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Don't Be Fooled: Dems Still Don't Have a Winning Message
Nov 9, 2017 14:42:22   #
fullspinzoo
 
Dems are giddy with joy after winning in a blue state like Virginia. (I guess anything is good when you have a Party on 'life support'.) https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2017/11/09/don039t_be_fooled_dems_still_don039t_have_winning_message_426075.html Another article along the same line of thought: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/359527-despite-wins-dems-face-an-identity-crisis

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Nov 9, 2017 14:53:06   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
VA and NJ were never in our camp to begin with. I think, though, that the Dem wins there might motivate both sides to go to the polls. If you have apathetic friends, get on their asses is the best I can say.

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Nov 9, 2017 18:06:30   #
DJRich Loc: Western Pa
 
fat christie, republican, got elected TWICE, so losing NJ is major blow to trump





BigMike wrote:
VA and NJ were never in our camp to begin with. I think, though, that the Dem wins there might motivate both sides to go to the polls. If you have apathetic friends, get on their asses is the best I can say.

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Nov 9, 2017 19:46:10   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
Christie ran as an Republican . That does not make him one in this environment .

DJRich wrote:
fat christie, republican, got elected TWICE, so losing NJ is major blow to trump

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Nov 9, 2017 20:34:54   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Republicans will lose the House and Senate in 2018 if they do not back President Trump's agenda:
Cut corporate taxes to 20% to bring back 1/3rd of US industry that fled abroad.

Millions of people who fell off the Labor Board's statistics years ago are still without jobs. We have 1500 homeless people in my home town picking through the garbage and camping out under bridges, cold and hungry. It is pathetic. They need jobs now!

These stupid people in Washington are so detached from we, the people. If we don't cut business taxes today, which are the highest in the world, we will continue to see a mass exodus of industry and jobs and greater poverty. The Democrats will push socialism upon the masses, virtually the end of human sovereignty, home ownership, and creative work and human dignity.

If I hear "tax the rich" one more time, (and trust me, I live a very modest lifestyle), I will seize to speak to these liberal dingbats and start howling at the moon.

Tell Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to pass tax relief for all American workers and all American businesses, no delays.
Do it now!

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/2/1629046/-Call-your-senator-Phone-numbers-for-every-office-of-every-U-S-senator

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Nov 9, 2017 20:39:30   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
DJRich wrote:
fat christie, republican, got elected TWICE, so losing NJ is major blow to trump


If you want to think so, who am I to talk you out of it? I don't think it's that big a deal and Christie was so-so.

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Nov 9, 2017 20:44:15   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Republicans will lose the House and Senate in 2018 if they do not back President Trump's agenda:
Cut corporate taxes to 20% to bring back 1/3rd of US industry that fled abroad.

Millions of people who fell off the Labor Board's statistics years ago are still without jobs. We have 1500 homeless people in my home town picking through the garbage and camping out under bridges, cold and hungry. It is pathetic. They need jobs now!

These stupid people in Washington are so detached from we, the people. If we don't cut business taxes today, which are the highest in the world, we will continue to see a mass exodus of industry and jobs and greater poverty. The Democrats will push socialism upon the masses, virtually the end of human sovereignty, home ownership, and creative work and human dignity.

If I hear "tax the rich" one more time, (and trust me, I live a very modest lifestyle), I will seize to speak to these liberal dingbats and start howling at the moon.

Tell Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to pass tax relief for all American workers and all American businesses, no delays.
Do it now!

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/2/1629046/-Call-your-senator-Phone-numbers-for-every-office-of-every-U-S-senator
Republicans will lose the House and Senate in 2018... (show quote)


I think the Republican leadership would rather lose power than lose membership to their Country Club (how's that for a double entendre?). Bottom line. They are entitled and superior. Trump isn't elite. Up and coming Republicans are expendable. All for the sake of globalization. I wouldn't put it past them to throw a few seats and be in the minority.

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Nov 9, 2017 23:01:18   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
BigMike wrote:
I think the Republican leadership would rather lose power than lose membership to their Country Club (how's that for a double entendre?). Bottom line. They are entitled and superior. Trump isn't elite. Up and coming Republicans are expendable. All for the sake of globalization. I wouldn't put it past them to throw a few seats and be in the minority.


Trump's base must carry the day and hold Mitch McConnell to task. Every call, every letter of protest is worth 10,000 voices. Opening up interstate commerce and overturning the individual mandate to buy Obamacare will go a long way to destroy this vampire. this can be attached as a Budget Reconciliation with the Tax cuts for all workers and businesses. All this must go through congress to Trump's desk right now.

Pass the word, talk it up. Shout it atop the mountains with a megaphone.

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Nov 10, 2017 00:24:26   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Trump's base must carry the day and hold Mitch McConnell to task. Every call, every letter of protest is worth 10,000 voices. Opening up interstate commerce and overturning the individual mandate to buy Obamacare will go a long way to destroy this vampire. this can be attached as a Budget Reconciliation with the Tax cuts for all workers and businesses. All this must go through congress to Trump's desk right now.

Pass the word, talk it up. Shout it atop the mountains with a megaphone.


I just got a letter from Dean Heller in response to a message I left with his office. Letter comes next. He just lives in the little town in the valley next to the one my little town is in. I'll spell it out. Supporting Trump's policies means supporting Trump!

Why? It isn't Trump. It could be anyone but only Trump seems interested in doing some of what we want. I'm speaking, of course, about those of us who aren't part of the Washington establishment or dependent on it. This group is far more corrupt than I would have imagined...even after two prison terms!

Mr. Heller will get primaried more than likely.

