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Oct 13, 2017 15:58:09   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
"Red F**g Warning: California Wildfires"


"Red F**g Warning: These California Wildfires Are ‘Among The Most
Destructive Fire Events In US History’ And They Are About To Get Even Worse"
by Michael Snyder

"The wildfires that are roaring through northern California are already “among the most destructive fire events in U.S. history”, and by the time it is all said and done this could be the worst wildfire season in the history of the state. So far, fires have scorched more than 250 square miles, and more than 3,500 homes and businesses have already been destroyed. The official death toll has risen to 21, but that is expected to rise dramatically because over 600 missing persons reports have been filed with authorities. The worst damage has been done in Napa and Sonoma counties, and you can see some deeply troubling photos of the devastation here https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/10/apocalyptic-images-from-the-deadly-fires-in-northern-california.html and here http://www.businessinsider.com/napa-winery-burned-in-fires-2017-10/#we-are-eventually-going-to-rebuild-and-are-hopeful-for-the-future-birebent-told-business-insider-22.

Unfortunately, this crisis is far from over. In fact, the National Weather Service has just issued a pair of “red f**g warnings”: "The weather forecast is not looking good for those living in wine country, and for those firefighters trying to get a handle on the 22 wildfires raging through Northern California, which broke out Sunday and are barely contained more than three days later.

The National Weather Service issued a red f**g warning for the North and East bays starting at 5 p.m. Wednesday and midnight on Thursday respectively. That means winds can gust from 20 mph to 50 mph in the higher elevation areas, fanning the flames down mountains and into the cities."

So as bad as things are at this moment, the t***h is that they are going to get even worse over the next 24 hours. And that is quite sobering to hear, because this is already one of “the most destructive fire events in U.S. history”: "The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said fire activity increased significantly, destroying more buildings and forcing more mandatory evacuations. The wind-whipped, fast moving cluster of blazes ranks among the most destructive fire events in U.S. history. “This is a serious, critical, catastrophic event,” Cal Fire Chief Ken Pimlott said. “It’s pure devastation, and it’s going to take a while to get out and comb through all this.”

Of course this crisis comes on the heels of several other major disasters. In recent weeks our nation has had to deal with Hurricane Harvey, Hurricane Irma and the Las Vegas shooting, and many have pointed out that the U.S. has not seen a series of disastrous events such as this in a very long time. It would be hard to overstate the devastation that we have witnessed in northern California so far. In some areas, it literally looks like a war zone: ‘It looks like a bombing run here,’ said winemaker Joe Nielsen of Santa Rosa’s Donelan Family Wines, speaking to the San Francisco Chronicle. ‘Just chimneys and burnt-out cars and cooked trees.’

What would you do if your home burned to the ground? Perhaps you could use the insurance money to rebuild eventually, but what would you do in the meanwhile?

Everywhere you go in northern California the smell of smoke fills the air. At this point it is so bad that even San Francisco is reporting “the worst air quality ever recorded”: “We are reporting the worst air quality ever recorded for smoke in many parts of the Bay Area,” said Tom Flannigan, spokesman for the Bay Area Air Quality Management District. “This is similar to what you see in Beijing China in bad air days there.” Soot readings in many areas have reached levels considered very unhealthy or hazardous, air quality regulators said.

And the economic damage that is being done by these fires is going to be felt for many, many years to come. As the quote below explains, California accounts for approximately 85 percent of the wine production in the United States, and Napa and Sonoma counties are the heart of the wine industry in the state: "Wine industry experts say that even if a winery’s vineyards remain standing, they face steep challenges as their employees struggle with burned or damaged homes. The region counts wine and tourism as top employers, and many workers who pick grapes or work in hotels may be compelled to relocate after losing everything.

Napa and Sonoma counties are home to around 900 wineries (of 4,600 statewide), with most boutique businesses making higher-end wines. The two counties represent 13% of the state’s output. And the state itself supplies 85% of the nation’s wine production, making it the fourth-largest producer of wines after Italy, France and Spain."

Expect the price of wine to go up substantially in the months ahead, and this is going to be a huge hit for one of the most economically prosperous areas of the state. Many of the facilities that have been destroyed will never be rebuilt, and needless to say the tourism industry in northern California will not be the same for a very long time.

