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Jihad for the sake of Allah means fighting the Infidels to make them convert to Islam; enslaving infidels is one of the virtues of Islam-
Jan 10, 2018 16:13:19   #
thebigp
 
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On November 7, Kuwaiti cleric Sheikh Saalim Bin Sa'd At-Taweel published a lecture on his official YouTube channel explaining the concept of jihad. Sheikh At-Taweel said that while jihad has different meanings, "jihad for the sake of Allah" means fighting infidels in order to spread Islam. He further explained that s***ery is part of Islam and that Muslims should not try to deny this. In fact, he said, s***ery is "one of the virtues of Islam" because it provides infidels with an opportunity to become Muslims and avoid the Hellfire. Over the past decade, Sheikh At-Taweel has visited the U.S. several times, and was guest lecturer in mosques in Worcester, Massachusetts, Modesto, California, New York, and elsewhere. In 2016, he participated in the 3rd Annual U.K. National Knowledge Conference.
"When We Speak About Jihad For The Sake Of Allah, We Mean Fighting For The Sake Of Allah"
Saalim Bin Sa'd At-Taweel: "When we speak about Jihad for the sake of Allah, we mean fighting for the sake of Allah. The word 'Jihad' has other meanings apart from 'fighting.' 'Fighting' is only one of the meanings of the word 'Jihad,' but 'Jihad for the sake of Allah' refers to 'fighting.'
"Indeed, [Jihad] is the pinnacle of Islam. If Islam were a camel, Jihad for the sake of Allah would be the top of its hump. The Prophet Muhammad called it the pinnacle of Islam. It is undoubtedly among the best forms of worship. It involves the sacrifice of one's soul and one's money, and great effort merits great reward.
"Yes, there is defensive Jihad and offensive Jihad. Defensive Jihad means defending yourself. When you need to defend yourself, you do not need a fatwa. When you are attacked, you are allowed to defend yourself any way you can.
"Waging Offensive Jihad Means Attacking The Infidels In Order To Conquer Their Countries"; We Fight "In Order To Spread Islam"
"Waging offensive Jihad means attacking the infidels in order to conquer their countries and bring them into the fold of Islam.
"If they refuse to convert to Islam, they are commanded to pay the jizya poll tax, and if they refuse to pay the jizya, they are k**led. This is called 'offensive Jihad.'
"Indeed, the greatest goal of Jihad for the sake of Allah is to instate monotheism, 'until religion belongs to Allah alone,' or 'until religion belongs to Allah,' according to another verse. 'Fight them until there is no more fitna' – which means polytheism – 'until religion belongs to Allah alone,' or in other words, until people adhere to monotheism and believe in Allah alone. This is a clear and unambiguous verse in the Quran. According to the Sunna, as it appears in the two Sahih compilations, the Prophet Muhammad said: 'I was ordered to fight the people.' Why? He said: 'until they attest that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is His prophet, and they establish prayer, and pay the zakkat.'
"The reason we fight is in order to spread Islam. Let's say there is someone who prevents you from spreading Islam to all the infidels, all people on Earth, who were created by Allah so that they could worship Him. You want to spread your religion both to jinns and to people.
"If somebody is preventing you from doing so, you may fight him, so that you can spread Islam.
"We do not do this in order to take the money of [the infidels], in order to expand the Muslim lands, or in order to gain control over them... No. We fight them so that they will become Muslims.
"One Of The Virtues Of Islam Is That The Women And Children [Of The Enemy]... Are Taken As S***es"
"One of the virtues of Islam is that the women and children [of the enemy] are not k**led. They are taken as s***es, and they are treated well. They are called upon to convert to Islam. How many Muslim ulema were white s***es, who were put to use by Allah as Islamic scholars. If they had died as infidels, they would have been condemned to eternal Hellfire. Instead, they were taken captive.
"The Prophet Muhammad took a Jewish woman and married her, and she became the Mother of the Believers. Imagine that! She had been Jewish before.
"Had she died believing in her distorted Judaism, she would have gone to Hell. Instead, she was taken captive, and she was found to be the most suitable woman for the Prophet Muhammad.
"So this is one of the virtues of Islam, but some people are trying to shrug it off, and say: 'There is no s***ery in Islam.' How can you say this? It is in the Quran.
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Jan 10, 2018 18:26:37   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
thebigp wrote:
-341h.,b7
On November 7, Kuwaiti cleric Sheikh Saalim Bin Sa'd At-Taweel published a lecture on his official YouTube channel explaining the concept of jihad. Sheikh At-Taweel said that while jihad has different meanings, "jihad for the sake of Allah" means fighting infidels in order to spread Islam. He further explained that s***ery is part of Islam and that Muslims should not try to deny this. In fact, he said, s***ery is "one of the virtues of Islam" because it provides infidels with an opportunity to become Muslims and avoid the Hellfire. Over the past decade, Sheikh At-Taweel has visited the U.S. several times, and was guest lecturer in mosques in Worcester, Massachusetts, Modesto, California, New York, and elsewhere. In 2016, he participated in the 3rd Annual U.K. National Knowledge Conference.
"When We Speak About Jihad For The Sake Of Allah, We Mean Fighting For The Sake Of Allah"
Saalim Bin Sa'd At-Taweel: "When we speak about Jihad for the sake of Allah, we mean fighting for the sake of Allah. The word 'Jihad' has other meanings apart from 'fighting.' 'Fighting' is only one of the meanings of the word 'Jihad,' but 'Jihad for the sake of Allah' refers to 'fighting.'
"Indeed, [Jihad] is the pinnacle of Islam. If Islam were a camel, Jihad for the sake of Allah would be the top of its hump. The Prophet Muhammad called it the pinnacle of Islam. It is undoubtedly among the best forms of worship. It involves the sacrifice of one's soul and one's money, and great effort merits great reward.
"Yes, there is defensive Jihad and offensive Jihad. Defensive Jihad means defending yourself. When you need to defend yourself, you do not need a fatwa. When you are attacked, you are allowed to defend yourself any way you can.
"Waging Offensive Jihad Means Attacking The Infidels In Order To Conquer Their Countries"; We Fight "In Order To Spread Islam"
"Waging offensive Jihad means attacking the infidels in order to conquer their countries and bring them into the fold of Islam.
"If they refuse to convert to Islam, they are commanded to pay the jizya poll tax, and if they refuse to pay the jizya, they are k**led. This is called 'offensive Jihad.'
"Indeed, the greatest goal of Jihad for the sake of Allah is to instate monotheism, 'until religion belongs to Allah alone,' or 'until religion belongs to Allah,' according to another verse. 'Fight them until there is no more fitna' – which means polytheism – 'until religion belongs to Allah alone,' or in other words, until people adhere to monotheism and believe in Allah alone. This is a clear and unambiguous verse in the Quran. According to the Sunna, as it appears in the two Sahih compilations, the Prophet Muhammad said: 'I was ordered to fight the people.' Why? He said: 'until they attest that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is His prophet, and they establish prayer, and pay the zakkat.'
"The reason we fight is in order to spread Islam. Let's say there is someone who prevents you from spreading Islam to all the infidels, all people on Earth, who were created by Allah so that they could worship Him. You want to spread your religion both to jinns and to people.
"If somebody is preventing you from doing so, you may fight him, so that you can spread Islam.
"We do not do this in order to take the money of [the infidels], in order to expand the Muslim lands, or in order to gain control over them... No. We fight them so that they will become Muslims.
"One Of The Virtues Of Islam Is That The Women And Children [Of The Enemy]... Are Taken As S***es"
"One of the virtues of Islam is that the women and children [of the enemy] are not k**led. They are taken as s***es, and they are treated well. They are called upon to convert to Islam. How many Muslim ulema were white s***es, who were put to use by Allah as Islamic scholars. If they had died as infidels, they would have been condemned to eternal Hellfire. Instead, they were taken captive.
"The Prophet Muhammad took a Jewish woman and married her, and she became the Mother of the Believers. Imagine that! She had been Jewish before.
"Had she died believing in her distorted Judaism, she would have gone to Hell. Instead, she was taken captive, and she was found to be the most suitable woman for the Prophet Muhammad.
"So this is one of the virtues of Islam, but some people are trying to shrug it off, and say: 'There is no s***ery in Islam.' How can you say this? It is in the Quran.
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Ric
How could I have been so confused.I always thought these people were a barbaric ,soulless cult and it turns out all they want is to save me from Hellfire.Wow how could I have misinterpreted these kind loving people when they throw folks off buildings,cut off their heads,stone them and of course the always popular burning them alive.Well live and learn that’s all we can do.Maybe they do these things to get a slow Saturday night going,after all they need to relax after a hard week of saving souls from Hellfire.

