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Job creation: Obama's last SIX years: 203,000 per month; Trump's first year: 174,000
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Dec 30, 2017 13:44:32   #
Tgards79
 
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics. The official data. Oops, it should have been Trump: 170,000.

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Dec 30, 2017 16:10:07   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Tgards79 wrote:
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics. The official data. Oops, it should have been Trump: 170,000.


As a matter of fact, Trump's first year in office he beat the crap out of Obama's job creation in his first year.

http://www.washington
You probably don't know that any incoming president's first year budget has already been decided by the outgoing administration. The new fiscal year starts in October. It is not a valid comparison, but I wouldn't expect a Liberal to know that. September 30 of 2018 will mark the first year of Trump's fiscal policies. His first years budget was, after all, approved by Obama. It did considerably better than Obama's first year.

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Dec 30, 2017 16:14:46   #
Tgards79
 
Loki wrote:
As a matter of fact, Trump's first year in office he beat the crap out of Obama's job creation in his first year.

http://www.washington
You probably don't know that any incoming president's first year budget has already been decided by the outgoing administration. The new fiscal year starts in October. It is not a valid comparison, but I wouldn't expect a Liberal to know that. September 30 of 2018 will mark the first year of Trump's fiscal policies. His first years budget was, after all, approved by Obama. It did considerably better than Obama's first year.
As a matter of fact, Trump's first year in office ... (show quote)
Are you kidding me? The economy -- the nation -- under Bush, was falling apart! It is useless arguing with you people if that is your idea of evidence. Trump is coasting on the Obama economy. Obama had to turn around the near-Depression -- minus 7% GDP!!!! ---- that Bush handed him.

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Dec 30, 2017 16:34:36   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
Tgards79 wrote:
Are you kidding me? The economy -- the nation -- under Bush, was falling apart! It is useless arguing with you people if that is your idea of evidence. Trump is coasting on the Obama economy. Obama had to turn around the near-Depression -- minus 7% GDP!!!! ---- that Bush handed him.


Nah, when Obama won the white house the economy took a down ward trend, when T***p w*n the White House, everybody including me went out and spent money and so on. Why, because of the confidence of the people. It's plain as black and white, pun intended.Lol you loser.

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Dec 30, 2017 16:38:16   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Tgards79 wrote:
Are you kidding me? The economy -- the nation -- under Bush, was falling apart! It is useless arguing with you people if that is your idea of evidence. Trump is coasting on the Obama economy. Obama had to turn around the near-Depression -- minus 7% GDP!!!! ---- that Bush handed him.

By the same token you have no idea what Trump's first year of his own budget will bring. Obama's job growth was largely part time. The creative book-cooking they used to manipulate numbers is impressive; anyone who stops receiving unemployment for any reason or doesn't qualify to receive it in the first place is employed. Anyone receiving a disability check has a job. Part time jobs, more than 70% of the "jobs created" in several years, counted the same as full time. Tens of thousands of people who saw their full time jobs cut to 29 hours a week because of Obamacare counted the same as when they were full time. It's kind of like the Obama Administration's unique definition of "deportations." They are the only administration in history to count border turnbacks as "deportations." If they kept score the way every other administration did, they would be in last place rather than first.

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Dec 30, 2017 18:00:36   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Tgards79 wrote:
Are you kidding me? The economy -- the nation -- under Bush, was falling apart! It is useless arguing with you people if that is your idea of evidence. Trump is coasting on the Obama economy. Obama had to turn around the near-Depression -- minus 7% GDP!!!! ---- that Bush handed him.


We'll see after the first of the year if he continues to coast.