But the true extent of the devastation will not be known until the crisis is over, and it looks like the worst chapters may still be ahead. USA Today is reporting that no rain is in the forecast, and strong winds are going to continue to push wildfires very rapidly across the region: “No rainfall is forecast for ongoing fires in California,” the weather service said. “Strong winds behind the front will bring elevated-to-critical fire weather threats to active fires across northern California today into Thursday.”

Please pray for the people living in northern California. Normally, it is one of the most beautiful areas on the entire planet, but now it is literally being t***sformed into a complete and total nightmare.”
- http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/

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Oct 13, 2017 16:06:35   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
pafret wrote:
"Red F**g Warning: California Wildfires"


"Red F**g Warning: These California Wildfires Are ‘Among The Most
Destructive Fire Events In US History’ And They Are About To Get Even Worse"
by Michael Snyder

"The wildfires that are roaring through northern California are already “among the most destructive fire events in U.S. history”, and by the time it is all said and done this could be the worst wildfire season in the history of the state. So far, fires have scorched more than 250 square miles, and more than 3,500 homes and businesses have already been destroyed. The official death toll has risen to 21, but that is expected to rise dramatically because over 600 missing persons reports have been filed with authorities. The worst damage has been done in Napa and Sonoma counties, and you can see some deeply troubling photos of the devastation here https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/10/apocalyptic-images-from-the-deadly-fires-in-northern-california.html and here http://www.businessinsider.com/napa-winery-burned-in-fires-2017-10/#we-are-eventually-going-to-rebuild-and-are-hopeful-for-the-future-birebent-told-business-insider-22.

Unfortunately, this crisis is far from over. In fact, the National Weather Service has just issued a pair of “red f**g warnings”: "The weather forecast is not looking good for those living in wine country, and for those firefighters trying to get a handle on the 22 wildfires raging through Northern California, which broke out Sunday and are barely contained more than three days later.

The National Weather Service issued a red f**g warning for the North and East bays starting at 5 p.m. Wednesday and midnight on Thursday respectively. That means winds can gust from 20 mph to 50 mph in the higher elevation areas, fanning the flames down mountains and into the cities."

So as bad as things are at this moment, the t***h is that they are going to get even worse over the next 24 hours. And that is quite sobering to hear, because this is already one of “the most destructive fire events in U.S. history”: "The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said fire activity increased significantly, destroying more buildings and forcing more mandatory evacuations. The wind-whipped, fast moving cluster of blazes ranks among the most destructive fire events in U.S. history. “This is a serious, critical, catastrophic event,” Cal Fire Chief Ken Pimlott said. “It’s pure devastation, and it’s going to take a while to get out and comb through all this.”

Of course this crisis comes on the heels of several other major disasters. In recent weeks our nation has had to deal with Hurricane Harvey, Hurricane Irma and the Las Vegas shooting, and many have pointed out that the U.S. has not seen a series of disastrous events such as this in a very long time. It would be hard to overstate the devastation that we have witnessed in northern California so far. In some areas, it literally looks like a war zone: ‘It looks like a bombing run here,’ said winemaker Joe Nielsen of Santa Rosa’s Donelan Family Wines, speaking to the San Francisco Chronicle. ‘Just chimneys and burnt-out cars and cooked trees.’

What would you do if your home burned to the ground? Perhaps you could use the insurance money to rebuild eventually, but what would you do in the meanwhile?

Everywhere you go in northern California the smell of smoke fills the air. At this point it is so bad that even San Francisco is reporting “the worst air quality ever recorded”: “We are reporting the worst air quality ever recorded for smoke in many parts of the Bay Area,” said Tom Flannigan, spokesman for the Bay Area Air Quality Management District. “This is similar to what you see in Beijing China in bad air days there.” Soot readings in many areas have reached levels considered very unhealthy or hazardous, air quality regulators said.

And the economic damage that is being done by these fires is going to be felt for many, many years to come. As the quote below explains, California accounts for approximately 85 percent of the wine production in the United States, and Napa and Sonoma counties are the heart of the wine industry in the state: "Wine industry experts say that even if a winery’s vineyards remain standing, they face steep challenges as their employees struggle with burned or damaged homes. The region counts wine and tourism as top employers, and many workers who pick grapes or work in hotels may be compelled to relocate after losing everything.

