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Sep 22, 2017 23:49:06   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Fahrenheit2017 wrote:
"ions"? Not protons, electrons, etc. (or even quarks), but ions?


Better than zircons, the're chintzy.

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Sep 23, 2017 14:33:39   #
Fahrenheit2017
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Took me ten seconds to find on Google.

Exodus 33:20

But He said, “You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!”


Assuming He has a face. Moses was being anthropomorphic, of course. Perhaps like ibn Tamiyyah.

The more primitive people to whom Moses was talking at that time, would have needed to be taught in simplistic, material and physical terms. They could no more understand that it is mankind's ability to sense the existence of a "future", an about-to-be, that is the reason Scripture states man was "made in God's image". Not in any material attribute.

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Sep 23, 2017 17:39:26   #
pappadeux Loc: Phoenix AZ
 
Fahrenheit2017 wrote:
Assuming He has a face. Moses was being anthropomorphic, of course. Perhaps like ibn Tamiyyah.

The more primitive people to whom Moses was talking at that time, would have needed to be taught in simplistic, material and physical terms. They could no more understand that it is mankind's ability to sense the existence of a "future", an about-to-be, that is the reason Scripture states man was "made in God's image". Not in any material attribute.
In simplest terms what God is saying " I got my eye on you"



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Sep 23, 2017 17:44:02   #
Fahrenheit2017
 
pappadeux wrote:
In simplest terms what God is saying " I got my eye on you"


Does He? Are humans that important to God? Does God have nothing to do but make sure mankind does not destroy himself? Inch Allah---God willing?

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Sep 27, 2017 09:44:32   #
Ve'hoe
 
when speaking to moses,,, moses requests to see him,, he hides him in the crevice of a mountain as he passes by,,,
so that moses will not die in his presence exodus 33:18-20


exodus 33:17
The Glory of the Lord
…17The LORD said to Moses, "I will also do this thing of which you have spoken; for you have found favor in My sight and I have known you by name." 18Then Moses said, "I pray You, show me Your glory!" 19And He said, "I Myself will make all My goodness pass before you, and will proclaim the name of the LORD before you; and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show compassion on whom I will show compassion."…

Exodus 33:20 And he said, You can not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

Fahrenheit2017 wrote:
When did He say that?

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Sep 27, 2017 09:46:03   #
Ve'hoe
 
indeed,,, that is why you have a conscience,,, without it we would be barbarians,,, without a single care


Fahrenheit2017 wrote:
Does He? Are humans that important to God? Does God have nothing to do but make sure mankind does not destroy himself? Inch Allah---God willing?

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Sep 29, 2017 12:33:53   #
Fahrenheit2017
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
when speaking to moses,,, moses requests to see him,, he hides him in the crevice of a mountain as he passes by,,,
so that moses will not die in his presence exodus 33:18-20


exodus 33:17
The Glory of the Lord
…17The LORD said to Moses, "I will also do this thing of which you have spoken; for you have found favor in My sight and I have known you by name." 18Then Moses said, "I pray You, show me Your glory!" 19And He said, "I Myself will make all My goodness pass before you, and will proclaim the name of the LORD before you; and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show compassion on whom I will show compassion."…

Exodus 33:20 And he said, You can not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
when speaking to moses,,, moses requests to see hi... (show quote)


Yet Jesus said: "He who sees me, sees God."

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Sep 29, 2017 12:36:56   #
Fahrenheit2017
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
indeed,,, that is why you have a conscience,,, without it we would be barbarians,,, without a single care


You are saying God has nothing to do but make sure the human species does not destroy itself?

You do realize that it is the height of arrogance to believe that the human species is alone in the universe? (This in answer to Arthur C. Clarke's quote: “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”

But then, because YOU have a superior religion, YOU are a superior man. No wonder God must want to save you. By k*****g his son.

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Sep 29, 2017 22:50:24   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Fahrenheit2017 wrote:
You are saying God has nothing to do but make sure the human species does not destroy itself?

