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Oct 26, 2017 03:02:42   #
Chocura750
 
Since everyone values t***sparency let the Russian Dossier be made public, so the people can make up their own minds.

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Oct 26, 2017 04:32:23   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Chocura750 wrote:
Since everyone values t***sparency let the Russian Dossier be made public, so the people can make up their own minds.


You aren't keeping up are you? You must be the last person on the planet to not know. Or a really bad troll in denial.

The dossier has been totally debunked, the evidence has been published showing Hillary funded Fusion GPS to.f**e the info in the dossier and the cat is out of the bags. The collusion is there all right but it turns out that it was between Hillary/Obama and Russia. Hillary received $145 M for her part in advocating for the uranium deal and Bill received $.5M for a one hour speech paid by one of the uranium deal principals.

And who blew the lid off her corruption? Why it was the good old liberal WaPo.

Try to keep up.

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Oct 26, 2017 05:38:35   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
Docadhoc wrote:
You aren't keeping up are you? You must be the last person on the planet to not know. Or a really bad troll in denial.

The dossier has been totally debunked, the evidence has been published showing Hillary funded Fusion GPS to.f**e the info in the dossier and the cat is out of the bags. The collusion is there all right but it turns out that it was between Hillary/Obama and Russia. Hillary received $145 M for her part in advocating for the uranium deal and Bill received $.5M for a one hour speech paid by one of the uranium deal principals.

And who blew the lid off her corruption? Why it was the good old liberal WaPo.

Try to keep up.
You aren't keeping up are you? You must be the la... (show quote)


--i say let the dossier f**e crap public & show them liberals what kind of liars they are let that to be known !!!! trump or anyone else did no wrong & the media is still trying to lie about the trueth or make stuff up to make trump look bad & whoever else i watched CBS news & NBC & they both i think did not tell the t***h seem like they twisted the story around not telling the t***h !!!!! trump need to call it out & get them for it ..if he does not start letting the public know the real t***h he will not be in for another 4 years !!! I WOULD H**E THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oct 26, 2017 05:54:54   #
Kevyn
 
meridianlesilie wrote:
--i say let the dossier f**e crap public & show them liberals what kind of liars they are let that to be known !!!! trump or anyone else did no wrong & the media is still trying to lie about the trueth or make stuff up to make trump look bad & whoever else i watched CBS news & NBC & they both i think did not tell the t***h seem like they twisted the story around not telling the t***h !!!!! trump need to call it out & get them for it ..if he does not start letting the public know the real t***h he will not be in for another 4 years !!! I WOULD H**E THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--i say let the dossier f**e crap public & sho... (show quote)
You should write to the Pumpkinfurher and tell him you are an avid supporter and believe every word he says. And tell him the only way to get the media off his back is absolute t***sparency of his business, taxes and campaign. And that he should demand the same for his entire administration including his family. This would prove once and for all that he was 100% honest and that he and his staff never made political decisions for self benefit. Also that he should release anyone, especially women who he has settled a lawsuit with or employed from their non disclosure agreements. This would allow his former employees and people he contracted to freely speak about what a swell human being he is.

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Oct 26, 2017 07:02:02   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Chocura750 wrote:
Since everyone values t***sparency let the Russian Dossier be made public, so the people can make up their own minds.




why? are you a glutton for seeing the Dem liberal shame in print?.........just read Hillary's book, it has just as much fiction and lies as the Dossier..........probably more.

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Oct 26, 2017 07:20:34   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
I'd too like to read the complete thing and just see how it reads. Your right MSNBS and CBS haven't bothered to tough it, ABC and CNN have but very lightly. What me do now is bits and pieces which reads like bad new for Clinton and Obama. This reverses the tables Democrats will deny this to the very end and will be caught up in lies.



meridianlesilie wrote:
--i say let the dossier f**e crap public & show them liberals what kind of liars they are let that to be known !!!! trump or anyone else did no wrong & the media is still trying to lie about the trueth or make stuff up to make trump look bad & whoever else i watched CBS news & NBC & they both i think did not tell the t***h seem like they twisted the story around not telling the t***h !!!!! trump need to call it out & get them for it ..if he does not start letting the public know the real t***h he will not be in for another 4 years !!! I WOULD H**E THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--i say let the dossier f**e crap public & sho... (show quote)

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Oct 26, 2017 07:23:56   #
Chocura750
 
Looks like the Trump people are afraid of something. If it's all lies then no harm done to Trump. Let it be published.

