Democratic Congressman: Yes, My Party Is Out Of Touch
Oct 2, 2017 07:10:14 #
Yes, this has been something I've been waiting to hear from the Democratic Party! A little humility doesn't hurt, and maybe, this will set the stage for a more competitive Democratic Party.
Democratic Congressman: Yes, My Party Is Out Of Touch With V**ers, Even Those Who Used To Support Us
Matt Vespa
Last Friday, Massachusetts Democratic Congressman Seth Moulton appeared on MSNBC’s Morning Joe to pretty much reiterate what his Michigan colleague, Debbie Dingell, has been saying for months, which is that the Democratic Party has to listen to v**ers again. The wounds of the 2016 campaign are being re-opened thanks to Hillary Clinton’s new book, What Happened, in which the former first lady offers her account of the e******n. She also takes swipes at Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, the media, Barack Obama, James Comey, and sexism for torpedoing her p**********l hopes. It’s something the Democrats don't need right now, but alas—it happened. The divisions between the establishment and progressive wings of the party have been rehashed.
During the show, Moulton said that he feels the Democratic Party hasn’t learned anything from 2016, and that a true self-evaluation is still absent. He knows the game: The GOP controls the White House, Congress, two-thirds of the governorships, and 69/99 state legislatures. The party is in its worst shape since the 1920s. It’s not a national party. It’s not in a position to become a governing party. Moreover, he said that his party didn't just 2016, but several e******ns before that.
“If we don’t realize that we are partly to blame for that; that we’ve lost touch with a lot of American v**ers; we’ve lost touch with a lot of v**ers who used to be on our side—then, we’re not going to be able to move forward, “ he said.
Rep. Dingell has also said that to a certain degree, especially when it comes to the white working class bloc that k**led Clinton in the general e******n. Dingell said that Michigan was in play—her party thought she was nuts. Trump would go on to win the state. She knows these workers, and she saw how Trump resonated with them. They’re concerned about jobs, not Russia. She also lamented how identity politics has hijacked her party, which has widened the gap between the Democratic Party and everyone else. She also said she gets mad when people say that Trump supporters are r****t. She knows better; they’re not.
Moulton and Dingell may have the right ideas on how to get their party back on track. The issue is whether the rest of the Democratic Party wants to follow because this involves reaching out to Trump v**ers and other slices of the white working class demographic. The people who feel left behind. The people who v**ed for Obama twice and then flipped for Trump. There’s the insufferable urban-based professional wing of the Democratic Party that h**es these people, doesn’t care about them, and thinks they’re relics of an older world, and yes—r****t. In reality, they’re just hard-working Americans looking for ways to provide for their families.
My guess is that the vast majority of liberals don’t think they’re out of touch; it’s just that the rest of us are wrong. That’s fine. They’ll keep losing. There’s also an empathy gap with Democrats. And yes, until they recognize it—and much else–they’ll remain constrained to their urban strongholds, which isn’t enough to win national e******ns.
Democratic Congressman: Yes, My Party Is Out Of Touch With V**ers, Even Those Who Used To Support Us
Matt Vespa
Last Friday, Massachusetts Democratic Congressman Seth Moulton appeared on MSNBC’s Morning Joe to pretty much reiterate what his Michigan colleague, Debbie Dingell, has been saying for months, which is that the Democratic Party has to listen to v**ers again. The wounds of the 2016 campaign are being re-opened thanks to Hillary Clinton’s new book, What Happened, in which the former first lady offers her account of the e******n. She also takes swipes at Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, the media, Barack Obama, James Comey, and sexism for torpedoing her p**********l hopes. It’s something the Democrats don't need right now, but alas—it happened. The divisions between the establishment and progressive wings of the party have been rehashed.
During the show, Moulton said that he feels the Democratic Party hasn’t learned anything from 2016, and that a true self-evaluation is still absent. He knows the game: The GOP controls the White House, Congress, two-thirds of the governorships, and 69/99 state legislatures. The party is in its worst shape since the 1920s. It’s not a national party. It’s not in a position to become a governing party. Moreover, he said that his party didn't just 2016, but several e******ns before that.
“If we don’t realize that we are partly to blame for that; that we’ve lost touch with a lot of American v**ers; we’ve lost touch with a lot of v**ers who used to be on our side—then, we’re not going to be able to move forward, “ he said.
Rep. Dingell has also said that to a certain degree, especially when it comes to the white working class bloc that k**led Clinton in the general e******n. Dingell said that Michigan was in play—her party thought she was nuts. Trump would go on to win the state. She knows these workers, and she saw how Trump resonated with them. They’re concerned about jobs, not Russia. She also lamented how identity politics has hijacked her party, which has widened the gap between the Democratic Party and everyone else. She also said she gets mad when people say that Trump supporters are r****t. She knows better; they’re not.
Moulton and Dingell may have the right ideas on how to get their party back on track. The issue is whether the rest of the Democratic Party wants to follow because this involves reaching out to Trump v**ers and other slices of the white working class demographic. The people who feel left behind. The people who v**ed for Obama twice and then flipped for Trump. There’s the insufferable urban-based professional wing of the Democratic Party that h**es these people, doesn’t care about them, and thinks they’re relics of an older world, and yes—r****t. In reality, they’re just hard-working Americans looking for ways to provide for their families.
My guess is that the vast majority of liberals don’t think they’re out of touch; it’s just that the rest of us are wrong. That’s fine. They’ll keep losing. There’s also an empathy gap with Democrats. And yes, until they recognize it—and much else–they’ll remain constrained to their urban strongholds, which isn’t enough to win national e******ns.
Oct 2, 2017 09:32:40 #
You would think every elected official would wake up to this thought, and go to sleep the same way. Now, the only thing that matters is getting elected, then getting re-elected.
Oct 2, 2017 09:45:29 #
private wrote:
You would think every elected official would wake up to this thought, and go to sleep the same way. Now, the only thing that matters is getting elected, then getting re-elected.
If you look at the county maps for the 2016 p**********l e******n the divide is glaringly obvious. Only the ant farms (big cities) came in for Clinton. So who's out of touch with reality and day to day life?
The only reason the dems got any v**es is because of liberal and/or entitled urban v**ers. When will the Democratic party understand that the main stream of America has no interest in being used for theirelitist social experiments.
Oct 2, 2017 09:59:05 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
Believe me they realize it. Why they are slowly bringing up the idea of doing away with the E*******l College.
debeda wrote:
If you look at the county maps for the 2016 p**********l e******n the divide is glaringly obvious. Only the ant farms (big cities) came in for Clinton. So who's out of touch with reality and day to day life?
The only reason the dems got any v**es is because of liberal and/or entitled urban v**ers. When will the Democratic party understand that the main stream of America has no interest in being used for theirelitist social experiments.
The only reason the dems got any v**es is because of liberal and/or entitled urban v**ers. When will the Democratic party understand that the main stream of America has no interest in being used for theirelitist social experiments.
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