Richard Rowland

It's a beautiful day, and rather than sitting in the house writing, here, on OPP, I should be outside enjoying the day and doing something constructive. However, what I have just watched is unsettling, and I feel compelled to express my views for wh**ever they're worth. I'll come right to the point: I'm convinced that 9-11 was an inside false f**g job carried out by Z*****t Jews, with some of our government's leaders knowledge.

I watched a U-tube interview with the author of the book: "Methodical Illusion," by Rebecca Roth. I am, also, at present, reading: "Solving 9-11," by Christopher Bollyn. Rebecca Roth was an airline stewardess for many years and who, according to her account, just missed by a few hours of being on one of the planes used in the deception.

I won't go into detail regarding Rebecca's U-tube interview, those interest can Google it for themselves. Rebecca's conclusion of events is both enlighting and horrifying. One has to question what callous, inhumane, and malicious minds could conceive a polt where so many innocent lives are lost through the act of nothing less than mass premeditated murder. That question can be answered by reviewing the acts of terrorism, and loss of innocent lives, by those responsible, when the creation of the State of Isreal was being implemented.

I suppose, no nation has the heightened sense of morality, it would take, for abstaining from these types of acts, if it were decided it was in the best interests of their nation, certainly not certain leaders of America, nor the Z*****ts, who plotted this horrific act.

What is, also, interesting is the gold bars and other, massive, monetary wealth gone missing from the towers. If it wasn't a preplanned operation, why did the gold disappear? Reading Christopher Bollyn's book, "Solving 9-11," one learns of computer programs designed by Israelis that found their way into many government agencies. It doesn't take much imagination to conclude the advantages provided by having one's software inserted into those areas.

The, unfortunate, issue here is that most Americans' have no idea about what really t***spired regarding 9-11. Nor did I, it wasn't until this issue was raised here on OPP, that, I had a clue things weren't as the official reports indicated, and I began acquiring more information on the subject.

What Rebecca discovered has left her with a sick feeling in the pit of her stomach, as it should any person, when made aware of the real circumstances behind 9-ll.

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

So now you're anti-Semantic too?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Methodical Creation of a Methodical Illusion: The t***h about Rebekah Roth

This sums up the The Conspiracy Industry quite well.

Richard Rowland

I have no doubt that anyone pointing out the inconsistencies, in the official report, will be derided as conspiracy wackos, antisemitic, and worse. However, the act of 9-11 was a sophisticated plan that wasn't, nor could it have been, concocted and carried out from a cave. One of the things that made this deception work was that large-scale military simulations were being conducted. How would those hiding in caves have access to that information?

However, those whose software was being used by the military would know everything. It's to no one's advantage that the t***h is being withheld, except for those responsible.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Who was hiding in a cave? Khalid Sheikh Mohammed first presented the idea for the September 11 plot to bin Laden in 1996 in Afghanistan. Nothing was done with it until 1998. In late 1998 or early 1999, bin Laden summoned Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to Kandahar and gave approval for him to go forward with the plot.

Then, in the spring of 1999, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (Al Qaeda's military commander), Osama bin Laden, and his deputy Mohammed Atef held a series of meetings in which they finalized the plan. KSM took charge of the operation and over the next two years, he, Osama bin Laden along with other members of Al Qaeda, refined the plan, recruited the attackers, trained them, set up the financing. Mohammed Atta was appointed the field commander. The ball was in Atta's hands.

In a sense, the attack was a military operation; the general and his staff work out the plan, subordinates are assigned to train and equip those who will carry out the attack, and the field commander leads the attack. Once the plan goes operational, it is out of the general's hands.

In January, 2000, the first two of the twenty terrorists, Nawaf al-Hazmi, Khalid al-Mihdhar, arrived in Los Angeles and by early 2001, all of them were in the United States. During this time, the attackers continued pr********ns and training, including gym workouts to stay in shape. Three weeks before the attacks, KSM selected the targets from a list of ten and Atta was notified. He was given the date of the attack three days in advance.

The plan was brilliant in its simplicity, it was by no means "sophisticated". Al Qaeda was not burdened with the expense of a sophisticated or complex operation. (Total cost was estimated at around $500,000) They did not face the logistics of smuggling weapons or any heavy gear into the US, they had powerful weapons waiting for them at airports in Boston, Washington DC, and Newark. All they needed to access them were nineteen flight tickets.

