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Nov 3, 2017 07:31:13   #
silvereagle
 
Everything is Trumps fault.Remember when that other guy was in office? When something major came up where was he? Oh I know on vacation or a golf course somewhere.

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Nov 3, 2017 07:37:29   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
silvereagle wrote:
Everything is Trumps fault.Remember when that other guy was in office? When something major came up where was he? Oh I know on vacation or a golf course somewhere.
Then Off To A Fundraiser In Nevada Or Blaming Bush

He Promised To 'Fix' The Bush Years
Didn't He ??

He Said He Was The Man For The Job...
Instead We Got This:



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Nov 3, 2017 07:49:47   #
Sassy Lass
 
karpenter wrote:
Then Off To A Fundraiser In Nevada Or Blaming Bush

He Promised To 'Fix' The Bush Years
Didn't He ??

He Said He Was The Man For The Job...
Instead We Got This:


Makes me want to upchuck 😟

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Nov 3, 2017 08:03:02   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Sassy Lass wrote:
Don't you wish! Trump has more respect for the military than that lying jerk Obammy by far. When did you ever hear Obammy admit he was wrong. Such a creepy narcissist.


You're being too kind.

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Nov 3, 2017 09:30:53   #
Lonewolf
 
The republican held congress turned the requests down



Randy131 wrote:
This is exactly the same type of fighting that our military has gone through in Vietnam, Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan, as they have always fought terrorists.

This is nothing like B******i, where Ambassador Stevens begged for more security personnel in an area that had become so dangerous that all our allies had left, leaving only the American contingency in B******i, and Obama and Hillary Clinton turned all of Ambassodr Stevens' requests down.

Then when they were finally attacked with a planned assault on their compound, they begged for help, but none was sent, and those nearby who wanted to go and defend them were denied permission to do so, then after 13 hours of fierce fighting, Ambassador Stevens and his protege, along with two former US special forces members working for the CIA, who disobeyed their orders to "stand down" and not to help the Americans that were under attacked, were k**led.

Then to cover-up their malfeasance, Obama and Hillary Clinton lied continuously for months about the incident, what it actually was, and the reason for it, to the American people and the families of the dead, just so Obama could win re-e******n, because the incident also proved Obama and his administration had been lying about the defeat of Al Queda to the American people.

So many constant and continuous lies by Obama and his administration, that nobody could keep up with them all. And now you're claiming this battle by our military personnel with terrorist in Niger is the same as the Americans that were abandoned by Obama and Hillary Clinton in B******i, to die under a terrorist planned attack that went on for 13 hours, and then lied about to the American people and the world as to what really happened there, in order to cover-up Obama's and Hillary Clinton's obvious malfeasance in office, by not giving our ambassador the security personnel that he begged for, for more than 6 months prior to that planned terrorist attack? Get real!
This is exactly the same type of fighting that our... (show quote)

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Nov 3, 2017 09:40:20   #
boatbob2
 
This has NOTHING to do with Donald,WHO made the decision,to send these 4 men,to their deaths,their deaths,are on THAT decision makers head.

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Nov 3, 2017 09:55:22   #
vernon
 
DJRich wrote:
Pentagon will not comment and the spector of "cover-up" is suddenly becoming much more likely.

But trump has quickly left the country, hoping this will die down before he returns


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-details-ambush-niger-soldiers-dead/



D J just keep on blathering on and on.All the while Trumo is getting things done creating jobs ,and removing all those regulations that k**l growth,bring industry back to the U S and much more.

So just keep up the good work.

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Nov 3, 2017 10:00:42   #
Lonewolf
 
He's not doing any of that he's a loser


uote=vernon]D J just keep on blathering on and on.All the while Trumo is getting things done creating jobs ,and removing all those regulations that k**l growth,bring industry back to the U S and much more.

So just keep up the good work.[/quote]

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Nov 3, 2017 10:06:54   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Randy131 wrote:
This is exactly the same type of fighting that our military has gone through in Vietnam, Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan, as they have always fought terrorists.

