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Mar 4, 2014 12:11:30   #
typhoon
 
I am only 62 but I had a taste of what America was like before the c**p d'état in 63. People were alive in that you had no idea what was going to come out of their mouths but it was going to be witty, funny or provoke thought. Every other person in my parents generation could play an instrument well. Social interaction was more than showing each other pictures of what you had for dinner. When the President spoke to the citizens it was with respect to all and down to none. Black musicians were the source for the most fascinating music you will ever hear not potty mouth nursery rhyme to a simple beat. In junior high you could obsess over the opposite sex without fear of offending anyone. Food was not as processed and family dinners happened every day. Musical artist earned there way to the top by popular demand not a platinum record deal done at Warner Brothers before anyone even knows who the artist is. I could go on and on but now is not the time to write a book. I would like to hear others talk about the qualities of life in America pre 1963.

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Mar 4, 2014 12:17:21   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
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Mar 4, 2014 12:20:51   #
jay-are
 
typhoon wrote:
I am only 62 but I had a taste of what America was like before the c**p d'état in 63. People were alive in that you had no idea what was going to come out of their mouths but it was going to be witty, funny or provoke thought. Every other person in my parents generation could play an instrument well. Social interaction was more than showing each other pictures of what you had for dinner. When the President spoke to the citizens it was with respect to all and down to none. Black musicians were the source for the most fascinating music you will ever hear not potty mouth nursery rhyme to a simple beat. In junior high you could obsess over the opposite sex without fear of offending anyone. Food was not as processed and family dinners happened every day. Musical artist earned there way to the top by popular demand not a platinum record deal done at Warner Brothers before anyone even knows who the artist is. I could go on and on but now is not the time to write a book. I would like to hear others talk about the qualities of life in America pre 1963.
I am only 62 but I had a taste of what America was... (show quote)


The graph of happiness and standard of living and America's positive image was sloping upward up to that point and, since then, there has been a gradual downward slide. What caused the graph to change slope at that moment in time?

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Mar 4, 2014 12:28:44   #
Retired669
 
typhoon wrote:
I am only 62 but I had a taste of what America was like before the c**p d'état in 63. People were alive in that you had no idea what was going to come out of their mouths but it was going to be witty, funny or provoke thought. Every other person in my parents generation could play an instrument well. Social interaction was more than showing each other pictures of what you had for dinner. When the President spoke to the citizens it was with respect to all and down to none. Black musicians were the source for the most fascinating music you will ever hear not potty mouth nursery rhyme to a simple beat. In junior high you could obsess over the opposite sex without fear of offending anyone. Food was not as processed and family dinners happened every day. Musical artist earned there way to the top by popular demand not a platinum record deal done at Warner Brothers before anyone even knows who the artist is. I could go on and on but now is not the time to write a book. I would like to hear others talk about the qualities of life in America pre 1963.
I am only 62 but I had a taste of what America was... (show quote)



I'm the same age as you and I'll never forget sitting in school when it was announced JFK had been shot and later died. I also remember many of the things you mentioned. We use to fish everyday we could after school. I was watching TV when Oswald was shot and when Bobby Kennedy was shot. I will never forget both of those along with MLK being shot. Someone or more likely a group of people wanted history changed by k*****g all 3. The same thing happened with 9/11.

I remember Barry Goldwater in 1964 preaching the dems are going to take your guns away if they are elected. Here we are 50 years later and I still have my guns along with 99.99% of the people. I also remember the dems saying Goldwater would use nukes if he was elected.

I certainly don't want to go back to that time in our history and a majority of people don't want to either. :thumbup:

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Mar 4, 2014 12:54:44   #
jay-are
 
Retired669 wrote:
I'm the same age as you and I'll never forget sitting in school when it was announced JFK had been shot and later died. I also remember many of the things you mentioned. We use to fish everyday we could after school. I was watching TV when Oswald was shot and when Bobby Kennedy was shot. I will never forget both of those along with MLK being shot. Someone or more likely a group of people wanted history changed by k*****g all 3. The same thing happened with 9/11.

I remember Barry Goldwater in 1964 preaching the dems are going to take your guns away if they are elected. Here we are 50 years later and I still have my guns along with 99.99% of the people. I also remember the dems saying Goldwater would use nukes if he was elected.

I certainly don't want to go back to that time in our history and a majority of people don't want to either. :thumbup:
I'm the same age as you and I'll never forget sitt... (show quote)


I'm with typhoon, that life in America was better before 1963. That is one critical of that time, and two who feel that time was good. So far you are in the minority.

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Mar 4, 2014 12:56:15   #
typhoon
 
I like the part about fishing. Everything else was after 63.
Retired669 wrote:
I'm the same age as you and I'll never forget sitting in school when it was announced JFK had been shot and later died. I also remember many of the things you mentioned. We use to fish everyday we could after school. I was watching TV when Oswald was shot and when Bobby Kennedy was shot. I will never forget both of those along with MLK being shot. Someone or more likely a group of people wanted history changed by k*****g all 3. The same thing happened with 9/11.

