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Nov 18, 2017 13:27:43   #
Big Bass
 
rumitoid wrote:
Low grade uranium, not weapon's grade as the premiere liars of the Right state or insinuate. Plus it cannot be exported--even if that mine was ever mined. Donations to Clinton Foundation by a Russian are not donations to the Clinton's; they were never touched or used that money for themselves (unlike the Trump Foundation, who used, and admitted to improperly using donations, for a tRump portait). The Russian who donated the money had left Uranium One three years prior. Clinton was one of nine people to okay the sale, which was unanimous. There is zero evidence of any effort to persuade or coerce the other eight to approve the sale by Hillary. The matter had been thoroughly investigated by the FBI and no wrong-doing of any nature was found. Classic sleight-of-hand by the GOP.
Low grade uranium, not weapon's grade as the premi... (show quote)

Boy, oh boy, oh boy! I hope you haven't bet the farm on the veracity of this one, hemo.

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Nov 18, 2017 14:22:48   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
straightUp wrote:
Linda, it's good to see that you at least take the time to research. We might not agree on issues, but I can see by your last few posts that you are looking for facts. It's encouraging.

I made the point earlier to PoppaG that the reason why there are more oil spills related to train accidents is because there are more rails that pipes. That really was an oversimplified response, but since I'm talking to someone who looks for facts I feel I can probably increase the level of detail without causing confusion.

The notion that pipelines are safer comes from industry reports that measure the damage in terms of deaths and property damage, but when measuring the actual volume of spilled oil, the Congressional Research Service https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43390.pdf says pipelines are actually worse. The reason for this difference, is that pipelines tend to route through less populated areas. People NEVER accept proposals for a pipeline through their back yard. So when oil is t***sported to or through densely populated areas, they use trains. So, even small oil spills cause more property damage in urban regions than a huge oil spill in some place we obviously don't care about, like an Indian reservation.

So a more accurate statement for me to make would be that trains carry more oil through high-risk areas than pipelines do.

But that doesn't mean a giant oil spill from a pipe in the country won't eventually cause as much damage as a small spill in a city... One of the concerns the "water protectors" at Standing Rock had was the damage oil spills can have on their water tables over a long period. This type of damage isn't immediately calculated by insurance companies reacting to an oil spill in a populated area. It's the kind of damage that dimwitted people like Trump find easy to dismiss as "theory" or a "h**x".
Linda, it's good to see that you at least take the... (show quote)


Given my occupation I’m always researching something.. I also enjoy the learning curve it offers..

It is because we differ we can feed off each other for more knowledge of the topic....I enjoy that with you..

Interesting comment you make here: pipelines are safer comes from industry reports that measure the damage in terms of deaths and property damage.. Is this not the one thing we hear all the time in rebuttal, how dangerous pipelines are, yet, that doesn’t appear so between the two articles read here??

You might be stretching it by zeroing in on your comment for effect about Indian Reservations.. I know what your implying there but it falls short of fact..

I do not disagree with you about the risk factor of trains carrying oil from One location to another and ask is it not prudent to put it underground to travel through those less populated places achieving the same end result without that risk to life and community property??

Relative to polluting our lands and water this is a genuine concern but as we also know spills large or not when identified (that 5 hour window it took maybe because it is out of reach) of this most recent event is the responsibility of the Keystone people to clean it up.. Completely, not just some.. Not that that offers justification but there are ways to correct these spills that by attrition take place.. Better to be out there in the middle of nowhere for sure but still not good anyway we look at it..
Likewise we must recognize with each alternative energy massed, it too has its own draw backs relative to land and water etc.. If not it than the skies when the birds hit the turbines and get k**led or the expense in comparison to oil, gas, etc..
We will never have a perfect anything in any energy alternative just as we don’t with oil for as long as it’s been around..

I support alternative energy and say it’s needed and coming but it’s not there just yet.. Not by a long shot when we consider population and geography Of say just the country...

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Nov 18, 2017 14:32:26   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Big Bass wrote:
Boy, oh boy, oh boy! I hope you haven't bet the farm on the veracity of this one, hemo.


When I read what he said my first reaction was wth??? In between laughing ... He can sure come up with some off the wall twists though.. Just gotta laugh..

That money paid into the foundation was never touched or used for charity.. Had he said that he would be right..

Millions paid into their racketeering foundation selling off our country yes..