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Dec 30, 2017 18:01:24   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Loki wrote:
By the same token you have no idea what Trump's first year of his own budget will bring. Obama's job growth was largely part time. The creative book-cooking they used to manipulate numbers is impressive; anyone who stops receiving unemployment for any reason or doesn't qualify to receive it in the first place is employed. Anyone receiving a disability check has a job. Part time jobs, more than 70% of the "jobs created" in several years, counted the same as full time. Tens of thousands of people who saw their full time jobs cut to 29 hours a week because of Obamacare counted the same as when they were full time. It's kind of like the Obama Administration's unique definition of "deportations." They are the only administration in history to count border turnbacks as "deportations." If they kept score the way every other administration did, they would be in last place rather than first.
By the same token you have no idea what Trump's fi... (show quote)


These guys are funny. They're so terrified Trump will do well!

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Dec 30, 2017 18:05:51   #
Tgards79
 
BigMike wrote:
These guys are funny. They're so terrified Trump will do well!
I'm terrified that Trump will either blow up the world very soon, or k**l it environmentally. The thought of Trump doing "well" has never entered my mind. Actually, before he took office I thought he had a chance to be a crossover type (Nixon in China), but with the Inaugural attendance fiasco, I have not entertained the thought that Trump could actually be effective.

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Dec 30, 2017 18:14:18   #
pickmeup Loc: Mid Michigan
 
you are simply delusional. Sad so sad.
Tgards79 wrote:
Are you kidding me? The economy -- the nation -- under Bush, was falling apart! It is useless arguing with you people if that is your idea of evidence. Trump is coasting on the Obama economy. Obama had to turn around the near-Depression -- minus 7% GDP!!!! ---- that Bush handed him.

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Dec 30, 2017 18:22:09   #
Tgards79
 
pickmeup wrote:
you are simply delusional. Sad so sad.
You deny that the GDP was -7% when Obama took over?

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Dec 30, 2017 20:32:12   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Tgards79 wrote:
You deny that the GDP was -7% when Obama took over?


That was all Trump's fault, right? Obama's first year in office when we continued to hemorrhage jobs was all Bush's fault, since Obama had to operate on the Bush budget, but Trump is a failure because he is operating on Obama's budget. What horse puckey.

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Dec 30, 2017 20:38:56   #
Tgards79
 
Loki wrote:
That was all Trump's fault, right? Obama's first year in office when we continued to hemorrhage jobs was all Bush's fault, since Obama had to operate on the Bush budget, but Trump is a failure because he is operating on Obama's budget. What horse puckey.
Your obsession with the Budget as a driver of the economy is strange and misplaced.

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Dec 30, 2017 20:43:11   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Tgards79 wrote:
Your obsession with the Budget as a driver of the economy is strange and misplaced.


Speech by the former head of the Congressional Budget Office.
http://www.brookings.edu/on-the-record/designing-federal-bud

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Dec 30, 2017 21:08:58   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Loki wrote:
By the same token you have no idea what Trump's first year of his own budget will bring. Obama's job growth was largely part time. The creative book-cooking they used to manipulate numbers is impressive; anyone who stops receiving unemployment for any reason or doesn't qualify to receive it in the first place is employed. Anyone receiving a disability check has a job. Part time jobs, more than 70% of the "jobs created" in several years, counted the same as full time. Tens of thousands of people who saw their full time jobs cut to 29 hours a week because of Obamacare counted the same as when they were full time. It's kind of like the Obama Administration's unique definition of "deportations." They are the only administration in history to count border turnbacks as "deportations." If they kept score the way every other administration did, they would be in last place rather than first.
By the same token you have no idea what Trump's fi... (show quote)


I multiplied 203,000 by 12 (one year)and got 2436000 and multiplied that number by 6 (number of years) and got 14616000 That many NEW jobs Obama created in 6 years. You have got to be kidding!!!!

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Dec 30, 2017 21:10:38   #
Tgards79
 
no propaganda please wrote:
I multiplied 203,000 by 12 (one year)and got 2436000 and multiplied that number by 6 (number of years) and got 14616000 That many NEW jobs Obama created in 6 years. You have got to be kidding!!!!
That is correct. Go check the Bureau of Labor Statistics yourself.

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