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Oct 26, 2017 08:57:04   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Chocura750 wrote:
Looks like the Trump people are afraid of something. If it's all lies then no harm done to Trump. Let it be published.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/26/fusion-gps-scandal-clinton-dnc-broke-campaign-finance-law-with-dossier-funding-complaint-says.html

You have been a (willing) victim of Disinformation, a well established Russian technique of lies with just a molecule of t***h behind it. Pay attention to the DISINFORMATION, and think about how the C*******ts used it through John Kerry to turn Vietnam over to the C*******ts. Or spend $10.00 to get the MP3 audiobook by the Russian spy chief, now US citizen, who was in charge of the program. His name is Ion Pacepa and the book is a MUST READ for anyone who does not want to accept the lies of C*******m.

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Oct 26, 2017 09:35:05   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
You may have heard of the scandal brewing in Washington. P**********l advisers cutting sweetheart deals with a foreign power, signing million dollar lobbying contracts with that foreign power, bribes being proffered, and the foreign government gained unprecedented access to government agencies and crucial U.S. natural resources? And what if I told you that foreign power was Russia?

Collusion you say? Perhaps. Collusion with Trump? Nope.

I’m talking about a news story that fittingly is coming back from the dead just before Halloween to scare a lot of Democrats, Bill and Hillary Clinton and Obama administration officials. If you want to take a deeper dive on this issue, read the book "Clinton Cash," by Peter Schweizer, president of the Government Accountability Institute. But here are the basics.

A decade ago, a long-time Clinton Foundation donor, Frank Giustra, sold his uranium company to another firm, Uranium One. With that deal, Uranium One now owned uranium mines in the western U.S., including Wyoming, with about 20 percent of U.S. uranium production capacity, and about ten percent of the actual uranium mined in the U.S.

In 2009, Rosatom, Russia’s nuclear agency, took a 17-percent position in Uranium One. A year later, in the summer of 2010, Rosatom bought majority control of the Uranium One, effectively giving the Russian government-controlled entity proprietary access to one-fifth of the U.S. uranium supply.

Consider this: Russia got its generous foothold in the U.S. uranium market in less time than it takes most 16-year-olds to get a driver’s license.

All of this was taking place after years of what could best be categorized as challenging times in U.S.-Russia relations, as Russia attempted to annex Georgia, intimidated Ukraine and threatened the former-captive nations of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia with short-range nuclear weapons. In short, Russia was doing nothing that would indicate it was a country unwilling to build and potentially use nuclear weapons; the signs of aggression were everywhere.

Now there is a process that the U.S. government uses to ensure that any business deal that may include significant national security issues is given serious, in-depth and careful review and approval. That review is run through the Treasury Department’s Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. (CIFIUS), which includes representatives from Homeland Security, Commerce, Defense, Energy, Justice, and State, as well as the U.S. trade representative and director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, and National Security Council. In addition, the director of national intelligence also has input to the review.

CIFIUS and Congressional reviews k**led deals like the Rosatom purchase before. In 2006 it helped k**l the deal by a Dubai owned company to buy U.S. ports, in part because of the national security risks it presented, and it k**led multiple deals with Chinese companies as well in 2009 and 2010. Yet, between the first week of August 2010 and October 22, 2010, the Obama Administration in expedited time approved the sale of crucial national security resources to Russia by rubber stamping the sale of Uranium One to Rosatom. In 2015, Senator Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, noted the expedited time of the deal's approval in a letter to then Attorney General Loretta Lynch, calling it a deal that was "apparently approved in record speed."

According to most law firms that deal in such matters, CIFIUS reviews involving sensitive national security matters can take up to 120 days. The Rosatom deal took fewer than 90 days. More outrageous: it appears there were no Congressional oversight hearings. Even more outrageous – and puzzling – members of the CIFIUS review board were aware of attempts by Russian government efforts to bribe U.S.-based executives in the U.S. uranium industry at the time this deal was being approved.

This wasn’t simply your typical Clinton back room deal. This was a deal that was reviewed by virtually every senior Obama administration official, many of whom were aware of the Clinton connection, the FBI bribery investigation, and Rosatom’s history.