I also remember their tax return that showed they had given out 5.7 million to others , now, Bless their no hearts wasn’t that sweet???

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Nov 18, 2017 14:47:20   #
Big Bass
 
lindajoy wrote:
When I read what he said my first reaction was wth??? In between laughing ... He can sure come up with some off the wall twists though.. Just gotta laugh..

That money paid into the foundation was never touched or used for charity.. Had he said that he would be right..

Millions paid into their racketeering foundation selling off our country yes..

I also remember their tax return that showed they had given out 5.7 million to others , now, Bless their no hearts wasn’t that sweet???
When I read what he said my first reaction was wth... (show quote)

I even wonder about that disbursement. How sweet? Hmm. Probably a loan with usurous interest rates.

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Nov 18, 2017 15:04:16   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Big Bass wrote:
I even wonder about that disbursement. How sweet? Hmm. Probably a loan with usurous interest rates.


You mean a front charity they send to themselves, lolololl

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Nov 18, 2017 15:26:21   #
Big Bass
 
lindajoy wrote:
You mean a front charity they send to themselves, lolololl

Wouldn't surprise me.
Hellary's record could hardly be called "stellar."

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Nov 18, 2017 15:40:24   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
lindajoy wrote:
Yes, well, while we may know, some may not be as bright as you so a little background was in order...

LOL... I didn't know I was so much "brighter". I just thought it was a matter of being informed.

lindajoy wrote:

Norwegian are smart people and I think their divestment is thinking of the future no doubt.. I also hope they achieve that divestment although their money may not carry them for it.. They have what somewhere around 52-55 million people in total, in comparison to other more populated countries.. And a lot less territory to cover as well...

Not sure what your point is. Yes, they are a smaller country. So?

lindajoy wrote:

As for the Scandinavian countries they do provide things like a generous social safety net and universal healthcare, along with an extensive welfare state which is not the same thing as a socialistic state though is it??

By that I'm guessing you mean one socialist engine doesn't make the whole state socialist. Of course. But again, I'm not sure what your point is. All developed countries in the world today are social democracies including the U.S.A.

lindajoy wrote:

Perhaps they are a social democracy, a system in which the government aims to promote the public welfare through heavy taxation and spending, within the framework of a capitalist economy....This is what the Scandinavians practice isn’t not?? The best of both worlds it seems..???

I agree. Though I'm laughing at your choice of words... "HEAVY taxation and SPENDING"... It's like you can't help but telegraph your disdain for the "socialist" part of the system. I'm laughing because it's really not any heavier than the money we spend on the same things as market consumers when the government bows out. In fact, there's been an endless supply of reports over the years that all say the same thing about the fact that Americans spend more money on private healthcare than Europeans do on socialized healthcare AND we get less out of the deal.

lindajoy wrote:

As for your closing I’ll copy it but insert Democrats in its place.. See how that works??

Looks like you're going to tell me...

lindajoy wrote:

Do you know which party has had more control of this country for the last 100 years??
Over the past 100 years the Democratic party has held power nearly twice as long as the Republicans in both the Senate and the House. And the Democratic party has had control of the White House and the two Houses of Congress for 35 years, compared to 16 years for the Republican party over the last 100 years..
kinda shoots to hell your opinion that the Republicans are the ones to abuse the v**ers..
br Do you know which party has had more control o... (show quote)

Not really. For most of those 100 years, e******y has risen, civil rights improved, workers rights improved, education was made more accessible, social mobility increased and America reached it's peak of greatness. But thanks for explaining why. ;)

lindajoy wrote:

Just using all the promises Dems have given the b****s every e******n why are the b****s still not flourishing??? Just exactly what have the Dems done to help the b****s???

They gave them civil rights. What more do you think government is supposed to do? I thought you conservatives were all about a limited government role? The black community is dealing with cultural issues that governments aren't designed to fix.

lindajoy wrote:

Abuse, yep, it’s there alright..

Yes, it is

lindajoy wrote:

Neither supposed party give a damn about the citizens, you must know the s by now..

LOL - "Neither party gives a damn but I'm v****g Republican 'cause the Democrats don't give a damn!".

But seriously, what I know (or at least what I think) is that they DO give a damn... (if they didn't, they wouldn't get reelected), but they can't satisfy everyone because the people are so divided on every issue that comes up, so for every citizen they help, there is another one infuriated that "they don't give a damn".

