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Why Civilians Join Wars Against America
Nov 22, 2017 20:18:17   #
Nickolai
 
Nicolas J S Davies

Sixteen years into our seemingly endless state of war since September 11th, a significant body of research is finally emerging to clarify who exactly U.S. forces are fighting in their ever-expanding war zones, and what drives civilians to join armed groups like the Taliban, Al Qaeda and Islamic State.
We have been told that U.S. forces are “fighting them there” so that we don’t have to “fight them here.” But researchers are learning that, like the Iraqis who rose up to resist the illegal U.S. invasion and occupation of their country, most of the people joining armed groups across the Middle East and Africa are only fighting at all because U.S. and allied forces are “fighting them there,” in their countries, cities, villages and homes.

In 2015, the Center for Civilians in Conflict published the results of interviews with 250 people who joined armed groups in Bosnia, Somalia, Gaza and Libya in a report titled, The People’s Perspective: Civilian Involvement in Armed Conflict. One of its main findings was that, “The most common motivation for involvement, described by interviewees in all four case studies, was the protection of self or family.”

Also in 2015, Lydia Wilson, a researcher from Oxford University, was allowed to interview a number of captured Islamic State fighters in Kirkuk, Iraq.  It was hard for Wilson to find captured Islamic State fighters to interview, because Kurdish and U.S.-backed Iraqi government forces summarily execute Islamic State fighters that they capture. But the police in Kirkuk were holding prisoners and trying them in court, so Wilson got permission from the police chief to talk to some of them.

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Nov 22, 2017 20:52:31   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Although The Experiment Called 'The United States of America'
Is The Only Real Call To World Revolution
It Still Remains
Most People Don't Have An American Within Them Crying To Get Out
(Even Here In The United States)

It's Much Easier To Be Regulated And Herded About
You Know Where You'll Be, And What You'll Do Each Day
Much More Secure, Emotionally Comfortable And Relieves One Of Most Responsibility
Regardless Of One's Station

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Nov 23, 2017 04:55:05   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Nickolai wrote:
Nicolas J S Davies

Sixteen years into our seemingly endless state of war since September 11th, a significant body of research is finally emerging to clarify who exactly U.S. forces are fighting in their ever-expanding war zones, and what drives civilians to join armed groups like the Taliban, Al Qaeda and Islamic State.
We have been told that U.S. forces are “fighting them there” so that we don’t have to “fight them here.” But researchers are learning that, like the Iraqis who rose up to resist the illegal U.S. invasion and occupation of their country, most of the people joining armed groups across the Middle East and Africa are only fighting at all because U.S. and allied forces are “fighting them there,” in their countries, cities, villages and homes.

In 2015, the Center for Civilians in Conflict published the results of interviews with 250 people who joined armed groups in Bosnia, Somalia, Gaza and Libya in a report titled, The People’s Perspective: Civilian Involvement in Armed Conflict. One of its main findings was that, “The most common motivation for involvement, described by interviewees in all four case studies, was the protection of self or family.”

Also in 2015, Lydia Wilson, a researcher from Oxford University, was allowed to interview a number of captured Islamic State fighters in Kirkuk, Iraq.  It was hard for Wilson to find captured Islamic State fighters to interview, because Kurdish and U.S.-backed Iraqi government forces summarily execute Islamic State fighters that they capture. But the police in Kirkuk were holding prisoners and trying them in court, so Wilson got permission from the police chief to talk to some of them.
Nicolas J S Davies br br Sixteen years into our ... (show quote)


Welcome

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Nov 23, 2017 11:17:17   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Nickolai wrote:
Nicolas J S Davies

Sixteen years into our seemingly endless state of war since September 11th, a significant body of research is finally emerging to clarify who exactly U.S. forces are fighting in their ever-expanding war zones, and what drives civilians to join armed groups like the Taliban, Al Qaeda and Islamic State.
We have been told that U.S. forces are “fighting them there” so that we don’t have to “fight them here.” But researchers are learning that, like the Iraqis who rose up to resist the illegal U.S. invasion and occupation of their country, most of the people joining armed groups across the Middle East and Africa are only fighting at all because U.S. and allied forces are “fighting them there,” in their countries, cities, villages and homes.

In 2015, the Center for Civilians in Conflict published the results of interviews with 250 people who joined armed groups in Bosnia, Somalia, Gaza and Libya in a report titled, The People’s Perspective: Civilian Involvement in Armed Conflict. One of its main findings was that, “The most common motivation for involvement, described by interviewees in all four case studies, was the protection of self or family.”

Also in 2015, Lydia Wilson, a researcher from Oxford University, was allowed to interview a number of captured Islamic State fighters in Kirkuk, Iraq.  It was hard for Wilson to find captured Islamic State fighters to interview, because Kurdish and U.S.-backed Iraqi government forces summarily execute Islamic State fighters that they capture. But the police in Kirkuk were holding prisoners and trying them in court, so Wilson got permission from the police chief to talk to some of them.
Nicolas J S Davies br br Sixteen years into our ... (show quote)


I'd like to see a list of the questions she asked and the answers she received.

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Nov 23, 2017 20:33:52   #
boatbob2
 
Hell,k**l them all (isis),god will sort them out,And I dont have to worry about meeting any moslimes if/when I get to heaven...