Napa and Sonoma counties are home to around 900 wineries (of 4,600 statewide), with most boutique businesses making higher-end wines. The two counties represent 13% of the state’s output. And the state itself supplies 85% of the nation’s wine production, making it the fourth-largest producer of wines after Italy, France and Spain."

Expect the price of wine to go up substantially in the months ahead, and this is going to be a huge hit for one of the most economically prosperous areas of the state. Many of the facilities that have been destroyed will never be rebuilt, and needless to say the tourism industry in northern California will not be the same for a very long time.

But the true extent of the devastation will not be known until the crisis is over, and it looks like the worst chapters may still be ahead. USA Today is reporting that no rain is in the forecast, and strong winds are going to continue to push wildfires very rapidly across the region: “No rainfall is forecast for ongoing fires in California,” the weather service said. “Strong winds behind the front will bring elevated-to-critical fire weather threats to active fires across northern California today into Thursday.”

Please pray for the people living in northern California. Normally, it is one of the most beautiful areas on the entire planet, but now it is literally being t***sformed into a complete and total nightmare.”
- http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/
"Red F**g Warning: California Wildfires"... (show quote)


Thank you for posting. It's pretty gut-wrenching, but it is bringing out the very best in surrounding communities and organizations.

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Oct 13, 2017 17:46:42   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
I found it very odd the other day pafret when MoonBeam Brown came right out and stateed that there were going to be a lot more fires coming. Now one could ASSUME that due to dry weather it could obviously happen, but there were numerous fires that were intentionally started and the perpet*****rs were caught. Just sayin.
Semper Fi




pafret wrote:
"Red F**g Warning: California Wildfires"


"Red F**g Warning: These California Wildfires Are ‘Among The Most
Destructive Fire Events In US History’ And They Are About To Get Even Worse"
by Michael Snyder

"The wildfires that are roaring through northern California are already “among the most destructive fire events in U.S. history”, and by the time it is all said and done this could be the worst wildfire season in the history of the state. So far, fires have scorched more than 250 square miles, and more than 3,500 homes and businesses have already been destroyed. The official death toll has risen to 21, but that is expected to rise dramatically because over 600 missing persons reports have been filed with authorities. The worst damage has been done in Napa and Sonoma counties, and you can see some deeply troubling photos of the devastation here https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/10/apocalyptic-images-from-the-deadly-fires-in-northern-california.html and here http://www.businessinsider.com/napa-winery-burned-in-fires-2017-10/#we-are-eventually-going-to-rebuild-and-are-hopeful-for-the-future-birebent-told-business-insider-22.

Unfortunately, this crisis is far from over. In fact, the National Weather Service has just issued a pair of “red f**g warnings”: "The weather forecast is not looking good for those living in wine country, and for those firefighters trying to get a handle on the 22 wildfires raging through Northern California, which broke out Sunday and are barely contained more than three days later.

The National Weather Service issued a red f**g warning for the North and East bays starting at 5 p.m. Wednesday and midnight on Thursday respectively. That means winds can gust from 20 mph to 50 mph in the higher elevation areas, fanning the flames down mountains and into the cities."

So as bad as things are at this moment, the t***h is that they are going to get even worse over the next 24 hours. And that is quite sobering to hear, because this is already one of “the most destructive fire events in U.S. history”: "The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said fire activity increased significantly, destroying more buildings and forcing more mandatory evacuations. The wind-whipped, fast moving cluster of blazes ranks among the most destructive fire events in U.S. history. “This is a serious, critical, catastrophic event,” Cal Fire Chief Ken Pimlott said. “It’s pure devastation, and it’s going to take a while to get out and comb through all this.”

Of course this crisis comes on the heels of several other major disasters. In recent weeks our nation has had to deal with Hurricane Harvey, Hurricane Irma and the Las Vegas shooting, and many have pointed out that the U.S. has not seen a series of disastrous events such as this in a very long time. It would be hard to overstate the devastation that we have witnessed in northern California so far. In some areas, it literally looks like a war zone: ‘It looks like a bombing run here,’ said winemaker Joe Nielsen of Santa Rosa’s Donelan Family Wines, speaking to the San Francisco Chronicle. ‘Just chimneys and burnt-out cars and cooked trees.’

