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Purgatory, A Catholic Scriptural Perspective Versus "5 Differences Between Catholic Theology And The Gospel's"
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11/24/2017 Purgatory, A Catholic Scriptural Perspective Versus "5 Differences Between Catholic Theology And The Gospel's"

OPP readers, (part 5) Purgatory:

In a recent responses to an anti-Catholic article post, I was threatened and blocked by responding to the "5 differences between Catholic theology and the gospel," by Dummy Boy.
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-118286-1.html

And am correcting the record by explain the true Catholic biblical scriptural perspective on Purgatory, A Scriptural Exposition, versus Dummy Boy's Protestant denial of Purgatory.

All of his comments, statements are false and untrue are without scriptural merit and are taken out of context.

Even here Dummy Boy gets it wrong on Purgatory:

Purgatory:
Is Purgatory a “Place” or a “Condition”?: Misconceptions From [Eastern Orthodox]
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2017/03/purgatory-place-condition.html

Is Purgatory a “Place”?: Misconceptions From Fr. Ambrose About My Opinion (and the Church’s View) / Also: Development and Alleged Historical Revisionism [7-24-05]
https://web.archive.org/web/20150607020733/http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2005/07/is-purgatory-place-misconceptions-from.html

Clarification of My Biblical Defense of Purgatory and its Doctrinal Development [9-20-11; posted to Facebook on 2-17-17]
https://www.facebook.com/dave.armstrong.798/posts/1467310846637229?__fns&hash=Ac3oTOEtl2hjdMGx

11/09/2006 Biblical evidence for the Communion Of Saints, Purgatory, & Penance (Index Page)

Dave Armstrong
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2006/11/saints-purgatory-penance-index.html

Asterisked papers are from old Blogspot Internet Archive versions, Allow a minute or two to upload and select versions from July 2015 and earlier.

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COMMUNION OF SAINTS: GENERAL
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Reflections on the Communion of Saints [1994] *
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The Communion of Saints: Biblical Overview [1995; posted to Facebook on 1-27-17; published in The Catholic Answer (Nov / Dec 1998)]
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Dialogues on Objections to the Communion of Saints [1996]
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“Witnesses” of Hebrews 12:1 (Communion of Saints) [1998]
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Bible and Catholicism on Ghosts and Messages from God in Dreams [2-7-06]
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Reply to James White on Communion of Saints [6-20-07]
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Biblical Evidence (Suggested by Protestants Like Jonathan Edwards) For Saints in Heaven Being Aware of Earthly Events [6-23-07] *
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Samuel Appearing to Saul: Argument for Communion of Saints? [7-1-07]
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Communion of Saints: Anti-Catholic Douglas Mabry’s Self-Destructing Reductio ad Absurdum [7-8-07] *
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The False Doctrine of “Soul Sleep” and Prayers To, For, and From the Dead: the Biblical Evidence Confirms Catholic Belief [11-28-07] *
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Dialogue with a Protestant on the Communion of Saints [3-19-11] *
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Books by Dave Armstrong: Biblical Evidence for the Communion of Saints [2012]
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Treatise on Communion of Saints (Anthony Zarrella) [6-9-16]
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COMMUNION OF SAINTS: INVOCATION AND INTERCESSION OF SAINTS AND ANGELS 
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“Witnesses” of Hebrews 12:1 (Communion of Saints) [1998]
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Dialogue: Are Dead Saints Playing Harps or Interceding? [2-15-06]
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Dead Saints: Playing Harps on Clouds or Interceding? [12-29-06]
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Answering an Inquiring “Bible Christian” on “Praying to Dead Saints” (Including a New [?] Argument For Same) [3-1-07] *
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Does God Forbid All Contact with the Dead? [6-23-07]
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Praying to Saints: Brief Exchange with Sincere Inquirer [5-27-08]
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The Lack of Prayer to the Holy Spirit in the NT as an Analogy to the Invocation and Intercession of the Saints and Angels (“Adomnan”) [6-7-08] *
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Protestants Who Forbid Prayer to the Holy Spirit and/or to Jesus ( Reductio ad Absurdum of Sola Scriptura) [6-9-08] *
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Bible on Invocation of Angels & Saved Human Beings [6-10-08]
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“One Mediator” (1 Tim 2:5) vs. All Human Mediation? [10-14-08]
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Invocation of the Saints = Necromancy? [10-18-08]
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Invocation of Saints & the Bible: Dialogue [2-14-10]
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“Why pray to a saint rather than to God?” [4-1-10]
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Luther’s Early Belief in Invocation of the Saints [10-4-11]
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Quick Biblical Evidences and Indications for Invocation and Intercession of Saints and Angels [Facebook, 10-22-12]
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Does Invoking Mary at Death Ignore Jesus? [9-22-13]
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Bible on Asking Dead Men to Intercede (Luke 16) [7-8-14]  
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Dialogue with an Anglican on “Praying to Mary,” Patron Saints, Etc. (vs. Dr. Lydia McGrew) [11-10-14]
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Exchange with a Calvinist on Prayers for and to the Dead (vs. Kevin Jandt) [Facebook, 3-19-15]
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Praying to Angels & Angelic Intercession [2015]