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Nov 23, 2017 20:38:38   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
boatbob2 wrote:
Hell,k**l them all (isis),god will sort them out,And I dont have to worry about meeting any moslimes if/when I get to heaven...

What if they are there too?

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Nov 24, 2017 10:52:35   #
boatbob2
 
Nope,God would NEVER allow a moslime in heaven,(maybe not me either)

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Nov 24, 2017 12:45:16   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
boatbob2 wrote:
Nope,God would NEVER allow a moslime in heaven,(maybe not me either)


Did she tell you no "moslimes"?

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Nov 24, 2017 15:39:57   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Nickolai wrote:
Nicolas J S Davies

Sixteen years into our seemingly endless state of war since September 11th, a significant body of research is finally emerging to clarify who exactly U.S. forces are fighting in their ever-expanding war zones, and what drives civilians to join armed groups like the Taliban, Al Qaeda and Islamic State.
We have been told that U.S. forces are “fighting them there” so that we don’t have to “fight them here.” But researchers are learning that, like the Iraqis who rose up to resist the illegal U.S. invasion and occupation of their country, most of the people joining armed groups across the Middle East and Africa are only fighting at all because U.S. and allied forces are “fighting them there,” in their countries, cities, villages and homes.

In 2015, the Center for Civilians in Conflict published the results of interviews with 250 people who joined armed groups in Bosnia, Somalia, Gaza and Libya in a report titled, The People’s Perspective: Civilian Involvement in Armed Conflict. One of its main findings was that, “The most common motivation for involvement, described by interviewees in all four case studies, was the protection of self or family.”

Also in 2015, Lydia Wilson, a researcher from Oxford University, was allowed to interview a number of captured Islamic State fighters in Kirkuk, Iraq.  It was hard for Wilson to find captured Islamic State fighters to interview, because Kurdish and U.S.-backed Iraqi government forces summarily execute Islamic State fighters that they capture. But the police in Kirkuk were holding prisoners and trying them in court, so Wilson got permission from the police chief to talk to some of them.
Nicolas J S Davies br br Sixteen years into our ... (show quote)

Let's see if we can figure out what is really going on here.
First, it is no surprise that a Marxist liberal like Nikolai would find some ridiculously insignificant report (unsourced) with which to launch another H**e America attack.

The population of all four of the countries named--Bosnia, Somalia, Gaza and Libya--are predominately Muslim. All four of these countries are constantly in a state of turmoil and civil strife. Islamic terrorists are active in all four of these countries.

The Palestinian terror group, Hamas, and the Fatah dominated Palestinian Authority are competing for control of Gaza. Plus Hamas will not back off in its attacks on Israel.

Somalia is in a constant state of civil war, primarily between the moderate Sufi Ahlu Sunna Waljama'a and the Islamist Al-Shabaab.

Libya also is in a constant state of civil war. It began in 2015 when Islamic radicals seized power and attempted to impose Sharia law. The main Islamist faction, the New General National Congress and the Libyan National Army went to war.

The population of Bosnia-Herzegovina is predominately Muslim, ISIS is actively recruiting in Bosnia.

All four of these countries are separated by hundreds, even thousands of miles. The combined population of these four countries totals 22.5 million. So, some obscure bleeding hearts talked to 0.001% of that total and concluded that this constitutes "a significant body of research".

In case you didn't know this, Nik, the protection of self and family is a basic instinct in civilized human beings. That's why rational, intelligent Americans among us carry guns.

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Nov 25, 2017 09:16:10   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Let's see if we can figure out what is really going on here.
First, it is no surprise that a Marxist liberal like Nikolai would find some ridiculously insignificant report (unsourced) with which to launch another H**e America attack.

The population of all four of the countries named--Bosnia, Somalia, Gaza and Libya--are predominately Muslim. All four of these countries are constantly in a state of turmoil and civil strife. Islamic terrorists are active in all four of these countries.

The Palestinian terror group, Hamas, and the Fatah dominated Palestinian Authority are competing for control of Gaza. Plus Hamas will not back off in its attacks on Israel.

Somalia is in a constant state of civil war, primarily between the moderate Sufi Ahlu Sunna Waljama'a and the Islamist Al-Shabaab.

Libya also is in a constant state of civil war. It began in 2015 when Islamic radicals seized power and attempted to impose Sharia law. The main Islamist faction, the New General National Congress and the Libyan National Army went to war.

The population of Bosnia-Herzegovina is predominately Muslim, ISIS is actively recruiting in Bosnia.

All four of these countries are separated by hundreds, even thousands of miles. The combined population of these four countries totals 22.5 million. So, some obscure bleeding hearts talked to 0.001% of that total and concluded that this constitutes "a significant body of research".

In case you didn't know this, Nik, the protection of self and family is a basic instinct in civilized human beings. That's why rational, intelligent Americans among us carry guns.
Let's see if we can figure out what is really goin... (show quote)


True all that and those Bosnians are the people Greasy Bill bombed to keep the Serbs from wiping out. Bill won the Charlemagne Prize and a million bucks for that deal. Look at the fruit of our intervention.

Pay attention to the growing cooperation between Russia, Iran, Syria and Turkey. Prophetic fulfilment there.

The clock is ticking.

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