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Dec 13, 2017 13:34:29   #
moldyoldy
 
byronglimish wrote:
I will pick one out of your accused...Dr.Ben Carson.... how does this man...fall under your accusation of being a criminal??


Trump picked people to destroy the departments that they are supposed to run.

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Dec 13, 2017 13:44:07   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Trump picked people to destroy the departments that they are supposed to run.


What crime has Dr Been Carson Committed???this either goes for your credibility...or proves you lie ..."Specifically" what crime did Ben Carson commit???

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Dec 13, 2017 15:18:21   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
byronglimish wrote:
What crime has Dr Been Carson Committed???this either goes for your credibility...or proves you lie ..."Specifically" what crime did Ben Carson commit???



Mr Carson has allowed himself to be part of the orange trumps destruction of our nation.

His crime is that he has made himself the instrument trump is using to, not run an agency for the taxpayers of the nation, but to destroy that same agency..

Why would the orange man wish to end government housing??

Fred trump who made the fortune that the orange man spends, made the bulk via fraud of the FHA program for middle class housing..

FHA and HUD are symbols that trump did not make his own why in the world but rather had every thing handed to him on a silver platter..

Now the orange rind wants any trace of the that gone from the nation..





Why would Donald Trump appoint the uniquely unqualified Ben Carson to run the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development?

If the Senate approves the neurosurgeon’s nomination, he will run an agency with a $47 billion budget that oversees federal rental assistance programs serving more than five million of the country's lowest-income households. The largest of these is the housing choice voucher program (formerly known as Section 8), which helps low-income families rent apartments in the private market. HUD also oversees a million units of public housing run by local governments, administers $5 billion in community development funds, insures the mortgages of more than one-fifth of all homeowners, and enforces fair housing laws that bar racial discrimination by lenders and landlords.

Carson has no experience with any of these programs—nor any experience in government at all.

telling the Times that Carson was never a public housing tenant after all.

“With a Republican-controlled Congress and presidency, subsidized housing and fair housing would be under threat no matter who is HUD Secretary,” observes Alex Schwartz, a professor of urban policy at the New School and author of Housing Policy in the United States. “But unlike previous HUD secretaries under Republican presidents, Carson is entirely lacking in qualifications, and is unlikely to champion any aspect of HUD's mission.”

ut there is yet another explanation, which has to do with both psychology and PR, for why Trump named Carson to this post, and it has to do with Trump’s complicated relationship with his father.

Fred Trump had made his fortune by building middle-class housing financed by the Federal Housing Administration (FHA).
Trump inherited from his father, Fred, a real-estate empire worth tens of millions of dollars. Fred Trump had made his fortune by building middle-class housing financed by the Federal Housing Administration (FHA). In the 1930s, the senior Trump built single-family homes for middle class families in Queens and Brooklyn, using mortgage subsidies from the newly created FHA to obtain construction loans. After his real-estate business fell on hard times, he was able to revive his firm during World War II by constructing FHA-backed housing for U.S. naval personnel near major shipyards along the East Coast. After the war, he continued to rely on FHA financing to construct apartment buildings in New York’s outer boroughs.

In 1954, Fred Trump was subpoenaed to testify before the Senate Banking Committee on allegations that he had ripped off the government to reap windfall profits through his FHA-insured housing developments in New York. At the hearings, Trump was called on the carpet for profiteering off of public contracts, including overestimating the construction costs of his projects in order to get a larger mortgages from FHA. Under oath, he reluctantly admitted that he had wildly overstated the development costs of one of these projects, the Beach Haven apartment complex in Brooklyn, by at least $3.7 million.

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Dec 13, 2017 15:23:46   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
byronglimish wrote:
What crime has Dr Been Carson Committed???this either goes for your credibility...or proves you lie ..."Specifically" what crime did Ben Carson commit???




A little more to the orange man and his plots against the middle class....



ne might think that the younger Trump would be grateful to the FHA for enabling his father to become a multi-millionaire. But that would undermine Trump’s campaign to portray himself as a self-made man. He constantly boasts that he built his real-estate empire on his own—although, when pushed, he acknowledges that his father loaned him what he’s called the “small amount” of $1 million. Even that claim was demolished by a Washington Post investigation earlier this year. Not only did Trump’s father provide his son with a huge inheritance, and set up big-bucks trust accounts to provide his son with a steady income, but he was also a silent partner in the junior Trump’s first real-estate projects.

