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Mar 9, 2014 08:32:22   #
jimbino
 
I believe in fiscal responsibility and limited government. I also believe gays should be allowed to marry, government shouldn't tell women what to do with their body and immigration reform. In other words I'm near the center. But both parties seem to be getting further from the center. I feel left out. I wish there was a third party closer to the center that reflected my views

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Mar 9, 2014 08:58:29   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
jimbino wrote:
I believe in fiscal responsibility and limited government. I also believe gays should be allowed to marry, government shouldn't tell women what to do with their body and immigration reform. In other words I'm near the center. But both parties seem to be getting further from the center. I feel left out. I wish there was a third party closer to the center that reflected my views


You may want to take this quiz if you want to know your political bias. http://www.quizrocket.com/political-party-quiz

Yes, between the very liberal and conservative there is a chasm, perhaps it is a product of mass media which is nonstop in pointing out differences. Often you will find that people that say they are pro a******n or proactive in providing for the needy, or even for more taxes. They speak in generalities. But, if you ask them about their personal life, then you would be surprised to find just how conservative our nation remains. It is much easier to say that all people should or should not; but harder to say what you want for your own self or family. When you get to the macro and eliminate the "what is good for everybody" aspect then the t***h comes forward. For example, if you or your girlfriend is pregnant; would you want someone to k**l the child? If you have a choice of saving for your child's education or even a family vacation, would you take that money and give it to the first homeless beggar on the street? If you are competing for a job, and you have worked hard to prepare yourself for the job and it was given to a less qualified person because of skin color, would you celebrate their good fortune? It would be easy to go on, but I think you get the general meaning of these questions. In other words, it is nice to dream of utopia, but how much will you sacrifice to allow others to have your dream first?

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Mar 9, 2014 08:58:29   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I h**e my computer..... another duplicate. Sorry!

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Mar 9, 2014 09:37:50   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
ginnyt wrote:
I h**e my computer..... another duplicate. Sorry!


I don't think it's your computer. I think it's something to do with this site. I have been having similar issues and I notice others have as well. Perhaps, we both have computers more sensitive than the OPP site designers make allowances for. Just a thought.

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Mar 9, 2014 10:18:59   #
jimbino
 
I appreciate your reply. I have been involved personally with a******n. I was personally against it but she went to have one anyway. I was disappointed but I'm still glad the decision were hers and not the governments. I would give money to a beggar. In addition to church giving I also support a couple of charities on a monthly basis (St Judes and Wounded Warrior) I wouldn't want to lose a job based on race but I want to insure that all people have an equal opportunity. My boss is a black woman but I've worked with her for a long time and she earned her position. I'm a white male and she has helped me advance within the company. She's kind of a mentor of mine. Speaking of church, got to go I'm running late

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Mar 9, 2014 10:37:51   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
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Mar 9, 2014 10:38:36   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
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Mar 9, 2014 10:39:20   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
(Not having computer problems, just can't adjust to this time change. My brain isn't awake yet).

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Mar 9, 2014 10:39:47   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
ginnyt wrote:
You may want to take this quiz if you want to know your political bias. http://www.quizrocket.com/political-party-quiz

Yes, between the very liberal and conservative there is a chasm, perhaps it is a product of mass media which is nonstop in pointing out differences. Often you will find that people that say they are pro a******n or proactive in providing for the needy, or even for more taxes. They speak in generalities. But, if you ask them about their personal life, then you would be surprised to find just how conservative our nation remains. It is much easier to say that all people should or should not; but harder to say what you want for your own self or family. When you get to the macro and eliminate the "what is good for everybody" aspect then the t***h comes forward. For example, if you or your girlfriend is pregnant; would you want someone to k**l the child? If you have a choice of saving for your child's education or even a family vacation, would you take that money and give it to the first homeless beggar on the street? If you are competing for a job, and you have worked hard to prepare yourself for the job and it was given to a less qualified person because of skin color, would you celebrate their good fortune? It would be easy to go on, but I think you get the general meaning of these questions. In other words, it is nice to dream of utopia, but how much will you sacrifice to allow others to have your dream first?
You may want to take this quiz if you want to know... (show quote)

Not trying to one-up you or anything, but you might want to try this one. I found it to be a lot better:
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-11045-1.html

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Mar 9, 2014 14:07:17   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Searching wrote:
I don't think it's your computer. I think it's something to do with this site. I have been having similar issues and I notice others have as well. Perhaps, we both have computers more sensitive than the OPP site designers make allowances for. Just a thought.


Thanks. I did notice that my mail is not working right either.

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Mar 9, 2014 14:10:39   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
jimbino wrote:
I believe in fiscal responsibility and limited government. I also believe gays should be allowed to marry, government shouldn't tell women what to do with their body and immigration reform. In other words I'm near the center. But both parties seem to be getting further from the center. I feel left out. I wish there was a third party closer to the center that reflected my views


Sorry, but I just can't agree with you about gay marriage. Marriage is between a man and a woman, not two men. As for a******n, I think that is murder and if you can't see that, then I can't help you. I am not extreme right on most things, but a couple like this I am. Sorry, but I do have strong feelings and I think most people agree with me in these two areas. Something like a tube pregnancy I can see getting an a******n, because if you don't, then you loose the mother and baby. To me I can see it, but that is one of a very few cases that I would see getting an a******n. If she didn't want the baby, then she should not have been playing around. Especially with someone that is stupid.

