Doc110 Loc: York PA

Builders unearth 'ancient shipyard of China's Columbus'
Zheng He, China's most famous maritime explorer, and his "Treasure Fleet" plied the oceans during the early 15th century. Experts estimate that a construction site in Nanjing, Jiangsu province, where hundreds of shipbuilding tools have been unearthed, contains the remains of a shipyard that built vessels for one of China's greatest navigators, Zheng He

Tom Phillips
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/11597149/Builders-unearth-ancient-shipyard-of-Chinas-Columbus.html

Construction workers in Nanjing have unearthed what experts believe could be an ancient shipyard that supplied vessels to a legendary explorer known as "China's Columbus". The Longjiang Shipyard helped build the fleet of Zheng He, a eunuch admiral whose epic voyages in the early 15th century made him China's most celebrated maritime voyager.

The admiral's "Treasure Fleet" – a gigantic navy with junks that had up to nine masts and were sometimes 400ft long – carried cargos of porcelain, silk and tea as far afield as Africa until the emperor pulled the plug on China's maritime ambitions following Zheng's death.
"It was a unique armada in the history of China – and the world – not to be surpassed until the invasion fleets of World War I sailed the seas," Louise Levathes wrote in When China Ruled the Seas, a book on the period.

Zheng He's armada was partly built at the Longjiang Shipyard in Nanjing, China's then capital, around 160 miles west of Shanghai. At its peak its docks were home to an army of between 20 and 30,000 shipbuilders who came from as far afield as Hunan and Guangdong provinces, according to Ms Levathes.

A full size replica of Zheng He's treasure ship at the site of the shipyard where original ship was built in Nanjing (Alamy)
However, the Yangtze River shipyard was lost under Nanjing's urban sprawl as it swelled into today's city of nearly four million residents. That began to change in September last year when a local antiques collector got word that workers on a riverside building site had unearthed and then sold what they thought was a large door.

Wang Shiqing, the collector, tracked the door down and discovered it was actually the rudder of an "ancient ship".
Subsequent excavations in the same area uncovered what are believed to be iron anchors and shipbuilding tools such as axes, stone hammer, nails and knives. Items unearthed at the construction site in Nanjing "When I first saw these shipbuilding tools I realised that this was not your average archaeological site," Mr Wang told Nanjing's Jinling Evening Post. "It is very likely to be an ancient shipyard."

Speaking to The Telegraph on Monday, Mr Wang said: "I am 80 per cent sure that this is the site of the Longjiang Shipyard but we still need to wait for the results of its excavation." Zheng He was born in what is today Yunnan province in 1371. He rose to prominence under the Yongle emperor, the Ming Dynasty's third ruler, and made seven naval expeditions into the Indian Ocean with his 27,000-sailor team between 1405 and his death in 1433.

A controversial 2002 book by a British historian claimed that the Chinese admiral had discovered the Americas more than 70 years before Columbus. Despite his exploits, Zheng He was largely forgotten until just over a decade ago when Beijing began to revive his story as an example of China's peaceful interaction with its neighbours.

Items unearthed at the construction site in Nanjing China has also used the admiral's adventures to promote renewed attempts to extend its reach over the seas by building a powerful "blue water navy".

Zhao Zhigang, a Nanjing-based maritime expert, told the Jinling Evening Post the recent discovery was "very likely" to be the Longjiang Shipyard.Wang Shiqing said that although the shipyard's existence had been widely documented in Ming Dynasty literature no trace of it had ever been found.

If the find was confirmed, authorities "should build a museum above the original site to protect and display these relics", he said.

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

How much more of our world history has been scrubbed out. All nations should release their libraries to the world, especially the Vatican.

Doc110 Loc: York PA

Peewee,

"Religion is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing is incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." –Groucho Marx
Ok I switched "Politics" for "Religion." But I'm sure you get the message. . . .

Peewee, Read away, your hearts delight, The Vatican resources are all at your fingertips and monitor. The Vatican URL links. (See Below)

Hummm, Ignorance to basic knowledge and facts, is blissful thinking ? . . .


The Vatican is an open source library to all. Although there are thousands of manuscripts to be scanned they are progressing in this endeavor.

1. Vatican main page URL link
http://w2.vatican.va/content/vatican/en.html

2. Web Archive
http://www.vatican.va/latest/latest_en.htm

3. Vatican Library
https://www.vatlib.it/home.php?ling=eng&res=1280x1024

4. Papal Archive
http://asv.vatican.va/content/archiviosegretovaticano/en.html

5. Resource Library
http://www.vatican.va/archive/index.htm


6. Vatican Internet Sites
http://www.vatican.va/siti_va/index_va_en.htm

7. Vatican Museum
http://www.museivaticani.va/content/museivaticani/en.html

8. Take a Virtual Tour
http://www.vatican.va/various/basiliche/index_en.html

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

Thanks Doc, I appreciate it... I don't want to read what the popes or church has to say, I want any world history they have, but there isn't a topic or search feature for those things. Do you know how I can access those things?

