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Nov 26, 2017 12:13:09   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
OK, gang … have I got your attention yet? Good.
That small explosion occurred last night when I was reading some of the threads that other people have posted.
Bobby invited me to post here because he thought some of my posts to my private email thread deserved wider exposure. I thank him for his support.
But I post these thingies for a couple of reasons.
First, because I give a damn about what direction the country is going, as many of you all do also. Second, I'm looking for answers that make sense that could even be viable and solve some of the problems that the country faces.
What I found, for many entries, was either parroting of existing dogma that is issued by one side or the other, or personal attacks on the person that posted the previous (or original) entry. I didn't come here for that. I'm looking for solutions to the questions and opinions that I post.
I can't either ask or force anyone posting to change their behavior. First, because I wouldn't want anyone to do that to me, and secondly, because there's no way to enforce it if I wanted to. Thirdly, in some cases, it only aggrevates the author of the entry to worse behavior.
" Never try to teach a pig to sing,
not only does it waste your time,
but it annoys the pig."
Robert Heinlein

All I can do is ask that on my original posts, you abide by the following guidelines:
1. Be civil and respect the opinions of others.
2. If you disagree with all or a part of the original post, say that and back it up with facts or reasons that you feel
are relevant.
3. Be willing to accept that there may be a smidgen (or more) of t***h to what the other person is saying.
4. Be willing to offer and (perhaps) accept a compromise so as to get to a viable solution to the question or
opinion that the post posed.
5. And, as Patrick Swazye said in the movie Roadhouse to his would-be bouncers, "Be nice."

Thass all. A simple request. The country is far too divided in many respects to find agreeable compromises to problems that affect all citizens, and we're paying the price for that loss of discussion and civility. Maybe here we can inject a little bit of that civility and stop the tennis match of insults and disparaging remarks in the post replies.
I realize that some of you have been doing this for years, don't take it personally, and enjoy the combat, and this may take the fun out of it. If that's your bag, fine. Just not in my backyard, please.
I can always take my marbles and go home if it gets bad. I reserve that option.

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Nov 26, 2017 12:50:28   #
SilentGeneration Loc: Michigan
 
Thanks for this post. I totally agree with you. Without civil discussion, we can't find ways to come together to work out solutions to the problems we face.

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Nov 26, 2017 12:51:06   #
EmilyStrode
 
whitnebrat wrote:
OK, gang … have I got your attention yet? Good.
That small explosion occurred last night when I was reading some of the threads that other people have posted.
Bobby invited me to post here because he thought some of my posts to my private email thread deserved wider exposure. I thank him for his support.
But I post these thingies for a couple of reasons.
First, because I give a damn about what direction the country is going, as many of you all do also. Second, I'm looking for answers that make sense that could even be viable and solve some of the problems that the country faces.
What I found, for many entries, was either parroting of existing dogma that is issued by one side or the other, or personal attacks on the person that posted the previous (or original) entry. I didn't come here for that. I'm looking for solutions to the questions and opinions that I post.
I can't either ask or force anyone posting to change their behavior. First, because I wouldn't want anyone to do that to me, and secondly, because there's no way to enforce it if I wanted to. Thirdly, in some cases, it only aggrevates the author of the entry to worse behavior.
" Never try to teach a pig to sing,
not only does it waste your time,
but it annoys the pig."
Robert Heinlein

All I can do is ask that on my original posts, you abide by the following guidelines:
1. Be civil and respect the opinions of others.
2. If you disagree with all or a part of the original post, say that and back it up with facts or reasons that you feel
are relevant.
3. Be willing to accept that there may be a smidgen (or more) of t***h to what the other person is saying.
4. Be willing to offer and (perhaps) accept a compromise so as to get to a viable solution to the question or
opinion that the post posed.
5. And, as Patrick Swazye said in the movie Roadhouse to his would-be bouncers, "Be nice."

