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Dec 28, 2017 13:36:51   #
moldyoldy
 
Stranger wrote:
If he did that, the information so gained by the Left would be used to hurt his business interests. The MSM would find ways to include any Trump business information in every story possible. Since Trump's energy policy is hurting the Russians every day, unlike the Obama administration's 'green' 'no drill' policy, it is hard to understand your paranoia.


Obama stopped a 500 billion oil deal that Russia had in the arctic, now trump has opened up drilling there, so I am sure exxon will get 51 percent of the Russian oil company so Russia can get that money.

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Dec 28, 2017 13:51:21   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Obama stopped a 500 billion oil deal that Russia had in the arctic, now trump has opened up drilling there, so I am sure exxon will get 51 percent of the Russian oil company so Russia can get that money.


If you went there you'd find Russia drilling away!

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Dec 28, 2017 14:12:32   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Kazudy wrote:
Oh that investigation is coming.


Which will come first Jesus or the investigation?

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Dec 28, 2017 14:28:11   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
Did You Say The Same About Obama??? Don D.

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Dummy Boy wrote:
The same way the president is dishonest...I guess? If he didn't tell so many lies, it might be easier to believe in his credibility.

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Dec 28, 2017 14:33:59   #
moldyoldy
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Did You Say The Same About Obama??? Don D.

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Why are you here don, you block all liberals from posting on your threads, what are you afraid of, facts?

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Dec 28, 2017 15:38:41   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
I didn't join OPP to get Into verbal attacks nor causing me to get angry, I don't just get angry, so I blocked as is my privilege those that give me heart burn, but if you really knew me you would know I'm never afraid, not ever, scared a couple times, but never fearful... Don D.

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moldyoldy wrote:
Why are you here don, you block all liberals from posting on your threads, what are you afraid of, facts?

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Dec 28, 2017 16:35:55   #
johnmont
 
Hardwork1 wrote:
As I try to follow current events in America and the rest of the world I constantly realize that I would have to suspend reality to actually believe the majority of what is being “reported”. Please know that I use the word “reported” very loosely in this article.

The Trump Russia Collusion story is a perfect example of how far to the Left the Democratic Party and MSM have gone. We have a special prosecutor that is accountable to no one and has an unlimited budget (of taxpayer dollars). He can investigate, and possibly file criminal charges against anyone he chooses. He is an egomaniac that has assembled one of the most biased and expensive group of lawyers in the history of the “Washington Cesspool”. All because the Obama Administration and the Democrats claimed that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 P**********l e******n.

Yes, Russia does “meddle” in other countries e******ns and lots of other things, but the U.S. and many other countries do that too! If you want to know which country is the “meddler in chief” just do a goggle search, “the U.S history of interfering in other countries e******ns”. You will be amazed to find how much WE have been doing that and how long! There are several articles that list six specific examples of the Obama Administration interfering in foreign e******ns, including Israel’s last Prime Minister e******n and Macedonia’s Democratic P**********l e******n. Obama actually spent U.S. tax payer dollars, and in some instances sent Americans to work on e******n campaigns of the people he preferred to win those six e******ns! Hillary was the Secretary of State when some of this U.S. involvement in other countries’ e******ns was happening. Where were the Democrats and the MSM when these events were actually happening?
Another example of the Left’s and MSM’s obsession with twisting the t***h to make it fit their desired outcome is the constant and loud stream of misinformation they are “reporting”. The vocal Democrats and the MSM “reporting” is all about how bad everything is in America, how unpopular President Trump is and how many seats the Democrats are going to win back in the U.S. House and Senate in Nov 2018. I also noticed that they rarely provide much information to validate the “polls” they are referring to in their effort to prove their points? I would think that they would have learned in November 2016 that this is not a winning strategy!

