Medicare for All would save billions, and could be distributive.
Apr 8, 2013 09:21:15 #
Obviously absolute t***h - I've already seen that with Medicaid.
Applause for truth
Apr 8, 2013 09:22:41 #
@ Trooper745
Obviously absolute t***h - I've already seen that with Medicaid.
Obviously absolute t***h - I've already seen that with Medicaid.
Applause for truth
Apr 8, 2013 13:51:05 #
Wel Oldroy it has already started. A friend of mine who has cancer has already been refused cemo. I have been treating skin cancer for several years. So far I'm on top of it. I'm holding my breath though. I'm 82 so I may lose the treatments also.
Apr 8, 2013 14:10:27 #
Just take solace, donc711, in the fact that those politicians, and the President, who decided to give us limited care under the Obama Plan, won't be subject to Obamacare. They have a separate and "special" healthcare plan that will spend unlimited millions of taxpayer dollars on them as long as they have some brain activity.
Apr 8, 2013 15:29:34 #
Dave
Loc: Upstate New York
tombrady wrote:
medicare has a 5% overhead compare to private insurance companies 30%-35% ( if you include there 10-15% profit).. one reason republicans objected to the public option on healthcare it would drive private insurance out of buisness becasue the couldnt compete. even republicans in congress admit that medicare is cheaper. if im giving a choice to buy the same plan at 30% cheaper i know where im going
Tom - do you really believe Medicare runs a more cost effective program than private insurers? You do realize, I'm sure, that private insurers must maintain their books in a legally prescribed manner - rules that do not apply to government accounting. I don't know what Republicans you think endorse Medicare as a cost effective operation, but whomever they are being Republican does not make them correct. How many times have you heard of fraudulent claims with private insurers? How many times have you heard the same about Medicare/Medicaid.
If you really believe a government run single payer system would somehow be an improvement, try a little thought experiement. Suppose we had a single payer grocery program - each person could go and get what they felt they wanted or needed from the super market, and the government would pick up the tab. Do you suppose the quantity and quality of food would remain the same or increase?
Apr 8, 2013 15:43:23 #
"If you really believe a government run single payer system would somehow be an improvement, try a little thought experiement. Suppose we had a single payer grocery program - each person could go and get what they felt they wanted or needed from the super market, and the government would pick up the tab. Do you suppose the quantity and quality of food would remain the same or increase?"
Great example, Dave!!
Additionally, there is NO incentive to stick to budgets in the federal government. Example: our $6,000,000,000 debt run up solely by the US Congress. Private enterprise cannot print money like the government can - and it can't drive up taxpayer debt like the feds can. When the economy collapses later this year, probably, what will Tom do for medical care then?
Great example, Dave!!
Additionally, there is NO incentive to stick to budgets in the federal government. Example: our $6,000,000,000 debt run up solely by the US Congress. Private enterprise cannot print money like the government can - and it can't drive up taxpayer debt like the feds can. When the economy collapses later this year, probably, what will Tom do for medical care then?
Apr 8, 2013 16:00:37 #
oldroy
Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
Trooper745 wrote:
First, let's stop using the euphemism of "sin... (show quote)
Outstanding attempt to inform THEM about what they need to know. Of course, they won't understand since I did. Keep trying and remember when you answer one of THEM to use the quote feature.
Apr 8, 2013 17:59:48 #
Brain activity? There's not half a brain within the whole bunch all added together. Yeah I know they are all covered for the best care possible with our tax dollars.
Apr 9, 2013 21:58:41 #
oldroy
Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
Trooper745 wrote:
First, let's stop using the euphemism of "sin... (show quote)
I wonder how much I paid into Medicare between 1965 when it b became part of our society and 1997 when I had to go on it to have any insurance. I know that I have been paying over $100 each month since 1997. They withhold it from my Social Security check.
Do you not know that they plan to hold $70 billion out of Medicare each year for ten years after Obamacare goes into effect. That makes me wonder just how much will be taken out by those damnable old people.
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