What would you do if your home burned to the ground? Perhaps you could use the insurance money to rebuild eventually, but what would you do in the meanwhile?

Everywhere you go in northern California the smell of smoke fills the air. At this point it is so bad that even San Francisco is reporting “the worst air quality ever recorded”: “We are reporting the worst air quality ever recorded for smoke in many parts of the Bay Area,” said Tom Flannigan, spokesman for the Bay Area Air Quality Management District. “This is similar to what you see in Beijing China in bad air days there.” Soot readings in many areas have reached levels considered very unhealthy or hazardous, air quality regulators said.

And the economic damage that is being done by these fires is going to be felt for many, many years to come. As the quote below explains, California accounts for approximately 85 percent of the wine production in the United States, and Napa and Sonoma counties are the heart of the wine industry in the state: "Wine industry experts say that even if a winery’s vineyards remain standing, they face steep challenges as their employees struggle with burned or damaged homes. The region counts wine and tourism as top employers, and many workers who pick grapes or work in hotels may be compelled to relocate after losing everything.

Napa and Sonoma counties are home to around 900 wineries (of 4,600 statewide), with most boutique businesses making higher-end wines. The two counties represent 13% of the state’s output. And the state itself supplies 85% of the nation’s wine production, making it the fourth-largest producer of wines after Italy, France and Spain."

Expect the price of wine to go up substantially in the months ahead, and this is going to be a huge hit for one of the most economically prosperous areas of the state. Many of the facilities that have been destroyed will never be rebuilt, and needless to say the tourism industry in northern California will not be the same for a very long time.

But the true extent of the devastation will not be known until the crisis is over, and it looks like the worst chapters may still be ahead. USA Today is reporting that no rain is in the forecast, and strong winds are going to continue to push wildfires very rapidly across the region: “No rainfall is forecast for ongoing fires in California,” the weather service said. “Strong winds behind the front will bring elevated-to-critical fire weather threats to active fires across northern California today into Thursday.”

Please pray for the people living in northern California. Normally, it is one of the most beautiful areas on the entire planet, but now it is literally being t***sformed into a complete and total nightmare.”
- http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/
"Red F**g Warning: California Wildfires"... (show quote)



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Oct 13, 2017 19:57:40   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
2bltap wrote:
I found it very odd the other day pafret when MoonBeam Brown came right out and stateed that there were going to be a lot more fires coming. Now one could ASSUME that due to dry weather it could obviously happen, but there were numerous fires that were intentionally started and the perpet*****rs were caught. Just sayin.
Semper Fi






I found it very odd the other day pafret when Moon... (show quote)


Given the extremely dry conditions in California and the utter impossibility of controlling wildfires it is beyond me how anyone could deliberately set them. I watched the news at five and they indicated that the heavy rains early this year had caused grasses to grow prolifically throughout the wooded areas. That grass then died and dried becoming the fuel to speed these fires. What a messed up state, they get fires because of no rain and then get rain which sets the stage for more fires; seems like everything is lose - lose out there.

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Oct 14, 2017 06:37:15   #
Paybacktimeishere
 
"Red F**g Warning: California Wildfires"

I'D Like To Know How These Malicious
Fire's Were Started, Because Not Too Many Year's Ago, It Was Determined, That "CRIMINAL
I*****L A***N'S", Had "DELIBERATELY SET" FIRES, IN AREA'S Of SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
IF This Is True, For The Northern & Central Wine,
& Agricultural, Region Of California( Including Forested Area's ), Then, The Punishment For S******n, Sabotage, & Homicidal Arson, "MUST BE EXECUTION, Not DEPORTATION"!!!

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Oct 14, 2017 08:47:43   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Paybacktimeishere wrote:
"Red F**g Warning: California Wildfires"

I'D Like To Know How These Malicious
Fire's Were Started, Because Not Too Many Year's Ago, It Was Determined, That "CRIMINAL
I*****L A***N'S", Had "DELIBERATELY SET" FIRES, IN AREA'S Of SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
IF This Is True, For The Northern & Central Wine,
& Agricultural, Region Of California( Including Forested Area's ), Then, The Punishment For S******n, Sabotage, & Homicidal Arson, "MUST BE EXECUTION, Not DEPORTATION"!!!
"Red F**g Warning: California Wildfires"... (show quote)


It would be in any rational society but then this is California where rationality was something that happened in the last war that caused shortages of foodstuffs and material goods.