Thass all. A simple request. The country is far too divided in many respects to find agreeable compromises to problems that affect all citizens, and we're paying the price for that loss of discussion and civility. Maybe here we can inject a little bit of that civility and stop the tennis match of insults and disparaging remarks in the post replies.
I realize that some of you have been doing this for years, don't take it personally, and enjoy the combat, and this may take the fun out of it. If that's your bag, fine. Just not in my backyard, please.
I can always take my marbles and go home if it gets bad. I reserve that option.
OK, gang … have I got your attention yet? Good. br... (show quote)


Welcome, have fun. I have found there are a number of truly good people on both sides of the aisle here. And passions run high for many on both sides out of love for this great country. Sometimes things are said in a moment of anger but should not be taken personally or used to judge. I have seen that continued civility often produces remarkable results and a friend is actually made. You sound like you'll be great here.

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Nov 26, 2017 13:30:44   #
maureenthannon
 
whienbrat, Welcome!! We could all use some civil debate. I hope and pray that ,many of us regulars on this site, self included, will be able to tone it down a bit and make it easier for all of us to stomach others opinions. We, as Americans, could only benefit if we could drop the need to always be the one that's correct, and instead, strive to be"one nation,under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice FOR ALL. It makes no sense for us, no matter what side of the political aisle we stand on, to tear each other down. We have enough enemies, wouldn't it make more sense for us to build our country and fellow Americans up, not tear each other down.We ALL need to remember that 'united we stand, divided we fall".. We have a choice, we can stand together or we'll surely fall apart, Let's choose wisely. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

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Nov 26, 2017 13:41:09   #
son of witless
 
whitnebrat wrote:
OK, gang … have I got your attention yet? Good.
That small explosion occurred last night when I was reading some of the threads that other people have posted.
Bobby invited me to post here because he thought some of my posts to my private email thread deserved wider exposure. I thank him for his support.
But I post these thingies for a couple of reasons.
First, because I give a damn about what direction the country is going, as many of you all do also. Second, I'm looking for answers that make sense that could even be viable and solve some of the problems that the country faces.
What I found, for many entries, was either parroting of existing dogma that is issued by one side or the other, or personal attacks on the person that posted the previous (or original) entry. I didn't come here for that. I'm looking for solutions to the questions and opinions that I post.
I can't either ask or force anyone posting to change their behavior. First, because I wouldn't want anyone to do that to me, and secondly, because there's no way to enforce it if I wanted to. Thirdly, in some cases, it only aggrevates the author of the entry to worse behavior.
" Never try to teach a pig to sing,
not only does it waste your time,
but it annoys the pig."
Robert Heinlein

All I can do is ask that on my original posts, you abide by the following guidelines:
1. Be civil and respect the opinions of others.
2. If you disagree with all or a part of the original post, say that and back it up with facts or reasons that you feel
are relevant.
3. Be willing to accept that there may be a smidgen (or more) of t***h to what the other person is saying.
4. Be willing to offer and (perhaps) accept a compromise so as to get to a viable solution to the question or
opinion that the post posed.
5. And, as Patrick Swazye said in the movie Roadhouse to his would-be bouncers, "Be nice."

Thass all. A simple request. The country is far too divided in many respects to find agreeable compromises to problems that affect all citizens, and we're paying the price for that loss of discussion and civility. Maybe here we can inject a little bit of that civility and stop the tennis match of insults and disparaging remarks in the post replies.
I realize that some of you have been doing this for years, don't take it personally, and enjoy the combat, and this may take the fun out of it. If that's your bag, fine. Just not in my backyard, please.
I can always take my marbles and go home if it gets bad. I reserve that option.
OK, gang … have I got your attention yet? Good. br... (show quote)


Welcome. We can always use new posters.