I began this article with a specific question because I simply do not believe that there are that many Americans now who are so uninformed,, or totally Left leaning Liberal that will believe the Democrat’s and MSM’s massive “lie and redirect” campaign. However, after I thought about it more I realized that the Left is using basic advertising techniques in their efforts to take back control of our government. A key rule of advertising is to maximize “reach and frequency”, which means how many times you’re advertising will be seen or heard by what people. The more times your target audience sees or hears your message the higher the odds are that they will positively respond to it. The Democrats and the MSM know this and are obviously making a concerted effort to convince enough people in America that they are right and to v**e for their ideas! If we Conservatives do not stay vigilant and active they just might take back America with these tactics!
As I try to follow current events in America and t... (show quote)


You didn't mind special prosecutors when it came to Bill Clinton and Obama. in fact you begged for one!

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Dec 28, 2017 17:19:58   #
Glaucon
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
He doesn't tell more lies, he's just less sneaky about it.


That is called polishing a turd and trying to find a clean end to it to hold it by while you polish. Good luck with that/

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Dec 28, 2017 17:29:44   #
Glaucon
 
Hardwork1 wrote:
As I try to follow current events in America and the rest of the world I constantly realize that I would have to suspend reality to actually believe the majority of what is being “reported”. Please know that I use the word “reported” very loosely in this article.

The Trump Russia Collusion story is a perfect example of how far to the Left the Democratic Party and MSM have gone. We have a special prosecutor that is accountable to no one and has an unlimited budget (of taxpayer dollars). He can investigate, and possibly file criminal charges against anyone he chooses. He is an egomaniac that has assembled one of the most biased and expensive group of lawyers in the history of the “Washington Cesspool”. All because the Obama Administration and the Democrats claimed that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 P**********l e******n.

Yes, Russia does “meddle” in other countries e******ns and lots of other things, but the U.S. and many other countries do that too! If you want to know which country is the “meddler in chief” just do a goggle search, “the U.S history of interfering in other countries e******ns”. You will be amazed to find how much WE have been doing that and how long! There are several articles that list six specific examples of the Obama Administration interfering in foreign e******ns, including Israel’s last Prime Minister e******n and Macedonia’s Democratic P**********l e******n. Obama actually spent U.S. tax payer dollars, and in some instances sent Americans to work on e******n campaigns of the people he preferred to win those six e******ns! Hillary was the Secretary of State when some of this U.S. involvement in other countries’ e******ns was happening. Where were the Democrats and the MSM when these events were actually happening?
Another example of the Left’s and MSM’s obsession with twisting the t***h to make it fit their desired outcome is the constant and loud stream of misinformation they are “reporting”. The vocal Democrats and the MSM “reporting” is all about how bad everything is in America, how unpopular President Trump is and how many seats the Democrats are going to win back in the U.S. House and Senate in Nov 2018. I also noticed that they rarely provide much information to validate the “polls” they are referring to in their effort to prove their points? I would think that they would have learned in November 2016 that this is not a winning strategy!

I began this article with a specific question because I simply do not believe that there are that many Americans now who are so uninformed,, or totally Left leaning Liberal that will believe the Democrat’s and MSM’s massive “lie and redirect” campaign. However, after I thought about it more I realized that the Left is using basic advertising techniques in their efforts to take back control of our government. A key rule of advertising is to maximize “reach and frequency”, which means how many times you’re advertising will be seen or heard by what people. The more times your target audience sees or hears your message the higher the odds are that they will positively respond to it. The Democrats and the MSM know this and are obviously making a concerted effort to convince enough people in America that they are right and to v**e for their ideas! If we Conservatives do not stay vigilant and active they just might take back America with these tactics!
As I try to follow current events in America and t... (show quote)


You ask "how can the Democrats and MSM be so dishonest and the answer is simple: the dishonesty and immorality of Fox "News"

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Dec 28, 2017 17:53:11   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Glaucon wrote:
You ask "how can the Democrats and MSM be so dishonest and the answer is simple: the dishonesty and immorality of Fox "News"



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Dec 29, 2017 07:47:08   #
Big Kahuna
 
Hardwork1 wrote:
As I try to follow current events in America and the rest of the world I constantly realize that I would have to suspend reality to actually believe the majority of what is being “reported”. Please know that I use the word “reported” very loosely in this article.