As the Post disclosed, Trump’s father “was an essential silent partner in Trump’s initiative. In effect, the son was the front man, relying on his father’s connections and wealth, while his father stood silently in the background to avoid drawing attention to himself.”

Trump’s father was also his safety net. In a 2007 deposition, Donald Trump admitted that he had borrowed at least $9 million from his future inheritance amid financial difficulties. In effect, the son was on welfare. The money came directly from his father, but indirectly from the government, which had financed Fred Trump’s real-estate business and given him a way to fleece the system to become a wealthy man.

In Donald Trump’s mind, therefore, HUD and FHA are constant reminders that far from being self-made, he has lived a life of entitlement—one that was subsidized by the federal government and his father’s ill-gotten gains. What better way to battle these insecurities than to put a man in charge of HUD who, whether through incompetence or indifference, is likely to undermine the agency’s mission and reputation?



THERE’S ANOTHER REASON, also tied to his history with his father, why Trump chose Carson for HUD. One of HUD’s most visible responsibilities, though it consumes only a small part of the agency’s budget, is to challenge racial discrimination by banks, developers, and landlords. This was the mandate of the 1968 Fair Housing Act, passed soon after the assassination of Martin Luther King. In the half-century since then, HUD’s commitment to fair housing has waxed and waned, depending on who was president, but under President Obama the agency has made significant regulatory headway in promoting racial housing integration. Specifically, HUD’s Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing Rule requires cities to take proactive steps to prevent racial discrimination and segregation.


Trump is well aware that his father frequently ran afoul of the Fair Housing Act. According to the Washington Post, Fred Trump was arrested at a Ku Klux Klan rally in New York in 1927. Fred Trump’s r****t business practices prompted the federal government to sue him for denying black families the opportunity to rent apartments in his buildings.

In 1950, folksinger Woody Guthrie, who rented an apartment in Trump’s Beach Haven complex in Brooklyn, even wrote a song, “Old Man Trump,” about his landlord’s r****m. The song points out that Trump refused to rent to black tenants in his government-backed Beach Haven apartment complex near Coney Island.

But Guthrie wasn’t the only one to call Trump a r****t. During the 1960s and 1970s, the New York City Commission on Human Rights and other fair housing organizations and activists documented Trump’s routine practice of turning away potential black tenants. One New York state investigation discovered that in 1967, there were only seven black families living in the 3,700-unit Trump Village complex in Brooklyn.


Rather than settle the case, the junior Trump hired Roy Cohn, a high-powered attorney who had served as Senator Joseph McCarthy’s red-baiting counsel, to defend him. At Cohn’s suggestion, Trump sued the Justice Department, but the assigned judge dismissed the countersuit. Two years later, the Trumps reluctantly signed a consent decree that required them to desegregate their apartment buildings, including a mandate that Trump Management provide the New York Urban League, a civil rights group, with a weekly list of all its vacancies.

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Dec 13, 2017 15:27:45   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
byronglimish wrote:
What crime has Dr Been Carson Committed???this either goes for your credibility...or proves you lie ..."Specifically" what crime did Ben Carson commit???




WAIT we have a little more yet..


under President Reagan. Reagan’s HUD became a feeding trough for Republican campaign contributors. Fortunately for Reagan, the media didn't uncover what became known as the “HUD scandal” until he left office. It resulted in the indictment and conviction of top Reagan administration officials for illegally targeting housing subsidies to politically connected developers. Given the president-elect’s reputation for deal-making and rewarding political allies, it’s easy to imagine Carson steering HUD contracts to Trump's donors and supporters.

While Reagan was using HUD to reward his political cronies, he slashed the agency’s budget. HUD has never recovered. Unlike Social Security, Medicare, and supplemental nutrition assistance, federal housing aid is a lottery, not an entitlement. Today, only about one-quarter of eligible low-income families receive any HUD assistance. Federally subsidized housing for the poor—both vouchers and low-rent apartment buildings—represents only 3.5 percent of the nation’s 134 million housing units.


A significant cause of the rental-housing crisis has been the foreclosure epidemic, which drove about eight million home-owning families into the rental market. After banks’ predatory and risky practices precipitated the 2008 housing crash, American homeowners lost trillions of dollars in wealth. Millions of homeowners have still not recovered and remain “under water,” meaning they owe more on their mortgages than their homes are worth.

