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SAT Scholarship Standards
Mar 6, 2014 19:55:29   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
We are once again lowing the standards so the unprepared, uneducated, and the not quite bright enough have a better chance of scholarships based on their SAT.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/05/living/sat-test-changes-schools/index.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/15/world/americas/15iht-14students.8345918.html?_r=0

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Mar 6, 2014 22:41:40   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
ginnyt wrote:
We are once again lowing the standards so the unprepared, uneducated, and the not quite bright enough have a better chance of scholarships based on their SAT.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/05/living/sat-test-changes-schools/index.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/15/world/americas/15iht-14students.8345918.html?_r=0


They have to lower the scores since the kids are so ignorant now days. They simply are not teaching them much of anything in the normal public schools. Charter schools are quite a bit better, but there are not enough of them for the kids that want to go there.

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Mar 6, 2014 23:53:27   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
MrEd wrote:
They have to lower the scores since the kids are so ignorant now days. They simply are not teaching them much of anything in the normal public schools. Charter schools are quite a bit better, but there are not enough of them for the kids that want to go there.


The kids are indeed ignorant, but we as adults and parents should protest the lowing of standards. This saddens me, it is as though we have given up on the capabilities and potential futures of our youth. We have come to accept bad attitudes, mob type behavior, and disrespect. Now we will need to adjust to speaking very slow and use only monosyllabic words. Vocabulary was one of the items cut from the new SAT standards.

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Mar 7, 2014 00:18:26   #
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I heard about this travesty this morning. Clearly our education system is failing. Maybe it's time for something radical, like, oh I don't know... putting a teacher in charge of educational policies?

One does not reach excellence by lowering the bar.

At the rate and direction the system is going... I may just decide that the best person to take charge of my (future) kids' education, is me. Heck, I may even start liking the voucher idea.

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Mar 7, 2014 05:09:29   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
V***l wrote:
I heard about this travesty this morning. Clearly our education system is failing. Maybe it's time for something radical, like, oh I don't know... putting a teacher in charge of educational policies?

One does not reach excellence by lowering the bar.

At the rate and direction the system is going... I may just decide that the best person to take charge of my (future) kids' education, is me. Heck, I may even start liking the voucher idea.


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Mar 7, 2014 06:49:07   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
ginnyt wrote:
The kids are indeed ignorant, but we as adults and parents should protest the lowing of standards. This saddens me, it is as though we have given up on the capabilities and potential futures of our youth. We have come to accept bad attitudes, mob type behavior, and disrespect. Now we will need to adjust to speaking very slow and use only monosyllabic words. Vocabulary was one of the items cut from the new SAT standards.


Yeah, and who ever heard of the essay being optional? But then, if you can't read, you're not likely to be able to write either. Now days, even in elementary school, if you can read, write and do arithmetic, they want to put you in an advanced class. We scratch our heads as to why our kids are so much further behind than other nations kids and then do crap like this. I think our "experts" need to spend some time in the classroom teaching and less time patting each other on the back for being so "smart".

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Mar 7, 2014 06:59:42   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Yeah, and who ever heard of the essay being optional? But then, if you can't read, you're not likely to be able to write either. Now days, even in elementary school, if you can read, write and do arithmetic, they want to put you in an advanced class. We scratch our heads as to why our kids are so much further behind than other nations kids and then do crap like this. I think our "experts" need to spend some time in the classroom teaching and less time patting each other on the back for being so "smart".
Yeah, and who ever heard of the essay being option... (show quote)


So very true. Heck, you don't need to be able to read and write, just be able to tie your shoes and the qualifications are met. My grandson is in "advanced" classes, but to be sure; and do not take this the wrong way because I am proud of him, he is doing average work.....nothing exceptional. When we finish lowering the bar to ground level, then what? Will they conclude that kids are eligible for Mensa because they can walk and chew gum at the same time?

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Mar 7, 2014 07:14:31   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
ginnyt wrote:
So very true. Heck, you don't need to be able to read and write, just be able to tie your shoes and the qualifications are met. My grandson is in "advanced" classes, but to be sure; and do not take this the wrong way because I am proud of him, he is doing average work.....nothing exceptional. When we finish lowering the bar to ground level, then what? Will they conclude that kids are eligible for Mensa because they can walk and chew gum at the same time?


I'm waiting for one of those gurus to come up with the idea of "give away" high school diplomas. Everybody knows that lack of a high school education causes increased poverty, crime and other unpleasant things. So, sooner or later, some doofus is going to insist that these problems will be solved by ensuring a diploma - no matter what you do, or don't do. You wouldn't even have to show up for classes, just come by, pick up your diploma, and all your problems will be solved.

These boneheads have such a disconnect from real life. They cannot understand what a disservice they are doing to these kids and as a result, the entire country. Being highly educated is not the same as being highly intelligent, but you'll never get the highly educated to see that.

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Mar 7, 2014 07:26:26   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
And what makes you think that they are not already doing this? http://www.hoover.org/publications/hoover-digest/article/6325 This is an interesting observation on the older methods of teaching and what we are rubber stamping as education/intelligence. Also, this article written by a veteran physics teacher. http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/decline1.htm


lpnmajor wrote:
I'm waiting for one of those gurus to come up with the idea of "give away" high school diplomas. Everybody knows that lack of a high school education causes increased poverty, crime and other unpleasant things. So, sooner or later, some doofus is going to insist that these problems will be solved by ensuring a diploma - no matter what you do, or don't do. You wouldn't even have to show up for classes, just come by, pick up your diploma, and all your problems will be solved.

These boneheads have such a disconnect from real life. They cannot understand what a disservice they are doing to these kids and as a result, the entire country. Being highly educated is not the same as being highly intelligent, but you'll never get the highly educated to see that.
I'm waiting for one of those gurus to come up with... (show quote)

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