The rest I agree with you on. I also think our government should be using the Constitution the way it is supposed to be used and not finding all those ways around it or just ignoring it.

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Mar 9, 2014 14:11:56   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Well then, it would seem that you are a Liberal all the way. Sorry about the loss of your child. Personally, I would have been devastated. I am happy for you that things worked out. And you sound like a great humanitarian, congratulations on your hard work in behalf of your charities.


jimbino wrote:
I appreciate your reply. I have been involved personally with a******n. I was personally against it but she went to have one anyway. I was disappointed but I'm still glad the decision were hers and not the governments. I would give money to a beggar. In addition to church giving I also support a couple of charities on a monthly basis (St Judes and Wounded Warrior) I wouldn't want to lose a job based on race but I want to insure that all people have an equal opportunity. My boss is a black woman but I've worked with her for a long time and she earned her position. I'm a white male and she has helped me advance within the company. She's kind of a mentor of mine. Speaking of church, got to go I'm running late
I appreciate your reply. I have been involved pers... (show quote)

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Mar 9, 2014 18:42:07   #
jimbino
 
I think a person's views on a******n relate to their views on religion. Our birth date is the day we come out of the womb and become a separate person. It's not the date of conception. Although the one time I was personally involved I begged her not to have an a******n, but she did and like I said I'm glad she had the choice. Denying a gay couple the same rights of marriage laws is a violation of the Constitution you say you believe in. The 14th amendment guarantees equal protections under the law. So a gay couple has a constitutional right to marry, file taxes jointly, be a spouse on employer insurance and any other protections a straight couple has under marriage laws. That is equal protection under the law. Don't get me wrong. I don't understand homosexuality, I think they're a little weird. If I met you I'd probably think you were a little weird. But that doesn't give the government the right to interfere just because I don't agree with it. “
I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

Voltaire

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Mar 9, 2014 19:07:48   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
First, would you use the quote reply button so we know to whom you are addressing your remarks.

Gay marriage if you only view it in terms of economics, as you did then a "Union" might better serve the purpose and indeed your Christian Catholic Pope does not see a problem with it. I do support the Constitution and that is why I do not object to a legalized "Union" which takes it from a religious aspect to a purely legal to provide benefits under the government or insurances. This in my mind is a separation of church and state. As for your views on homosexual behavior as written, taken all into consideration, you may want to really examine your motives for supporting that lifestyle. It may be a subconscious curiosity.

The life that you allowed to be taken by your girlfriend and her doctor is as much your responsibility as theirs. They performed the deed, but it was your baby and you did not defend it. But, that is between your conscience and your belief in God. Not for me to judge. You mention birthdate, did you know that in some countries a child is not given a birth certificate or a legal name until it is a year old? Does that make the child less human? Or do you think that it would be alright to k**l the child because its official birthdate is a year from the day they came out of its mother's body?

Perhaps you would think my family and I are "weird" because we are not of your faith. Too many differences to list. I am used to it, so I am not offended.

jimbino wrote:
I think a person's views on a******n relate to their views on religion. Our birth date is the day we come out of the womb and become a separate person. It's not the date of conception. Although the one time I was personally involved I begged her not to have an a******n, but she did and like I said I'm glad she had the choice. Denying a gay couple the same rights of marriage laws is a violation of the Constitution you say you believe in. The 14th amendment guarantees equal protections under the law. So a gay couple has a constitutional right to marry, file taxes jointly, be a spouse on employer insurance and any other protections a straight couple has under marriage laws. That is equal protection under the law. Don't get me wrong. I don't understand homosexuality, I think they're a little weird. If I met you I'd probably think you were a little weird. But that doesn't give the government the right to interfere just because I don't agree with it. “
I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

Voltaire
I think a person's views on a******n relate to the... (show quote)

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Mar 9, 2014 19:31:37   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
jimbino wrote:
I think a person's views on a******n relate to their views on religion. Our birth date is the day we come out of the womb and become a separate person. It's not the date of conception. Although the one time I was personally involved I begged her not to have an a******n, but she did and like I said I'm glad she had the choice. Denying a gay couple the same rights of marriage laws is a violation of the Constitution you say you believe in. The 14th amendment guarantees equal protections under the law. So a gay couple has a constitutional right to marry, file taxes jointly, be a spouse on employer insurance and any other protections a straight couple has under marriage laws. That is equal protection under the law. Don't get me wrong. I don't understand homosexuality, I think they're a little weird. If I met you I'd probably think you were a little weird. But that doesn't give the government the right to interfere just because I don't agree with it. “
I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

Voltaire
I think a person's views on a******n relate to the... (show quote)


You have incredible heart. I will repeat here something I have quoted before (cannot remember where credit is due)...

It was because I did not know, that I asked,
"what is beauty?" and then,
I saw a toad sitting beneath a lily,
and I wondered,
was the toad admiring the lily,
or the lily the toad,
and this is how I came to know,
that beauty is of the spirit,
it cannot be held by human hand,
but only in the cloister of the heart.
For this, you and I must remember,
because sometimes the world forgets.

I, too, am sorry for your pain. I know, or at least, I try to imagine, how hard it must be for you to be so fair minded and not angry at the universe. May I just say, "thank you" for reminding us that we have never walked in another's shoes, and until, or unless we do, we should not judge. Beauty is truly of the spirit. Yes, we do sometimes forget.

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