I also think you're putting too much emphasis on party. I actually went back and edited my closing statement before you I saw your response. I took "Republican" out because on second thought I knew that was quite accurate. In it's place, I put "I'll let you guess who you think that is". I was curious to see how you fill in the blank. Of course I figured you would assume I meant Republicans anyway and this would become a partisan argument. Well, I did say Republicans before the edit, but I am really talking about a cultural divide not a political one.

Political parties are t***sient and d******e. One might say even fickle. I often refer to the big switch during the Nixon campaigns when the Republican Party switched from the liberals they were to the conservatives the Democrats used to be. The progressive movement which was originally championed by Republicans straddled both parties throughout what we now refer to as the Progressive Era. And even today we can clearly see a fracture within the GOP along cultural lines, with isolationists like Gingrich advocating a completely different view from the neoconservatives like Bush.

So when I talk about the Great American Irony... (my phrase for our example of when half the v**ers in a country pledge their allegiance to the people who abuse them.) I am referring to a cultural condition, not a political one because as you say, neither side of the political fence seems to care. The difference is whether a culture promotes awareness or loyalty.

...I don't think it's the culture that promotes awareness that delivers v**es to the abusive.

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Nov 18, 2017 16:50:41   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Morgan wrote:
Na, think we're done here.


Thank goodness. No more idiocies from you.

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Nov 18, 2017 17:02:54   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
straightUp wrote:
LOL - "Neither party gives a damn but I'm v****g Republican 'cause the Democrats don't give a damn!".


~~~~No , no, I v**e that one I Believe aligns to my beliefs, party means jack~ sh** to me and I mean that.. Yes, I lean right but believe it or not I’m a softy for those things like food for the truly needy..Housing for the truly needed, care for our elders, Our vets taken care of at wh**ever the cost, humanitarian aid of countries in need, not brininging everyone under the sun ☀️ Into our country to care for for the rest of our lives..

But seriously, what I know (or at least what I think) is that they DO give a damn... (if they didn't, they wouldn't get reelected), but they can't satisfy everyone because the people are so divided on every issue that comes up, so for every citizen they help, there is another one infuriated that "they don't give a damn".

~~~I wish I had your conviction here.. I know based on what doesn’t happen no matter which party it is.. They care simply for themself, elitism and a one World order they govern.. Rude awaking from other World leaders that want that one world they control.. Which is also why that movement hasn’t been achieved.. They will have to k**l off each other until the last one standing wins..

I also think you're putting too much emphasis on party. I actually went back and edited my closing statement before you I saw your response. I took "Republican" out because on second thought I knew that was quite accurate. In it's place, I put "I'll let you guess who you think that is". I was curious to see how you fill in the blank. Of course I figured you would assume I meant Republicans anyway and this would become a partisan argument. Well, I did say Republicans before the edit, but I am really talking about a cultural divide not a political one.

~~~~No partisan argument from me Straight, it achieves nothing which was what I meant when I said, change republican to democrat and the very same holds true to what you said...
Cultural devide is absolutely true!! Now who do we “ blame” for that?? Is it society? Is it cultural indifference that prohibits harmony amongst others ?? I hope your not implying r****m ?? That’s been beat to death and fosters nothing but more devide and h**e.. I am truly s**k of it and sorry maintain BO fostered the worst level of intended devide and r****m over any other in office.. I can not call him president, tried but could not and yes it’s because I had no respect for him and what I believe of him...

Political parties are t***sient and d******e. One might say even fickle. I often refer to the big switch during the Nixon campaigns when the Republican Party switched from the liberals they were to the conservatives the Democrats used to be. The progressive movement which was originally championed by Republicans straddled both parties throughout what we now refer to as the Progressive Era. And even today we can clearly see a fracture within the GOP along cultural lines, with isolationists like Gingrich advocating a completely different view from the neoconservatives like Bush.

RINOs thru and thru in this time period..
The changing of ideology is a must if we are to further the future..
The republicans did change and I feel for the worst as I do about the Dems, progressive dems, Democrat republican, wh**ever..

The fracture is therefor both parties.. More so this moment for the Dems that are chasing their tail, dodging each other and wondering whose going down..

So when I talk about the Great American Irony... (my phrase for our example of when half the v**ers in a country pledge their allegiance to the people who abuse them.) I am referring to a cultural condition, not a political one because as you say, neither side of the political fence seems to care. The difference is whether a culture promotes awareness or what amounts to political loyalty.

