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Oct 4, 2017 18:52:49   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
We all know that the Republican/right wingers in congress are the most hypocritical in history.

If they are sitting on a toilet seat practicing a "wide stance", or telling the rest of America how to live their lives, it is a safe bet they are doing exactly what the are telling the rest of us is evil..

These are the people we should look to for leader ship an inspiration??

But the right wing will in all probability reelect the scum of the earth as if they were sent by their exclusive god up above..

This turd is one of my favs..



In early September, the Republican House member admitted to an extramarital affair with a "personal friend" following the unsealing of divorce records that showed he had been involved in a relationship with Shannon Edwards, a forensic psychologist.
"This is nobody's fault but my own, and I offer no excuses," Murphy said in a statement issued through his attorney, The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported. "To the extent that there should be any blame in this matter, it falls solely upon me."
It got much, much worse on Tuesday when the Post-Gazette reported on a text message exchange between Edwards and Murphy in which she alleges he urged her to have an a******n.
"And you have zero issue posting your pro-life stance all over the place when you had no issue asking me to abort our unborn child just last week when we thought that was one of the options," wrote Edwards in the text obtained by the Post-Gazette.

A text reply sent from Murphy's phone read: "I get what you say about my March for life messages. I've never written them. Staff does them. I read them and winced. I told staff don't write any more. I will."
Edwards was not ultimately pregnant.
Murphy's personal foibles are not the point here. What is the point is that he is someone who has been an outspoken critic of a******n rights in his public life even while apparently being much more willing to consider it when it impacts him personally.
Murphy was a co-sponsor of legislation -- passed in the House on Tuesday night -- that would make it illegal for women to abort a baby after the 20-week mark. He has a perfect 100% score with National Right to Life, having v**ed with the organization on five key pieces of legislation, including the "No Taxpayer Funding for A******ns Act." As my former Washington Post colleague Aaron Blake expertly documents here, Murphy was also touting his anti-a******n stance even as he was reportedly urging his mistress to seek an a******n.
This is hypocrisy of the worst sort. Murphy does one thing in his public life as an elected official and something very, very different in his private life. It's literally a do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do situation.
And it's what people, rightly, h**e about politics. The sense that politicians don't think the rules apply to them. The idea that all politicians are lying liars who have one position in public and a totally contradictory one in private. That they don't really believe anything they are saying.
It's those feelings which play a major part in the terrible image people hold of Washington these days. In a September CNN poll, just 20% of people approved of the job Republican leaders are doing in Congress; 32% approved of Democratic leaders in Congress. Less than three in 10 had a favorable opinion of the Republican Party in that same poll, the lowest mark ever recorded in CNN data.
It's that dissatisfaction, distrust and disdain that gave us Donald Trump. Trump blasted politicians -- in both parties -- as ineffective losers. So deep was peoples' dislike for traditional politicians that they were willing to take a massive risk -- and, make no mistake, they knew it was a major risk -- on Trump as president.
When you see a politician like Murphy, you can see why. Not all politicians are like him. Most aren't. But he is a classic bad apple spoiling the bunch.
His office has not commented on this latest report on text messages. Murphy was unopposed for re-e******n in 2016 and he sits in a district in western Pennsylvania that gave Trump a 17-point margin.
But this is the real conundrum of US politics. If past is prologue, there's a real chance Murphy will win again. Just before the 2012 e******n, reports came out that Tennessee Rep. Scott DesJarlais, a Republican opponent of a******n rights, had urged his pregnant mistress to get an a******n. He won. In the wake of that e******n, much more came out -- including the fact that DesJarlais and his ex-wife had mutually agreed she have two a******ns. He faced a serious primary challenge in 2014 -- but won. DesJarlais was re-elected to a 4th term with 6
5% in 2016.
That's the reality of our politics. And why so many people h**e it so much.

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Oct 4, 2017 19:39:36   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
Name of Shannon Edwards huh ! Any relations to one of your left wing runners of a few decades ago .
You know , John Edwards that used campaign funds to support his mistress while running for the White House .
Yes the worm does turn from time to time .
Then of course their is Wild Willy , JFK , Etc etc .
Whats your point . Infidelity is a non partisan affair . Most of the time .

If it were not for you being so thick you would be a good laugh .


permafrost wrote:
We all know that the Republican/right wingers in congress are the most hypocritical in history.

If they are sitting on a toilet seat practicing a "wide stance", or telling the rest of America how to live their lives, it is a safe bet they are doing exactly what the are telling the rest of us is evil..

These are the people we should look to for leader ship an inspiration??

But the right wing will in all probability reelect the scum of the earth as if they were sent by their exclusive god up above..

This turd is one of my favs..



In early September, the Republican House member admitted to an extramarital affair with a "personal friend" following the unsealing of divorce records that showed he had been involved in a relationship with Shannon Edwards, a forensic psychologist.
"This is nobody's fault but my own, and I offer no excuses," Murphy said in a statement issued through his attorney, The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported. "To the extent that there should be any blame in this matter, it falls solely upon me."
It got much, much worse on Tuesday when the Post-Gazette reported on a text message exchange between Edwards and Murphy in which she alleges he urged her to have an a******n.
"And you have zero issue posting your pro-life stance all over the place when you had no issue asking me to abort our unborn child just last week when we thought that was one of the options," wrote Edwards in the text obtained by the Post-Gazette.