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Oct 14, 2017 11:01:53   #
boatbob2
 
WHEN,California,come to OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,with their hands out,for Federal assistance,I hope Donald says NO, let that sanctuary state,take care of itself...

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Oct 14, 2017 11:24:09   #
Lonewolf
 
If that we're to happen I would hope Calif would withhold the billions in taxes they send to wa



quote=boatbob2]WHEN,California,come to OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,with their hands out,for Federal assistance,I hope Donald says NO, let that sanctuary state,take care of itself...[/quote]

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Oct 14, 2017 12:31:29   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
desparado wrote:
If that we're to happen I would hope Calif would withhold the billions in taxes they send to wa



quote=boatbob2]WHEN,California,come to OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,with their hands out,for Federal assistance,I hope Donald says NO, let that sanctuary state,take care of itself...
[/quote]

They are not California's billions to withhold. They are Federally imposed taxes and are the property of the Federal Government. California does not send anything of their own, indeed they get back some of the Fed's money. This idea that California "contributes" is pure poppycock. It is like Willie Sutton who stated he robbed banks because that is where the money was. Californians are populous so the federally imposed taxes on all states generate more revenue in States with populations like California.

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Oct 14, 2017 12:48:06   #
Lonewolf
 
that's why they should become their own country




pafret wrote:
They are not California's billions to withhold. They are Federally imposed taxes and are the property of the Federal Government. California does not send anything of their own, indeed they get back some of the Fed's money. This idea that California "contributes" is pure poppycock. It is like Willie Sutton who stated he robbed banks because that is where the money was. Californians are populous so the federally imposed taxes on all states generate more revenue in States with populations like California.
They are not California's billions to withhold. T... (show quote)

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Oct 14, 2017 12:52:32   #
Big Bass
 
pafret wrote:
"Red F**g Warning: California Wildfires"


"Red F**g Warning: These California Wildfires Are ‘Among The Most
Destructive Fire Events In US History’ And They Are About To Get Even Worse"
by Michael Snyder

"The wildfires that are roaring through northern California are already “among the most destructive fire events in U.S. history”, and by the time it is all said and done this could be the worst wildfire season in the history of the state. So far, fires have scorched more than 250 square miles, and more than 3,500 homes and businesses have already been destroyed. The official death toll has risen to 21, but that is expected to rise dramatically because over 600 missing persons reports have been filed with authorities. The worst damage has been done in Napa and Sonoma counties, and you can see some deeply troubling photos of the devastation here https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/10/apocalyptic-images-from-the-deadly-fires-in-northern-california.html and here http://www.businessinsider.com/napa-winery-burned-in-fires-2017-10/#we-are-eventually-going-to-rebuild-and-are-hopeful-for-the-future-birebent-told-business-insider-22.

Unfortunately, this crisis is far from over. In fact, the National Weather Service has just issued a pair of “red f**g warnings”: "The weather forecast is not looking good for those living in wine country, and for those firefighters trying to get a handle on the 22 wildfires raging through Northern California, which broke out Sunday and are barely contained more than three days later.

The National Weather Service issued a red f**g warning for the North and East bays starting at 5 p.m. Wednesday and midnight on Thursday respectively. That means winds can gust from 20 mph to 50 mph in the higher elevation areas, fanning the flames down mountains and into the cities."

So as bad as things are at this moment, the t***h is that they are going to get even worse over the next 24 hours. And that is quite sobering to hear, because this is already one of “the most destructive fire events in U.S. history”: "The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said fire activity increased significantly, destroying more buildings and forcing more mandatory evacuations. The wind-whipped, fast moving cluster of blazes ranks among the most destructive fire events in U.S. history. “This is a serious, critical, catastrophic event,” Cal Fire Chief Ken Pimlott said. “It’s pure devastation, and it’s going to take a while to get out and comb through all this.”