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Nov 26, 2017 14:18:38   #
EmilyStrode
 
maureenthannon wrote:
whienbrat, Welcome!! We could all use some civil debate. I hope and pray that ,many of us regulars on this site, self included, will be able to tone it down a bit and make it easier for all of us to stomach others opinions. We, as Americans, could only benefit if we could drop the need to always be the one that's correct, and instead, strive to be"one nation,under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice FOR ALL. It makes no sense for us, no matter what side of the political aisle we stand on, to tear each other down. We have enough enemies, wouldn't it make more sense for us to build our country and fellow Americans up, not tear each other down.We ALL need to remember that 'united we stand, divided we fall".. We have a choice, we can stand together or we'll surely fall apart, Let's choose wisely. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
whienbrat, Welcome!! We could all use some civil... (show quote)


Great post, love your comment "We have enough enemies." Yes, that is the point: "divided we fall." It seems like all of us are being played for fools in this moral and political impasse that is slowly strangling this great nation by a hand from each side on the throat of Liberty. We have enough enemies! Our d******eness is a Trojan Horse. "We have met the enemy...and the enemy is us." Think about it. Only from within can our country be destroyed--and that is by ending the democratic bicameral system that has served America so well. Different angles of vision provide for a broader and more accurate view. Stop looking at what is on the Right or stop looking at what is on the Left and we are left with an unfinished and incomplete perspective. Not Kumbaya. No welcoming hugs are needed. Argue, fight, get mad, h**e...but in the end recognize both sides actually need each other to Keep America great.

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Nov 26, 2017 15:59:38   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
whitnebrat wrote:
OK, gang … have I got your attention yet? Good.
That small explosion occurred last night when I was reading some of the threads that other people have posted.
Bobby invited me to post here because he thought some of my posts to my private email thread deserved wider exposure. I thank him for his support.
But I post these thingies for a couple of reasons.
First, because I give a damn about what direction the country is going, as many of you all do also. Second, I'm looking for answers that make sense that could even be viable and solve some of the problems that the country faces.
What I found, for many entries, was either parroting of existing dogma that is issued by one side or the other, or personal attacks on the person that posted the previous (or original) entry. I didn't come here for that. I'm looking for solutions to the questions and opinions that I post.
I can't either ask or force anyone posting to change their behavior. First, because I wouldn't want anyone to do that to me, and secondly, because there's no way to enforce it if I wanted to. Thirdly, in some cases, it only aggrevates the author of the entry to worse behavior.
" Never try to teach a pig to sing,
not only does it waste your time,
but it annoys the pig."
Robert Heinlein

All I can do is ask that on my original posts, you abide by the following guidelines:
1. Be civil and respect the opinions of others.
2. If you disagree with all or a part of the original post, say that and back it up with facts or reasons that you feel
are relevant.
3. Be willing to accept that there may be a smidgen (or more) of t***h to what the other person is saying.
4. Be willing to offer and (perhaps) accept a compromise so as to get to a viable solution to the question or
opinion that the post posed.
5. And, as Patrick Swazye said in the movie Roadhouse to his would-be bouncers, "Be nice."

Thass all. A simple request. The country is far too divided in many respects to find agreeable compromises to problems that affect all citizens, and we're paying the price for that loss of discussion and civility. Maybe here we can inject a little bit of that civility and stop the tennis match of insults and disparaging remarks in the post replies.
I realize that some of you have been doing this for years, don't take it personally, and enjoy the combat, and this may take the fun out of it. If that's your bag, fine. Just not in my backyard, please.
I can always take my marbles and go home if it gets bad. I reserve that option.
OK, gang … have I got your attention yet? Good. br... (show quote)


I always figgered you were smarter than me Brat
now I know it



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Nov 26, 2017 16:02:00   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
maureenthannon wrote:
whienbrat, Welcome!! We could all use some civil debate. I hope and pray that ,many of us regulars on this site, self included, will be able to tone it down a bit and make it easier for all of us to stomach others opinions. We, as Americans, could only benefit if we could drop the need to always be the one that's correct, and instead, strive to be"one nation,under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice FOR ALL. It makes no sense for us, no matter what side of the political aisle we stand on, to tear each other down. We have enough enemies, wouldn't it make more sense for us to build our country and fellow Americans up, not tear each other down.We ALL need to remember that 'united we stand, divided we fall".. We have a choice, we can stand together or we'll surely fall apart, Let's choose wisely. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
whienbrat, Welcome!! We could all use some civil... (show quote)


nicely put maureen


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Nov 27, 2017 08:23:12   #
dune
 
First..HAVE CHILDREN or surrender your culture. Second..Discourse is good it makes you stronger. Third .. Everyone dies even the rich. Forth .. Guns every one should have at least one.
Fifth .. The Ten Commandments is the best outline for society to survive. Sixth .. Mans is far from perfect expect a lot of failures, quit whining and get back up. Seventh .. there are lots of problems in the world that you can do nothing about. Eight .. Government is very inefficient so look for a better way of doing things.