A text reply sent from Murphy's phone read: "I get what you say about my March for life messages. I've never written them. Staff does them. I read them and winced. I told staff don't write any more. I will."
Edwards was not ultimately pregnant.
Murphy's personal foibles are not the point here. What is the point is that he is someone who has been an outspoken critic of a******n rights in his public life even while apparently being much more willing to consider it when it impacts him personally.
Murphy was a co-sponsor of legislation -- passed in the House on Tuesday night -- that would make it illegal for women to abort a baby after the 20-week mark. He has a perfect 100% score with National Right to Life, having v**ed with the organization on five key pieces of legislation, including the "No Taxpayer Funding for A******ns Act." As my former Washington Post colleague Aaron Blake expertly documents here, Murphy was also touting his anti-a******n stance even as he was reportedly urging his mistress to seek an a******n.
This is hypocrisy of the worst sort. Murphy does one thing in his public life as an elected official and something very, very different in his private life. It's literally a do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do situation.
And it's what people, rightly, h**e about politics. The sense that politicians don't think the rules apply to them. The idea that all politicians are lying liars who have one position in public and a totally contradictory one in private. That they don't really believe anything they are saying.
It's those feelings which play a major part in the terrible image people hold of Washington these days. In a September CNN poll, just 20% of people approved of the job Republican leaders are doing in Congress; 32% approved of Democratic leaders in Congress. Less than three in 10 had a favorable opinion of the Republican Party in that same poll, the lowest mark ever recorded in CNN data.
It's that dissatisfaction, distrust and disdain that gave us Donald Trump. Trump blasted politicians -- in both parties -- as ineffective losers. So deep was peoples' dislike for traditional politicians that they were willing to take a massive risk -- and, make no mistake, they knew it was a major risk -- on Trump as president.
When you see a politician like Murphy, you can see why. Not all politicians are like him. Most aren't. But he is a classic bad apple spoiling the bunch.
His office has not commented on this latest report on text messages. Murphy was unopposed for re-e******n in 2016 and he sits in a district in western Pennsylvania that gave Trump a 17-point margin.
But this is the real conundrum of US politics. If past is prologue, there's a real chance Murphy will win again. Just before the 2012 e******n, reports came out that Tennessee Rep. Scott DesJarlais, a Republican opponent of a******n rights, had urged his pregnant mistress to get an a******n. He won. In the wake of that e******n, much more came out -- including the fact that DesJarlais and his ex-wife had mutually agreed she have two a******ns. He faced a serious primary challenge in 2014 -- but won. DesJarlais was re-elected to a 4th term with 6
5% in 2016.
That's the reality of our politics. And why so many people h**e it so much.
We all know that the Republican/right wingers in c... (show quote)

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Oct 4, 2017 19:57:47   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
Permanently frosted.

Have you ever considered backing off your Valium.

Valium is known as Diazepam and is a sedative-hypnotic drug in the class of drugs known as benzodiazepines, which studies have shown can trigger aggressive behavior. Chronic use or abuse of sedatives such as diazepam "Valium" can also trigger psychotic experiences,

You will be a better and more sane person if and when you do.

That is a good little boy.

Ghost

http://lshss.pubs.asha.org/data/journals/lshss/929153/lshss_23_1_20fig4.jpeg

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Oct 4, 2017 20:33:12   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
We all know that the Republican/right wingers in congress are the most hypocritical in history.

If they are sitting on a toilet seat practicing a "wide stance", or telling the rest of America how to live their lives, it is a safe bet they are doing exactly what the are telling the rest of us is evil..

These are the people we should look to for leader ship an inspiration??

But the right wing will in all probability reelect the scum of the earth as if they were sent by their exclusive god up above..

This turd is one of my favs..



In early September, the Republican House member admitted to an extramarital affair with a "personal friend" following the unsealing of divorce records that showed he had been involved in a relationship with Shannon Edwards, a forensic psychologist.
"This is nobody's fault but my own, and I offer no excuses," Murphy said in a statement issued through his attorney, The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported. "To the extent that there should be any blame in this matter, it falls solely upon me."
It got much, much worse on Tuesday when the Post-Gazette reported on a text message exchange between Edwards and Murphy in which she alleges he urged her to have an a******n.
"And you have zero issue posting your pro-life stance all over the place when you had no issue asking me to abort our unborn child just last week when we thought that was one of the options," wrote Edwards in the text obtained by the Post-Gazette.

A text reply sent from Murphy's phone read: "I get what you say about my March for life messages. I've never written them. Staff does them. I read them and winced. I told staff don't write any more. I will."
Edwards was not ultimately pregnant.
Murphy's personal foibles are not the point here. What is the point is that he is someone who has been an outspoken critic of a******n rights in his public life even while apparently being much more willing to consider it when it impacts him personally.
Murphy was a co-sponsor of legislation -- passed in the House on Tuesday night -- that would make it illegal for women to abort a baby after the 20-week mark. He has a perfect 100% score with National Right to Life, having v**ed with the organization on five key pieces of legislation, including the "No Taxpayer Funding for A******ns Act." As my former Washington Post colleague Aaron Blake expertly documents here, Murphy was also touting his anti-a******n stance even as he was reportedly urging his mistress to seek an a******n.
This is hypocrisy of the worst sort. Murphy does one thing in his public life as an elected official and something very, very different in his private life. It's literally a do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do situation.
And it's what people, rightly, h**e about politics. The sense that politicians don't think the rules apply to them. The idea that all politicians are lying liars who have one position in public and a totally contradictory one in private. That they don't really believe anything they are saying.
It's those feelings which play a major part in the terrible image people hold of Washington these days. In a September CNN poll, just 20% of people approved of the job Republican leaders are doing in Congress; 32% approved of Democratic leaders in Congress. Less than three in 10 had a favorable opinion of the Republican Party in that same poll, the lowest mark ever recorded in CNN data.
It's that dissatisfaction, distrust and disdain that gave us Donald Trump. Trump blasted politicians -- in both parties -- as ineffective losers. So deep was peoples' dislike for traditional politicians that they were willing to take a massive risk -- and, make no mistake, they knew it was a major risk -- on Trump as president.
When you see a politician like Murphy, you can see why. Not all politicians are like him. Most aren't. But he is a classic bad apple spoiling the bunch.
His office has not commented on this latest report on text messages. Murphy was unopposed for re-e******n in 2016 and he sits in a district in western Pennsylvania that gave Trump a 17-point margin.
But this is the real conundrum of US politics. If past is prologue, there's a real chance Murphy will win again. Just before the 2012 e******n, reports came out that Tennessee Rep. Scott DesJarlais, a Republican opponent of a******n rights, had urged his pregnant mistress to get an a******n. He won. In the wake of that e******n, much more came out -- including the fact that DesJarlais and his ex-wife had mutually agreed she have two a******ns. He faced a serious primary challenge in 2014 -- but won. DesJarlais was re-elected to a 4th term with 6
5% in 2016.
That's the reality of our politics. And why so many people h**e it so much.
We all know that the Republican/right wingers in c... (show quote)

That explains the Democrats' amazing political victories over the last 8 years.