Asking Saints to Intercede: Teaching of Jesus [2015]

Why Pray to Saints Rather than God? [9-4-15]

Reply to a Lutheran Pastor on Invocation of Saints [12-1-15]

John Calvin Did Not Pray to Philip Melanchthon [9-19-09; revised with retraction, 5-3-16]

Dialogue on Praying to Abraham (Luke 16) [5-22-16]

Prayer to Saints: “New” [?] Biblical Argument [5-23-16]

Treatise on Communion of Saints (Anthony Zarrella) [6-9-16]

Must Catholics Pray to Saints or be Excommunicated? [Facebook, 12-2-16]
What Do Catholics Mean When They Say, “Praying to the Saints”? [Facebook, 1-9-17]

“Armstrong vs. Geisler” #5: Prayer to Creatures [2-20-17]

Dialogue: Rich Man’s Prayer to Abraham (Luke 16) and the Invocation of Saints (vs. Lutheran Pastor Ken Howes) [5-3-17]

Dialogue on Samuel Appearing to Saul (Witch of Endor) [5-6-17]
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COMMUNION OF SAINTS: VENERATION OF SAINTS AND ANGELS 
Is Mary Worshiped by Catholics? [3-8-99]
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Veneration of Saints and Its Doctrinal Development: Dialogue with an Inquiring Baptist [12-1-08]
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Blasphemy Against Creatures & Things (Not Just Against God: A Biblical Exposition) [11-30-11]
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Bible on Veneration of Saints & Angels: John Calvin’s Antipathy to Veneration of Saints and Angels vs. Explicit Biblical Evidences of Same [10-1-12]
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Biblical Evidence for Veneration of Saints [2013]
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Veneration of and Bowing Before an Angel in the Bible (Joshua 5:13-15) [Facebook post and discussion, 9-7-13]
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Venerating & Bowing Before Angels & Men: Biblical? [11-10-14]
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New (?) Analogical Biblical Argument for Veneration of the Saints and Angels from the Prohibition of Blasphemy of the Same  [8-8-15]
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Bible on the Veneration of Angels & Men [9-10-15]
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“Armstrong vs. Geisler” #8: Veneration; Bowing to Creatures [3-2-17]
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Biblical Examples of Veneration of Human Beings: Paul, David, and Daniel [Facebook, 5-20-17]
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COMMUNION OF SAINTS: ICONS AND IMAGES / HOLY OBJECTS 
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Early Protestant Antipathy Towards Art (+ Iconoclasm) [1991]
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Veneration of Images, Iconoclasm, and Idolatry (An Exposition) [11-15-02] 
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Ten Commandments: Changed by Catholics to Uphold Idolatry? [9-4-04] 
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Bible on Holy Places & Things [1-8-08]
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Martin Luther on Crucifixes, Images and Statues of Saints, and the Sign of the Cross [4-15-08] 
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Bible on Candles, Incense, & Symbolism for Prayer [2-16-09]
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Dialogue on Sacramentalism, Holy Objects, and Relics [2-26-09] 
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Bible on Physical Objects as Aids in Worship [4-7-09]
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Calvin, Zwingli, and Bullinger vs. Statues of Christ, Crucifixes, & Crosses [9-19-09] 
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Crucifixes: Abominable Idols or Devotional Aids? [11-10-09]
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“Turretinfan” Calls a Statue of Our Lord Jesus an “Idol” While His Buddy Bishop James White Praises the Statues of Calvin, Farel, Beza, and Knox [6-8-10; posted to Facebook on 2-7-17] 
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4th Century Icons of St. Peter and St. Paul Found in Rome [6-23-10; posted to Facebook on 2-7-17] 
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Christmas Trees as Idols?: Silly So-Called “Arguments” from Holy Scripture [12-12-10] 
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Biblical Evidence for Worship of God Via an Image [6-24-11]
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Blasphemy Against Creatures & Things: Not Just Against God: A Biblical Exposition [11-30-11]
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Lutheran Philosopher Gottfried Leibniz on Non-Idolatrous Veneration and Pious, Devotional Use of Images [Facebook, 1-23-12] 
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Massive Protestant Idolatry at Christmastime? [12-15-13]
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Dialogue on Worship of God Via Natural Images (vs. Jim Drickamer) [1-16-17]
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Catholicism Completely Opposes Idolatry, Too [Facebook, 1-18-17]
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“Armstrong vs. Geisler” #9: Images & Relics [3-2-17]
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Biblical Evidence for Holy Water (Nicholas Hardest)