This is nothing like B******i, where Ambassador Stevens begged for more security personnel in an area that had become so dangerous that all our allies had left, leaving only the American contingency in B******i, and Obama and Hillary Clinton turned all of Ambassodr Stevens' requests down.

Then when they were finally attacked with a planned assault on their compound, they begged for help, but none was sent, and those nearby who wanted to go and defend them were denied permission to do so, then after 13 hours of fierce fighting, Ambassador Stevens and his protege, along with two former US special forces members working for the CIA, who disobeyed their orders to "stand down" and not to help the Americans that were under attacked, were k**led.

Then to cover-up their malfeasance, Obama and Hillary Clinton lied continuously for months about the incident, what it actually was, and the reason for it, to the American people and the families of the dead, just so Obama could win re-e******n, because the incident also proved Obama and his administration had been lying about the defeat of Al Queda to the American people.

So many constant and continuous lies by Obama and his administration, that nobody could keep up with them all. And now you're claiming this battle by our military personnel with terrorist in Niger is the same as the Americans that were abandoned by Obama and Hillary Clinton in B******i, to die under a terrorist planned attack that went on for 13 hours, and then lied about to the American people and the world as to what really happened there, in order to cover-up Obama's and Hillary Clinton's obvious malfeasance in office, by not giving our ambassador the security personnel that he begged for, for more than 6 months prior to that planned terrorist attack? Get real!
This is exactly the same type of fighting that our... (show quote)




Little reality check for the right once more.. as usual.



You’ll never guess who comes off as a hero of the Republican-drafted House B******i committee’s majority report: President Obama.

Within 90 minutes of the Sept. 11, 2012, surprise attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound that k**led Ambassador J.  Christopher Stevens and an aide, the report tells us, Obama had told his secretary of defense and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to do everything possible, implicitly including using military force, to protect Americans.

These were “very clear directions,” according to Peter Roskam (R-Ill.), one of Obama’s harshest critics on the panel.

How different from the version of the president’s conduct propounded on right-wing talk radio and TV in the aftermath: that he and his aides coolly watched live video of the mayhem in B******i, supplied by drones flying overhead, but declined to order a rescue mission.

Not only does this new Republican report debunk that smear, but it actually shifts blame from Obama to “a rusty bureaucratic process not in keeping with the gravity and urgency of the events happening on the ground.” A second attack, on a separate CIA annex, in which security contractors Tyrone S. Woods and Glen Doherty died, was already over by the time U.S. military assets started moving toward Libya. And even then, the forces headed to the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, not B******i.

To be sure, the report strains to put the most negative construction on these previously reported delays, insinuating but not asserting that Woods and Doherty might have been saved but for the low alert status of U.S. forces overseas or the dithering of officials in Washington. And it’s true: Special units in Europe did not meet their own standards for rapid deployment to Tripoli.


After two years of investigation, however, such tendentious implications are all that remain of the conspiracy theory that the Obama administration told rescuers to “stand down” or otherwise deliberately abandoned Americans on the ground.

And for even that residual implication to have merit, you must believe military force could have been brought to bear between 8:39 p.m. Washington time on Sept. 11 — when Defense Secretary Leon Panetta formally t***smitted Obama’s order to Pentagon authorities — and 11:15 p.m., when the mortar attack that k**led Woods and Doherty began.

You would also have to be highly confident that such a response would have done more good than harm, given a battlefield that the report describes as “a worst case scenario of circumstances that would test the military’s preparedness and ability to respond.”

The fog of war was thick that night, as the report acknowledges: “The Committee was also struck by the sheer number of government officials involved . . . who did not even know there was a separate U.S. facility in B******i referred to as the ‘Annex’ or where the Annex was.” Of course they didn’t know: It was a secret CIA base, reportedly for covertly monitoring loose weaponry such as surface-to-air missiles. They don’t list those bases in the real estate section.

