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Oct 12, 2017 21:31:42   #
Jack2014
 
The recent executive order signed by trump is a direct threat to all seniors and Americans Health Care by authorizing low cost junk health care insurance. It is also designed to continue republican undermining ACA which they been doing at the fringes for several years.
These plans were assembled before and failed miserably due to the inability of the low cost plans to pay out. They would actually collect your money and if claims occurred,would disappear. Check it out.
These plans will make it more costly for real Health Care plans and undoubtedly increase prescription costs. Why? Fewer pill buyers and the requirement for the pill producers to maintain profits and increase them in order to make executive bonuses.
Medicare becomes more expensive for seniors W/O SS increases.
Even the richly filthy rich will pay more and they may even realize that their local hospital will close along with their top floor executive suite due to the hospital's inability to allow patients who have insurance policies that won't pay.
The whole thing is a s**mmers delight which trump is a member in great standing.

And what about PR
And what about  PR...

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Oct 12, 2017 21:40:11   #
MS. FACTUAL
 
Jack2014 wrote:
The recent executive order signed by trump is a direct threat to all seniors and Americans Health Care by authorizing low cost junk health care insurance. It is also designed to continue republican undermining ACA which they been doing at the fringes for several years.
These plans were assembled before and failed miserably due to the inability of the low cost plans to pay out. They would actually collect your money and if claims occurred,would disappear. Check it out.
These plans will make it more costly for real Health Care plans and undoubtedly increase prescription costs. Why? Fewer pill buyers and the requirement for the pill producers to maintain profits and increase them in order to make executive bonuses.
Medicare becomes more expensive for seniors W/O SS increases.
Even the richly filthy rich will pay more and they may even realize that their local hospital will close along with their top floor executive suite due to the hospital's inability to allow patients who have insurance policies that won't pay.
The whole thing is a s**mmers delight which trump is a member in great standing.
The recent executive order signed by trump is a di... (show quote)


But wait who in California wants ANYONE in the GOP to help them? Those fires are a calling card from GOD....as to health care, you should be not worried at all. For those individuals like you, perhaps checking out pre paid funerals would work much better for you? Clearly you won't be around much longer...C Ya Later...!

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Oct 12, 2017 21:41:36   #
Jack2014
 
Jack2014 wrote:
The recent executive order signed by trump is a direct threat to all seniors and Americans Health Care by authorizing low cost junk health care insurance. It is also designed to continue republican undermining ACA which they been doing at the fringes for several years.
These plans were assembled before and failed miserably due to the inability of the low cost plans to pay out. They would actually collect your money and if claims occurred,would disappear. Check it out.
These plans will make it more costly for real Health Care plans and undoubtedly increase prescription costs. Why? Fewer pill buyers and the requirement for the pill producers to maintain profits and increase them in order to make executive bonuses.
Medicare becomes more expensive for seniors W/O SS increases.
Even the richly filthy rich will pay more and they may even realize that their local hospital will close along with their top floor executive suite due to the hospital's inability to allow patients who have insurance policies that won't pay.
The whole thing is a s**mmers delight which trump is a member in great standing.
The recent executive order signed by trump is a di... (show quote)


Senator Kaine wrote:

After repeatedly failing to repeal the ACA in Congress, President Trump is now using an executive order to try to destabilize our health care system. Today's order would allow cheap low-quality plans onto the market that could discriminate against people with preexisting conditions, seniors, and women. And it aims to push healthy people onto junk plans, leaving only the sick or at-risk on ACA plans -- essentially destroying the insurance market. The result could be higher premiums for families and more discrimination by big insurance companies.

Here's the bottom line: This is sabotage.

This is great again?
This is great again?...

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Oct 12, 2017 21:43:01   #
Jack2014
 
Where are you writing from? Your coffin sofa?

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Oct 12, 2017 21:46:26   #
mongo Loc: TEXAS
 
Jack2014 wrote:
Senator Kaine wrote:

After repeatedly failing to repeal the ACA in Congress, President Trump is now using an executive order to try to destabilize our health care system. Today's order would allow cheap low-quality plans onto the market that could discriminate against people with preexisting conditions, seniors, and women. And it aims to push healthy people onto junk plans, leaving only the sick or at-risk on ACA plans -- essentially destroying the insurance market. The result could be higher premiums for families and more discrimination by big insurance companies.

Here's the bottom line: This is sabotage.
Senator Kaine wrote: br br After repeatedly faili... (show quote)



I guess I won't be paying for some slackers health care soon, good news!