COMMUNION OF SAINTS: RELICS

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Biblical Evidence for Relics [2004]
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Are Relics & Sacraments Mere Magical Charms? [2007]
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Relics: Debate with a Baptist Pastor [6-3-08]
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Dialogue on Sacramentalism, Holy Objects, and Relics [2-26-09] 
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My Wedding Ring: Third-Class Relic (+ Examination of Fine Distinctions of Relic Classes) [9-16-15] [+ Facebook discussion: 4 November 2014; my ring touched 100 holy items in the Holy Land]
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“Armstrong vs. Geisler” #9: Images & Relics [3-2-17]
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Veneration of Relics: A Short Apologia [Facebook, 5-5-17]

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Nov 24, 2017 19:47:26   #
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PURGATORY AND SHEOL (HADES)
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Biblical Overview on Penance, Purgatory, and Indulgences: “Saved As By Fire” [1994] *

Reflections on Penance and Purgatory [1994] *

Fictional Dialogue on Purgatory [1995]

25 Bible Passages on Purgatory [1996]

Short Exposition on Purgatory [5-9-02; posted to Facebook on 1-27-17]

Dialogue on Purgatory and its Relation to Baptism and Penance [9-30-02] *

A Biblical Argument for Purgatory (Matthew 5:25-26) [10-13-04]

Is Purgatory a “Place” or a “Condition”?: Misconceptions From [Eastern Orthodox] Fr. Ambrose About My Opinion (and the Church’s View) / Also: Development and Alleged Historical Revisionism [7-24-05]

Dialogue with Lutherans on Jesus’ Descent Into “Hell” [2-1-07]

Purgatory: Refutation of James White (1 Corinthians 3:10-15) [3-3-07]
Has Limbo Been Relegated to Limbo? [12-28-07]

Luther Believed in Soul Sleep; Thus He Rejected Purgatory [2-9-08]

Dialogue on Sheol / Hades (Limbo of the Fathers) and Luke 16 (the Rich Man and Lazarus) with a Baptist (vs. “Grubb”) [2-28-08]

Luther: Purgatory “Quite Plain” in 2 Maccabees [3-5-09]

Purgatory is the Waiting Room for Heaven [4-25-09]

Luke 23:43 (Thief on the Cross): “Paradise” = Sheol, Not Heaven, According to Many Reputable Protestant Scholars [5-25-09]

50 Bible Passages on Purgatory & Analogous Processes [2009]

John Wesley’s Belief in an Intermediate State After Death [7-13-09]

C. S. Lewis’ Belief in Purgatory & Prayer for the Dead [6-22-10]

Clarification of My Biblical Defense of Purgatory and its Doctrinal Development [9-20-11; posted to Facebook on 2-17-17]

Jewish Belief in Purgatory By the Time of Jesus (Paul Hoffer) [9-20-11; posted to Facebook on 2-17-17]

John Wesley’s View of Purgatory and Analogous Processes [2013]

Dialogue with an Evangelical on Purgatory [10-7-13]

Multiple Meanings of “Paradise” in Scripture [1-2-14]

Purgatory in One Verse (1 Corinthians 3:15) [Facebook, 1-29-14]

Martin Luther’s Belief in Purgatory [Facebook, 11-17-14]

The Raising of Tabitha as a Compelling Indicator of Purgatory (Tony Gerring) [3-20-15; posted to Facebook on 2-17-17]

Dialogue with a Lutheran About Purgatory [3-20-15; extensive interaction in the combox] *

“Armstrong vs. Geisler” #1: Purgatory (Mt 12:32) [2-17-17]

“Armstrong vs. Geisler” #2: Purgatory (Lk 23:43) [2-17-17]

Did Jesus Descend to Hell, Sheol, or Paradise After His Death? [National Catholic Register, 4-17-17]

Exchange on Purgatory with my Presbyterian Friend, John E. Taylor [Facebook, 5-11-17]

Armstrong vs. Collins & Walls #7: Unbiblical / Non-Patristic Purgatory? [10-19-17]
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PRAYER AND PENANCE FOR THE DEAD
Baptizing the Dead? (Odd Verse 1 Corinthians 15:29) [6-5-02]
New (?) Biblical Argument: Prayers for the Dead [2004]

Martin Luther Espouses Prayer for the Dead / Retroactive Prayer [3-22-05; posted to Facebook on 2-17-17]

Does God Forbid All Contact with the Dead? [6-23-07]

The False Doctrine of “Soul Sleep” and Prayers To, For, and From the Dead: the Biblical Evidence Confirms Catholic Belief [11-28-07] *

John Wesley Believed in Prayer for the Dead [7-13-09]

