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Nov 11, 2017 16:22:36   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
badbob85037 wrote:
obama did fail America but he didn't fail his and Soros dream of seeing America brought to her knees. Justice will only return to this nation when he and his administration are on death row.


Good luck!

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Nov 11, 2017 21:25:00   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
Would making the 1% poore
r, make you richer? Don't really get your constant bashing of anyone with money. People rich and not deserving as you think, or not paying their fair share may or may not be gaming the system. Human nature. The problem is the system. The systems main parts are politicians. You don't think poor (what you might consider poor) people game the system? Just saw a hell of an example of that here in Florida with FEMA handing out food vouchers. Within ten minuets many of those vouchers were for sale on the internet. Simple solutions would be term limits and a flat or fair tax. Just my thoughts.
Would making the 1% poore br r, make you richer? D... (show quote)


What I have a problem with is the rich getting richer at the expense of the middle and working class. In today's world one can be a good guy, work really hard and never get ahead. J, I'm sure you understand the different types of income (money) and the different ways they are taxed. Or maybe not.

Debt and taxes make the poor poorer and the rich richer.

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Nov 11, 2017 21:36:48   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
buffalo wrote:
What I have a problem with is the rich getting richer at the expense of the middle and working class. In today's world one can be a good guy, work really hard and never get ahead. J, I'm sure you understand the different types of income (money) and the different ways they are taxed. Or maybe not.

Debt and taxes make the poor poorer and the rich richer.


And the whiners more 'entitled' to the wealthy's money.

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Nov 11, 2017 21:59:59   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
The rich of course pay the majority of Federal Taxes. If you want to argue that their accumulation of wealth is way higher proportionately to what they pay in taxes compared to the middle class I won’t argue. Exactly why all tax bills end up a payoff to someone. These guys are in it for themselves first, no matter what side of the isle they are on. We need term limits and a flatter fairer tax. Unfortunately the very guys that need to do that are the very ones in charge. I understand incomes and taxes. I disagree on taxing investment income the same as earned income because it’s been taxed before. Wouldn’t mind looking at a graduated system though. Investment income taxed at higher rates as wealth increases. Something like that. Never seen any government tax, or tax cut its way out of overwhelming debt. Unfortunately we need to cut the size and scope of the Federal Government.
buffalo wrote:
What I have a problem with is the rich getting richer at the expense of the middle and working class. In today's world one can be a good guy, work really hard and never get ahead. J, I'm sure you understand the different types of income (money) and the different ways they are taxed. Or maybe not.

Debt and taxes make the poor poorer and the rich richer.

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Nov 11, 2017 22:09:19   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
JFlorio wrote:
The rich of course pay the majority of Federal Taxes. If you want to argue that their accumulation of wealth is way higher proportionately to what they pay in taxes compared to the middle class I won’t argue. Exactly why all tax bills end up a payoff to someone. These guys are in it for themselves first, no matter what side of the isle they are on. We need term limits and a flatter fairer tax. Unfortunately the very guys that need to do that are the very ones in charge. I understand incomes and taxes. I disagree on taxing investment income the same as earned income because it’s been taxed before. Wouldn’t mind looking at a graduated system though. Investment income taxed at higher rates as wealth increases. Something like that. Never seen any government tax, or tax cut its way out of overwhelming debt. Unfortunately we need to cut the size and scope of the Federal Government.
The rich of course pay the majority of Federal Tax... (show quote)


The cuts are needed primarily in spending and entitlements.

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Nov 12, 2017 03:17:13   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
buffalo wrote:
What I have a problem with is the rich getting richer at the expense of the middle and working class.
Here We Go
Another F**e Champion Of The Proletariat

No One Has Taken Anything Away From Me
...Except The IRS

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Nov 12, 2017 08:31:52   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
karpenter wrote:
Here We Go
Another F**e Champion Of The Proletariat

No One Has Taken Anything Away From Me
...Except The IRS


Then you really don't get what's been going on. We are on the road not just to a highly unequal society, but to a society of an oligarchy. A society of inherited wealth.

The way that money effects and controls politics is by "donations" which is basically institutionalized corruption, thanks, even more so now, to the SCOTUS ruling that money is "free speech".

Those that believe either wing of the DC chicken, or any of the factions within those wings are going to change anything, or have any interest in change only delude themselves. You can v**e A or B but really all these "debates" only serve as a distraction for the sheople while the entities that pull the strings behind them are the same.

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Nov 12, 2017 09:28:38   #
Radiance3
 
karpenter wrote:
Trump Returning to US with Over $250 Billion in Deals

https://www.westernjournalism.com/trump-returning-to-us-with-over-250-billion-in-deals-china-announces-this-is-truly-a-miracle/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=patriotupdate&utm_campaign=dailypm&utm_content=libertyalliance

On his final day in Beijing, Trump and China’s President Xi Jinping oversaw a ceremony in which corporate giants such as Boeing and Qualcomm signed multibillion-dollar deals

“And I have great respect for you with that because you’re representing China. But it’s too bad that past administrations allowed it to get so far out of kilter. But we’ll make it fair and it’ll be tremendous to both of us.”

“Both the United States and China will have a more prosperous future if we can achieve a level economic playing field. Right now, unfortunately, it is a very one-sided and unfair one. But — but I don’t blame China,” he said.

After all, who can blame a country for being able to take advantage of another country for the benefit of its citizens? I give China great credit,” he said.

Trump did not cite former President Barack Obama by name, but he had him in mind.


