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Mar 12, 2014 16:43:29   #
Homestead
 
moose wrote:
Capitalism has worked for over 200 yrS.Obama is trying to knock it down with SOCIALISM,which never works.God liberals only have a one way agenda's.You bleeding heart liberals make me sick.


Actually, it worked much longer than that.

As Isaac Newton observed an apple falling to the ground and thought that it represented something universal, Adam Smith came to the conclusion that there were basic economic principles, woven through history, that were also universal.

Adam Smith was a historian. His book, The Wealth of Nations, laid out the principles of Capitalism that were evident throughout history.

When these principles were applied, there was great success and prosperity in civilizations. When the rules were broken, destruction and the collapse of the societies followed.

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Mar 12, 2014 17:26:57   #
faithistheword
 
Btfkr wrote:
...no interstate highways let alone good US highways, oh yeah no constant war, no military bases all over the world, no airways system, no international airports, no intervention all over the world...on&on&on. so take your pick. Get rid of what you don't use.




Like Hell ! All those things would have been built by private enterprise, and maintained a hell of a lot better ! Everything the govt. gets it's sticky fingers into, gets messed up and corrupted. The only wars we started, we finished (except Viet Nam), and the world was better off. Why don't you libs do some research--everything is available and easy to find.

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Mar 12, 2014 17:28:25   #
faithistheword
 
Homestead wrote:
Actually, it worked much longer than that.

As Isaac Newton observed an apple falling to the ground and thought that it represented something universal, Adam Smith came to the conclusion that there were basic economic principles, woven through history, that were also universal.

Adam Smith was a historian. His book, The Wealth of Nations, laid out the principles of Capitalism that were evident throughout history.

When these principles were applied, there was great success and prosperity in civilizations. When the rules were broken, destruction and the collapse of the societies followed.
Actually, it worked much longer than that. br br ... (show quote)




Good Post. Glad you reminded me !
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Mar 12, 2014 18:27:50   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
faithistheword wrote:
Like Hell ! All those things would have been built by private enterprise, and maintained a hell of a lot better ! Everything the govt. gets it's sticky fingers into, gets messed up and corrupted. The only wars we started, we finished (except Viet Nam), and the world was better off. Why don't you libs do some research--everything is available and easy to find.


as if there is no corruption in private enterprise. ok you say so. and enjoy all your tool roads. may your miles be many. as well as added fees to your airline tickets in order to pay some over payed exec which you as a citizen have no control over. oh, war. ask the people of Iraq just how much better off they are, or for that mater just how much better off are we??..what ever.

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Mar 12, 2014 18:50:41   #
TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
 
Glaucon wrote:
WTF does that mean?


Honestly?
You have never heard of that term before?
Google 'Bilderburg Group'

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Mar 12, 2014 18:53:27   #
stan3186
 
Btfkr wrote:
as if there is no corruption in private enterprise. ok you say so. and enjoy all your tool roads. may your miles be many. as well as added fees to your airline tickets in order to pay some over payed exec which you as a citizen have no control over. oh, war. ask the people of Iraq just how much better off they are, or for that mater just how much better off are we??..what ever.


Yes, there is corruption in private enterprise, but it is punishable and recoverable, unlike governments that are fatally flawed and corrupt and with no recourse or recovery possible.

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Mar 12, 2014 19:28:55   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
stan3186 wrote:
Yes, there is corruption in private enterprise, but it is punishable and recoverable, unlike governments that are fatally flawed and corrupt and with no recourse or recovery possible.


HA good luck. Just like all the banksters are locked up.. At least with gvt we can v**e.

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Mar 12, 2014 19:32:27   #
rumitoid
 
Glaucon wrote:
There are so many false charges against Obama that are easily refuted with evidence: B******i, the IRS thing, Obama's birth certificate, Obama is a Muslim, Obama h**es America, and other nonsense that distract us from the fact that Obama has taken some actions that are real and do seriously harm America. Read this:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/03/03

I will be interested in your comments.


He is the first Black president and ruining him in anyway possible may end other B****s from running.

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Mar 12, 2014 19:41:52   #
Glaucon
 
Don DeHoff wrote:
Too many of you still don't "get it" This one-on-one, off-subject, profanity, obnoxious nicknames and overall gutter talk (mental masturbation) is designed by "plants" (trolls?) whose object is to take our focus off of the real issues of the day. The serious readers could care less as to how stupid, wrong, illiterate or obnoxious you all are. Then there many of you good people who jump right in and "play their game", and unwittingly become one of the "plants"----"gullibility", at its finest.
Too many of you still don't "get it" Th... (show quote)



Don,

What do you think “it” is? I have tried many times to stimulate an adult conversation and each time the trolls have taken over the threads and made each attempt fail. I have tried many ways to respond to them and none have encouraged them to any adult responding. I think a quick look at this page will show you the names of some of the most persistent trolls.

I have searched my mind to discover why adults would spend their time blocking useful conversation and I have come to the conclusion that they want attention, they have very little accurate information to form adult responses , but most of all, they seem to have strong masochistic needs. I have begun to respond to their insults and infantile blocking tactics with abusive responses because I believe they want to be verbally spanked, humiliated, embarrassed and generally put down. I keep spankding and they seem to like it and keep coming back for more. However, trolls are not mentally quick, creative, knowledgable, or verbal so they merely feel the pain, apparently enjoy it, and come back for more. I am not a sadist, so I will stop the spanking after I have been able to further test this hypothesis. For now, verbal spanking seems to be what they want.