Or maybe not....

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Oct 4, 2017 20:36:36   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
Permanently frosted.

Have you ever considered backing off your Valium.

Valium is known as Diazepam and is a sedative-hypnotic drug in the class of drugs known as benzodiazepines, which studies have shown can trigger aggressive behavior. Chronic use or abuse of sedatives such as diazepam "Valium" can also trigger psychotic experiences,

You will be a better and more sane person if and when you do.

That is a good little boy.

Ghost

http://lshss.pubs.asha.org/data/journals/lshss/929153/lshss_23_1_20fig4.jpeg
Permanently frosted. br br Have you ever consider... (show quote)





YOu two guys should both try and read all of this little bit..

It will explain to you why the orange man owns you and holds you by the balls..

Following the explosive report that President Donald Trump leaned on then-FBI director James Comey to go easy on former national security adviser Michael Flynn—and the explosive report that Trump’s t***sition team knew Flynn was under FBI investigation when Trump tapped him to be his top national security aide—an increasing number of congressional Republicans have begun to accept the need for full-scale investigations along with the appointment of Robert Mueller as the new special counsel to examine the Trump-Russia affair. But party leaders have not reached the point where they are willing to truly confront the scandal-plagued president. The GOP establishment can’t and won’t thoroughly challenge Trump over the assorted controversies brewing within his chaotic administration. To do so would risk a nuclear civil war that could blow their party to smithereens.

Ever since Trump moved into the White House, liberals (and others) have plaintively asked, why aren’t Republicans fiercely investigating Trump and his crew and seeking to hold them accountable for various instances of improbity? There’s been plenty to choose from: the Trump-Russia scandal, the smorgasbord of financial conflicts of interests involving Trump and his family members in and out of government, other possible ethics violations (including nepotistic hiring), the ever-widening Michael Flynn affair, and so on. In the wake of Trump’s firing of Comey, the guy in charge of a FBI investigation that could land on Trump’s doorstep, and the subsequent report (denied by the White House) that Trump pressured Comey on Flynn, some GOPers on Capitol Hill have gently called for probes into these matters. But by and large, Republican leaders have not dared to take on Trump vigorously. “The last thing I’m going to do is pre-judge anything,” House Speaker Paul Ryan said Wednesday.

One reason Republicans have been reticent to criticize Trump is obvious: they care more about working with—that is, using—Trump to attain their most beloved policy desires: generous tax breaks for the wealthy, draconian budget cuts for government programs (including those that assist low- and middle-income Americans), and the repeal-and-replace-or-wh**ever of Obamacare. But there’s a related reason: if congressional Republicans were to challenge Trump in forceful fashion, it could destroy the GOP.

Pop quiz: who’s the most vengeful politician on the scene today? Yes, it’s Trump. As I reported before E******n Day, Trump is completely obsessed with revenge. For years, Trump often said in paid speeches that a key to success is that you have to be a merciless SOB when dealing with foes. Here’s how he spelled it out: “Get even with people. If they screw you, screw them back 10 times as hard. I really believe it.” Another time, he elaborated:

One of the things you should do in terms of success: If somebody hits you, you’ve got to hit ’em back five times harder than they ever thought possible. You’ve got to get even. Get even. And the reason, the reason you do, is so important…The reason you do, you have to do it, because if they do that to you, you have to leave a telltale sign that they just can’t take advantage of you. It’s not so much for the person, which does make you feel good, to be honest with you, I’ve done it many times. But other people watch and you know they say, “Well, let’s leave Trump alone,” or “Let’s leave this one,” or “Doris, let’s leave her alone. They fight too hard.” I say it, and it’s so important. You have to, you have to hit back. You have to hit back.

With the president showing signs of narcissism and paranoia—on Tuesday, he declared, “No politician in history…has been treated worse or more unfairly” than he has been—Republican politicians who dare to confront Trump can expect to be targeted and mowed down by Trump.

Prior to the recent Comey and Flynn controversies, many GOPers were scared of Trump. A House Democrat a few weeks ago told me of a conversation he had with a Republican colleague whom he was close to persuading to sponsor a piece of legislation that would likely be popular in the GOPer’s district but not fancied by the Trump White House. “I just can’t do it,” the Republican finally admitted to the Democrat. “He’ll come after me on Twitter.” The wrath of Trump was something this Republican feared deeply—just over a policy disagreement.

Imagine if Republicans squared off against Trump regarding a matter involving his integrity—or one that could pose an existential threat to his presidency. (Examining the Comey issues as possible acts of obstruction of justice could well lead to the question of impeachment.) Trump certainly would not consider such action kindly. And if he were going to screw them back 10 times as hard, what would that mean for congressional Republicans?

It would be quite improbable that a raging and revenge-seeking Trump would be able to collaborate with Republicans on legislative priorities. What would be more important for Trump: working with Republicans to achieve tax reform or extracting payback?

If the going gets tougher, Trump will insist on fealty from his fellow Republicans. Yet if some opt to join the forces of investigation, a dividing line would be created within the party: you’re with Trump, or you’re not. Of course, Trump and his minions would be keeping score. During the the first and chaotic effort of House Republicans to gut Obamacare, the Trump White House considered compiling an enemies list of those GOPers who opposed the Trump-backed bill. Republicans who threatened his presidency could expect much worse than being placed on a roster of unfriendlies.

This is far more than an inside-Washington affair. Trump’s base is the party’s base. Despite all the screw-ups, false assertions, broken promises, and flip-flops of Trump’s still young (but exhausting) presidency, he remains hugely popular among Republicans—84 percent of Republicans still approve of Trump in the latest Gallup poll—who presumably buy his “f**e news” attacks on media reports that cast him as an autocratic, t***h-challenged, and bumbling president. If Republicans on Capitol Hill turn against Trump they could well encounter the fury of their most dependable v**ers. In the fight for the soul of the party, could GOP leaders (Washington insiders!) best the demagogic Trump? Sen. Mitch McConnell or Rep. Paul Ryan would be no match for him. The idea of a President Pence would likely be little consolation for the base during a clash between Republicans and Trump.

