamation League (ADL) for starters.

Behind C*******m
Here is a link to the PDF downloadable version
http://jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/Behind%20C*******m.pdf
https://archive.org/details/BehindC*******m_201502
by Frank L Britton. Probably published in 1952.
(free down load from the internet)
This document is well documented from many sources.

Behind C*******m is a short book which explains the connection between C*******m, C*******t activities, and C*******t history and the Jews and Jewish history. Many events in American history related to C*******ts and Jews are also explained.

******* It is important to differentiate the different brands of "Jew". The term "Jew" is misused a lot; fraudulently, and confusingly. It goes all the way back to Cain, the slayer of Abel, and Esau/Edom and Jacob/Israel. Hebrew blood vs NonHebrew blood lines. The Bible tracked those Blood lines for a reason.


All the finger pointing at the Kochs, with varied ideas on who they support. Too much mist***h as usual. The Kochs are the counterpart to Soros and his comrades.
They are parasitic elements working the “Left” and “Right”.
( next will come the anti-Semite Smear, but that is expected)
'Behind C*******m'
circa 1953
By Frank L. Britton
(down loaded from the internet)
When Behind C*******m was first published, the official position of the U.S.S.R. was that Lenin was a Slavic Russian, not a Jew. However, subsequent to the book's publication, following the fall of the Iron Curtain in the mid- 80's, it was finally admitted that, indeed, the monstrous criminal, Vladimir Lenin, was a Jew! (Ashken**im atheist)

THE PERSECUTION MYTH
With Shrill Insistence
We cannot undertake even this brief history of the modern Jew (Ashken**im atheists) without taking note of a phenomenon which has confounded gentile societies for twenty centuries. This is the ability of the Jewish people
to collectively retain their identity despite centuries of exposure to Christian civilization. To any student of Judaism, or to the Jews themselves, this phenomenon is partly explained by the fact that Judaism is neither mainly a religion, nor mainly a racial matter, nor yet is it simply a matter of nationality. Rather it is all three; it is a kind of trinity. Judaism is best described as a nationality built on the twin pillars of race and religion.
All this is closely related to another aspect of Judaism, namely, the persecution myth. Since first appearing in history we find the Jews propagating the idea that they are an abused and persecuted people, and this idea is, and has always been, central in Jewish thinking. The myth of persecution is the adhesive and cement of Judaism; without it Jews would have long since ceased to exist, their racial-religious nationality notwithstanding. Jews do not always agree among themselves, and it is only in the presence of their enemies—real or imagined—that Jewish thinking crystalizes into unanimity. In this respect they differ not at all from other peoples: Adolph Hitler solidified German opinion around the idea that Germany was wronged at Versailles, that the German people
were abused and victimized by the Allies, and that only by holding together could they prevail against the overwhelming might of their enemies ...
For twenty-five centuries the Jewish mind has been conditioned by the same appeal. Through all Jewish thinking and all Jewish history the refrain of persecution has sounded with shrill insistence. Thus we find every accident of fortune being chronicled, enhanced, and passed on to succeeding generations as another example of gentile cruelty to the chosen race. And almost inevitably we find opposition to Jewish aspirations and ambitions being t***slated into these same terms of persecution, and all Jewish shortcomings being excused on the same basis.
Now it is a fact that the Jewish people have suffered numerous hardships in the course of their history, but this is true of other peoples too. The chief difference is that the Jews have kept score — they have made a tradition of persecution. A casual slaughter of Christians
is remembered by no one in 50 years, but a disability visited upon a few Jews is preserved forever in Jewish histories. And they tell their woes not only to themselves, but to a sympathetic world as well . . .
Throughout the Medieval period*, which lasted from 500 A.D. to 1300 A.D., the Jew merchant was dominant all over Europe (except Scandinavia, where he was never permitted to enter) and this dominance included control over the eastern trade routes to the Levant.
There was to be no relief from this situation until the Jews were evicted from Europe in the century directly preceding the Renaissance. In 1215 the Catholic Church, at the Fourth Lateren Council, broke the back of European Jewry with a set of restrictions designed to curb their commercial monopoly. These decrees restricted Jews to residence in their own communities, prohibited absolutely their hiring of Christian employees and prohibited them from engaging in many types of commercial activity.
Expelled
The Fourth Lateran Council restricted Jewish commercial advantage but it did not end the Jewish problem. Beginning in the latter part of the 13th century, one European country after another expelled it's NOTE: Encyclopedia Britannica is used as a reference source because of its ready availability
to the average reader. It is not an "anti-Semitic" publication. In fact, the Encyclopedia Britannica Corporation was purchased by the Julius Rosenwald interests in 1920, and since then all material pertaining to the Jewish question has been re-written to conform to the Jewish outlook.
The FUNK & WAGNALL JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA (see preceding page) is uniformly
referred to throughout this work as the "Jewish Encyclopedia." Consisting of 12 volumes, it is
available in all major libraries. It should not be confused with the 10 volume "Universal Jewish Encyclopedia," published by Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Inc., New York, 1939.
Both, however, are authoritative Jewish publications, compiled by and for Jews.