Doc110 Loc: York PA

Peewee,

Quite the historical and religious sceptic. Arn't we ?

There is so much history, Catholic traditions, archives, library's and there is a separate library for the Pope archives.

So you don't have to read about the Pope's.

But that's your prerogative and what fancy's your peccadilloes, so be it, It's a free country.

All totaled there are so many categories to choose from.

Peewee, Are you saying the Vatican is hiding artifacts and is hiding ancient history and world history ?

Do you have factual proof ?

Or are you giving Supposition's, Innuendo's, Exaggeration's of your own personal emotional belief's, hypocritical t***h's, empty rhetoric devoid of real factual substance and opinions ?

Sounds like another Conspiracy theorist, . . . You probably read Dan Browns Hollywood thriller "The Da Vinci Code."

So now your an expert in that Conspiracy theorist field.


To access the vatican files, its called research, research, research, and not speculative Conspiracy hyperbole theory's . . . .

Here is an article for you to read About Dan Brown, Author new book. . . . I summarize the article below.

11/03/2017 An Open Letter to Author “The Da Vinci Code,” Dan Brown New Book "Origin" Sparks Dialogue. Michael Brown challenges famous author to practice what he preaches about 'dialogue'
http://www.wnd.com/2017/11/an-open-letter-to-dan-brown/
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-117601-1.html

Dan Brown engages into biblically and historically events central thesis is false.

His new book, he's calling for dialogue between creationists and evolutionists.

At the same time, you state that historically, “God does not survive science,” perhaps unaware that, to this day, many scientific discoveries are made by people of great faith and perhaps unaware that religious faith worldwide is growing, not declining.

And, while claiming that religion has an important part to play in the world, you have stated clearly that you think eventually, religious faith will disappear, which you see as a positive, not a negative.

Of course, you’re quite free to have these views and express them.

My concern is that you seem to pick the worst of those you differ with compared to the best of those you agree with. In other words, when it comes to the so-called “brights.”

At the same time, I genuinely wonder what kind of dialogue you’re looking for and, more importantly, if you’re open to the possibility of the existence of a benevolent, omnipotent Creator.

So, rather than revile you as a heretic and an anti-Christ figure, I reach out to you as a fellow lover of t***h, inviting you to have some genuine interaction.

Why not lead the way?

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

I do not support or am I a fan of Dan Brown in any way, he is a gifted fiction writer. I do love anything about ancient history and even more if it's related to the Bible.


I'm not against the Catholic Church's people but I'm becoming more suspicious of governments and some groups that have uncommon power and money worldwide, the older and more I read. The release of the JFK files didn't help me to have more confidence.

For example, the royals of England own a lot of the Earth's land mass. Not the people of England, just the royals. The Catholic Church owns a lot of property all over the world but not the catholic people. A good number of the early church's buildings are built atop of pagan sites. That's the kind of history I'm interested in.

You might laugh at me but I'm a big fan of people like Steve Quayle, Tom Horn, L. A. Marzulli, Gary Wayne, Zev Garcia, etc... they bring excitement to the scriptures. I want to witness the blind seeing, the deaf hearing and demons being cast out by "normal people" before I die.

I detest the name and claim it types and Benny Hinn f**e preachers who fleece the flock.

There isn't any doubt a very advanced ancient civilization existed long before us and I want to know more about it. As Sherlock Holmes often said... something is a foot Watson. I'm just curious by nature and I want to see Jesus return and toss all the bad guys into the pit and finally see Him face to face. Now, what's wrong with that. And you know the Vatican has a lot of that history locked away...:)

I also do not believe in evolution, adaptation, yes! Can you imagine an evolution guy digging up a bulldogs and a afgans skulls... and saying they evolved.

I'm just a Joe Blue Collar type and the only PHD I have is as a "Professional Posthole Digger". I trust God, all others pay cash. I will always continue to search out t***h.

I did read on the Crux site, dated 1 Nov 2017, that a top Vatican Theologian, Capuchin Father Thomas Weinandy, current Vatican Int'l Theologian Commission thinks Pope Francis may be the false Satanic prophet and is very close to committing the unpardonable sin.

Just saying... something's afoot Watson.

Thanks Doc, I will read/research some of the links and see if they lead to anything I'm curious about.