The Republican establishment has already demonstrated that political calculations, not principles, are its driving force. And one calculation is easy to process: if the GOP breaks rank with Trump on any of these scandals, there will be no turning back. An irate (and irrational?) Trump would demand retribution. A base already suspicious of GOP insiders could become furious. Tax cuts and the like would be at risk. The party itself would be endangered. Of course, as is so often noted, if the Republicans start to feel Trump-related e*******l pain—say, they lose one of the upcoming special House e******ns in GOP-leaning districts—they might reevaluate their situational loyalty to Trump. But the smart ones know the costs of such a course—even if necessary for survival—could be exceedingly high.

There is no good answer for congressional Republicans facing the dilemma of what to do about Trump. They long ago decided to lash themselves to a man with a decades-long record of dishonesty, arrogance, bullying, sleazy deal-making, and score-settling. There are no easy escape routes. No convenient off-ramps. No lifeboats on this ship. He made the bed, and they leaped into it. (Oh, Donald!) Now they’re screwed. The old cliché is that you don’t go after the king unless you can k**l the king. But for Republicans, the situation is worse that that: it may not be possible for them to battle their king without razing their kingdom.

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Oct 4, 2017 20:48:15   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
permafrost wrote:
YOu two guys should both try and read all of this little bit..

It will explain to you why the orange man owns you and holds you by the balls..

Following the explosive report that President Donald Trump leaned on then-FBI director James Comey to go easy on former national security adviser Michael Flynn—and the explosive report that Trump’s t***sition team knew Flynn was under FBI investigation when Trump tapped him to be his top national security aide—an increasing number of congressional Republicans have begun to accept the need for full-scale investigations along with the appointment of Robert Mueller as the new special counsel to examine the Trump-Russia affair. But party leaders have not reached the point where they are willing to truly confront the scandal-plagued president. The GOP establishment can’t and won’t thoroughly challenge Trump over the assorted controversies brewing within his chaotic administration. To do so would risk a nuclear civil war that could blow their party to smithereens.

Ever since Trump moved into the White House, liberals (and others) have plaintively asked, why aren’t Republicans fiercely investigating Trump and his crew and seeking to hold them accountable for various instances of improbity? There’s been plenty to choose from: the Trump-Russia scandal, the smorgasbord of financial conflicts of interests involving Trump and his family members in and out of government, other possible ethics violations (including nepotistic hiring), the ever-widening Michael Flynn affair, and so on. In the wake of Trump’s firing of Comey, the guy in charge of a FBI investigation that could land on Trump’s doorstep, and the subsequent report (denied by the White House) that Trump pressured Comey on Flynn, some GOPers on Capitol Hill have gently called for probes into these matters. But by and large, Republican leaders have not dared to take on Trump vigorously. “The last thing I’m going to do is pre-judge anything,” House Speaker Paul Ryan said Wednesday.

One reason Republicans have been reticent to criticize Trump is obvious: they care more about working with—that is, using—Trump to attain their most beloved policy desires: generous tax breaks for the wealthy, draconian budget cuts for government programs (including those that assist low- and middle-income Americans), and the repeal-and-replace-or-wh**ever of Obamacare. But there’s a related reason: if congressional Republicans were to challenge Trump in forceful fashion, it could destroy the GOP.

Pop quiz: who’s the most vengeful politician on the scene today? Yes, it’s Trump. As I reported before E******n Day, Trump is completely obsessed with revenge. For years, Trump often said in paid speeches that a key to success is that you have to be a merciless SOB when dealing with foes. Here’s how he spelled it out: “Get even with people. If they screw you, screw them back 10 times as hard. I really believe it.” Another time, he elaborated:

One of the things you should do in terms of success: If somebody hits you, you’ve got to hit ’em back five times harder than they ever thought possible. You’ve got to get even. Get even. And the reason, the reason you do, is so important…The reason you do, you have to do it, because if they do that to you, you have to leave a telltale sign that they just can’t take advantage of you. It’s not so much for the person, which does make you feel good, to be honest with you, I’ve done it many times. But other people watch and you know they say, “Well, let’s leave Trump alone,” or “Let’s leave this one,” or “Doris, let’s leave her alone. They fight too hard.” I say it, and it’s so important. You have to, you have to hit back. You have to hit back.

With the president showing signs of narcissism and paranoia—on Tuesday, he declared, “No politician in history…has been treated worse or more unfairly” than he has been—Republican politicians who dare to confront Trump can expect to be targeted and mowed down by Trump.

Prior to the recent Comey and Flynn controversies, many GOPers were scared of Trump. A House Democrat a few weeks ago told me of a conversation he had with a Republican colleague whom he was close to persuading to sponsor a piece of legislation that would likely be popular in the GOPer’s district but not fancied by the Trump White House. “I just can’t do it,” the Republican finally admitted to the Democrat. “He’ll come after me on Twitter.” The wrath of Trump was something this Republican feared deeply—just over a policy disagreement.

Imagine if Republicans squared off against Trump regarding a matter involving his integrity—or one that could pose an existential threat to his presidency. (Examining the Comey issues as possible acts of obstruction of justice could well lead to the question of impeachment.) Trump certainly would not consider such action kindly. And if he were going to screw them back 10 times as hard, what would that mean for congressional Republicans?

It would be quite improbable that a raging and revenge-seeking Trump would be able to collaborate with Republicans on legislative priorities. What would be more important for Trump: working with Republicans to achieve tax reform or extracting payback?

If the going gets tougher, Trump will insist on fealty from his fellow Republicans. Yet if some opt to join the forces of investigation, a dividing line would be created within the party: you’re with Trump, or you’re not. Of course, Trump and his minions would be keeping score. During the the first and chaotic effort of House Republicans to gut Obamacare, the Trump White House considered compiling an enemies list of those GOPers who opposed the Trump-backed bill. Republicans who threatened his presidency could expect much worse than being placed on a roster of unfriendlies.