The nation’s homeownership rate fell from a peak of nearly 70 percent in 2004 to 63 percent during the second quarter of this year. As former homeowners have moved into the rental market, they compete with poor and middle-class families for increasingly scarce rental housing, driving up rents.

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Against this backdrop, Carson is taking the reins of the one federal agency tasked with keeping Americans from living on the streets. In contrast to his father, Donald Trump has made his name building glittery, luxury housing for wealthy residents. Ironically, what’s needed today is not only more housing subsidies for the poor, but also a return to the kind of government-backed middle-class housing that Fred Trump and many other builders constructed in the two decades after World War II. But don’t count on Trump—or Carson—to push HUD to rise to that challenge.

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Dec 13, 2017 17:07:12   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
permafrost wrote:
WAIT we have a little more yet..


under President Reagan. Reagan’s HUD became a feeding trough for Republican campaign contributors. Fortunately for Reagan, the media didn't uncover what became known as the “HUD scandal” until he left office. It resulted in the indictment and conviction of top Reagan administration officials for illegally targeting housing subsidies to politically connected developers. Given the president-elect’s reputation for deal-making and rewarding political allies, it’s easy to imagine Carson steering HUD contracts to Trump's donors and supporters.

While Reagan was using HUD to reward his political cronies, he slashed the agency’s budget. HUD has never recovered. Unlike Social Security, Medicare, and supplemental nutrition assistance, federal housing aid is a lottery, not an entitlement. Today, only about one-quarter of eligible low-income families receive any HUD assistance. Federally subsidized housing for the poor—both vouchers and low-rent apartment buildings—represents only 3.5 percent of the nation’s 134 million housing units.


A significant cause of the rental-housing crisis has been the foreclosure epidemic, which drove about eight million home-owning families into the rental market. After banks’ predatory and risky practices precipitated the 2008 housing crash, American homeowners lost trillions of dollars in wealth. Millions of homeowners have still not recovered and remain “under water,” meaning they owe more on their mortgages than their homes are worth.

The nation’s homeownership rate fell from a peak of nearly 70 percent in 2004 to 63 percent during the second quarter of this year. As former homeowners have moved into the rental market, they compete with poor and middle-class families for increasingly scarce rental housing, driving up rents.

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Against this backdrop, Carson is taking the reins of the one federal agency tasked with keeping Americans from living on the streets. In contrast to his father, Donald Trump has made his name building glittery, luxury housing for wealthy residents. Ironically, what’s needed today is not only more housing subsidies for the poor, but also a return to the kind of government-backed middle-class housing that Fred Trump and many other builders constructed in the two decades after World War II. But don’t count on Trump—or Carson—to push HUD to rise to that challenge.
WAIT we have a little more yet.. br br br under ... (show quote)




Really enjoyed the historical tour through some Fred Trump's dealing with the FHA...and the "SPECIFIC" question to ole Moldy was...what crime has Been Carson Committed????
My guess is that the progressive l*****t's are getting so comfortable with false accusations...they just make some up and start running their mouths...no evidence necessary...very sad...I am so very happy for our President Donald J Trump and sticking to his guns a continuing to make America great again...

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Dec 13, 2017 17:18:11   #
moldyoldy
 
byronglimish wrote:
Really enjoyed the historical tour through some Fred Trump's dealing with the FHA...and the "SPECIFIC" question to ole Moldy was...what crime has Been Carson Committed????
My guess is that the progressive l*****t's are getting so comfortable with false accusations...they just make some up and start running their mouths...no evidence necessary...very sad...I am so very happy for our President Donald J Trump and sticking to his guns a continuing to make America great again...


As stated earlier.

byronglimish wrote:
I will pick one out of your accused...Dr.Ben Carson.... how does this man...fall under your accusation of being a criminal??


Trump picked people to destroy the departments that they are supposed to run.

Trying to destroy HUD is criminal.

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Dec 13, 2017 17:31:35   #
kcstargoat
 
permafrost wrote:
WAIT we have a little more yet..


under President Reagan. Reagan’s HUD became a feeding trough for Republican campaign contributors. Fortunately for Reagan, the media didn't uncover what became known as the “HUD scandal” until he left office. It resulted in the indictment and conviction of top Reagan administration officials for illegally targeting housing subsidies to politically connected developers. Given the president-elect’s reputation for deal-making and rewarding political allies, it’s easy to imagine Carson steering HUD contracts to Trump's donors and supporters.

