The Mesmerization of the Elite: today's attack on Unions: I think few here know how utterly terrible were the working conditions of most our major industries in the late 1800s and...

rumitoid

I think few here know how utterly terrible were the working conditions of most our major industries in the late 1800s and early 1900s. And you, as a hard core Rightie, could care less. The unions that looked to rectify these abuses were C****es, right? A childish and short-sighted perception. But not entirely.

Any union formed in this country was influenced directly by C*******m. The very idea of unionizing was invented, more or less, by the C*******t Party. It was not a Stalinist power-grab or any attempt to undermine liberty: it was a truly for we the people movement.

Equal pay for women. Safety conditions at work. These were the two things these dirty, rotten C****es fought for most. Hours worked and pay per hour also on the main agenda. Job security. Shucks, you will not get it. The C*******m then was the basic Declaration of Independence being honest and true to its ideals.

liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house

rumitoid wrote:

I think few here know how utterly terrible were th... (show quote)

Yea, too bad those good ol' union's turned out to be nothing more than a thieving arm of the Democratic party........union is now just another word for corruption, it's no shocker they align themselves with Democrats, birds of a feather thing.

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

Unions also explain why rotten apples can't be fired from any organization, be it auto workers, sorry teachers, poor VA health care workers, porn watching government workers, etc... made up rights versus constitutional rights. Like all liberal ideas, it pretended to be good at it's start but as planned, quickly becomes a nightmare to control, it runs amok.

Big dog

Peewee wrote:

Unions also explain why rotten apples can't be fired from any organization, be it auto workers, sorry teachers, poor VA health care workers, porn watching government workers, etc... made up rights versus constitutional rights. Like all liberal ideas, it pretended to be good at it's start but as planned, quickly becomes a nightmare to control, it runs amok.

In one way unions saved the nation, now unions are tearing it back down.

Liberty Tree

Big dog wrote:

In one way unions saved the nation, now unions are tearing it back down.

I had a college professor who said that he never saw a devil that begat a Christ. Meaning that corrupt management gave birth to unions and unions inherited some of the same DNA thus becoming like the management they once abhorred.

vettelover Loc: Richmond Va

rumitoid wrote:

I think few here know how utterly terrible were th... (show quote)

Please produce proof that us conservatives approve of deadly working conditions and that we don't care. You are so indoctrinated.

As for your anti-American political vomit, I like to remind people like you, 170 million innocent people, mainly Christians were murdered by their own government's in the 20th century. All of them were c*******t and Socialist. Also, were in the f*k are you getting that c*******t governments dont work their citizens to death for chump change.

Understand this you c*******t, the elite billionaires and their political puppets that control the world today will CONTROL the world tomorrow but under a c*******m, THEIR ARE NO FREEDOMS, THERE ARE NO PERSONAL CHOICES, THERE IS NO PRIVACY. Your very post is offensive to all the millions of people who were slaughtered by the c*******t!

Kevyn

liberalh****r wrote:

Yea, too bad those good ol' union's turned out to be nothing more than a thieving arm of the Democratic party........union is now just another word for corruption, it's no shocker they align themselves with Democrats, birds of a feather thing.

If you want a pay raise join a union. Union employees along with earning significantly higher benefit packages than their non union counterparts take home a lot more money. In 2014 union employees averaged $917.00 a week after union dues vs $717.00 a week for non union workers. Union nurses made $75,000.00 a year vs $60,000.00 for non union nurses. In every field workers did much better with union representatives than without.

liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house

Kevyn wrote:

If you want a pay raise join a union. Union employees along with earning significantly higher benefit packages than their non union counterparts take home a lot more money. In 2014 union employees averaged $917.00 a week after union dues vs $717.00 a week for non union workers. Union nurses made $75,000.00 a year vs $60,000.00 for non union nurses. In every field workers did much better with union representatives than without.

That's just stupid....i negotiate my own salary and bennies, way above any s***e wage a union would negotiate before robbing me of some so some fatass BA can stay in power to suckle from the feet of the Democratic party.........the union cannot meet what the right to work offers me......unions suck, except for workers that should be fired and can't be because of unions.....why they cannot compete in a free market.....and are stuck with a crap workforce.

Quit sniffing glue, it makes you tap stupid in the mornings.

Kevyn

liberalh****r wrote:

That's just stupid....i negotiate my own salary an... (show quote)

The figures I quoted are from the national labor relations board and are accurate. I don’t know what you do for a living, perhaps you lick your bosses boots enough that he hands you a biscuit once in a while, or more likely you undermine your coworkers to get ahead. Especially when dealing with large corporations you can’t compete in the market because an individual doesn't much matter. By joining with the entire workforce you have the ability to compete on a level playing field and negotiate on your feet instead of your knees.

liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house

Kevyn wrote:

The figures I quoted are from the national labor r... (show quote)

Like most everybody......i don't care what you quoted, an i***t with a keyboard is quite common these days.

I wish you would join any workforce, just get a job, even if you have to be a union lackey spending most of your time waiting on the Bench to be called....for a mere
Union wage I would just hunt squirrels, since I make 5 times what they would offer......maybe they should get on their knees.....that way you could look the union thief in the eyes while playing their s***e.....something you liberals enjoy, making s***es of what few of y'all that actually work.

In short, please.see my previous meme......that one is made for you and your kind.

ihntnfsh Loc: Colome, SD

A job that has a union behind it in most instances your required to join the union in order get the job. Unions don’t give a damn about the company that employs them. A good example of this is the Hostess company. The union was told the company couldn’t afford what the unions were asking. For once a company didn’t give in. Hostess just shut their doors. Unions takes a big chunk of your pay check. Companies with unions aren’t allowed to fire workers that don’t do their jobs, get in a union and your good for life no matter if you come to work drunk, watch porn or fight with your fellow workers. I know of what I speak because I saw it happen.

Big dog

ihntnfsh wrote:

A job that has a union behind it in most instances... (show quote)

Not always. The union was in threw me under the bus. CSEA.
They work for the government., not the workers

pafret Loc: Northeast

Kevyn wrote:

The figures I quoted are from the national labor r... (show quote)

Or it might be that he simply expended the effort to become better educated and sk**led than the union employee and is of more value to his employer than the typical union drone who cannot excel because his union won't permit him to do so. Dealing with large corporations is the precise venue where the highly sk**led worker excels. He can and does outperform any union stooge and is compensated to match. Level playing fields are for the incompetent. We play to win as individuals, not as part of the ant colony. We are not c*******ts; we expect the rewards for our efforts to accrue to us as individuals, not as part of a collection of sloths.

You can negotiate on your tippy toes if you like but in the end you will still be a loser because you have aligned yourself with those who cannot or will not work. The benefits you gain must be spread across the entire group and will necessarily be less than if all were working to capacity.

rumitoid

Wow, talk about full brain-wash. Scary! Read some history, people. Some unions went corrupt so end the one defense against Corporate abuse of employees? Congress is corrupt, do we end our form of government? A Mayor is corrupt, end the notion of mayorism? You have to ask why the attack on unions for what is rift throughout society. Is their corruption somehow worse? What do they threaten is the question? They threaten Big Business. With what?

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

What they threaten is democracy, by funneling all their donations to only the democratic party, without regard to members desires or wishes, even if it's "their" money.

I could support unions if the member was allowed to freely give to the candidate or earmark who they wanted it given to without being laundered through their unions. That's not being done and it never will be done... but to be forced to have dues taken out, with no say so, as to who their union supports is not right, so I'm remaining anti union.

Unions also have a problem with secret b****ts by their members. If you can't see the corruption, you are willfully blind and must love being a controlled s***e, being milked like a cow.