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Oct 12, 2017 22:04:16   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Jack2014 wrote:
The recent executive order signed by trump is a direct threat to all seniors and Americans Health Care by authorizing low cost junk health care insurance. It is also designed to continue republican undermining ACA which they been doing at the fringes for several years.
These plans were assembled before and failed miserably due to the inability of the low cost plans to pay out. They would actually collect your money and if claims occurred,would disappear. Check it out.
These plans will make it more costly for real Health Care plans and undoubtedly increase prescription costs. Why? Fewer pill buyers and the requirement for the pill producers to maintain profits and increase them in order to make executive bonuses.
Medicare becomes more expensive for seniors W/O SS increases.
Even the richly filthy rich will pay more and they may even realize that their local hospital will close along with their top floor executive suite due to the hospital's inability to allow patients who have insurance policies that won't pay.
The whole thing is a s**mmers delight which trump is a member in great standing.
The recent executive order signed by trump is a di... (show quote)


What plans? By allowing interstate insurance competition, you will see that competition generate better plans at lower costs. No one will be forced to buy junk coverage and that junk will not attract anyone to begin with. Have you completely forgotten the diverse options we had before the ACA destroyed that for us?

What you will see is the ability of small businesses to come under an umbrella of coverage through group plans and you will see this led by the NFIB.

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Oct 12, 2017 22:23:02   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
Jack2014 wrote:
The recent executive order signed by trump is a direct threat to all seniors and Americans Health Care by authorizing low cost junk health care insurance. It is also designed to continue republican undermining ACA which they been doing at the fringes for several years.
These plans were assembled before and failed miserably due to the inability of the low cost plans to pay out. They would actually collect your money and if claims occurred,would disappear. Check it out.
These plans will make it more costly for real Health Care plans and undoubtedly increase prescription costs. Why? Fewer pill buyers and the requirement for the pill producers to maintain profits and increase them in order to make executive bonuses.
Medicare becomes more expensive for seniors W/O SS increases.
Even the richly filthy rich will pay more and they may even realize that their local hospital will close along with their top floor executive suite due to the hospital's inability to allow patients who have insurance policies that won't pay.
The whole thing is a s**mmers delight which trump is a member in great standing.
The recent executive order signed by trump is a di... (show quote)


Why are you not angry at the mismanagement of the state of CA? You rail at Trump. Have you not heard CA repeatedly say they want no part of the U. S. and want to become a country unto themselves? Have you not heard them degrade all others, order their employees to not visit selected states? Now all of a sudden they are just one of the boys?

Are you not aware that for at least two decades environmentalists there have been telling the state to clear cut brush, create backfires to make fire breaks etc to effectively prevent exactly what is occurring there now.....
and the state has refused?

No one wants to see the death and destruction happen that is occurring there but you have a lot of nerve slighting the POTUS and nation that CA has been openly disrespecting and defying because you think there should be more help for the state that caused this problem to be out lof control to begin with.

And who are you to know how this should be handled or what resources are available and from where? Or for that matter, what Trump has done? Are you someone he is supposed to consult with?

I think not!

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Oct 12, 2017 22:28:14   #
Jack2014
 
mongo wrote:
I guess I won't be paying for some slackers health care soon, good news!


You're the type they put to sleep

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Oct 12, 2017 22:41:44   #
Jack2014
 
[quote=Docadhoc]Why are you not angry at the mismanagement of the state of CA?

What's the difference between Texas and California or Florida?
If you're from any state in the south, it's a welfare state. They receive more $$ than they pay in. California pays more $$ than they get back. Texas and Fla are welfare states as well.
Perhaps you should reconsider your dumb stance on c*****e c****e ala trump. 4 hurricanes and massive fire storm? Parts of Miami under water at high tide from sewer backup. Some states dry, others too wet. Catch the hint yet. It will be a lot worse in 2020, count on it. That plus your comments on California are prejudiced and incorrect trumpisms and f**e trump news.

Starting to feel the heat
Starting to feel the heat...

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Oct 12, 2017 22:45:36   #
Carol Kelly
 
Jack2014 wrote:
Senator Kaine wrote:

After repeatedly failing to repeal the ACA in Congress, President Trump is now using an executive order to try to destabilize our health care system. Today's order would allow cheap low-quality plans onto the market that could discriminate against people with preexisting conditions, seniors, and women. And it aims to push healthy people onto junk plans, leaving only the sick or at-risk on ACA plans -- essentially destroying the insurance market. The result could be higher premiums for families and more discrimination by big insurance companies.