Osama bin Laden DID NOT micromanage the operation from a cave in A-stan. And, not until well after the attacks was he compelled to hide from the forces sent to find him. Beginning in 1995, attempts were made to arrest or k**l him, but not until after the 9/11 attack did the effort go forward in earnest.

FYI: NORAD and the DoD conducts training exercises year round, those taking place on 9/11 were neither "large scale" or unusual.

Pointing out inconsistencies in the official reports is one thing, no problem asking some questions, but manufacturing a conspiracy out of whole cloth is entirely another, and those that have done this are definitely whackos. Moreover, it is irrefutably true that anti-Semites have joined the 9/11 conspiracy movement with their own version based entirely on hatred of Jews and Israel.

Richard Rowland

Answer just this one question, if you can. Who were the jubilant witnesses filming from another building, when the towers came down?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Ah, geez, are you looking for a straw man? Can't respond directly to my post?

"jubilant witnesses"?

Do we really have to wade through the "five dancing Israelis" tale again? Conspiracy theorists had a field day with that one. Thanks to the penchant for liberal media to sensationalize every story they get their hands on, the "dancing Israelis" became an urban legend, and just another notch in the conspiracy theorists" gun..

FBI agents stopped five young men in a white van crossing the George Washington Bridge. The group had been spotted snapping photos of the burning Twin Towers from the roof of their van by onlookers on the Jersey side of the bridge, who had contacted authorities. The five men were Israelis who worked for Urban Moving Systems, a household moving company that operated in New York and New Jersey.

The NYT pointed out that contemporary news reports left “the wide impression that the authorities had detained a group of suspicious men taking pictures or rooting for the terrorists from the New Jersey side of the bridge.” Those reports also were exaggerated and perpetuated on fringe blogs that took to calling the men the “dancing Israelis.”

The five Israelis were held for 27 days at Brooklyn’s Metropolitan Detention Center while the FBI investigated. The FBI found that none of them had any connection whatsoever to the 9/11 attacks. They were subsequently released and deported for overstaying their visas.

Alex Jones, America's most notorious conspiracy nut blew the story way out of proportion and coined the term "dancing Israelis." Online and on the air, Jones breathlessly and stridently champions a litany of absurdities. In fact, on Thursday, September 9, 2015, 14 years after 9/11, Jones interviewed author Rebekah Roth about her new book "Methodical Deception". Roth has never been interviewed by anyone other than fringe conspiracy hacks--Prison Planet, Caravan to midnight, Off Planet media, Quantum Matrix Radio, and the like.

Oh yeah, conspiracy theorists breed like rabbits. Just when you think they've reached their limits they hatch another brood. Visit the comment section for any 9/11 conspiracy youtube and you will find no shortage of arrogant, nasty, brainwashed fools spewing some of the most obscene ideas that rival science fiction porn.

Richard Rowland

Blade Runner, you pop up every time this subject is discussed. Most would find that, to be more than a coincidence. And, your many paragraphs offering alternative reasons why it didn't happen the way we misguided conspiracy wack jobs think it could have happened, is also telling. The adage: He protests too much, fits you to a tee.

Radiance3

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Lucrative business on conspiracy theories never ends. It is a multi-million dollar making machines in collaboration with wealthy Arab Muslims, who wanted to cover-up their crimes. To begin with, they had their own people, 19 of them who came to the US to learn pilot training for that very purpose. Was there any remnant of those Arab pilot students? No, they were all dead, after hijacking, the Delta and United Airlines.

Delta and United Airlines testified that their airlines were hijacked by the Arab men, who trained as pilots in the US. They were dressed like Western people for camouf**ge and deceptions. Muslims are very famous for deceptions, as one of their commandments in Quran. Dying for k*****g Christians or infidels, their god rewards them with virgins in heaven. And when Muslims k**l many, they are rewarded the title of prophet of their god.

Wives and families of the flight 93 have records of their conversations with their husbands when about to wrestle with the hijackers to stop the plane from going further. Perhaps the hijackers destination was the WH, and Congress. Those heroes who wrestled with the hijackers did stop the flight 93, thus the airline dropped at the Pennsylvania country side.

Richard Rowland

The ideal situation for hiding one's culpability is exactly what is taking place. Everyone has an opinion. still, someone has pegged it correctly, however, due to all the fog surrounding this issue, we will never know whose conclusion is the correct one. If the real t***h was revealed today, no one would accept it, for, at this point, the water has been muddied beyond any believable revelation.