This is far more than an inside-Washington affair. Trump’s base is the party’s base. Despite all the screw-ups, false assertions, broken promises, and flip-flops of Trump’s still young (but exhausting) presidency, he remains hugely popular among Republicans—84 percent of Republicans still approve of Trump in the latest Gallup poll—who presumably buy his “f**e news” attacks on media reports that cast him as an autocratic, t***h-challenged, and bumbling president. If Republicans on Capitol Hill turn against Trump they could well encounter the fury of their most dependable v**ers. In the fight for the soul of the party, could GOP leaders (Washington insiders!) best the demagogic Trump? Sen. Mitch McConnell or Rep. Paul Ryan would be no match for him. The idea of a President Pence would likely be little consolation for the base during a clash between Republicans and Trump.

The Republican establishment has already demonstrated that political calculations, not principles, are its driving force. And one calculation is easy to process: if the GOP breaks rank with Trump on any of these scandals, there will be no turning back. An irate (and irrational?) Trump would demand retribution. A base already suspicious of GOP insiders could become furious. Tax cuts and the like would be at risk. The party itself would be endangered. Of course, as is so often noted, if the Republicans start to feel Trump-related e*******l pain—say, they lose one of the upcoming special House e******ns in GOP-leaning districts—they might reevaluate their situational loyalty to Trump. But the smart ones know the costs of such a course—even if necessary for survival—could be exceedingly high.

There is no good answer for congressional Republicans facing the dilemma of what to do about Trump. They long ago decided to lash themselves to a man with a decades-long record of dishonesty, arrogance, bullying, sleazy deal-making, and score-settling. There are no easy escape routes. No convenient off-ramps. No lifeboats on this ship. He made the bed, and they leaped into it. (Oh, Donald!) Now they’re screwed. The old cliché is that you don’t go after the king unless you can k**l the king. But for Republicans, the situation is worse that that: it may not be possible for them to battle their king without razing their kingdom.
YOu two guys should both try and read all of this ... (show quote)


What nonsense.

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Oct 4, 2017 20:54:07   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
permafrost wrote:
We all know that the Republican/right wingers in congress are the most hypocritical in history.

If they are sitting on a toilet seat practicing a "wide stance", or telling the rest of America how to live their lives, it is a safe bet they are doing exactly what the are telling the rest of us is evil..

These are the people we should look to for leader ship an inspiration??

But the right wing will in all probability reelect the scum of the earth as if they were sent by their exclusive god up above..

This turd is one of my favs..



In early September, the Republican House member admitted to an extramarital affair with a "personal friend" following the unsealing of divorce records that showed he had been involved in a relationship with Shannon Edwards, a forensic psychologist.
"This is nobody's fault but my own, and I offer no excuses," Murphy said in a statement issued through his attorney, The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported. "To the extent that there should be any blame in this matter, it falls solely upon me."
It got much, much worse on Tuesday when the Post-Gazette reported on a text message exchange between Edwards and Murphy in which she alleges he urged her to have an a******n.
"And you have zero issue posting your pro-life stance all over the place when you had no issue asking me to abort our unborn child just last week when we thought that was one of the options," wrote Edwards in the text obtained by the Post-Gazette.

A text reply sent from Murphy's phone read: "I get what you say about my March for life messages. I've never written them. Staff does them. I read them and winced. I told staff don't write any more. I will."
Edwards was not ultimately pregnant.
Murphy's personal foibles are not the point here. What is the point is that he is someone who has been an outspoken critic of a******n rights in his public life even while apparently being much more willing to consider it when it impacts him personally.
Murphy was a co-sponsor of legislation -- passed in the House on Tuesday night -- that would make it illegal for women to abort a baby after the 20-week mark. He has a perfect 100% score with National Right to Life, having v**ed with the organization on five key pieces of legislation, including the "No Taxpayer Funding for A******ns Act." As my former Washington Post colleague Aaron Blake expertly documents here, Murphy was also touting his anti-a******n stance even as he was reportedly urging his mistress to seek an a******n.
This is hypocrisy of the worst sort. Murphy does one thing in his public life as an elected official and something very, very different in his private life. It's literally a do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do situation.
And it's what people, rightly, h**e about politics. The sense that politicians don't think the rules apply to them. The idea that all politicians are lying liars who have one position in public and a totally contradictory one in private. That they don't really believe anything they are saying.
It's those feelings which play a major part in the terrible image people hold of Washington these days. In a September CNN poll, just 20% of people approved of the job Republican leaders are doing in Congress; 32% approved of Democratic leaders in Congress. Less than three in 10 had a favorable opinion of the Republican Party in that same poll, the lowest mark ever recorded in CNN data.
It's that dissatisfaction, distrust and disdain that gave us Donald Trump. Trump blasted politicians -- in both parties -- as ineffective losers. So deep was peoples' dislike for traditional politicians that they were willing to take a massive risk -- and, make no mistake, they knew it was a major risk -- on Trump as president.
When you see a politician like Murphy, you can see why. Not all politicians are like him. Most aren't. But he is a classic bad apple spoiling the bunch.
His office has not commented on this latest report on text messages. Murphy was unopposed for re-e******n in 2016 and he sits in a district in western Pennsylvania that gave Trump a 17-point margin.
But this is the real conundrum of US politics. If past is prologue, there's a real chance Murphy will win again. Just before the 2012 e******n, reports came out that Tennessee Rep. Scott DesJarlais, a Republican opponent of a******n rights, had urged his pregnant mistress to get an a******n. He won. In the wake of that e******n, much more came out -- including the fact that DesJarlais and his ex-wife had mutually agreed she have two a******ns. He faced a serious primary challenge in 2014 -- but won. DesJarlais was re-elected to a 4th term with 6
5% in 2016.
That's the reality of our politics. And why so many people h**e it so much.
We all know that the Republican/right wingers in c... (show quote)
That's one hell of a job of projection, frosty. You liberals just cannot be honest about the extremes of your ideology, can you?

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Oct 4, 2017 21:20:55   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
YOu two guys should both try and read all of this little bit..

It will explain to you why the orange man owns you and holds you by the balls..

Following the explosive report that President Donald Trump leaned on then-FBI director James Comey to go easy on former national security adviser Michael Flynn—and the explosive report that Trump’s t***sition team knew Flynn was under FBI investigation when Trump tapped him to be his top national security aide—an increasing number of congressional Republicans have begun to accept the need for full-scale investigations along with the appointment of Robert Mueller as the new special counsel to examine the Trump-Russia affair. But party leaders have not reached the point where they are willing to truly confront the scandal-plagued president. The GOP establishment can’t and won’t thoroughly challenge Trump over the assorted controversies brewing within his chaotic administration. To do so would risk a nuclear civil war that could blow their party to smithereens.