Jewish population as the only final solution to the problem. First to take the step was England which banned them in 1290. Fifteen yeas later, in 1306, the French followed suit. In steady succession the various States of Europe emulated this example with Spain being one of the
last to enforce the ban in 1492. The situation in Spain is worth noting Says Encyclopedia Britannica1: ". . . The 14th century was the golden age of their history in Spain. In 1391 the preaching of a priest of
Seville, Fernando Martenez, led to the first general massacre of the Jews who were envied for their prosperity and h**ed because they were the king's tax collectors." Ferdinand and Isabella, after uniting Spain and driving out the Moors, turned their attention to the Jewish problem, with the result that they were evicted completely in 1492. In 1498 Portugal evicted its Jewish population also.
The Exploiters
A great deal has been said about the "persecution" of the Jews in Europe and elsewhere, and they have pretty well convinced the world (or at least Americans) that these hardships were inflicted on
an innocent people. But these rich Spanish Jews we see being evicted in 1492 were not down-trodden folk. They were the wealthy, the privileged the exploiters: they were the well-fed merchants and the gouging tax collectors . . …

(For those that care; download the whole pamphlet. It is a free download.)

Doc110 Loc: York PA

salt wind 78,

The OPP Article title: Does Liberalism: . . . Contain The Seeds Of It's Own Destruction ?

11/14/2017 What Calvinism Solves Liberalism: As The American “Anti - Culture.”
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/protestprotest/2017/11/what-calvinism-solves/
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-124190-1.html

1. Does liberalism contain the seeds of its own destruction?
The heart of Deneen’s book is a chapter discussing liberalism as “Anti-Culture.”
Deneen says that liberalism is a “comprehensive effort to displace cultural forms as the ground condition of liberal liberty.”

e.g. This is not political liberalism, of the kind associated, with the "New Deal," "Civil Rights," or the "War on Poverty," the ACA "ObamaCare."

But the liberalism, that gave birth to "Small Government," "Constitutionalism, and "Self-Reliance."

We’re talking about ‘America, here.

Deneen’s argument is essentially that liberalism failed because it succeeded so well in what it set out to do:

Liberate the consciousness of individuals from any restraints that inhibit their autonomous choice.

To be clear, Deneen does not say that liberalism has been a bad thing;

In fact, he says it is simply dishonest to ignore the very good things that have come out of liberalism, and that it is absurd to speak of the pre-liberal past as a golden age to which it would be possible to return.

That said, his book interprets the systemic crisis we’re in now, and which he believes (quite correctly) is going to get much worse, because the center cannot hold….

Well you can read the rest of the Post Article, Why Liberalism Failed. To render a fairly depressing assessment of our times. —


2. Let's not beat to death, a dead horse. . . . So, the question begs to be asked, once again ? Since Saltwind 78 and Morgan are unlikely to think for them-selves . . . .

Since you care not to discuss, debate or retort the question the "America's political geometry organizations." e.g.
Pertaining too activities associated with governance.

This is the crux of the argument, "activities associated with political governance."

Show me where you put these political groups in a category and why ? Remember the political spectrum "Tyranny VS. Anarchy."

Remember the "America's political geometry organizations and governance."

Politics refers to The activities associated with governance.
When speaking about the level of influence and involvement of the government in our lives, we have two extremes.

a. The Left-Wing is the liberal-progressive viewpoint that desires more government influence. The increase of government influence and control eventually leads to Tyranny.
b. The opposite wing or [u]Right-Wing is the viewpoint of more individual freedom and minimized government influence. That is libertarianism, and when pursued to its extreme, it leads to Anarchy.

And don't you both start, by changing the political spectrum fact's around . . . "There are only two American Political-Wings." as discussed.

a. Left-Wing Parties and
b. Right-Wing Parties.
c. So where is conservatism come in and are they the "Center-Wing Party"?

Conservatism is geometrically in the center, as it logically wants to "Conserve" the status quo, or, in our American government, the U.S. Constitution.

a.(Left-Wing) e.g. <<< Socialist, N**i Socialist F*****t party, C*******t, Liberals, Democrats, Progressive. >>>>
b.(Center Wing) e.g. <<< NeoCons Republicans, Republicans, Conservatives, Conservatives Christians, Constitutionalist Parties. >>>
c. (Right-Wing) e.g. <<< Libertarians and Independence parties >>>>

a. Liberal socialist progressive Democrats Party. They are on the Democrat "Left-Wing" side of the American political spectrum.
b. Conservative Republicans (Center-Wing Party) that are in the "Center" of the American Political spectrum. Conservative actually means status Quo. Or following the rule of law . . .
c. Libertarians and Independence Parties. They are on the "Right-Wing" side of the American political spectrum.


Finally ant to make my point on this discussion. Does Liberalism: . . . Contain The Seeds Of It's Own Destruction ?

That said, his book interprets the systemic crisis we’re in now, and which he believes (quite correctly) is going to get much worse, . . .

because the center cannot hold…. and who is the Center, ? Which is "opposed" to the Left-Wing or to the Right-Wing political governance.

None and the only Center-Wing party, . . . "Conservatism is geometrically in the center, as it logically wants to "Conserve" the status quo, or, in our American government, e.g. the U.S. Constitution and the "Rule of Law."

1. Does liberalism contain the seeds of its own destruction?
The heart of Deneen’s book is a chapter discussing liberalism as “Anti-Culture.”
Deneen says that liberalism is a “comprehensive effort to displace cultural forms as the ground condition of liberal liberty.”

Well you can read the rest of the Post Article, Why Liberalism Failed. To render a fairly depressing assessment of our times. —


Your just blabbering, ignorant liberal simpletons . . . . get your facts correct, Be more intelligent and stop being a liberal broom-handle's. . .