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Apr 20, 2019 02:31:36   #
redpill Loc: Oregon - not PDX
 
The threads on the horrors of Islam here on OPP are many going back quite a few years. With the apologists running rampant again, perhaps a refresher. For some reason I dug into the nature of Islam and had an exchange with an old high school friend.... I share

[me]
Long treatise Pretty thorough. Eye opening for me.
Of particular eye-brow raising is the concept of abrogation.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101

Bumped into this on the site called OnePoliticalPlace. It is a forum for folks to share news stories of interest to them and then comment on. Can get heated. If you join, I am "redpill".
[friend]
A pretty h**eful site in its own right. I don’t follow such crap. I try to be a man of peace with all. (referring to the link not OPP)
[me]
Sorry for sending this. I try to learn about many issues and this is one of them. Peace
[friend]
I understand the need to know. However this source is bought and paid for and reputation is pretty unbalanced. It also groups every one of that religion into a terrorizing barbarian group. Visit a mosque that welcomes Christians. Certainly some of the things they cite from history did happen. Remember we nuked civilians twice and owned s***es and we still celebrate both.
[me]
I too am doing my research. Bought and paid for does not necessarily mean wrong, but probably does mean less than forth coming in many respects. So your reply got me thinking. Just how many sects are there to Islam and are they all the same? Surely I should have been able to easily say..duh. But having not studied this at all, I figured it was time to educate myself. I am not done by a long stretch.

As for branding everyone of that religion as being a terrorizing barbarian group, that designation is absolutely disingenuous. The little research I have done has shown me that there is a plethora of sects. Some completely non-violent, others not so. So the rhetoric saying Muslims are violent is off, as are the apologies that they are a religion of peace. Neither is true. That is because there is no such thing as a "Muslim". Just as there is no such thing as a "Christian". Some Christians will fight and die and commit atrocities and some would not/do not hurt any living thing. They are not the same group of people.

Your post fits well into the type of discussions that go on in OnePoliticalPlace.

I saw your later post but wanted to respond here so I could review your message in this post. I have not reviewed your link yet but will.
Here's some links I found that points out the differences in sects... interesting... sure would like to see a chart of the time frame of founding and how the sects broke off. That would help me understand better.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_schools_and_branches#Population_of_the_branches

https://themuslimtimes.info/2019/03/12/is-there-a-link-between-islam-and-terrorism/

peace
[end of exchange ... just felt it was not worth the effort any more]

My l*****t friend used the well established diversion tactic of stating How Horrible We Are, so How Do We Have A Leg To Stand On When We Complain About Others. The old ...Bad Us, Good Them ... BS. I personally think a couple of nukes was a good thing and did not represent any worse crime than what was happening in Europe; and the bombing of the civilians of London. If Hitler had nukes, he would have used dozens of them.

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