No, Kiddies
Trump Hasn't Done A Thing For The Economy
We've Listed Them Endlessly,
And Yet You Still Claim It's Just Obama Policies Finally Kicking In

Actually, It Was Bush's Tarp That Saved The Economy For Obama
He Renewed Bush's Tax Cuts To Stave Of The Double-Dip Recession
Obama's Policies Just Stifled The Recovery
And That Has Been Listed Here Too

Yep, It Becomes More Apparent By The Month What A Failure Obama Was
Just A Side-Walk Community Organizer You V**ed In Off The Street
b Trump Returning to US with Over $250 Billion in... (show quote)


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Yep, after Obama bowed to countries during his first visit in 2009, kissed their asses, and hands, apologized for the sins of America, he said, he left marks of ridicule from these countries who never respected the US as a result. Thus NK zoomed making advance nuclear arsenals, Iran empowered to manufacture nuclear arsenal after US funded $150 billion plus another cash f $1.75 billion t***sported to Iran at the Middle of the night. Released the 5 Taliban terror leaders from GITMO in exchange to the t*****r Bergdhal who walked out from his group to join the Taliban. Then Obama and Rice called Bergdhal hero. Kissed Bergdhal's parents when presented to the WH garden to the people, after the father praised allah in Arabic.

After abandoning Ambassador Stevens and 3 other support staff in B******i, allowed him to die in the hands of Al Qaeda, as he LIED at the UN podium blamed Mohammad video for their deaths. Along with Susan Rice who announced for 5 weeks, blamed Mohammad video for the deaths of our heroes in B******i.

The US national debts for all presidents combined, Obama doubled that amount to almost $20 trillion when Obama left. he spent $2 billion dollars during his first vacation and visit to India and Pakistan in 2010. He spent hundreds of millions of dollars on his other vacations during the 8-year reign. Then bankrupted the US with that debt of almost $20 trillion.

Obama allowed NK advance their nuclear arsenal, because countries did not respect the US under him.
Obama lied several times to the American people to achieve his ambitions. Eg. ObamaCare, B******i, Bergdhal, etc.

Obama divided the people of the US, black and white. Where b****s r**ted, and caused violence like B*M, A****A, CAIR, RADICAL ISLAM, i*****l a***ns, and multiplied tens of millions of Muslims including ISIS who embedded among them.

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Nov 12, 2017 11:35:11   #
1935boxer
 
same old crap still blaming those 1%ers.

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Nov 12, 2017 14:19:46   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
1935boxer wrote:
same old crap still blaming those 1%ers.


So you think the economic rewards of society are distributed solely on merit and that people get exactly what they deserve? That is why you think the rich are the best people and the poor are the worst, eh? Is that your "moral" justification for economic and tax policies that favor the rich?

Between 2000 and 2014, the number of children living in poverty in America increased by 41 percent, and now includes nearly one-quarter of our kids. Did the American children suddenly get lazier and they deserve to live in poverty? So programs such as Food Stamps or Medicaid or free school lunches are just rewarding bad behavior?

You need to open your eyes...

A study of 25 wealth advisers, across eight years found that the consistency of their performance was zero. The results resembled what you would expect from a dice-rolling contest, not a game of sk**l. Those who received the biggest bonuses had simply got lucky. My grandfather (.a wealthy self-made man) always said with a little bit of luck, s**t will do for brains

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Nov 12, 2017 14:29:35   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
buffalo wrote:
So you think the economic rewards of society are distributed solely on merit and that people get exactly what they deserve? That is why you think the rich are the best people and the poor are the worst, eh? Is that your "moral" justification for economic and tax policies that favor the rich?

Between 2000 and 2014, the number of children living in poverty in America increased by 41 percent, and now includes nearly one-quarter of our kids. Did the American children suddenly get lazier and they deserve to live in poverty? So programs such as Food Stamps or Medicaid or free school lunches are just rewarding bad behavior?

You need to open your eyes...
So you think the economic rewards of society are d... (show quote)


Obammy kept raising the bar so more people could be classified as living in poverty and collect more 'entitlements'. That assures more Dem v**es. He also removed Clintons rule that all able-bodied people should work for their entitlements.

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Nov 12, 2017 14:41:13   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
Obammy kept raising the bar so more people could be classified as living in poverty and collect more 'entitlements'. That assures more Dem v**es. He also removed Clintons rule that all able-bodied people should work for their entitlements.


Also, during obammy's reign, 95% of the income gains went to the wealthiest 1%.

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Nov 12, 2017 14:48:01   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
buffalo wrote:
Also, during obammy's reign, 95% of the income gains went to the wealthiest 1%.


The remaining 5% went to Obammy, the unions, and his other cronies. You conveniently forget that the top 10% pay 70.6% of all income taxes while 47% pay no income taxes at all.

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Nov 12, 2017 15:03:55   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
buffalo wrote:
Also, during obammy's reign, 95% of the income gains went to the wealthiest 1%.


Now because of people like you Obama lives the life of the ultra 1% and laughed at how easily you were manipulated .

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Nov 12, 2017 15:18:52   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
buffalo wrote:
Did the American children suddenly get lazier and they deserve to live in poverty?
Casual Sex, Single Motherhood And Broken Homes
....Liberal Policies

Quote:
Food Stamps or Medicaid or free school lunches are just rewarding bad behavior
More Like Incentives For Teen Pregnancy
Throw In Some Section 8
Got Their Own Place To Play

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