Of course this crisis comes on the heels of several other major disasters. In recent weeks our nation has had to deal with Hurricane Harvey, Hurricane Irma and the Las Vegas shooting, and many have pointed out that the U.S. has not seen a series of disastrous events such as this in a very long time. It would be hard to overstate the devastation that we have witnessed in northern California so far. In some areas, it literally looks like a war zone: ‘It looks like a bombing run here,’ said winemaker Joe Nielsen of Santa Rosa’s Donelan Family Wines, speaking to the San Francisco Chronicle. ‘Just chimneys and burnt-out cars and cooked trees.’

What would you do if your home burned to the ground? Perhaps you could use the insurance money to rebuild eventually, but what would you do in the meanwhile?

Everywhere you go in northern California the smell of smoke fills the air. At this point it is so bad that even San Francisco is reporting “the worst air quality ever recorded”: “We are reporting the worst air quality ever recorded for smoke in many parts of the Bay Area,” said Tom Flannigan, spokesman for the Bay Area Air Quality Management District. “This is similar to what you see in Beijing China in bad air days there.” Soot readings in many areas have reached levels considered very unhealthy or hazardous, air quality regulators said.

And the economic damage that is being done by these fires is going to be felt for many, many years to come. As the quote below explains, California accounts for approximately 85 percent of the wine production in the United States, and Napa and Sonoma counties are the heart of the wine industry in the state: "Wine industry experts say that even if a winery’s vineyards remain standing, they face steep challenges as their employees struggle with burned or damaged homes. The region counts wine and tourism as top employers, and many workers who pick grapes or work in hotels may be compelled to relocate after losing everything.

Napa and Sonoma counties are home to around 900 wineries (of 4,600 statewide), with most boutique businesses making higher-end wines. The two counties represent 13% of the state’s output. And the state itself supplies 85% of the nation’s wine production, making it the fourth-largest producer of wines after Italy, France and Spain."

Expect the price of wine to go up substantially in the months ahead, and this is going to be a huge hit for one of the most economically prosperous areas of the state. Many of the facilities that have been destroyed will never be rebuilt, and needless to say the tourism industry in northern California will not be the same for a very long time.

But the true extent of the devastation will not be known until the crisis is over, and it looks like the worst chapters may still be ahead. USA Today is reporting that no rain is in the forecast, and strong winds are going to continue to push wildfires very rapidly across the region: “No rainfall is forecast for ongoing fires in California,” the weather service said. “Strong winds behind the front will bring elevated-to-critical fire weather threats to active fires across northern California today into Thursday.”

Please pray for the people living in northern California. Normally, it is one of the most beautiful areas on the entire planet, but now it is literally being t***sformed into a complete and total nightmare.”
- http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/
"Red F**g Warning: California Wildfires"... (show quote)

I'm amazed Nancy Peloser didn't say Trump started the fires personally.

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Oct 14, 2017 12:54:18   #
Lonewolf
 
trumps not allowed to play with matches




Big Bass wrote:
I'm amazed Nancy Peloser didn't say Trump started the fires personally.

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Oct 14, 2017 13:55:49   #
Mike Easterday
 
Get the money from Mexico! How much is sent there by i*****l a***ns . Not to mention drugs and other illegal activity!

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Oct 14, 2017 14:02:00   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
pafret wrote:
They are not California's billions to withhold. They are Federally imposed taxes and are the property of the Federal Government. California does not send anything of their own, indeed they get back some of the Fed's money. This idea that California "contributes" is pure poppycock. It is like Willie Sutton who stated he robbed banks because that is where the money was. Californians are populous so the federally imposed taxes on all states generate more revenue in States with populations like California.
They are not California's billions to withhold. T... (show quote)


Actually, Pafret, the cause of California being a "donor state" - we take less from the federal government than we pay in - is that our population is relatively younger and wealthier than most states.

My recollection is that you are pretty conservative, I think.
So I am wondering if your stance on Federally imposed taxes is the same for yourself as an individual as it seems to be for the residents of California as a whole.
Are the Federal taxes levied on your own income also "..the property of the Federal Government"?

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Oct 14, 2017 14:05:47   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
desparado wrote:
that's why they should become their own country


Since our economy is about the fifth largest in the world, in may ways we are a bit like our own country.

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