You do realize that it is the height of arrogance to believe that the human species is alone in the universe? (This in answer to Arthur C. Clarke's quote: “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”

But then, because YOU have a superior religion, YOU are a superior man. No wonder God must want to save you. By k*****g his son.
You are saying God has nothing to do but make sure... (show quote)


What a twit you are kira. God didn't k**l his son, my ancestors did. Get yourself a better history text or any Bible.
Trust me you won't burst into flames if you touch it.

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Sep 30, 2017 12:26:18   #
Fahrenheit2017
 
pafret wrote:
What a twit you are kira. God didn't k**l his son, my ancestors did. Get yourself a better history text or any Bible.
Trust me you won't burst into flames if you touch it.


So Man can k**l God? Leave it to a Christian...

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Sep 30, 2017 12:34:29   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Fahrenheit2017 wrote:
So Man can k**l God? Leave it to a Christian...


This statment illustrates your profound ignorance of the dual nature of Jesus Christ. Actually it better illustrates what a pismire troll you are Kira Seer. Go back to Russia with the rest of your atheistic compatriots.

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Sep 30, 2017 12:46:25   #
Fahrenheit2017
 
pafret wrote:
This statment illustrates your profound ignorance of the dual nature of Jesus Christ. Actually it better illustrates what a pismire troll you are Kira Seer. Go back to Russia with the rest of your atheistic compatriots.


Apparently you did not have a chance to read my comment on why God cannot take on human characteristics, under my alias: KiraSeer2016.

Can't find it right now, but goes something like this (I dumbed it down somewhat so you can understand it): Since mankind lives in the ever-becoming space-time-material reality, and God doesn't change, ever, then God cannot be made into something that, as the classical Greeks would have it, is "corruptible", (meaning "changing into something else").

You really should read all my posts, and those of both CarolSeer and KiraSeer, before you try to refute me. You insist on making a fool out of yourself. In fact, why don't you start by re-reading your own post. Because you cannot refute me, you resort to "ad hominem" attacks, to use a euphemism.

Here's a question for you: Must I be a Christian to enjoy God's love?

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Sep 30, 2017 18:47:47   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Fahrenheit2017 wrote:
Apparently you did not have a chance to read my comment on why God cannot take on human characteristics, under my alias: KiraSeer2016.

Can't find it right now, but goes something like this (I dumbed it down somewhat so you can understand it): Since mankind lives in the ever-becoming space-time-material reality, and God doesn't change, ever, then God cannot be made into something that, as the classical Greeks would have it, is "corruptible", (meaning "changing into something else").

You really should read all my posts, and those of both CarolSeer and KiraSeer, before you try to refute me. You insist on making a fool out of yourself. In fact, why don't you start by re-reading your own post. Because you cannot refute me, you resort to "ad hominem" attacks, to use a euphemism.

Here's a question for you: Must I be a Christian to enjoy God's love?
Apparently you did not have a chance to read my c... (show quote)


Who bothers to refute a troll and why do you find it necessary to post under so many pseudonyms? Are you admins paramour that he allows you to assume so many identities?

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Oct 1, 2017 15:30:27   #
KiraSeer2016
 
pafret wrote:
Who bothers to refute a troll and why do you find it necessary to post under so many pseudonyms? Are you admins paramour that he allows you to assume so many identities?


Exactly. Why even bother to read my posts. You just might learn something. And that could hurt you. You might have to let go of any or all immature thinking you have absorbed in your life.

By the way, as I've warned other posters on this forum--Glaucon, for one; be careful how you respond to me. There are those who find it d********g.

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Oct 1, 2017 16:09:47   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
KiraSeer2016 wrote:
Exactly. Why even bother to read my posts. You just might learn something. And that could hurt you. You might have to let go of any or all immature thinking you have absorbed in your life.

By the way, as I've warned other posters on this forum--Glaucon, for one; be careful how you respond to me. There are those who find it d********g.


Ordinarily I wouildn't bother but you keep shifting identifirers. Be careful in making threats, there are those who become extremely irritated when threatened and have the means and will to do something about those threats.

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