C. S. Lewis’ Belief in Purgatory & Prayer for the Dead [6-22-10]

Fasting for the Dead in the Old Testament (Not Unlike Praying) [11-4-12]

Dialogue on Prayer for the Dead & the Bible [11-5-12]

Elijah, Jesus, and Peter Prayed for the Dead, and Jesus and St. Peter Practiced Invocation of the Dead (Isn’t the Bible Great?) [Facebook, 6-9-13] 

“Pray for the Dead Like Paul Did!” (mock Church billboard) [Facebook, 2-10-14]

Exchange with a Calvinist on Prayers for and to the Dead (vs. Kevin Jandt) [Facebook, 3-19-15]

“Armstrong vs. Geisler” #4: Prayer for the Dead [2-20-17]
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PRAYER FOR THE DEAD: ST. PAUL AND ONESIPHORUS
Paul Prayed for Dead Onesiphorus (Protestant Commentaries) [7-14-09]

Prayer for the Dead: Lutheran Pastor (LCMS) Defends it from Scripture, Citing the Pauline Example of Onesiphorus [11-22-09] *

Cardinal Newman on Onesiphorus and Prayer for the Dead [Facebook, 3-18-15]

St. Paul Prayed for a Dead Man: Onesiphorus [8-19-15]

Was Onesiphorus Dead When Paul Prayed (Or, “Wished” as it Were) for Him? Data from 16 Recent Protestant Commentaries (1992-2016) [Facebook, 3-20-17]
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PENANCE, CONFESSION, AND ABSOLUTION
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Biblical Overview on Penance, Purgatory, and Indulgences: “Saved As By Fire” [1994] *
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Reflections on Penance and Purgatory [1994] *
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Fictional Dialogue on Penance [1995]
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Karl Adam, G. K. Chesterton, and Karl Keating on Confession [5-27-04; posted to Facebook on 2-28-17]
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Reply to James White: Penance & Redemptive Suffering: His Critique of My Book, The Catholic Verses: Part VI [1-2-05]
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Biblical Evidence for Formal Forgiveness of Sins and Absolution (Confession) [6-10-07; posted to Facebook on 2-28-17]
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Exchange with Reformed Protestants on Penance and the Vulgate’s Phrase, “Do Penance” (vs. Jonathan Bonomo) [2-2-08] *
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Martin Luther on Absolution & Private Confession [4-14-08]
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Biblical (Pauline) Evidence for the Catholic Examination of Conscience [7-14-08; posted to Facebook on 2-28-17]
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St. Mary Magdalene: Former Prostitute? [7-22-09]
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Temporal Punishment After Forgiveness: Catholicism (vs. John Calvin) [10-18-12]
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The Bible on Confession & Absolution [2013]
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Can Only God Forgive and Absolve Sins? Nope: Both Men and Angels Can, as Representatives of Him [Facebook, 18 July 2014]
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INDULGENCES
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Biblical Overview on Penance, Purgatory, and Indulgences: “Saved As By Fire” [1994] *
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Biblical Evidence for Indulgences [1996]
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A Primer on Indulgences (David W. Emery) [7-9-09] *
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Catholic Indulgences: History & Myths [8-6-16]
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Myths and Facts Regarding Tetzel and Indulgences [11-25-16; published in Catholic Herald]
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MORTIFICATION, FASTING, ABSTINENCE, ASCETICISM, SUFFERING, REDEMPTIVE SUFFERING, AND LENT
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Bible on Suffering and Hope in the Midst of It [1981]
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Lenten Meditation: New Testament on Suffering with Christ [1996]
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Monasticism Defended [1997; posted to Facebook on 2-28-17] 
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Lenten Meditation: Suffering & Comfort (Psalms) [3-22-04]
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Colossians 1:24 and One Interesting Protestant Interpretation (Rev. Michael Pahls) [3-15-06] *
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Friday as a Required Day of Penance (Not Necessarily Abstinence from Meat) in the United States: a Clarification [11-9-09] *
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Biblical Evidence for Penitential Mortification [2-19-10]
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Abstinence on Fridays & Meat: Doctrine or Discipline? [4-11-11] 
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Biblical Evidence for Lent [2-15-12]
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Fasting for the Dead in the Old Testament (Not Unlike Praying) [11-4-12]
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Redemptive Suffering (For the Sake of Others) [9-22-15]
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“No Ritual Can Make One’s Heart Right with Jesus”. False! [2-12-16]
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“Armstrong vs. Geisler” #3: Merit & Penitential Suffering [2-18-17]
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Should We Give Up Facebook for Lent or No? [Facebook, 3-1-17]
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Heads Up on the #Ashtag Controversy [3-6-17]
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The devil’s antics in opposing Christians, and suffering in the Christian life [The Michigan Catholic, 3-24-17]

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