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Sep 14, 2017 18:45:38   #
shortbeans
 
First this is my first post. Have been reading other post for quite some time. Thought it may be time to share my two cents.
About me, semi retired farmer, served in the Navy 70-74. Three cruises to Nam. Over my young adult life to current I have been involved in or have viewed some very interesting things that most would not even think was the norm.
In my opinion, one of the first thing one needs to do, is have a understanding of why events have happened the way they have. So to get this understanding a good book to read is "Misinformation" written by an ex KGB agent found on Amazon if one would like to purchase

Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism

The highest-ranking Soviet bloc intelligence official ever to defect to the West, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa is at it again. A quarter century ago, in his international bestseller Red Horizons, Pacepa exposed the massive crimes and corruption of his former boss, Romanian President Nicolae Ceausescu, giving the dictator a nervous breakdown and inspiring him to send assassination squads to the U.S. to find his former spy chief and k**l him. They failed. On Christmas Day 1989, Ceausescu was executed by his own people at the end of a trial whose accusations came almost word-for-word out of Red Horizons. Today, still living undercover in the United States, the man credited by the CIA as the only person in the Western world who single-handedly demolished an entire enemy espionage service--the one he himself managed--takes aim at an even bigger target: the exotic, widely misunderstood but still astonishingly influential realm of the Russian-born science of disinformation. Indeed, within these pages, Pacepa, along with his co-author, historian and law professor Ronald Rychlak, expose some of the most consequential yet largely unknown disinformation campaigns of our lifetime. The rest of the excerpt is on the Amazon page about the book

The first few chapters really rang home with me. Found it really interesting how someone could write about our current events, many years prior to them happening

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Sep 14, 2017 18:51:23   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
shortbeans wrote:
First this is my first post. Have been reading other post for quite some time. Thought it may be time to share my two cents.
About me, semi retired farmer, served in the Navy 70-74. Three cruises to Nam. Over my young adult life to current I have been involved in or have viewed some very interesting things that most would not even think was the norm.
In my opinion, one of the first thing one needs to do, is have a understanding of why events have happened the way they have. So to get this understanding a good book to read is "Misinformation" written by an ex KGB agent found on Amazon if one would like to purchase

Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism

The highest-ranking Soviet bloc intelligence official ever to defect to the West, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa is at it again. A quarter century ago, in his international bestseller Red Horizons, Pacepa exposed the massive crimes and corruption of his former boss, Romanian President Nicolae Ceausescu, giving the dictator a nervous breakdown and inspiring him to send assassination squads to the U.S. to find his former spy chief and k**l him. They failed. On Christmas Day 1989, Ceausescu was executed by his own people at the end of a trial whose accusations came almost word-for-word out of Red Horizons. Today, still living undercover in the United States, the man credited by the CIA as the only person in the Western world who single-handedly demolished an entire enemy espionage service--the one he himself managed--takes aim at an even bigger target: the exotic, widely misunderstood but still astonishingly influential realm of the Russian-born science of disinformation. Indeed, within these pages, Pacepa, along with his co-author, historian and law professor Ronald Rychlak, expose some of the most consequential yet largely unknown disinformation campaigns of our lifetime. The rest of the excerpt is on the Amazon page about the book

The first few chapters really rang home with me. Found it really interesting how someone could write about our current events, many years prior to them happening
First this is my first post. Have been reading ot... (show quote)


Welcome to OPP,Shortbeans.....Very interesting post, Hope to read more of your posts on here

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Sep 14, 2017 19:08:37   #
shortbeans
 
tks

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Sep 14, 2017 19:24:36   #
son of witless
 
shortbeans wrote:
First this is my first post. Have been reading other post for quite some time. Thought it may be time to share my two cents.
About me, semi retired farmer, served in the Navy 70-74. Three cruises to Nam. Over my young adult life to current I have been involved in or have viewed some very interesting things that most would not even think was the norm.
In my opinion, one of the first thing one needs to do, is have a understanding of why events have happened the way they have. So to get this understanding a good book to read is "Misinformation" written by an ex KGB agent found on Amazon if one would like to purchase

Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism

The highest-ranking Soviet bloc intelligence official ever to defect to the West, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa is at it again. A quarter century ago, in his international bestseller Red Horizons, Pacepa exposed the massive crimes and corruption of his former boss, Romanian President Nicolae Ceausescu, giving the dictator a nervous breakdown and inspiring him to send assassination squads to the U.S. to find his former spy chief and k**l him. They failed. On Christmas Day 1989, Ceausescu was executed by his own people at the end of a trial whose accusations came almost word-for-word out of Red Horizons. Today, still living undercover in the United States, the man credited by the CIA as the only person in the Western world who single-handedly demolished an entire enemy espionage service--the one he himself managed--takes aim at an even bigger target: the exotic, widely misunderstood but still astonishingly influential realm of the Russian-born science of disinformation. Indeed, within these pages, Pacepa, along with his co-author, historian and law professor Ronald Rychlak, expose some of the most consequential yet largely unknown disinformation campaigns of our lifetime. The rest of the excerpt is on the Amazon page about the book

