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Dec 6, 2017 06:53:08   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Why do we need another law? Aiding and abetting are already against the law! Take em away and lock em up!
You can't have a special law for every action. We have the tools to determine good and evil. More laws more mud.

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Dec 6, 2017 07:34:31   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
bilordinary wrote:
Why do we need another law? Aiding and abetting are already against the law! Take em away and lock em up!
You can't have a special law for every action. We have the tools to determine good and evil. More laws more mud.


Aiding and abetting (I suspect) need to be better defined to include police officers following the orders of their superiors. For the police officer, it's not black and white since there is a f**e argument that their bosses give them that they are to uphold local laws.

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Dec 6, 2017 07:42:41   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Police don't judge (haha), they execute. In order to execute they must know the law, if they are required to disobey the law, they should have
strong recourse to that pressure. They can be put in a tough spot, but aren't we all at this time?
Have a good un!

Super Dave wrote:
Aiding and abetting (I suspect) need to be better defined to include police officers following the orders of their superiors. For the police officer, it's not black and white since there is a f**e argument that their bosses give them that they are to uphold local laws.

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Dec 6, 2017 07:53:02   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
bilordinary wrote:
Why do we need another law? Aiding and abetting are already against the law! Take em away and lock em up!
You can't have a special law for every action. We have the tools to determine good and evil. More laws more mud.


According to Indiana Rep. Todd Rokita: "It’s time the federal government gets serious about enforcing i*********n l*ws and holding politicians accountable who conspire to break them." Isn't that why we have periodic e******ns? Nah, that's just me being silly again.

So it would appear that the 'federal government', staffed by many who have sworn an oath to uphold the laws, have been picking and choosing which laws to uphold, and 'politicians', who are also bound by an oath of fidelity, have been actively conspiring to break laws.

They're flouting the existing laws they swore to uphold so we need another law for them to ignore? Makes no sense to me, either.

Actually, yes, it does make some sense on one level. It gives off the impression that 'government', the same ones who broke their oaths, flouted the law and ignored the problem in the first place (inadvertently, of course), are doing something about the problem they caused by breaking their oaths and flouting the law. It's good optics and the plausible claim of 'I'm an immigration hawk, look at the law I made!' might even help in the re-e******n campaign. After all, it worked for (then P**********l candidate) Donald Trump, right?

Yes. But Trump didn't cause the problem in the first place, did he? Well, did he??

But wait! Hold the front page! It turns out that there is no law that says politicians or 'government' are legally bound to keep their oaths! You know, the ones they take when being oh so solemnly 'sworn in' to office? Those oaths are, literally, empty rhetoric. 'Political theater', if you will. We need a law to force the politicians to not break their own laws! Ah. There's just one small loophole. This SLAP act is only intended to reign in State and local politicians, and only for flouting certain laws. Federal politicians, who would enact this new 'follow the law' law, are not subject to it. And who says they won't ignore this one as well...?

Are you kidding me! They're doing it again!

Now I get it. It's just another Federal Government power grab in times of urgency. Well, can't let a good crisis go to waste, right?

What we really need is a law that forces all politicians, local, State and Federal, to follow their oaths of office; and applies real consequences to those who fail to do so. Now all we need to do is find several hundred politicians who understand that they need to be subjected to such limitations and figure out a way to enforce such a law. It really is a question of 'who is watching the watchers', isn't it?

I won't hold my breath.

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Dec 6, 2017 07:57:00   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
bilordinary wrote:
Police don't judge (haha), they execute. In order to execute they must know the law, if they are required to disobey the law, they should have
strong recourse to that pressure. They can be put in a tough spot, but aren't we all at this time?
Have a good un!

I suspect it's difficult when the police have conflicting laws, and the locals enforce the laws they like against the police officers.

Currently a police officer can be fired or possibly prosecuted for turning criminal i******s over to the feds.

Those that order the police officers in these ways should be doing time.

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Dec 6, 2017 08:12:36   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Were on the same page buddy!
Not to criticize, but your picture gives me the illusion that your always shouting, I am listening!
Super Dave wrote:
I suspect it's difficult when the police have conflicting laws, and the locals enforce the laws they like against the police officers.

Currently a police officer can be fired or possibly prosecuted for turning criminal i******s over to the feds.

Those that order the police officers in these ways should be doing time.

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Dec 6, 2017 08:34:15   #
badbob85037
 
bilordinary wrote:
Why do we need another law? Aiding and abetting are already against the law! Take em away and lock em up!
You can't have a special law for every action. We have the tools to determine good and evil. More laws more mud.


We don't need another law. We need to do our duty and d**g these criminals from their perch and try them for their crimes in courts made up of appointed citizens.

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Dec 6, 2017 10:01:55   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
badbob85037 wrote:
We don't need another law. We need to do our duty and d**g these criminals from their perch and try them for their crimes in courts made up of appointed citizens.


Wouldn't that be wonderful? I'd even volunteer to tie the blindfolds. Question: By what law? Yeah, think about it.

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Dec 6, 2017 11:45:38   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Didn't they already declare civil war?

Larry the Legend wrote:
Wouldn't that be wonderful? I'd even volunteer to tie the blindfolds. Question: By what law? Yeah, think about it.

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Dec 6, 2017 13:08:18   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
bilordinary wrote:
Didn't they already declare civil war?


'Civil' war? Are you kidding? Listen, when this dam finally breaks, and it will, there will be nothing 'civil' about it. No, no war yet, but soon, and 'til the end of their pathetic lives.

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Dec 6, 2017 16:29:34   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
A****a declared war but nobody showed!

Larry the Legend wrote:
'Civil' war? Are you kidding? Listen, when this dam finally breaks, and it will, there will be nothing 'civil' about it. No, no war yet, but soon, and 'til the end of their pathetic lives.

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Dec 6, 2017 16:33:47   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
bilordinary wrote:
A****a declared war but nobody showed!


Who?

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Dec 6, 2017 17:38:52   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
www.newsweek.com/a****a-civil-war-november-4-really-j..

Larry the Legend wrote:
Who?

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Dec 6, 2017 18:56:55   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
bilordinary wrote:
A****a declared war but nobody showed!

They can't show their faces.

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Dec 6, 2017 19:17:37   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
bilordinary wrote:
www.newsweek.com/a****a-civil-war-november-4-really-j..


Um, Houston, we have a problem... I clicked the link and:



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