While Reagan was using HUD to reward his political cronies, he slashed the agency’s budget. HUD has never recovered. Unlike Social Security, Medicare, and supplemental nutrition assistance, federal housing aid is a lottery, not an entitlement. Today, only about one-quarter of eligible low-income families receive any HUD assistance. Federally subsidized housing for the poor—both vouchers and low-rent apartment buildings—represents only 3.5 percent of the nation’s 134 million housing units.


A significant cause of the rental-housing crisis has been the foreclosure epidemic, which drove about eight million home-owning families into the rental market. After banks’ predatory and risky practices precipitated the 2008 housing crash, American homeowners lost trillions of dollars in wealth. Millions of homeowners have still not recovered and remain “under water,” meaning they owe more on their mortgages than their homes are worth.

The nation’s homeownership rate fell from a peak of nearly 70 percent in 2004 to 63 percent during the second quarter of this year. As former homeowners have moved into the rental market, they compete with poor and middle-class families for increasingly scarce rental housing, driving up rents.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Against this backdrop, Carson is taking the reins of the one federal agency tasked with keeping Americans from living on the streets. In contrast to his father, Donald Trump has made his name building glittery, luxury housing for wealthy residents. Ironically, what’s needed today is not only more housing subsidies for the poor, but also a return to the kind of government-backed middle-class housing that Fred Trump and many other builders constructed in the two decades after World War II. But don’t count on Trump—or Carson—to push HUD to rise to that challenge.
WAIT we have a little more yet.. br br br under ... (show quote)


This has been very educational and well-written. It seems like HUD should stand for "Housing Underworld Development."

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Dec 13, 2017 17:42:59   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
As stated earlier.

byronglimish wrote:
I will pick one out of your accused...Dr.Ben Carson.... how does this man...fall under your accusation of being a criminal??


Trump picked people to destroy the departments that they are supposed to run.

Trying to destroy HUD is criminal.


Policy that restructures or tweaks a institution does not qualify as a crime...you have proven along with permawh**ever that you are dishonest...not one shred of evidence has either of you presented...not one...only progressive L*****t opinion...

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Dec 13, 2017 18:24:12   #
moldyoldy
 
byronglimish wrote:
Policy that restructures or tweaks a institution does not qualify as a crime...you have proven along with permawh**ever that you are dishonest...not one shred of evidence has either of you presented...not one...only progressive L*****t opinion...


Your credibility!!!!

Politifact names Trump claim that Russian e******n i**********e is 'made-up' as 'Lie of the Year'

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/politifact-names-trump-claim-that-russian-e******n-interference-is-made-up-as-lie-of-the-year/ar-BBGF4Et?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

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Dec 13, 2017 20:05:17   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Your credibility!!!!

Politifact names Trump claim that Russian e******n i**********e is 'made-up' as 'Lie of the Year'

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/politifact-names-trump-claim-that-russian-e******n-interference-is-made-up-as-lie-of-the-year/ar-BBGF4Et?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp




One last time...you said that Carson is a criminal...and you are unable to back up your slanderous accusations.. typical progressive l*****t anti-American domestic jihadist...

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Dec 13, 2017 20:15:22   #
moldyoldy
 
byronglimish wrote:
One last time...you said that Carson is a criminal...and you are unable to back up your slanderous accusations.. typical progressive l*****t anti-American domestic jihadist...


He is a part of the trump criminal enterprise, just like manafort, Flynn, etc. It does not mean his personal crimes are known yet.

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Dec 14, 2017 00:34:43   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
He is a part of the trump criminal enterprise, just like manafort, Flynn, etc. It does not mean his personal crimes are known yet.


If slanderous accusations were felonies, you would most probably be looking at a life sentence...now if you said that there's plenty of evidence that the Clinton's are a Crime syndicate, well we all know that is very plausible..you know it, I know and all of the world knows it.

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Dec 14, 2017 05:28:36   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
meridianlesilie wrote:
true about the walls & it has been here like dummy boy & kevyn --i think they top the dummy club


Charter members for sure

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Dec 14, 2017 06:05:25   #
badbob85037
 
Democrats, ya can't live with them and ya can't k**l em, yet.

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