I remember Barry Goldwater in 1964 preaching the dems are going to take your guns away if they are elected. Here we are 50 years later and I still have my guns along with 99.99% of the people. I also remember the dems saying Goldwater would use nukes if he was elected.

I certainly don't want to go back to that time in our history and a majority of people don't want to either. :thumbup:
I'm the same age as you and I'll never forget sitt... (show quote)

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Mar 4, 2014 13:06:59   #
typhoon
 
The best way to answer that is find two speeches that were 90 days apart in early 1961. One by President Eisenhower to the American people and the second by President Kennedy to a gathering of the press asking for help, he got none. Both address your question. Please find the full versions of both not just the sound bites. Ike's was 15 min. and JFKs was 20.
jay-are wrote:
The graph of happiness and standard of living and America's positive image was sloping upward up to that point and, since then, there has been a gradual downward slide. What caused the graph to change slope at that moment in time?

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Mar 4, 2014 13:08:30   #
vernon
 
typhoon wrote:
I am only 62 but I had a taste of what America was like before the c**p d'état in 63. People were alive in that you had no idea what was going to come out of their mouths but it was going to be witty, funny or provoke thought. Every other person in my parents generation could play an instrument well. Social interaction was more than showing each other pictures of what you had for dinner. When the President spoke to the citizens it was with respect to all and down to none. Black musicians were the source for the most fascinating music you will ever hear not potty mouth nursery rhyme to a simple beat. In junior high you could obsess over the opposite sex without fear of offending anyone. Food was not as processed and family dinners happened every day. Musical artist earned there way to the top by popular demand not a platinum record deal done at Warner Brothers before anyone even knows who the artist is. I could go on and on but now is not the time to write a book. I would like to hear others talk about the qualities of life in America pre 1963.
I am only 62 but I had a taste of what America was... (show quote)


murder was not common like today ,then the libs started doing away with the death penalty and now it seems if you dont like someones looks just k**l them.drugs were almost unheard of we haerd of it being in the big city like n o but not in the country.the last demorat i v**ed for was jfk and i have regretted it ever sence

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Mar 4, 2014 13:18:18   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
Retired669 wrote:
I'm the same age as you and I'll never forget sitting in school when it was announced JFK had been shot and later died. I also remember many of the things you mentioned. We use to fish everyday we could after school. I was watching TV when Oswald was shot and when Bobby Kennedy was shot. I will never forget both of those along with MLK being shot. Someone or more likely a group of people wanted history changed by k*****g all 3. The same thing happened with 9/11.

I remember Barry Goldwater in 1964 preaching the dems are going to take your guns away if they are elected. Here we are 50 years later and I still have my guns along with 99.99% of the people. I also remember the dems saying Goldwater would use nukes if he was elected.

I certainly don't want to go back to that time in our history and a majority of people don't want to either. :thumbup:
I'm the same age as you and I'll never forget sitt... (show quote)


"I certainly don't want to go back to that time in our history and a majority of people don't want to either."

Why not, it was a heck of a lot better then it is now. We didn't have to worry about the dollar collapsing like we do now. We didn't have to worry about a President that was ruling by decree rather then a semblance or lawful order and respect. JFK had a lot of faults, but he also had a lot of good ideas. Unfortunately he was shot for his ideas and we started down this road thanks in a large part to Johnson.

We didn't have a******ns on demand and k*****g babies left and right. What is it, almost 58 million now? I'll bet you are just thrilled at that number. They called us baby k**lers when we came back from VN, but you have proven who the real baby k**lers are.

We did have problems back then and thanks to the progressives they have continued to this day. You got off to a good start in 1913 and have been escalating things ever since. You have taken religion out of school and almost every part of our lives. I don't care that you don't believe, that is a freedom you have and I would never think of changing that. You do not however have a right to take it away from me and the millions of people that do believe. I really don't care what your thoughts are on religion. I have mine and so do millions of others. We also have thoughts about you and your non beliefs, but we mostly keep that to ourselves. We never force things on you, but you love to force your ideas on us.

We didn't have to worry about gays getting in our face ever time we turned around, but thanks to your gay President, we now have that problem. You force your life style on us and don't care how we feel about it. In fact you don't care about anything except that if it feels good, do it. You don't care if it is legal, just get your courts to change the laws. You don't care if it is moral, just change morality. In fact, you don't care about anything as long as you are happy. The fact that you are bringing the rest of the country down to your level only encourages you to go to farther extremes.

In short, you make me sick. You don't care what you do to this country and that shows in everything you do. The only thing you care about is you. Nothing else matters. Well, I hope you are happy, because you are the ones that are going to suffer the most in the end.

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Mar 4, 2014 13:18:47   #
typhoon
 
Until I became a libertarian in college I was a JFK democrat. In many ways he was to the right of Reagan when it came to defending liberty. He was deeply h**ed by all the bad guys including the World Banks and it got him k**led. In my opinion having studied him for years he is an American hero.
vernon wrote:
murder was not common like today ,then the libs started doing away with the death penalty and now it seems if you dont like someones looks just k**l them.drugs were almost unheard of we haerd of it being in the big city like n o but not in the country.the last demorat i v**ed for was jfk and i have regretted it ever sence

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Mar 4, 2014 13:27:43   #
bahmer
 
MrEd wrote:
"I certainly don't want to go back to that time in our history and a majority of people don't want to either."