I am serious, what do you call someone who trolls and what would you do to keep them from infecting one thread after another?

You use the word, plants, what do you mean by that?

Do you have some thoughts about how trolls could be managed so that mature discourse could happen? Please let me know.

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Mar 12, 2014 19:44:25   #
son of witless
 
ginger wrote:
Don't agree with anyone taking anyone's property. And if this pipeline was built state of the art I probably wouldn't have that much problem with it, but just tonight it was reported by the inspectors that T***sCanada has not abided by the safety requirements ever. They have one pipeline in Vancover that has been leaking for eleven years with no thoughts of cleanup. They don't know how to clean up that mess. Read anything you like, no tar sans leak has ever been cleaned up completely. And the farmers of Nebraska were told that any leak on their property was their problem.
Don't agree with anyone taking anyone's property. ... (show quote)


Again, right now there are thousands of miles of oil and gas pipelines. When there are that many pipelines you can find a few horror stories.

I find it hard to believe in this day and age of hired gun lawyers and drummed up hatred of all oil companies that the Nebraskan farmers have to put up with a drop of oil not being cleaned up. Please provide a link so I can research it.

Again, this oil WILL be used and WILL be t***sported. The Keystone pipeline is by far the most environmentally responsible way to accomplish that. I do not know, but I am guessing that all property owners impacted by this pipeline will be more than well compensated.

And the construction workers building the pipeline will do extremely well, as will all of the auxiliary businesses that will spring up to house and feed them. Our glorious President always speaks of the magical benefits of infrastructure, yet he obstructs one of the largest infrastructure projects of the present.

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Mar 12, 2014 19:44:50   #
Glaucon
 
Homestead wrote:
Actually, it worked much longer than that.

As Isaac Newton observed an apple falling to the ground and thought that it represented something universal, Adam Smith came to the conclusion that there were basic economic principles, woven through history, that were also universal.

Adam Smith was a historian. His book, The Wealth of Nations, laid out the principles of Capitalism that were evident throughout history.

Did you read, Wealth of Nations? I did and got a very different story. Are you interested in what I got?

When these principles were applied, there was great success and prosperity in civilizations. When the rules were broken, destruction and the collapse of the societies followed.
Actually, it worked much longer than that. br br ... (show quote)

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Mar 12, 2014 19:49:54   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Btfkr wrote:
Once capitalism is regulated it is no longer "true capitalism". That is why I say the deregulation of capitalism, thus moving more toward "true capitalism" (or if you will Laissez Faire Capitalism) is one of the causes of why we are in the mess. Yes the repeal of Glass-Stegall is a prime example. Greed is a human trait as well as one of the 7 deadly sins. We can never expect total honesty. That is why capitalism and business must be regulated. I believe the "business has been over regulated" is just a big right wing cover up for greed. If there are specific examples or over regulation, I'd be happy to listen. It may still be possible to rebuild the country without a total down fall, but of that I'm not certain. It will be a huge fall and I don't think medic-alert makes anything big enough to help.

K. I'll post this one more time. No body seems to like to face things or read things.

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/corporate-accountability-history-corporations-us/
Once capitalism is regulated it is no longer "... (show quote)

you do not over-regulate the hand that feeds you. because of over-regulation, manufactoring iz almost non-existent (this country needs to increase manufactoring 15 to 20%) and now we pay for stuff that we did not make. how do you buy stuff with no job??? when a company takes the high road and screws the entire system (employees and procedure), thatz when you knock them back down...you DO NOT assume that they are going to do it anyways and knock them down before anything has happened. all you blithering moronz who think that our system iz based solely on greed only...need to leave and go to a country where thew word greed does not even exist. you'll be back here in less than a week!!!!

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Mar 12, 2014 19:55:48   #
Glaucon
 
cesspool jones wrote:
you do not over-regulate the hand that feeds you. because of over-regulation, manufactoring iz almost non-existent (this country needs to increase manufactoring 15 to 20%) and now we pay for stuff that we did not make. how do you buy stuff with no job??? when a company takes the high road and screws the entire system (employees and procedure), thatz when you knock them back down...you DO NOT assume that they are going to do it anyways and knock them down before anything has happened. all you blithering moronz who think that our system iz based solely on greed only...need to leave and go to a country where thew word greed does not even exist. you'll be back here in less than a week!!!!
you do not over-regulate the hand that feeds you. ... (show quote)
... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy. Noam Chomsky

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Mar 12, 2014 20:00:37   #
son of witless
 
Glaucon wrote:
Ginger,

Right on. You hit it on target. I don't want to deprive so many people of their property rights and cause major pollution in order to enrich some of the already rich. Does that make me a socialist or a rational person?


It makes you a Socialist big time. This project will bring many, many more benefits to middle class and poor people than any of the phony feel good welfare programs that Democrats have rammed down our throats the last 5 years. I have already mentioned the huge benefits to workers from building the pipeline. The larger benefits will be in more plentiful and cheaper energy to middle class and poor people.

But you don't care about any of that. You are locked into your class warfare Socialism. You are one of those good folks who enjoys hating anyone who rises above you. Now since this pipeline will create opportunities for ordinary people to rise into the embarrassing wealthy ranks, this will be really good for you. There will be all kinds of more individuals for you to dislike.

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Mar 12, 2014 20:11:09   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Glaucon wrote:
... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy. Noam Chomsky

so whatz yer plan? k**l all the companies? if i was an employer...you would never get a job with me. you, my friend...are the sorriest american on this forum.

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