The report makes much of State Department waffling over whether a Spain-based Marine rescue unit should wear uniforms or enter Libyan territory in mufti. Easy to ridicule in hindsight, this concern was perfectly legitimate, given the risk of an international incident or misunderstanding amid the chaos. There sure would have been calls for a congressional investigation if some crazy m*****a took uniformed Marines for invaders and ambushed them.

Same goes for other Monday-morning quarterbacking: Maybe an armed drone would have helped — if the operator didn’t mistake the Libyan m*****a that evacuated the CIA annex for a hostile force and blow it away. Maybe Special Operations forces could have reinforced the annex — if they didn’t get k**led in crossfire approaching a darkened compound whose physical contours were known to only a handful of intelligence personnel.

Perhaps Obama would be getting less criticism now if he had kept up nonstop meetings, prodding his advisers to do more after he gave his initial order — or perhaps he would be facing charges of micromanagement and refusing to “let the military do its job.”


Painful as it is to admit, in B******i, the U.S. government, for all its military power, was at the mercy of terrorists who enjoyed every home-field advantage. Of course, it might never have come to that if Obama hadn’t helped o*******w Libya’s dictator to begin with, or if he’d done a better job stabilizing the place and providing security to U.S. diplomats after Moammar Gaddafi was gone.

Those criticisms are valid, and familiar — but fall into the category of misjudgment and policy error, like the mistake President George W. Bush committed by invading Iraq in the belief it had weapons of mass destruction.

When American foreign policy fails, partisans hunt for policymakers’ sinister motives. What we really need to investigate are their good intentions.

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Nov 3, 2017 10:15:53   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
vernon wrote:
D J just keep on blathering on and on.All the while Trumo is getting things done creating jobs ,and removing all those regulations that k**l growth,bring industry back to the U S and much more.

So just keep up the good work.


Unemployment best in 16 years 11 months.
Economy 3% beating expectations of 2.5% best in 12 years.
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth

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Nov 3, 2017 10:16:46   #
Sassy Lass
 
permafrost wrote:
Little reality check for the right once more.. as usual.



You’ll never guess who comes off as a hero of the Republican-drafted House B******i committee’s majority report: President Obama.

Within 90 minutes of the Sept. 11, 2012, surprise attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound that k**led Ambassador J.  Christopher Stevens and an aide, the report tells us, Obama had told his secretary of defense and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to do everything possible, implicitly including using military force, to protect Americans.

These were “very clear directions,” according to Peter Roskam (R-Ill.), one of Obama’s harshest critics on the panel.

How different from the version of the president’s conduct propounded on right-wing talk radio and TV in the aftermath: that he and his aides coolly watched live video of the mayhem in B******i, supplied by drones flying overhead, but declined to order a rescue mission.

Not only does this new Republican report debunk that smear, but it actually shifts blame from Obama to “a rusty bureaucratic process not in keeping with the gravity and urgency of the events happening on the ground.” A second attack, on a separate CIA annex, in which security contractors Tyrone S. Woods and Glen Doherty died, was already over by the time U.S. military assets started moving toward Libya. And even then, the forces headed to the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, not B******i.

To be sure, the report strains to put the most negative construction on these previously reported delays, insinuating but not asserting that Woods and Doherty might have been saved but for the low alert status of U.S. forces overseas or the dithering of officials in Washington. And it’s true: Special units in Europe did not meet their own standards for rapid deployment to Tripoli.


After two years of investigation, however, such tendentious implications are all that remain of the conspiracy theory that the Obama administration told rescuers to “stand down” or otherwise deliberately abandoned Americans on the ground.

And for even that residual implication to have merit, you must believe military force could have been brought to bear between 8:39 p.m. Washington time on Sept. 11 — when Defense Secretary Leon Panetta formally t***smitted Obama’s order to Pentagon authorities — and 11:15 p.m., when the mortar attack that k**led Woods and Doherty began.