The Trump Russia Collusion story is a perfect example of how far to the Left the Democratic Party and MSM have gone. We have a special prosecutor that is accountable to no one and has an unlimited budget (of taxpayer dollars). He can investigate, and possibly file criminal charges against anyone he chooses. He is an egomaniac that has assembled one of the most biased and expensive group of lawyers in the history of the “Washington Cesspool”. All because the Obama Administration and the Democrats claimed that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 P**********l e******n.

Yes, Russia does “meddle” in other countries e******ns and lots of other things, but the U.S. and many other countries do that too! If you want to know which country is the “meddler in chief” just do a goggle search, “the U.S history of interfering in other countries e******ns”. You will be amazed to find how much WE have been doing that and how long! There are several articles that list six specific examples of the Obama Administration interfering in foreign e******ns, including Israel’s last Prime Minister e******n and Macedonia’s Democratic P**********l e******n. Obama actually spent U.S. tax payer dollars, and in some instances sent Americans to work on e******n campaigns of the people he preferred to win those six e******ns! Hillary was the Secretary of State when some of this U.S. involvement in other countries’ e******ns was happening. Where were the Democrats and the MSM when these events were actually happening?
Another example of the Left’s and MSM’s obsession with twisting the t***h to make it fit their desired outcome is the constant and loud stream of misinformation they are “reporting”. The vocal Democrats and the MSM “reporting” is all about how bad everything is in America, how unpopular President Trump is and how many seats the Democrats are going to win back in the U.S. House and Senate in Nov 2018. I also noticed that they rarely provide much information to validate the “polls” they are referring to in their effort to prove their points? I would think that they would have learned in November 2016 that this is not a winning strategy!

I began this article with a specific question because I simply do not believe that there are that many Americans now who are so uninformed,, or totally Left leaning Liberal that will believe the Democrat’s and MSM’s massive “lie and redirect” campaign. However, after I thought about it more I realized that the Left is using basic advertising techniques in their efforts to take back control of our government. A key rule of advertising is to maximize “reach and frequency”, which means how many times you’re advertising will be seen or heard by what people. The more times your target audience sees or hears your message the higher the odds are that they will positively respond to it. The Democrats and the MSM know this and are obviously making a concerted effort to convince enough people in America that they are right and to v**e for their ideas! If we Conservatives do not stay vigilant and active they just might take back America with these tactics!
As I try to follow current events in America and t... (show quote)


How right you are "hardwork." If honesty and integrity were l*****t values, which quite obviously they aren't this b.s. would be stopped immediately, the marxist demonratic party would be mandated as subversive and would be disbanded and the party would be ordered to return to its liberal roots as it was in the less totalitarian less Hitlerian days of JFK.

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Dec 29, 2017 08:29:28   #
johnmont
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Did you complain about the nine investigations of Hillary? They suddenly ended when the e******n was over, but the resurrection is teased every time trump needs a distraction from his crimes.


They. dust off the Hillary is about to be arrested, the birther crap and sprinkle on a little of Obama's shadow government!

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Dec 29, 2017 08:48:54   #
mythoughts
 
Follow the word it never lie or contradicts itself, but sends the same message throughout, love the straight and narrow way, because if you follow anyone or anything else, especially the media, you will certainly come out frustrated and misinformed.

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Dec 29, 2017 08:53:11   #
Glaucon
 
drlarrygino wrote:
How right you are "hardwork." If honesty and integrity were l*****t values, which quite obviously they aren't this b.s. would be stopped immediately, the marxist demonratic party would be mandated as subversive and would be disbanded and the party would be ordered to return to its liberal roots as it was in the less totalitarian less Hitlerian days of JFK.


Things are so simple when you avoid thinking and just emote.

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Dec 29, 2017 09:14:14   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Chocura750 wrote:
The opening post references possible lies of Democrats and the MSN, but doesn't specify one in the text.


Same goes for every poster here spouting Trump lies all the time !

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