Here's the bottom line: This is sabotage.
Senator Kaine wrote: br br After repeatedly faili... (show quote)


No, here's the bottom line...health care is failing all over the place. It's never been ACA.
Perhaps we should just let it play out, disappear.

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Oct 12, 2017 22:48:13   #
Jack2014
 
Docadhoc wrote:
What plans? By allowing interstate insurance competition, you will see that competition generate better plans at lower costs. No one will be forced to buy junk coverage and that junk will not attract anyone to begin with. Have you completely forgotten the diverse options we had before the ACA destroyed that for us?

What you will see is the ability of small businesses to come under an umbrella of coverage through group plans and you will see this led by the NFIB.


You're referring to s**m plans which do not pay out because of a lack of regulations requiring reserve funds and regulated state accountability. They are designed to let their policy holders die.

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Oct 12, 2017 23:07:59   #
Jack2014
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
No, here's the bottom line...health care is failing all over the place. It's never been ACA.
Perhaps we should just let it play out, disappear.


Perhaps if you get sick ,you'll find out and learn a great lesson. Without a good insurance plan, hospitals may not admit you even to emergency rooms bc they will be stuck with the bill. With poor plans, you'll go bankrupt like trump has done 6 times and now owes a huge amount of$$ to Russia and China Oligarths like Putin.
Your comment on ACA is BS. Repugs have been sabotaging it for years and now trump aims to finish it off. Again,violating yet another campaign pledge. Grayson was right! Repugs want seniors to just die.

And at trumpcare or killercare's low cost
And at trumpcare or killercare's low cost...

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Oct 12, 2017 23:44:12   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Since you are rather simple let me break down what really happened. The ACA is basically two parts. The government takeover of the health insurance industry and the expansion of Medicaid. The great majority of people that got insurance that didn’t have it before the ACA got it through the expansion of Medicaid. Today doesn’t affect them. Hopefully it will affect people like me Whose premium tripled and out of pocket quadrupled. I like the idea of choice. I understand why someone like you doesn’t. Rather live as a serf then be free.
Jack2014 wrote:
Senator Kaine wrote:

After repeatedly failing to repeal the ACA in Congress, President Trump is now using an executive order to try to destabilize our health care system. Today's order would allow cheap low-quality plans onto the market that could discriminate against people with preexisting conditions, seniors, and women. And it aims to push healthy people onto junk plans, leaving only the sick or at-risk on ACA plans -- essentially destroying the insurance market. The result could be higher premiums for families and more discrimination by big insurance companies.

Here's the bottom line: This is sabotage.
Senator Kaine wrote: br br After repeatedly faili... (show quote)

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Oct 12, 2017 23:44:18   #
Jack2014
 
Jack2014 wrote:
The recent executive order signed by trump is a direct threat to all seniors and Americans Health Care by authorizing low cost junk health care insurance. It is also designed to continue republican undermining ACA which they been doing at the fringes for several years.
These plans were assembled before and failed miserably due to the inability of the low cost plans to pay out. They would actually collect your money and if claims occurred,would disappear. Check it out.
These plans will make it more costly for real Health Care plans and undoubtedly increase prescription costs. Why? Fewer pill buyers and the requirement for the pill producers to maintain profits and increase them in order to make executive bonuses.
Medicare becomes more expensive for seniors W/O SS increases.
Even the richly filthy rich will pay more and they may even realize that their local hospital will close along with their top floor executive suite due to the hospital's inability to allow patients who have insurance policies that won't pay.
The whole thing is a s**mmers delight which trump is a member in great standing.
The recent executive order signed by trump is a di... (show quote)


Well, it's happening

BREAKING: The Trump White House confirms it will not pay Affordable Care Act subsidies.

Austan Goolsbee says that would be "a catastrophic decision that will lead to millions of people losing their insurance, and there will be thousands of people that die."

Higher,higher and higher insurance premiums. Higher than high prescription drug costs.
Are you repugs enjoying your greater America. Seniors you were warned repeatedly.

By a racist dimwit
By a racist dimwit...

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Oct 12, 2017 23:49:50   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Doc you explained what happened perfectly. Of course someone like jack who’s always on someone else’s dime won’t get it.
Docadhoc wrote:
What plans? By allowing interstate insurance competition, you will see that competition generate better plans at lower costs. No one will be forced to buy junk coverage and that junk will not attract anyone to begin with. Have you completely forgotten the diverse options we had before the ACA destroyed that for us?

What you will see is the ability of small businesses to come under an umbrella of coverage through group plans and you will see this led by the NFIB.

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