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Mar 17, 2014 22:35:57   #
scottyb
 
The Dutchman wrote:
Like the i***ts when they say that liberals are the tolerant ones, "as long as you agree with them"


I have a race and a g****r and a sexual orientation. Guess which race and g****r and orientation. I don't have government sanctioned special treatment status.

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Mar 17, 2014 22:51:18   #
The Dutchman
 
rumitoid wrote:
His comments were not r****t, simply poorly conceived. Somewhat of a stretch to take them as r****t. But one has to wonder how he wandered into the direct path of bigotry.


The socialistic liberal dumbohcraps have led us down this path trying to keep b***k A******ns chained to their government controlled ghettos....

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Mar 17, 2014 22:54:41   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
scottyb wrote:
I have a race and a g****r and a sexual orientation. Guess which race and g****r and orientation. I don't have government sanctioned special treatment status.


Even my wife has special status. As a woman, she is a member of the world's only 54% minority. Take heart: If what the prognosticators say is true, middle-aged, white males will soon be a minority, then we will be free to demand our own special status and perks. We have all sorts of stuff we can be offended about.

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Mar 17, 2014 23:02:04   #
Hungry Freaks
 
Ryan isn't a r****t for talking about welfare the way he does. He just has a short memory for a person of Irish descent.

Back in the mid-19th Century, as the potato blight brought widespread famine to ireland (and Ryan's grandfather to the US) England continued to export grain and livestock from their holdings on the Emerald Island.

The idea among the ruling class in England was that any attempt to help the poor and starving in Ireland would be bad for their character; that people were poor because they were bad and weak and that any attempt to help them would be mucking about with the natural order of things.

So the English continued to export food from a land suffering widespread famine.

Ryan, now having made his way to the ruling class in the United States, seems to have forgotten his roots.

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Mar 17, 2014 23:03:43   #
Hungry Freaks
 
banjojack wrote:
Outstanding post. It reflects my experience in the Bahamas, where I was employed for about six months. Some of the friendliest, most courteous, likeable folks I've met, for the most part. I had the same experience with Nigerians. Not Africans in general, Nigerians.


Kind of makes you want to go back, doesn't it Banjo? the sand, the beaches, the sanity among the natives....not paradise, but close enough.

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Mar 17, 2014 23:07:08   #
scottyb
 
banjojack wrote:
Even my wife has special status. As a woman, she is a member of the world's only 54% minority. Take heart: If what the prognosticators say is true, middle-aged, white males will soon be a minority, then we will be free to demand our own special status and perks. We have all sorts of stuff we can be offended about.


Hey Jack! You got some imagination if you reckon we will get a break. Your wife is a minority she has to deal with you. Poor gal.

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Mar 18, 2014 07:58:22   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Hungry Freaks wrote:
Ryan isn't a r****t for talking about welfare the way he does. He just has a short memory for a person of Irish descent.

Back in the mid-19th Century, as the potato blight brought widespread famine to ireland (and Ryan's grandfather to the US) England continued to export grain and livestock from their holdings on the Emerald Island.

The idea among the ruling class in England was that any attempt to help the poor and starving in Ireland would be bad for their character; that people were poor because they were bad and weak and that any attempt to help them would be mucking about with the natural order of things.

So the English continued to export food from a land suffering widespread famine.

Ryan, now having made his way to the ruling class in the United States, seems to have forgotten his roots.
Ryan isn't a r****t for talking about welfare the ... (show quote)


The Irish who came to this country got jobs, not welfare. While the situation is obviously different, there was a work ethic, rather than an entitlement mentality. Of course, in the 19th Century, there were no entitlements to be had, so there wasn't much choice in the matter. There was no such thing as a "job an American wouldn't do," because the alternative was far less appealing. The reason, today, that there are "jobs that Americans won't do," is twofold: One is the fact that there are less jobs, and the other is that, unlike during the great Irish immigration period, today there is a choice.

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Mar 18, 2014 10:49:40   #
ibKelly
 
In reading some of these post... including me... since the b****s have said we can't call them the 'N' word anymore... it's now banned... what about banning the word R****T... which the B****s delight in calling every one who disagrees with them... mainly the W****S!!

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Mar 18, 2014 11:23:31   #
Hungry Freaks
 
The Irish were depicted as lazy, drunken people often referred to as "white n****rs" by other Anglo Americans at the time. They had extremely high rates of unemployment and some did indeed suffer from alcoholism.

The Irish gangs in NYC and other major citizens led to the belief that the Irish were somehow genetically predisposed to crime.

Having not been alive at the time, I can't say exactly how the Irish became part of the mainstream, but in NYC it had a lot to do with their eventual political organization. Boss Tweed and his cohorts in Tammany Hall help the Irish become part of the government workforce.

And the Catholic Church, which was subject to it's own form of discrimination in much of the 19th Century US, also played a part in the social welfare of the Irish.

Sure, there are no apples to apples comparisons. But you'd think Ryan would look back to England and how they let his descendants starve while exporting food from Ireland. You'd think this would lead to something more than a "people who are on welfare are lazy and not looking for work." attitude.