On October 5th of 2010, Republicans in Congress demanded that the Obama Administration review the Rosatom deal more closely, citing a host of national security issues. For example, one rationale cited by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for approving the deal was that Rosatom did not have an export license to sell or ship the U.S. uranium overseas. But as the Congressional letter noted, Russia’s government-controlled nuclear companies had been sanctioned numerous times for breaking uranium import-export deals, particularly to the countries they aid in building nuclear capacity, such as Iran (yes, Rosatom helped build the Iranian Bushere nuclear plant and trained Iranian nuclear scientists). To paraphrase a pop culture reference Vladamir Putin would appreciate: “An export license? Russia doesn’t need a stinkin’ export license!”

Consider this: Russia got its generous foothold in the U.S. uranium market in less time than it takes most 16-year-olds to get a driver’s license. Russia got its deal moved through the Obama Administration faster than it took the Obama Administration Department of Justice’s Anti-Trust Division to approve any of the mergers of two U.S. companies it reviewed.

How is that possible? Clearly there were motivated folks to get the deal done. One of those was clearly Hillary Clinton, whose family foundation raked in millions from donors with ties to Russia, as well as the uranium industry. Some media outlets have pointed out that the total take for the foundation may have been as “little” as $4 million. But for a cash-starved foundation that can’t even afford to give back $250,000 from serial sex-offender Harvey Weinstein, $4 million is a decent cash reserve.

But let’s be clear, this wasn’t simply your typical Clinton back room deal. This was a deal that was reviewed by virtually every senior Obama administration official, many of whom were aware of the Clinton connection, the FBI bribery investigation, and Rosatom’s history. And let's not forget either: controlling the global supply chain is the very obvious goal of Putin's. To make matters worse, President Barack Obama reviewed the case.

Why would such a deal go through? Sometimes the easiest explanation is the right one: maybe it was nothing more than a payback to Democrat and Clinton donors. When nothing makes sense in Washington D.C., just follow the money.

While this scandal's original focus was on Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation, it goes far deeper into a Democratic administration than anyone within the party wants to admit. Which is perhaps why President Obama seemed less than excited about pushing the Trump-Russia collusion narrative. Perhaps in a rare moment of self-recollection and awareness, he realized that eventually the breadth of this story would end up exactly where we are today, with all eyes looking at Obama's appointees, wondering why they sold America’s national security for the uranium-market equivalent of 30 pieces of silver.

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Oct 26, 2017 17:22:48   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
meridianlesilie wrote:
--i say let the dossier f**e crap public & show them liberals what kind of liars they are let that to be known !!!! trump or anyone else did no wrong & the media is still trying to lie about the trueth or make stuff up to make trump look bad & whoever else i watched CBS news & NBC & they both i think did not tell the t***h seem like they twisted the story around not telling the t***h !!!!! trump need to call it out & get them for it ..if he does not start letting the public know the real t***h he will not be in for another 4 years !!! I WOULD H**E THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--i say let the dossier f**e crap public & sho... (show quote)


Oh I agree. I'd like everyone to see the depth and complexity of the liberal attempts to smear Trump and how they lie to everyone including their own rank and file mindless party members like Chocy.

My problem with him is that he said "let them make up their own minds". That means he is still trying to say there is t***h in the dossier, which is uncatagorically been proven to be a complete concocted and invented lie bought and paid for by Hillary et al.

Chocy's mentality is to perpetuate a proven lie and that is unacceptable.

The only thing the public needs to make up its mind about regarding this i***t Trump--Russian collusion f**e story, is how to punish the lying liberals for what they have done and should any of them ever be allowed to walk free again.

This should absolutely destroy the democratic party because it shows how they lie to achieve their goals and try to control the public mind.

They now have proven that they can never be trusted in office again.

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Oct 26, 2017 17:30:05   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Kevyn wrote:
You should write to the Pumpkinfurher and tell him you are an avid supporter and believe every word he says. And tell him the only way to get the media off his back is absolute t***sparency of his business, taxes and campaign. And that he should demand the same for his entire administration including his family. This would prove once and for all that he was 100% honest and that he and his staff never made political decisions for self benefit. Also that he should release anyone, especially women who he has settled a lawsuit with or employed from their non disclosure agreements. This would allow his former employees and people he contracted to freely speak about what a swell human being he is.
You should write to the Pumpkinfurher and tell him... (show quote)


In the face of you finding out that your own party lied to you and treated you like a fool, you still want to lip off about YOUR POTUS who clearly has now been completely cleared of the i***t accusations YOU helped perpetuate.

YOU CLEARLY are not the sharpest knife in the drawyer.