Ever since Trump moved into the White House, liberals (and others) have plaintively asked, why aren’t Republicans fiercely investigating Trump and his crew and seeking to hold them accountable for various instances of improbity? There’s been plenty to choose from: the Trump-Russia scandal, the smorgasbord of financial conflicts of interests involving Trump and his family members in and out of government, other possible ethics violations (including nepotistic hiring), the ever-widening Michael Flynn affair, and so on. In the wake of Trump’s firing of Comey, the guy in charge of a FBI investigation that could land on Trump’s doorstep, and the subsequent report (denied by the White House) that Trump pressured Comey on Flynn, some GOPers on Capitol Hill have gently called for probes into these matters. But by and large, Republican leaders have not dared to take on Trump vigorously. “The last thing I’m going to do is pre-judge anything,” House Speaker Paul Ryan said Wednesday.

One reason Republicans have been reticent to criticize Trump is obvious: they care more about working with—that is, using—Trump to attain their most beloved policy desires: generous tax breaks for the wealthy, draconian budget cuts for government programs (including those that assist low- and middle-income Americans), and the repeal-and-replace-or-wh**ever of Obamacare. But there’s a related reason: if congressional Republicans were to challenge Trump in forceful fashion, it could destroy the GOP.

Pop quiz: who’s the most vengeful politician on the scene today? Yes, it’s Trump. As I reported before E******n Day, Trump is completely obsessed with revenge. For years, Trump often said in paid speeches that a key to success is that you have to be a merciless SOB when dealing with foes. Here’s how he spelled it out: “Get even with people. If they screw you, screw them back 10 times as hard. I really believe it.” Another time, he elaborated:

One of the things you should do in terms of success: If somebody hits you, you’ve got to hit ’em back five times harder than they ever thought possible. You’ve got to get even. Get even. And the reason, the reason you do, is so important…The reason you do, you have to do it, because if they do that to you, you have to leave a telltale sign that they just can’t take advantage of you. It’s not so much for the person, which does make you feel good, to be honest with you, I’ve done it many times. But other people watch and you know they say, “Well, let’s leave Trump alone,” or “Let’s leave this one,” or “Doris, let’s leave her alone. They fight too hard.” I say it, and it’s so important. You have to, you have to hit back. You have to hit back.

With the president showing signs of narcissism and paranoia—on Tuesday, he declared, “No politician in history…has been treated worse or more unfairly” than he has been—Republican politicians who dare to confront Trump can expect to be targeted and mowed down by Trump.

Prior to the recent Comey and Flynn controversies, many GOPers were scared of Trump. A House Democrat a few weeks ago told me of a conversation he had with a Republican colleague whom he was close to persuading to sponsor a piece of legislation that would likely be popular in the GOPer’s district but not fancied by the Trump White House. “I just can’t do it,” the Republican finally admitted to the Democrat. “He’ll come after me on Twitter.” The wrath of Trump was something this Republican feared deeply—just over a policy disagreement.

Imagine if Republicans squared off against Trump regarding a matter involving his integrity—or one that could pose an existential threat to his presidency. (Examining the Comey issues as possible acts of obstruction of justice could well lead to the question of impeachment.) Trump certainly would not consider such action kindly. And if he were going to screw them back 10 times as hard, what would that mean for congressional Republicans?

It would be quite improbable that a raging and revenge-seeking Trump would be able to collaborate with Republicans on legislative priorities. What would be more important for Trump: working with Republicans to achieve tax reform or extracting payback?

If the going gets tougher, Trump will insist on fealty from his fellow Republicans. Yet if some opt to join the forces of investigation, a dividing line would be created within the party: you’re with Trump, or you’re not. Of course, Trump and his minions would be keeping score. During the the first and chaotic effort of House Republicans to gut Obamacare, the Trump White House considered compiling an enemies list of those GOPers who opposed the Trump-backed bill. Republicans who threatened his presidency could expect much worse than being placed on a roster of unfriendlies.

This is far more than an inside-Washington affair. Trump’s base is the party’s base. Despite all the screw-ups, false assertions, broken promises, and flip-flops of Trump’s still young (but exhausting) presidency, he remains hugely popular among Republicans—84 percent of Republicans still approve of Trump in the latest Gallup poll—who presumably buy his “f**e news” attacks on media reports that cast him as an autocratic, t***h-challenged, and bumbling president. If Republicans on Capitol Hill turn against Trump they could well encounter the fury of their most dependable v**ers. In the fight for the soul of the party, could GOP leaders (Washington insiders!) best the demagogic Trump? Sen. Mitch McConnell or Rep. Paul Ryan would be no match for him. The idea of a President Pence would likely be little consolation for the base during a clash between Republicans and Trump.

The Republican establishment has already demonstrated that political calculations, not principles, are its driving force. And one calculation is easy to process: if the GOP breaks rank with Trump on any of these scandals, there will be no turning back. An irate (and irrational?) Trump would demand retribution. A base already suspicious of GOP insiders could become furious. Tax cuts and the like would be at risk. The party itself would be endangered. Of course, as is so often noted, if the Republicans start to feel Trump-related e*******l pain—say, they lose one of the upcoming special House e******ns in GOP-leaning districts—they might reevaluate their situational loyalty to Trump. But the smart ones know the costs of such a course—even if necessary for survival—could be exceedingly high.

There is no good answer for congressional Republicans facing the dilemma of what to do about Trump. They long ago decided to lash themselves to a man with a decades-long record of dishonesty, arrogance, bullying, sleazy deal-making, and score-settling. There are no easy escape routes. No convenient off-ramps. No lifeboats on this ship. He made the bed, and they leaped into it. (Oh, Donald!) Now they’re screwed. The old cliché is that you don’t go after the king unless you can k**l the king. But for Republicans, the situation is worse that that: it may not be possible for them to battle their king without razing their kingdom.
YOu two guys should both try and read all of this ... (show quote)


If you read that entire rant you need a life.

How do you wake up every morning looking for new ways to h**e?