You would also have to be highly confident that such a response would have done more good than harm, given a battlefield that the report describes as “a worst case scenario of circumstances that would test the military’s preparedness and ability to respond.”

The fog of war was thick that night, as the report acknowledges: “The Committee was also struck by the sheer number of government officials involved . . . who did not even know there was a separate U.S. facility in B******i referred to as the ‘Annex’ or where the Annex was.” Of course they didn’t know: It was a secret CIA base, reportedly for covertly monitoring loose weaponry such as surface-to-air missiles. They don’t list those bases in the real estate section.

The report makes much of State Department waffling over whether a Spain-based Marine rescue unit should wear uniforms or enter Libyan territory in mufti. Easy to ridicule in hindsight, this concern was perfectly legitimate, given the risk of an international incident or misunderstanding amid the chaos. There sure would have been calls for a congressional investigation if some crazy m*****a took uniformed Marines for invaders and ambushed them.

Same goes for other Monday-morning quarterbacking: Maybe an armed drone would have helped — if the operator didn’t mistake the Libyan m*****a that evacuated the CIA annex for a hostile force and blow it away. Maybe Special Operations forces could have reinforced the annex — if they didn’t get k**led in crossfire approaching a darkened compound whose physical contours were known to only a handful of intelligence personnel.

Perhaps Obama would be getting less criticism now if he had kept up nonstop meetings, prodding his advisers to do more after he gave his initial order — or perhaps he would be facing charges of micromanagement and refusing to “let the military do its job.”


Painful as it is to admit, in B******i, the U.S. government, for all its military power, was at the mercy of terrorists who enjoyed every home-field advantage. Of course, it might never have come to that if Obama hadn’t helped o*******w Libya’s dictator to begin with, or if he’d done a better job stabilizing the place and providing security to U.S. diplomats after Moammar Gaddafi was gone.

Those criticisms are valid, and familiar — but fall into the category of misjudgment and policy error, like the mistake President George W. Bush committed by invading Iraq in the belief it had weapons of mass destruction.

When American foreign policy fails, partisans hunt for policymakers’ sinister motives. What we really need to investigate are their good intentions.
Little reality check for the right once more.. as ... (show quote)


Your hero, Obama. You wouldn't pick him for your dodgeball team, because he was never a team player and would never have your back. While you're getting the crap knocked out of you, he would be sleeping or playing golf.

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Nov 3, 2017 11:11:32   #
S. Maturin
 
DJRich wrote:
Pentagon will not comment and the spector of "cover-up" is suddenly becoming much more likely.

But trump has quickly left the country, hoping this will die down before he returns


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-details-ambush-niger-soldiers-dead/


That statement: "Looks like this incident is turning into trump's B******i" has to be right up there with the most i***tic thing ever written.

Perhaps Trump needs lying Obama, lying Hillary and that lying black woman 'state dept deputy'- Rice? to speak for him?

Perhaps Trump could resurrect that unfortunate video maker?

Trump's B******i... how incredibly moronic!

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Nov 3, 2017 11:19:07   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Where are all the conspiracy freaks now?

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Nov 3, 2017 11:33:25   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
son of witless wrote:
So far this is nothing like B******i.


THE "ABSOLUTE DESPIRATION", OF THE MENTALLY DERANGED DUMBOCRAP PARTY..........starting to show .....through these desperate postings, by the brain washed Lib's!

If it weren't so "pitifull"....it would be humorous!......{ BUT.....it's just plain "d********g"}

Just ask "Donna Brazile".......She finally has seen the light!..............

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Nov 3, 2017 11:42:34   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
DJRich wrote:
Pentagon will not comment and the spector of "cover-up" is suddenly becoming much more likely.

But trump has quickly left the country, hoping this will die down before he returns


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-details-ambush-niger-soldiers-dead/


djrich: Poppy cock! Try better websites....too many c*******t website like cbsnews h**e Trump!

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