~~~ No, a culture does not promote awareness of political loyalty .. it can not given the d******e nature of the parties to confuse, demean and hold power of the cultural makeup.. Even in choosing their targets it starts there and nothing is allowed to develope in that cultural challenge.. It is molded by the dishonest, by the greedy and eradicates the culture itself..
It's not the culture that promotes awareness that delivers v**es to the abusive... That my friend is the culture that promotes political loyalty.
LOL - "Neither party gives a damn but I'm v**... (show quote)


Oops my reply is inside yours..click quote reply..

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Nov 18, 2017 17:27:41   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Straight up replies:

LOL... I didn't know I was so much "brighter". I just thought it was a matter of being informed.

~~~~ I was being Facetious, jokingly of course.. Perhaps I read condensending in tone and replied as such...😳

lindajoy wrote:

Norwegian are smart people and I think their divestment is thinking of the future no doubt.. I also hope they achieve that divestment although their money may not carry them for it.. They have what somewhere around 52-55 million people in total, in comparison to other more populated countries.. And a lot less territory to cover as well...

Not sure what your point is. Yes, they are a smaller country. So?

~~~Easier to manage their devesting with less people or land mass to deal with , and you knew what I meant...
lindajoy wrote:

As for the Scandinavian countries they do provide things like a generous social safety net and universal healthcare, along with an extensive welfare state which is not the same thing as a socialistic state though is it??

By that I'm guessing you mean one socialist engine doesn't make the whole state socialist. Of course. But again, I'm not sure what your point is. All developed countries in the world today are social democracies including the U.S.A.

~~I asked you the question because I wanted to see how you viewed their political makeup..
lindajoy wrote:

Perhaps they are a social democracy, a system in which the government aims to promote the public welfare through heavy taxation and spending, within the framework of a capitalist economy....This is what the Scandinavians practice isn’t not?? The best of both worlds it seems..???

I agree. Though I'm laughing at your choice of words... "HEAVY taxation and SPENDING"... It's like you can't help but telegraph your disdain for the "socialist" part of the system. I'm laughing because it's really not any heavier than the money we spend on the same things as market consumers when the government bows out. In fact, there's been an endless supply of reports over the years that all say the same thing about the fact that Americans spend more money on private healthcare than Europeans do on socialized healthcare AND we get less out of the deal.


I’m glad I could make you laugh~~ humor is always good.. You are right I can not absorb the socialist part nor do I believe this country is any such animal..

We do spend exhorbant amounts on healthcare and now we’ll be sending even more if the push to Medicare, single payer plan can’t be sold..
Some European countries do well in healthcare.. My brother lived in Switzerland and raved about it to include doctors still coming to your home to see you on occasion..

lindajoy wrote:

As for your closing I’ll copy it but insert Democrats in its place.. See how that works??