Another interesting figure:

Food stamps cost about $3 billion a year.
Tax loopholes for profitable oil companies cost more than $4 billion in lost revenue a year.
Tax cuts granted last year to the top 5% income earners in the US will cost cost $2 trillion in future lost revenue.
Cost overruns from the F-35 fighter were $9 billion in the past two years.

Root out fraud in any expenditure of public money, for sure. Eliminate loopholes and institute a flat tax without loopholes. And cut waste in defense contracting. But deny food to the hungry? Not me, jack.



banjojack wrote:
The Irish who came to this country got jobs, not welfare. While the situation is obviously different, there was a work ethic, rather than an entitlement mentality. Of course, in the 19th Century, there were no entitlements to be had, so there wasn't much choice in the matter. There was no such thing as a "job an American wouldn't do," because the alternative was far less appealing. The reason, today, that there are "jobs that Americans won't do," is twofold: One is the fact that there are less jobs, and the other is that, unlike during the great Irish immigration period, today there is a choice.
The Irish who came to this country got jobs, not w... (show quote)

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Mar 18, 2014 12:22:02   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Hungry Freaks wrote:
The Irish were depicted as lazy, drunken people often referred to as "white n****rs" by other Anglo Americans at the time. They had extremely high rates of unemployment and some did indeed suffer from alcoholism.

The Irish gangs in NYC and other major citizens led to the belief that the Irish were somehow genetically predisposed to crime.

Having not been alive at the time, I can't say exactly how the Irish became part of the mainstream, but in NYC it had a lot to do with their eventual political organization. Boss Tweed and his cohorts in Tammany Hall help the Irish become part of the government workforce.

And the Catholic Church, which was subject to it's own form of discrimination in much of the 19th Century US, also played a part in the social welfare of the Irish.

Sure, there are no apples to apples comparisons. But you'd think Ryan would look back to England and how they let his descendants starve while exporting food from Ireland. You'd think this would lead to something more than a "people who are on welfare are lazy and not looking for work." attitude.

Another interesting figure:

Food stamps cost about $3 billion a year.
Tax loopholes for profitable oil companies cost more than $4 billion in lost revenue a year.
Tax cuts granted last year to the top 5% income earners in the US will cost cost $2 trillion in future lost revenue.
Cost overruns from the F-35 fighter were $9 billion in the past two years.

Root out fraud in any expenditure of public money, for sure. Eliminate loopholes and institute a flat tax without loopholes. And cut waste in defense contracting. But deny food to the hungry? Not me, jack.
The Irish were depicted as lazy, drunken people of... (show quote)


My problem is not with needy Americans receiving Food Stamps. I got them for a few months myself while recovering from a couple of major surgeries. My problem is with i******s receiving benefits they are either not entitled to, or should not be entitled to. Do you know how many Latinas come here either pregnant, or with the intention of becoming that way as soon as possible? We spent $84 billion last year alone on wetback welfare. This is money that is supposed to be spent on needy American citizens. Every time I see an elderly, or disabled American Citizen scrabbling, and go to to the store and see wetbacks with 10 kids and a thousand dollar EBT card, it infuriates me.

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Mar 18, 2014 12:34:19   #
The Dutchman
 
banjojack wrote:
The Irish who came to this country got jobs, not welfare. While the situation is obviously different, there was a work ethic, rather than an entitlement mentality. Of course, in the 19th Century, there were no entitlements to be had, so there wasn't much choice in the matter. There was no such thing as a "job an American wouldn't do," because the alternative was far less appealing. The reason, today, that there are "jobs that Americans won't do," is twofold: One is the fact that there are less jobs, and the other is that, unlike during the great Irish immigration period, today there is a choice.
The Irish who came to this country got jobs, not w... (show quote)


Wasn't the great famine of the mid 1800's the driving factor in the great Irish migration into the US?

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Mar 18, 2014 12:50:31   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
The Dutchman wrote:
Wasn't the great famine of the mid 1800's the driving factor in the great Irish migration into the US?


In large part. Famine, and Irish tenant farmers being evicted by the English Lords our buddy Brian Devon so desperately wishes to be a subject of, so he can have some proper aristocracy to grovel in front of.

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Mar 18, 2014 19:25:26   #
The Dutchman
 
The Dutchman wrote:
Wasn't the great famine of the mid 1800's the driving factor in the great Irish migration into the US?

banjojack wrote:
In large part. Famine, and Irish tenant farmers being evicted by the English Lords our buddy Brian Devon so desperately wishes to be a subject of, so he can have some proper aristocracy to grovel in front of.


Banjo Jack, Why the vulgarity in your reply?

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Mar 18, 2014 20:21:33   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
The Dutchman wrote:
The Dutchman wrote:
Wasn't the great famine of the mid 1800's the driving factor in the great Irish migration into the US?



Banjo Jack, Why the vulgarity in your reply?


It's a vulgar subject.

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Mar 21, 2014 01:01:09   #
ibKelly
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Yes, to suit their own agenda. It just like those who dare disagree with Obama are called r****t. That is what one does when they cannot refute facts.


What can the so called 'r****ts' call another who calls them 'r****ts'....?? Surely there's such a word equal to that.................

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