I guess you enjoy being treated like a gullible mindless moron by your own party.

My dad used to say everyone should do what they're good at.

In your case that means......carry on.

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Oct 26, 2017 17:32:20   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Chocura750 wrote:
Looks like the Trump people are afraid of something. If it's all lies then no harm done to Trump. Let it be published.


Start the petition and I'll sign it.

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Oct 27, 2017 18:53:29   #
moldyoldy
 
no propaganda please wrote:
You may have heard of the scandal brewing in Washington. P**********l advisers cutting sweetheart deals with a foreign power, signing million dollar lobbying contracts with that foreign power, bribes being proffered, and the foreign government gained unprecedented access to government agencies and crucial U.S. natural resources? And what if I told you that foreign power was Russia?

Collusion you say? Perhaps. Collusion with Trump? Nope.

I’m talking about a news story that fittingly is coming back from the dead just before Halloween to scare a lot of Democrats, Bill and Hillary Clinton and Obama administration officials. If you want to take a deeper dive on this issue, read the book "Clinton Cash," by Peter Schweizer, president of the Government Accountability Institute. But here are the basics.

A decade ago, a long-time Clinton Foundation donor, Frank Giustra, sold his uranium company to another firm, Uranium One. With that deal, Uranium One now owned uranium mines in the western U.S., including Wyoming, with about 20 percent of U.S. uranium production capacity, and about ten percent of the actual uranium mined in the U.S.

In 2009, Rosatom, Russia’s nuclear agency, took a 17-percent position in Uranium One. A year later, in the summer of 2010, Rosatom bought majority control of the Uranium One, effectively giving the Russian government-controlled entity proprietary access to one-fifth of the U.S. uranium supply.

Consider this: Russia got its generous foothold in the U.S. uranium market in less time than it takes most 16-year-olds to get a driver’s license.

All of this was taking place after years of what could best be categorized as challenging times in U.S.-Russia relations, as Russia attempted to annex Georgia, intimidated Ukraine and threatened the former-captive nations of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia with short-range nuclear weapons. In short, Russia was doing nothing that would indicate it was a country unwilling to build and potentially use nuclear weapons; the signs of aggression were everywhere.

Now there is a process that the U.S. government uses to ensure that any business deal that may include significant national security issues is given serious, in-depth and careful review and approval. That review is run through the Treasury Department’s Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. (CIFIUS), which includes representatives from Homeland Security, Commerce, Defense, Energy, Justice, and State, as well as the U.S. trade representative and director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, and National Security Council. In addition, the director of national intelligence also has input to the review.

CIFIUS and Congressional reviews k**led deals like the Rosatom purchase before. In 2006 it helped k**l the deal by a Dubai owned company to buy U.S. ports, in part because of the national security risks it presented, and it k**led multiple deals with Chinese companies as well in 2009 and 2010. Yet, between the first week of August 2010 and October 22, 2010, the Obama Administration in expedited time approved the sale of crucial national security resources to Russia by rubber stamping the sale of Uranium One to Rosatom. In 2015, Senator Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, noted the expedited time of the deal's approval in a letter to then Attorney General Loretta Lynch, calling it a deal that was "apparently approved in record speed."

According to most law firms that deal in such matters, CIFIUS reviews involving sensitive national security matters can take up to 120 days. The Rosatom deal took fewer than 90 days. More outrageous: it appears there were no Congressional oversight hearings. Even more outrageous – and puzzling – members of the CIFIUS review board were aware of attempts by Russian government efforts to bribe U.S.-based executives in the U.S. uranium industry at the time this deal was being approved.

This wasn’t simply your typical Clinton back room deal. This was a deal that was reviewed by virtually every senior Obama administration official, many of whom were aware of the Clinton connection, the FBI bribery investigation, and Rosatom’s history.

On October 5th of 2010, Republicans in Congress demanded that the Obama Administration review the Rosatom deal more closely, citing a host of national security issues. For example, one rationale cited by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for approving the deal was that Rosatom did not have an export license to sell or ship the U.S. uranium overseas. But as the Congressional letter noted, Russia’s government-controlled nuclear companies had been sanctioned numerous times for breaking uranium import-export deals, particularly to the countries they aid in building nuclear capacity, such as Iran (yes, Rosatom helped build the Iranian Bushere nuclear plant and trained Iranian nuclear scientists). To paraphrase a pop culture reference Vladamir Putin would appreciate: “An export license? Russia doesn’t need a stinkin’ export license!”