Why not, it was a heck of a lot better then it is now. We didn't have to worry about the dollar collapsing like we do now. We didn't have to worry about a President that was ruling by decree rather then a semblance or lawful order and respect. JFK had a lot of faults, but he also had a lot of good ideas. Unfortunately he was shot for his ideas and we started down this road thanks in a large part to Johnson.

We didn't have a******ns on demand and k*****g babies left and right. What is it, almost 58 million now? I'll bet you are just thrilled at that number. They called us baby k**lers when we came back from VN, but you have proven who the real baby k**lers are.

We did have problems back then and thanks to the progressives they have continued to this day. You got off to a good start in 1913 and have been escalating things ever since. You have taken religion out of school and almost every part of our lives. I don't care that you don't believe, that is a freedom you have and I would never think of changing that. You do not however have a right to take it away from me and the millions of people that do believe. I really don't care what your thoughts are on religion. I have mine and so do millions of others. We also have thoughts about you and your non beliefs, but we mostly keep that to ourselves. We never force things on you, but you love to force your ideas on us.

We didn't have to worry about gays getting in our face ever time we turned around, but thanks to your gay President, we now have that problem. You force your life style on us and don't care how we feel about it. In fact you don't care about anything except that if it feels good, do it. You don't care if it is legal, just get your courts to change the laws. You don't care if it is moral, just change morality. In fact, you don't care about anything as long as you are happy. The fact that you are bringing the rest of the country down to your level only encourages you to go to farther extremes.

In short, you make me sick. You don't care what you do to this country and that shows in everything you do. The only thing you care about is you. Nothing else matters. Well, I hope you are happy, because you are the ones that are going to suffer the most in the end.
"I certainly don't want to go back to that ti... (show quote)


Amen very well said.

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Mar 4, 2014 13:35:37   #
jay-are
 
typhoon wrote:
Until I became a libertarian in college I was a JFK democrat. In many ways he was to the right of Reagan when it came to defending liberty. He was deeply h**ed by all the bad guys including the World Banks and it got him k**led. In my opinion having studied him for years he is an American hero.


JFK was a conservative Republican who infiltrated the Democrat party. The history of his actions when he was in congress prove that he consistently opposed the democrat party on important issues. He prevailed because he had money, the Kennedy name, good looks, and honesty on his side. But the American people will respond to honesty, whichever party it comes from.

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Mar 4, 2014 13:37:40   #
bobgssc
 
typhoon wrote:
People were alive in that you had no idea what was going to come out of their mouths but it was going to be witty, funny or provoke thought.


I agree with most of what you said, but this? I'm pretty sure the KKK was around before 63 and I'm also pretty sure what they said was just as stupid and NOT thought worthy then. When looking at the past, we tend to remember the good things. Remember all the kids with those weird crutches because of Polio? Not everything was better back then.

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Mar 4, 2014 13:39:46   #
jay-are
 
Retired669 wrote:
I'm the same age as you and I'll never forget sitting in school when it was announced JFK had been shot and later died. I also remember many of the things you mentioned. We use to fish everyday we could after school. I was watching TV when Oswald was shot and when Bobby Kennedy was shot. I will never forget both of those along with MLK being shot. Someone or more likely a group of people wanted history changed by k*****g all 3. The same thing happened with 9/11.

I remember Barry Goldwater in 1964 preaching the dems are going to take your guns away if they are elected. Here we are 50 years later and I still have my guns along with 99.99% of the people. I also remember the dems saying Goldwater would use nukes if he was elected.

I certainly don't want to go back to that time in our history and a majority of people don't want to either. :thumbup:
I'm the same age as you and I'll never forget sitt... (show quote)


So far 7 agree with typhoon. You are alone in your disagreement. And one is on the fence. Still think you represent a majority of people?

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Mar 4, 2014 13:43:23   #
bahmer
 
typhoon wrote:
I am only 62 but I had a taste of what America was like before the c**p d'état in 63. People were alive in that you had no idea what was going to come out of their mouths but it was going to be witty, funny or provoke thought. Every other person in my parents generation could play an instrument well. Social interaction was more than showing each other pictures of what you had for dinner. When the President spoke to the citizens it was with respect to all and down to none. Black musicians were the source for the most fascinating music you will ever hear not potty mouth nursery rhyme to a simple beat. In junior high you could obsess over the opposite sex without fear of offending anyone. Food was not as processed and family dinners happened every day. Musical artist earned there way to the top by popular demand not a platinum record deal done at Warner Brothers before anyone even knows who the artist is. I could go on and on but now is not the time to write a book. I would like to hear others talk about the qualities of life in America pre 1963.
I am only 62 but I had a taste of what America was... (show quote)


I was born in 1943 and I agree with you 100% things were simpler and more straight to the point.

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