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Nov 10, 2017 03:45:48   #
PeterS
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Dems are giddy with joy after winning in a blue state like Virginia. (I guess anything is good when you have a Party on 'life support'.) https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2017/11/09/don039t_be_fooled_dems_still_don039t_have_winning_message_426075.html Another article along the same line of thought: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/359527-despite-wins-dems-face-an-identity-crisis

Well, when you were expected to lose a win always feels good.

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Nov 10, 2017 03:47:59   #
PeterS
 
BigMike wrote:
I think the Republican leadership would rather lose power than lose membership to their Country Club (how's that for a double entendre?). Bottom line. They are entitled and superior. Trump isn't elite. Up and coming Republicans are expendable. All for the sake of globalization. I wouldn't put it past them to throw a few seats and be in the minority.

Someone who lives in a golden tower isn't elite? You can be funny sometimes Mike you really can...

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Nov 10, 2017 06:50:48   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
BigMike wrote:
I just got a letter from Dean Heller in response to a message I left with his office. Letter comes next. He just lives in the little town in the valley next to the one my little town is in. I'll spell it out. Supporting Trump's policies means supporting Trump!

Why? It isn't Trump. It could be anyone but only Trump seems interested in doing some of what we want. I'm speaking, of course, about those of us who aren't part of the Washington establishment or dependent on it. This group is far more corrupt than I would have imagined...even after two prison terms!

Mr. Heller will get primaried more than likely.
I just got a letter from Dean Heller in response t... (show quote)


You have every right to be worried for losing Republican seats, they not wanting to follow Trump's campaign promises. Take a look at how the Tax reform bill got mangled in the Senate. I favors big business but not the other 80% of our economy:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/09/senate-tax-plan-keeps-much-higher-rate-on-small-businesses-lower-rate-for-top-earners/
Senate Republicans put out their own tax overhaul proposal Thursday that differs in significant ways from the House tax plan.

The Senate plan: the higher tax rate for business pass-throughs and self employed professionals remains above 30%, way above the international average, while Mitch McConnell and his Republican cronies are reducing corporate taxes to 20%. Why favor the galloping g*******ts but stifle true competition at home? The real job creators, some 28 million small and medium sized business entities, virtually 80% of the workforce and tax base, are still deliberately handicapped against growth and competition at home and abroad. We will still see a mass exodus of medium sized industry and jobs moving offshore if the Senate does not pass a flat tax cut for all industry across the board.

The House has a much better plan with greater tax reduction for all American businesses. Steve Forbes Flat Tax plan would eliminate all this favoritism and cronyism. There are just too many politicians on both sides of the isle who fear the rise of poor people and our private property ownership through free competitive markets. We need to hear from Herman Caine and Bobby Jindal advocating for small businesses and the rights of minority entrepreneurs.

Senate retains 7 tax brackets, compared to House's 4 tax brackets. There should be no tax brackets. We don't want government to take the billionaires money any more than we want the government to take the small and medium sized businesses money away. We want to redistribute the customers on a fair playing field. Doctors, plumbers, authors, artists, musicians, carpenters, roofers, nannies, restaurants, cleaners, accountants, and hair dressers will be taxed the highest rates, stifling job creation and growth under the Senate and Mitch McConnell's "tax reduction" plan. It is the growth of our government that is unsustainable. Call these boys up and give them a piece of your mind.

We need our President Trump at home right now to rally the masses.

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Nov 10, 2017 15:04:20   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
PeterS wrote:
Someone who lives in a golden tower isn't elite? You can be funny sometimes Mike you really can...


"Golden Tower"?

It's just a building. Why do you call it a Golden Tower? Is that what it is to you? I wonder why. If you had a golden tower would you be elite?

No, Pete. Having a golden tower or a private jet doesn't entitle one to be among the elite I refer to. It helps, for sure, but it doesn't help Trump.

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Nov 10, 2017 15:09:17   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
You have every right to be worried for losing Republican seats, they not wanting to follow Trump's campaign promises. Take a look at how the Tax reform bill got mangled in the Senate. I favors big business but not the other 80% of our economy:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/09/senate-tax-plan-keeps-much-higher-rate-on-small-businesses-lower-rate-for-top-earners/
Senate Republicans put out their own tax overhaul proposal Thursday that differs in significant ways from the House tax plan.

The Senate plan: the higher tax rate for business pass-throughs and self employed professionals remains above 30%, way above the international average, while Mitch McConnell and his Republican cronies are reducing corporate taxes to 20%. Why favor the galloping g*******ts but stifle true competition at home? The real job creators, some 28 million small and medium sized business entities, virtually 80% of the workforce and tax base, are still deliberately handicapped against growth and competition at home and abroad. We will still see a mass exodus of medium sized industry and jobs moving offshore if the Senate does not pass a flat tax cut for all industry across the board.

The House has a much better plan with greater tax reduction for all American businesses. Steve Forbes Flat Tax plan would eliminate all this favoritism and cronyism. There are just too many politicians on both sides of the isle who fear the rise of poor people and our private property ownership through free competitive markets. We need to hear from Herman Caine and Bobby Jindal advocating for small businesses and the rights of minority entrepreneurs.

Senate retains 7 tax brackets, compared to House's 4 tax brackets. There should be no tax brackets. We don't want government to take the billionaires money any more than we want the government to take the small and medium sized businesses money away. We want to redistribute the customers on a fair playing field. Doctors, plumbers, authors, artists, musicians, carpenters, roofers, nannies, restaurants, cleaners, accountants, and hair dressers will be taxed the highest rates, stifling job creation and growth under the Senate and Mitch McConnell's "tax reduction" plan. It is the growth of our government that is unsustainable. Call these boys up and give them a piece of your mind.

We need our President Trump at home right now to rally the masses.
You have every right to be worried for losing Repu... (show quote)


The Establishment Republican Senate "leadership" would rather be in the minority than lose their seats. Plain and simple. We have to get rid of these people.

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