Consider this: Russia got its generous foothold in the U.S. uranium market in less time than it takes most 16-year-olds to get a driver’s license. Russia got its deal moved through the Obama Administration faster than it took the Obama Administration Department of Justice’s Anti-Trust Division to approve any of the mergers of two U.S. companies it reviewed.

How is that possible? Clearly there were motivated folks to get the deal done. One of those was clearly Hillary Clinton, whose family foundation raked in millions from donors with ties to Russia, as well as the uranium industry. Some media outlets have pointed out that the total take for the foundation may have been as “little” as $4 million. But for a cash-starved foundation that can’t even afford to give back $250,000 from serial sex-offender Harvey Weinstein, $4 million is a decent cash reserve.

But let’s be clear, this wasn’t simply your typical Clinton back room deal. This was a deal that was reviewed by virtually every senior Obama administration official, many of whom were aware of the Clinton connection, the FBI bribery investigation, and Rosatom’s history. And let's not forget either: controlling the global supply chain is the very obvious goal of Putin's. To make matters worse, President Barack Obama reviewed the case.

Why would such a deal go through? Sometimes the easiest explanation is the right one: maybe it was nothing more than a payback to Democrat and Clinton donors. When nothing makes sense in Washington D.C., just follow the money.

While this scandal's original focus was on Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation, it goes far deeper into a Democratic administration than anyone within the party wants to admit. Which is perhaps why President Obama seemed less than excited about pushing the Trump-Russia collusion narrative. Perhaps in a rare moment of self-recollection and awareness, he realized that eventually the breadth of this story would end up exactly where we are today, with all eyes looking at Obama's appointees, wondering why they sold America’s national security for the uranium-market equivalent of 30 pieces of silver.
You may have heard of the scandal brewing in Washi... (show quote)


The deal did not even rise to the level of Clinton having to review it.

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Oct 27, 2017 20:34:39   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The deal did not even rise to the level of Clinton having to review it.


Several agencies had to review it and hers was one. She had the authority to question or pass it. She passed it. Public record.
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The deal had to be reviewed by the Committee On Foreign Investments In the United States. That committee is composed of several agencies. The State Department is one of those agencies and Hillary was the head of State at that time. It was Hillary's call to question or pass it. She passed it as I said.

There now will be an investigation to determine why there was no hearing on this matter and why it was approved in time considered to be astoundingly rapid by D.C. standards. This is another issue Hillary is involved in.

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Oct 27, 2017 21:08:23   #
moldyoldy
 
Docadhoc wrote:
Several agencies had to review it and hers was one. She had the authority to question or pass it. She passed it. Public record.
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The deal had to be reviewed by the Committee On Foreign Investments In the United States. That committee is composed of several agencies. The State Department is one of those agencies and Hillary was the head of State at that time. It was Hillary's call to question or pass it. She passed it as I said.

There now will be an investigation to determine why there was no hearing on this matter and why it was approved in time considered to be astoundingly rapid by D.C. standards. This is another issue Hillary is involved in.
Several agencies had to review it and hers was one... (show quote)


Clinton’s role
The State Department was one of nine agencies comprising CFIUS, which vets potential national security impacts of t***sactions where a foreign government gains control of a U.S. company. It was established by Congress in 2007 after the controversy over the planned purchase of seaports by a company in United Arab Emirates. The other agencies were the departments of Treasury, Defense, Justice, Commerce, Energy and Homeland Security, and two White House agencies (Office of the U.S. Trade Representative and Office of Science and Technology Policy).
The CFIUS can approve a deal, but only the president can suspend or stop a t***saction. If the committee can’t come to a consensus, a member can recommend a suspension or prohibition of the deal, and the president makes the call.

Due to confidentiality laws, there are few details made public about the deal or about Clinton’s role in it, factcheck.org found. The Clinton campaign said Clinton herself was not involved in the State Department’s review and did not direct the department to take any position on the sale of Uranium One. Matters of the CFIUS did not rise to the level of the secretary, the campaign said.
Jose Fernandez, then-assistant secretary of state for economic, energy and business affairs, sat on the committee. Fernandez told the Times: “Mrs. Clinton never intervened with me on any CFIUS matter.” Fernandez did not respond to our requests for comment.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/26/the-facts-behind-trumps-repeated-claim-about-hillary-clintons-role-in-the-russian-uranium-deal/

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