Looks like you're going to tell me...

~~~No need you understand..

lindajoy wrote:
br Do you know which party has had more control o... (show quote)

Not really. For most of those 100 years, e******y has risen, civil rights improved, workers rights improved, education was made more accessible, social mobility increased and America reached it's peak of greatness. But thanks for explaining why. ;)

~~Got to tell you Touché in your response..I’ll let it sit right there..

lindajoy wrote:

Just using all the promises Dems have given the b****s every e******n why are the b****s still not flourishing??? Just exactly what have the Dems done to help the b****s???

They gave them civil rights. What more do you think government is supposed to do? I thought you conservatives were all about a limited government role? The black community is dealing with cultural issues that governments aren't designed to fix.


They didn’t give them a thing but oppression and pittance to buy their v**es..
Cultural indifference after all this time?? No, I disagree.. Other minorities ~ethnics if you will came here a lot later in the game and flourish.. Why haven’t the b****s???

lindajoy wrote:

Abuse, yep, it’s there alright..

Yes, it is

lindajoy wrote:

Neither supposed party give a damn about the citizens, you must know the s by now..

Finally to the end... Thank You I now need coffee...

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Nov 18, 2017 17:36:44   #
Morgan
 
lindajoy wrote:
What tax deductions are you referring to?? Your understanding of how foreign taxes work does not include the mandatory 35% taxation the US has on all foreign profits, income etc does it??

Yes Corporations pay taxes in other countries, qualified taxes to the US is different than what foreign taxation is about too. Not all money paid in foreign trade revenue is qualified here either..

People want to believe that U.S. companies pay little or nothing in taxes on their foreign earnings I know.. We hear it enough that’s for sure..Some politicians suggest implementing a “minimum tax” on corporate foreign earnings to prevent tax avoidance too.. Unfortunately, legislation that would impose these types of taxes on multinational corporations is based on a misunderstanding of how U.S. international tax rules works..To do something like that would be an illegal double taxation of the US to impose and why it has not been put forth..

The U.S. has what is often called a “worldwide” system of taxation that requires American businesses to pay the 35 percent federal corporate tax rate on their income no matter where it is earned—domestically or abroad...
So I’ll ask or say why should they then be subject to taxation here if nothing they are doing elsewhere involves the US other than to be anamed home base corporation here??
They are taxed on the products they sell here and they do pay tariff taxes to trade right?? Remember Trump saying if they don’t want to come home and increase Corporate American Jobs etc then they will pay a lot more in tariffs etc.. The companies heard that loud and clear I suspect...

First, companies operating in foreign countries pay income taxes to the country in which those profits were earned...

When those profits are brought back to the United States, an additional tax equal to the difference between the U.S. tax rate of 35 percent and what they paid to the foreign country is collected by the IRS. Between the two nations, the U.S. firm will have paid a total of $35, or 35 percent, in taxes on its foreign profits and it has to, no exception..

To arrive at a 35 percent effective tax rate on corporate foreign earnings, the IRS affords U.S. corporations a foreign tax credit against U.S. taxes equal to the corporate taxes they paid to foreign governments... When corporations repatriate their foreign earnings, they are required to report how much income they earned in each country they operated in and how much they paid those countries in corporate income taxes. The credit U.S. corporations receive is equal to the corporate income taxes paid to foreign governments on foreign earned income that is returned to the U.S... So I’m a little confused in what you are using as a bases to say companies aren’t paying here?? They surely are on top of what they paid in other countries remembering all they paid in tha foreign country is not automatically offset.. it is qualified by specific qualifiers here to be offset..
What tax deductions are you referring to?? Your un... (show quote)




Maybe you should read my posts before you reply back to me. I think I was very clear on what deductions.

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Nov 18, 2017 17:43:22   #
Morgan
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
Thank goodness. No more idiocies from you.


You can count on it, talking to you is like speaking with someone in a wind tunnel.

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Nov 18, 2017 19:18:21   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Morgan wrote:
Maybe you should read my posts before you reply back to me. I think I was very clear on what deductions.


I did read your posts.. I asked because I wanted to know if you factored in the mandatory 35% taxation the US mandates and were considering the qualifiers that established that offset of foreign profits.. It is not based on just what the corporation paid but the US qualifies that apply..

I’ll move forward and ask if you support this in Trumps tax plan?? It is after all addressing your comments as well... Then again it may not be as lucrative as believed and the only ones to be enriched are stock/share holders??

One of the proposals in the Republican tax plan set out last week — a bid to get American corporations to “repatriate” their untaxed corporate overseas profits — has support both in Congress and in the Trump administration. As much as $2.6 trillion in such profits sits in offshore subsidiaries of United States corporations.

Under the plan, the government would declare a tax holiday — a rate as low as 10 percent — to encourage the United States companies operating overseas to repatriate their overseas profits. Congress and the president see getting this money back to the United States as a way to goose job and wage growth in the United States and to fill some of the revenue holes that are expected as a result of the plan’s other sweeping tax cuts...

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Nov 18, 2017 19:18:24   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
lindajoy wrote:

~~~Easier to manage their devesting with less people or land mass to deal with , and you knew what I meant...

I suspected that's what you meant but I didn't want to make any undue assumptions. You see, when you're talking about a sovereign fund, it really doesn't matter how much land a country has or how big it's population is... Seriously, that's like blaming the low returns on your 401K on the square footage of your house and how many pets you have.
;)

lindajoy wrote:

~~I asked you the question because I wanted to see how you viewed their political makeup..

Huh... well, I think you're description (social democracy) was quite sufficient.

lindajoy wrote:

I’m glad I could make you laugh~~ humor is always good.. You are right I can not absorb the socialist part nor do I believe this country is any such animal..

You don't think we have socialist engines in our system?

lindajoy wrote:

We do spend exhorbant amounts on healthcare and now we’ll be sending even more if the push to Medicare, single payer plan can’t be sold..

