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Jan 28, 2018 18:43:44   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Much to my disappointment Trump offered the Democrats more than they’ve been asking for as far as DACA is concerned Taking a play out of Arafat’s play book Chucky said no thanks.
What is it they want but don’t have the balls to admit?

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Jan 28, 2018 19:11:45   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
JFlorio wrote:
Much to my disappointment Trump offered the Democrats more than they’ve been asking for as far as DACA is concerned Taking a play out of Arafat’s play book Chucky said no thanks.
What is it they want but don’t have the balls to admit?


You know what they want,Jim....They want to destroy President Trump by any means necessary!!So no matter what he says or does those bastards are gonna resist him all the way!!! I really would like to see what will happen tomorrow during his State of the Union Address!!! I bet they gonna booo him every time he would speak!!

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Jan 28, 2018 19:16:23   #
Gatsby
 
It seems to me that perhaps President Trump is asking for as much as he is offering.

He wants an end to chain migration, that is a must do.

He wants an end to the diversity lottery, that too is a worthwhile objective.

He wants an extended period of 10 to 12 years to become a citizen, dependent upon good behavior.

He wants the money appropriated to build the wall, not just worthless democratic promises.

If he gets all of that, it may be a good deal, but the democrats will never buy it.

However, at this point he's still just "cutting bait", we will soon see just what he's really fishing for.

JFlorio wrote:
Much to my disappointment Trump offered the Democrats more than they’ve been asking for as far as DACA is concerned Taking a play out of Arafat’s play book Chucky said no thanks.
What is it they want but don’t have the balls to admit?

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Jan 28, 2018 21:10:24   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I agree somewhat. Amnesty always brings more. The message will be just sneak in. Takes years for them to solve anything by the time they do probably get amnestybagain.
Gatsby wrote:
It seems to me that perhaps President Trump is asking for as much as he is offering.

He wants an end to chain migration, that is a must do.

He wants an end to the diversity lottery, that too is a worthwhile objective.

He wants an extended period of 10 to 12 years to become a citizen, dependent upon good behavior.

He wants the money appropriated to build the wall, not just worthless democratic promises.

If he gets all of that, it may be a good deal, but the democrats will never buy it.

However, at this point he's still just "cutting bait", we will soon see just what he's really fishing for.
It seems to me that perhaps President Trump is ask... (show quote)

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Jan 28, 2018 21:54:30   #
Gatsby
 
I can see no reason why these individuals should ever be granted U.S. citizenship.

They are all aliens, citizens of other nations. They should be offered no more than

the same legal status afforded any other registered aliens, dependent upon good behavior.

No citizenship, ever, for anyone here in violation of our i*********n l*ws.

The same for anchor babies, if their parents had no legal status here, then they

should be considered citizens of their parents home country (s).


JFlorio wrote:
I agree somewhat. Amnesty always brings more. The message will be just sneak in. Takes years for them to solve anything by the time they do probably get amnestybagain.

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Jan 29, 2018 00:20:35   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I honestly (hope) think Trump is setting Schumer up. Not that difficult Ol Chucky boy is an a tough pickle. If he shuts the govt. down over DACA he can’t win. If he takes Trumps deal his lunatic base goes nuts. If he does nothing DACA ends in March. Bye, bye kiddies.
Gatsby wrote:
I can see no reason why these individuals should ever be granted U.S. citizenship.

They are all aliens, citizens of other nations. They should be offered no more than

the same legal status afforded any other registered aliens, dependent upon good behavior.

No citizenship, ever, for anyone here in violation of our i*********n l*ws.

The same for anchor babies, if their parents had no legal status here, then they

should be considered citizens of their parents home country (s).
I can see no reason why these individuals should e... (show quote)

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Jan 29, 2018 08:55:33   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
JFlorio wrote:
I honestly (hope) think Trump is setting Schumer up. Not that difficult Ol Chucky boy is an a tough pickle. If he shuts the govt. down over DACA he can’t win. If he takes Trumps deal his lunatic base goes nuts. If he does nothing DACA ends in March. Bye, bye kiddies.


As Sherlock said to Watson, by jove old chap, I think you solved it.


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Jan 29, 2018 09:14:49   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JFlorio wrote:
I honestly (hope) think Trump is setting Schumer up. Not that difficult Ol Chucky boy is an a tough pickle. If he shuts the govt. down over DACA he can’t win. If he takes Trumps deal his lunatic base goes nuts. If he does nothing DACA ends in March. Bye, bye kiddies.


I think you are right.. if Schummer forces a shut down again (which i dont think he will do) then all offers made about DACA get shut down too..

They are afraid to run with that angel this time after they saw Trump will let it shutdown.. Kind of takes their advantage away now...

They will run it right to the last day and then v**e.. In the interm they will haggle for every little thing so they look good with wh**ever the deal is....Trump knows he's got to givd something for the dems to save face...

Damn pathetic the games and blackmail played on criminal hill!!

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Jan 29, 2018 09:15:34   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Peewee wrote:
As Sherlock said to Watson, by jove old chap, I think you solved it.

As Sherlock said to Watson, by jove old chap, I th... (show quote)


Lolol , yes!!!!!

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Jan 29, 2018 09:51:48   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
lindajoy, I also have thought of another Democratic ulterior motive. It's so evil I didn't think of it before. I can see where the Dem's won't do anything until deportations start to take place. Then use all the chaos to their advantage and fire up their base with all their stupid comments about the poor children. We already know they do not care about the personal well being of these people. They just want to have a v****g block.
lindajoy wrote:
I think you are right.. if Schummer forces a shut down again (which i dont think he will do) then all offers made about DACA get shut down too..

They are afraid to run with that angel this time after they saw Trump will let it shutdown.. Kind of takes their advantage away now...

They will run it right to the last day and then v**e.. In the interm they will haggle for every little thing so they look good with wh**ever the deal is....Trump knows he's got to givd something for the dems to save face...

Damn pathetic the games and blackmail played on criminal hill!!
I think you are right.. if Schummer forces a shut ... (show quote)

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Jan 29, 2018 09:58:03   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JFlorio wrote:
lindajoy, I also have thought of another Democratic ulterior motive. It's so evil I didn't think of it before. I can see where the Dem's won't do anything until deportations start to take place. Then use all the chaos to their advantage and fire up their base with all their stupid comments about the poor children. We already know they do not care about the personal well being of these people. They just want to have a v****g block.


Without doubt!! And you can bet thats all the people will hear too.

The damn Republicians are terrible for getting ther reasoning behind something out to the people...

You would think they know this and but for Trump letting everything out forcing motives and action by Congress they are absolute wimps!!

They really don't want to v**e against DACA either but they will it expire!! Then no one is to blame....!

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Jan 29, 2018 11:22:18   #
TrueAmerican
 
DACA should expire it was illegal to begin with !!!!!!

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Jan 29, 2018 14:49:46   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
TrueAmerican wrote:
DACA should expire it was illegal to begin with !!!!!!


Yes, it was but what better way for more i******s to be brought in!!! Thank You, BO!!
Just exactly what he was trying to do!!

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Jan 29, 2018 17:12:34   #
maryjane
 
Gatsby, I agree with you. The birthright citizenship (anchor baby) policy is something we, desperately, need changed. It has led to so many other issues, especially a REASON for so many Mexican i******s being here. They know, the whole world knows, that if they can just get here, by hook or crook, and have a baby citizen, the chances of being made to leave, EVER, are slim to none. And then, there are the enormous benefits they accrue, legally, due to that anchor baby. Changing this one law could have a positive effect on other aspects of immigration.

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