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Oct 4, 2017 21:36:03   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
permafrost wrote:
We all know that the Republican/right wingers in congress are the most hypocritical in history.

If they are sitting on a toilet seat practicing a "wide stance", or telling the rest of America how to live their lives, it is a safe bet they are doing exactly what the are telling the rest of us is evil..

These are the people we should look to for leader ship an inspiration??

But the right wing will in all probability reelect the scum of the earth as if they were sent by their exclusive god up above..

This turd is one of my favs..



In early September, the Republican House member admitted to an extramarital affair with a "personal friend" following the unsealing of divorce records that showed he had been involved in a relationship with Shannon Edwards, a forensic psychologist.
"This is nobody's fault but my own, and I offer no excuses," Murphy said in a statement issued through his attorney, The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported. "To the extent that there should be any blame in this matter, it falls solely upon me."
It got much, much worse on Tuesday when the Post-Gazette reported on a text message exchange between Edwards and Murphy in which she alleges he urged her to have an a******n.
"And you have zero issue posting your pro-life stance all over the place when you had no issue asking me to abort our unborn child just last week when we thought that was one of the options," wrote Edwards in the text obtained by the Post-Gazette.

A text reply sent from Murphy's phone read: "I get what you say about my March for life messages. I've never written them. Staff does them. I read them and winced. I told staff don't write any more. I will."
Edwards was not ultimately pregnant.
Murphy's personal foibles are not the point here. What is the point is that he is someone who has been an outspoken critic of a******n rights in his public life even while apparently being much more willing to consider it when it impacts him personally.
Murphy was a co-sponsor of legislation -- passed in the House on Tuesday night -- that would make it illegal for women to abort a baby after the 20-week mark. He has a perfect 100% score with National Right to Life, having v**ed with the organization on five key pieces of legislation, including the "No Taxpayer Funding for A******ns Act." As my former Washington Post colleague Aaron Blake expertly documents here, Murphy was also touting his anti-a******n stance even as he was reportedly urging his mistress to seek an a******n.
This is hypocrisy of the worst sort. Murphy does one thing in his public life as an elected official and something very, very different in his private life. It's literally a do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do situation.
And it's what people, rightly, h**e about politics. The sense that politicians don't think the rules apply to them. The idea that all politicians are lying liars who have one position in public and a totally contradictory one in private. That they don't really believe anything they are saying.
It's those feelings which play a major part in the terrible image people hold of Washington these days. In a September CNN poll, just 20% of people approved of the job Republican leaders are doing in Congress; 32% approved of Democratic leaders in Congress. Less than three in 10 had a favorable opinion of the Republican Party in that same poll, the lowest mark ever recorded in CNN data.
It's that dissatisfaction, distrust and disdain that gave us Donald Trump. Trump blasted politicians -- in both parties -- as ineffective losers. So deep was peoples' dislike for traditional politicians that they were willing to take a massive risk -- and, make no mistake, they knew it was a major risk -- on Trump as president.
When you see a politician like Murphy, you can see why. Not all politicians are like him. Most aren't. But he is a classic bad apple spoiling the bunch.
His office has not commented on this latest report on text messages. Murphy was unopposed for re-e******n in 2016 and he sits in a district in western Pennsylvania that gave Trump a 17-point margin.
But this is the real conundrum of US politics. If past is prologue, there's a real chance Murphy will win again. Just before the 2012 e******n, reports came out that Tennessee Rep. Scott DesJarlais, a Republican opponent of a******n rights, had urged his pregnant mistress to get an a******n. He won. In the wake of that e******n, much more came out -- including the fact that DesJarlais and his ex-wife had mutually agreed she have two a******ns. He faced a serious primary challenge in 2014 -- but won. DesJarlais was re-elected to a 4th term with 6
5% in 2016.
That's the reality of our politics. And why so many people h**e it so much.
We all know that the Republican/right wingers in c... (show quote)


That's why the "righty" politicians have been eating Dems for lunch in small town, county and state e******ns for the last three e******n cycles.

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Oct 4, 2017 22:47:24   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
BigMike wrote:
That's why the "righty" politicians have been eating Dems for lunch in small town, county and state e******ns for the last three e******n cycles.



-----and---- they have only begin to kick the Dems arses all over the country.

Anyone know where frosty can get another load of valium? The poor thing is really falling apart.

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Oct 4, 2017 23:01:47   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
-----and---- they have only begin to kick the Dems arses all over the country.

Anyone know where frosty can get another load of valium? The poor thing is really falling apart.


Well, they are solidifying their support in a few of the most heavily populated districts in large cities.

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Oct 5, 2017 00:20:05   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
permafrost wrote:
YOu two guys should both try and read all of this little bit..

It will explain to you why the orange man owns you and holds you by the balls..

Following the explosive report that President Donald Trump leaned on then-FBI director James Comey to go easy on former national security adviser Michael Flynn—and the explosive report that Trump’s t***sition team knew Flynn was under FBI investigation when Trump tapped him to be his top national security aide—an increasing number of congressional Republicans have begun to accept the need for full-scale investigations along with the appointment of Robert Mueller as the new special counsel to examine the Trump-Russia affair. But party leaders have not reached the point where they are willing to truly confront the scandal-plagued president. The GOP establishment can’t and won’t thoroughly challenge Trump over the assorted controversies brewing within his chaotic administration. To do so would risk a nuclear civil war that could blow their party to smithereens.

Ever since Trump moved into the White House, liberals (and others) have plaintively asked, why aren’t Republicans fiercely investigating Trump and his crew and seeking to hold them accountable for various instances of improbity? There’s been plenty to choose from: the Trump-Russia scandal, the smorgasbord of financial conflicts of interests involving Trump and his family members in and out of government, other possible ethics violations (including nepotistic hiring), the ever-widening Michael Flynn affair, and so on. In the wake of Trump’s firing of Comey, the guy in charge of a FBI investigation that could land on Trump’s doorstep, and the subsequent report (denied by the White House) that Trump pressured Comey on Flynn, some GOPers on Capitol Hill have gently called for probes into these matters. But by and large, Republican leaders have not dared to take on Trump vigorously. “The last thing I’m going to do is pre-judge anything,” House Speaker Paul Ryan said Wednesday.