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Nov 27, 2017 10:25:16   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
whitnebrat wrote:
OK, gang … have I got your attention yet? Good.
That small explosion occurred last night when I was reading some of the threads that other people have posted.
Bobby invited me to post here because he thought some of my posts to my private email thread deserved wider exposure. I thank him for his support.
But I post these thingies for a couple of reasons.
First, because I give a damn about what direction the country is going, as many of you all do also. Second, I'm looking for answers that make sense that could even be viable and solve some of the problems that the country faces.
What I found, for many entries, was either parroting of existing dogma that is issued by one side or the other, or personal attacks on the person that posted the previous (or original) entry. I didn't come here for that. I'm looking for solutions to the questions and opinions that I post.
I can't either ask or force anyone posting to change their behavior. First, because I wouldn't want anyone to do that to me, and secondly, because there's no way to enforce it if I wanted to. Thirdly, in some cases, it only aggrevates the author of the entry to worse behavior.
" Never try to teach a pig to sing,
not only does it waste your time,
but it annoys the pig."
Robert Heinlein

All I can do is ask that on my original posts, you abide by the following guidelines:
1. Be civil and respect the opinions of others.
2. If you disagree with all or a part of the original post, say that and back it up with facts or reasons that you feel
are relevant.
3. Be willing to accept that there may be a smidgen (or more) of t***h to what the other person is saying.
4. Be willing to offer and (perhaps) accept a compromise so as to get to a viable solution to the question or
opinion that the post posed.
5. And, as Patrick Swazye said in the movie Roadhouse to his would-be bouncers, "Be nice."

Thass all. A simple request. The country is far too divided in many respects to find agreeable compromises to problems that affect all citizens, and we're paying the price for that loss of discussion and civility. Maybe here we can inject a little bit of that civility and stop the tennis match of insults and disparaging remarks in the post replies.
I realize that some of you have been doing this for years, don't take it personally, and enjoy the combat, and this may take the fun out of it. If that's your bag, fine. Just not in my backyard, please.
I can always take my marbles and go home if it gets bad. I reserve that option.
OK, gang … have I got your attention yet? Good. br... (show quote)


whitnebrat: You have identified several true issues here! The "Cultural C*******t are forcing themselves into our backyards! I will be forced to use my marbles to purge my space of these invaders! As my old Anthropology Professor use to say: " Cultures will alway suppress other Cultures" Most of our suppression comes from domestic enemies! They have dumbed our culture down by design! We have sold our v**es in this Country through our own stupidity!

“The difference between c*******m and socialism, except in the way of achieving the same ultimate goal: c*******m proposes to ens***e men by force, socialism by v****g. Its’ the same difference between murder and suicide.” —Ayn Rand

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Nov 27, 2017 10:38:27   #
Molly2399 Loc: Ohio
 
dune wrote:
First..HAVE CHILDREN or surrender your culture. Second..Discourse is good it makes you stronger. Third .. Everyone dies even the rich. Forth .. Guns every one should have at least one.
Fifth .. The Ten Commandments is the best outline for society to survive. Sixth .. Mans is far from perfect expect a lot of failures, quit whining and get back up. Seventh .. there are lots of problems in the world that you can do nothing about. Eight .. Government is very inefficient so look for a better way of doing things.
First..HAVE CHILDREN or surrender your culture. Se... (show quote)


Just to let you know. I sent some posts to Facebook and I really found them interesting. I receive some replies. The next thing I found I am banned from Facebook. So much for freedom of expression. I could care less. At least I can still use email. I found out that a couple of the enews has been banned also. I asked my friends and family to send pictures to my email. Anyone know a website I can use if not, it really doesn’t matter.

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Nov 27, 2017 20:28:51   #
dune
 
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