I totally agree.

lindajoy wrote:

Some European countries do well in healthcare.. My brother lived in Switzerland and raved about it to include doctors still coming to your home to see you on occasion..

Actually, ALL the social democracies in Europe do better in healthcare than we do and their systems are all socialized. The stark contrast is one of those elephants in the room that takes tremendous effort to ignore.

lindajoy wrote:

straightUp wrote:
For most of those 100 years, e******y has risen, civil rights improved, workers rights improved, education was made more accessible, social mobility increased and America reached it's peak of greatness. But thanks for explaining why. ;)

~~Got to tell you Touché in your response..I’ll let it sit right there..

Nice form linda. :)

lindajoy wrote:

lindajoy wrote:
Just using all the promises Dems have given the b****s every e******n why are the b****s still not flourishing??? Just exactly what have the Dems done to help the b****s???

straightUp wrote:
They gave them civil rights. What more do you think government is supposed to do? I thought you conservatives were all about a limited government role? The black community is dealing with cultural issues that governments aren't designed to fix.

lindajoy wrote:
They didn’t give them a thing but oppression and pittance to buy their v**es..
br lindajoy wrote: br Just using all the promise... (show quote)

Are you forgetting that before the Civil Rights movement they didn't actually have any v**es to offer any pittance for?

lindajoy wrote:

Cultural indifference after all this time?? No, I disagree..

I didn't say cultural indifference... In fact, I said cultural issues... so kinda of the opposite thing there linda ;)

lindajoy wrote:

Other minorities ~ethnics if you will came here a lot later in the game and flourish.. Why haven’t the b****s???

That's what I've been trying to tell ya... they're dealing with cultural issues.

Look, as far as I am concerned, the federal government has adjusted it's laws to give black people the same RIGHTS as white people... That doesn't mean any economic advantages, or retributions. It just means they live by the same laws. That is 100% of what the government is responsible for and it was done under the Johnson Administration... Which in itself... ;) Was the liberal take over of the Democratic Party.

back to the point... So that b****s and w****s live by the same rules.

back to the liberal take over... So the broad Democratic base in the Solid South, took unkindly to Johnson going all soft on "nig ahs... (pardon my french), they jumped ship, fancied themselves the "Dixiecrats" and caused enough raucous that sly fox Barry Goldwater decides to incorporate them in... The Southern Strategy. The liberal Republicans were like... WTF? So THEY jump over to the Democratic Party. Power has swung from one side to the other several times since then but the constant curve is the tendency to polarize. We are more polarized now that we have been since the Johnson Administration.

back to the original point... in the current setting, with racial discrimination removed from law... I'll just borrow a phrase from the right-wing lexicon... "It's not the job of the government." There is nothing in the Constitution that says anything about special exceptions for black people.

and now, my new point... :)
The cultural issues that I was referring to are deep, multi-generational issues. Applying federal or even state politics to it is like trying to make a dead face look good with make up. They need to grow, they need time and they need e******y. And ya know what? It's scary. I've had nights when the kids were babies and I wanted to get them out, somewhere better. But I never lost sight of the big picture. Of course it's frightening at times... that's how freedom feels.

lindajoy wrote:

Neither supposed party give a damn about the citizens, you must know the s by now..

Finally to the end... Thank You I now need coffee...

:)
coffee is our friend.

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Nov 18, 2017 20:32:52   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
straightUp wrote:
:)
coffee is our friend.


Egads straight!! Your taxing my brain here... I know what you were saying and SWF do consider size of population and land... Land is an asset and people working paying into their growth ratio are considered..

Some countries worry that foreign investment by SWFs raises national security concerns because the purpose of the investment might be to secure control of strategically important industries (land held)for political rather than financial gains.. That capitalism front and center, right??
Or perhaps my subconscious assumption of the Socialistic ways.. 😳

What brings me to knowing anything about these SWF was that meeting held sometime back by the majority SWFs who came together and formed a temporary International Working Group of Sovereign Funds, or something like that...They drafted common global international standards regarding t***sparency, independence, and accountability in the way that SWFs operate.. T***sparency??? I wonder~~??

They formed their own coalition in essence and from that wound up taking control of the countries that participate by some significant control now.. Just another bank calling themselves something else ?? I think there is credence to the concern..

And now I must go to dinner.. back later..

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