One reason Republicans have been reticent to criticize Trump is obvious: they care more about working with—that is, using—Trump to attain their most beloved policy desires: generous tax breaks for the wealthy, draconian budget cuts for government programs (including those that assist low- and middle-income Americans), and the repeal-and-replace-or-wh**ever of Obamacare. But there’s a related reason: if congressional Republicans were to challenge Trump in forceful fashion, it could destroy the GOP.

Pop quiz: who’s the most vengeful politician on the scene today? Yes, it’s Trump. As I reported before E******n Day, Trump is completely obsessed with revenge. For years, Trump often said in paid speeches that a key to success is that you have to be a merciless SOB when dealing with foes. Here’s how he spelled it out: “Get even with people. If they screw you, screw them back 10 times as hard. I really believe it.” Another time, he elaborated:

One of the things you should do in terms of success: If somebody hits you, you’ve got to hit ’em back five times harder than they ever thought possible. You’ve got to get even. Get even. And the reason, the reason you do, is so important…The reason you do, you have to do it, because if they do that to you, you have to leave a telltale sign that they just can’t take advantage of you. It’s not so much for the person, which does make you feel good, to be honest with you, I’ve done it many times. But other people watch and you know they say, “Well, let’s leave Trump alone,” or “Let’s leave this one,” or “Doris, let’s leave her alone. They fight too hard.” I say it, and it’s so important. You have to, you have to hit back. You have to hit back.

With the president showing signs of narcissism and paranoia—on Tuesday, he declared, “No politician in history…has been treated worse or more unfairly” than he has been—Republican politicians who dare to confront Trump can expect to be targeted and mowed down by Trump.

Prior to the recent Comey and Flynn controversies, many GOPers were scared of Trump. A House Democrat a few weeks ago told me of a conversation he had with a Republican colleague whom he was close to persuading to sponsor a piece of legislation that would likely be popular in the GOPer’s district but not fancied by the Trump White House. “I just can’t do it,” the Republican finally admitted to the Democrat. “He’ll come after me on Twitter.” The wrath of Trump was something this Republican feared deeply—just over a policy disagreement.

Imagine if Republicans squared off against Trump regarding a matter involving his integrity—or one that could pose an existential threat to his presidency. (Examining the Comey issues as possible acts of obstruction of justice could well lead to the question of impeachment.) Trump certainly would not consider such action kindly. And if he were going to screw them back 10 times as hard, what would that mean for congressional Republicans?

It would be quite improbable that a raging and revenge-seeking Trump would be able to collaborate with Republicans on legislative priorities. What would be more important for Trump: working with Republicans to achieve tax reform or extracting payback?

If the going gets tougher, Trump will insist on fealty from his fellow Republicans. Yet if some opt to join the forces of investigation, a dividing line would be created within the party: you’re with Trump, or you’re not. Of course, Trump and his minions would be keeping score. During the the first and chaotic effort of House Republicans to gut Obamacare, the Trump White House considered compiling an enemies list of those GOPers who opposed the Trump-backed bill. Republicans who threatened his presidency could expect much worse than being placed on a roster of unfriendlies.

This is far more than an inside-Washington affair. Trump’s base is the party’s base. Despite all the screw-ups, false assertions, broken promises, and flip-flops of Trump’s still young (but exhausting) presidency, he remains hugely popular among Republicans—84 percent of Republicans still approve of Trump in the latest Gallup poll—who presumably buy his “f**e news” attacks on media reports that cast him as an autocratic, t***h-challenged, and bumbling president. If Republicans on Capitol Hill turn against Trump they could well encounter the fury of their most dependable v**ers. In the fight for the soul of the party, could GOP leaders (Washington insiders!) best the demagogic Trump? Sen. Mitch McConnell or Rep. Paul Ryan would be no match for him. The idea of a President Pence would likely be little consolation for the base during a clash between Republicans and Trump.

The Republican establishment has already demonstrated that political calculations, not principles, are its driving force. And one calculation is easy to process: if the GOP breaks rank with Trump on any of these scandals, there will be no turning back. An irate (and irrational?) Trump would demand retribution. A base already suspicious of GOP insiders could become furious. Tax cuts and the like would be at risk. The party itself would be endangered. Of course, as is so often noted, if the Republicans start to feel Trump-related e*******l pain—say, they lose one of the upcoming special House e******ns in GOP-leaning districts—they might reevaluate their situational loyalty to Trump. But the smart ones know the costs of such a course—even if necessary for survival—could be exceedingly high.

There is no good answer for congressional Republicans facing the dilemma of what to do about Trump. They long ago decided to lash themselves to a man with a decades-long record of dishonesty, arrogance, bullying, sleazy deal-making, and score-settling. There are no easy escape routes. No convenient off-ramps. No lifeboats on this ship. He made the bed, and they leaped into it. (Oh, Donald!) Now they’re screwed. The old cliché is that you don’t go after the king unless you can k**l the king. But for Republicans, the situation is worse that that: it may not be possible for them to battle their king without razing their kingdom.
YOu two guys should both try and read all of this ... (show quote)



Yawn!

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Oct 5, 2017 04:26:22   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
-----and---- they have only begin to kick the Dems arses all over the country.

Anyone know where frosty can get another load of valium? The poor thing is really falling apart.


Are you sure it's Valium? I've been wondering if some of these Trump/Republican obsessed lunatics around here might be spiking their Metamucil with LSD.

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Oct 5, 2017 05:58:35   #
hotsh386
 
Hey Permafrost,is your Mother servicing those Donkey's in Tijuana? Just curious!!

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Oct 5, 2017 09:49:05   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
missinglink wrote:
Name of Shannon Edwards huh ! Any relations to one of your left wing runners of a few decades ago .
You know , John Edwards that used campaign funds to support his mistress while running for the White House .
Yes the worm does turn from time to time .
Then of course their is Wild Willy , JFK , Etc etc .
Whats your point . Infidelity is a non partisan affair . Most of the time .

If it were not for you being so thick you would be a good laugh .
Name of Shannon Edwards huh ! Any relations to one... (show quote)


"Infidelity is a non partisan affair" because Progressives have been screwing all Americans.

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