The first few chapters really rang home with me. Found it really interesting how someone could write about our current events, many years prior to them happening
First this is my first post. Have been reading ot... (show quote)


Feel free to post on your knowledge of these subjects. Many of us would love to bounce our opinions off someone of your knowledge and experience.

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Sep 14, 2017 19:39:37   #
dangerkitten061 Loc: Arizona
 
shortbeans wrote:
First this is my first post. Have been reading other post for quite some time. Thought it may be time to share my two cents.
About me, semi retired farmer, served in the Navy 70-74. Three cruises to Nam. Over my young adult life to current I have been involved in or have viewed some very interesting things that most would not even think was the norm.
In my opinion, one of the first thing one needs to do, is have a understanding of why events have happened the way they have. So to get this understanding a good book to read is "Misinformation" written by an ex KGB agent found on Amazon if one would like to purchase

Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism

The highest-ranking Soviet bloc intelligence official ever to defect to the West, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa is at it again. A quarter century ago, in his international bestseller Red Horizons, Pacepa exposed the massive crimes and corruption of his former boss, Romanian President Nicolae Ceausescu, giving the dictator a nervous breakdown and inspiring him to send assassination squads to the U.S. to find his former spy chief and k**l him. They failed. On Christmas Day 1989, Ceausescu was executed by his own people at the end of a trial whose accusations came almost word-for-word out of Red Horizons. Today, still living undercover in the United States, the man credited by the CIA as the only person in the Western world who single-handedly demolished an entire enemy espionage service--the one he himself managed--takes aim at an even bigger target: the exotic, widely misunderstood but still astonishingly influential realm of the Russian-born science of disinformation. Indeed, within these pages, Pacepa, along with his co-author, historian and law professor Ronald Rychlak, expose some of the most consequential yet largely unknown disinformation campaigns of our lifetime. The rest of the excerpt is on the Amazon page about the book

The first few chapters really rang home with me. Found it really interesting how someone could write about our current events, many years prior to them happening
First this is my first post. Have been reading ot... (show quote)



Welcome shortbeans. Is the book you were referring to called misinformation or disinformation?

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Sep 14, 2017 19:49:32   #
teabag09
 
Back in 1962 a Russian sat before the UN, banged his shoe on the table and claimed that the United States would be taken down from within. He was a seer. Mike
shortbeans wrote:
First this is my first post. Have been reading other post for quite some time. Thought it may be time to share my two cents.
About me, semi retired farmer, served in the Navy 70-74. Three cruises to Nam. Over my young adult life to current I have been involved in or have viewed some very interesting things that most would not even think was the norm.
In my opinion, one of the first thing one needs to do, is have a understanding of why events have happened the way they have. So to get this understanding a good book to read is "Misinformation" written by an ex KGB agent found on Amazon if one would like to purchase

Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism

The highest-ranking Soviet bloc intelligence official ever to defect to the West, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa is at it again. A quarter century ago, in his international bestseller Red Horizons, Pacepa exposed the massive crimes and corruption of his former boss, Romanian President Nicolae Ceausescu, giving the dictator a nervous breakdown and inspiring him to send assassination squads to the U.S. to find his former spy chief and k**l him. They failed. On Christmas Day 1989, Ceausescu was executed by his own people at the end of a trial whose accusations came almost word-for-word out of Red Horizons. Today, still living undercover in the United States, the man credited by the CIA as the only person in the Western world who single-handedly demolished an entire enemy espionage service--the one he himself managed--takes aim at an even bigger target: the exotic, widely misunderstood but still astonishingly influential realm of the Russian-born science of disinformation. Indeed, within these pages, Pacepa, along with his co-author, historian and law professor Ronald Rychlak, expose some of the most consequential yet largely unknown disinformation campaigns of our lifetime. The rest of the excerpt is on the Amazon page about the book

The first few chapters really rang home with me. Found it really interesting how someone could write about our current events, many years prior to them happening
First this is my first post. Have been reading ot... (show quote)

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Sep 14, 2017 19:54:32   #
teabag09
 
Welcome aboard swabbie. You'll fit right in. It can get a little turbulent at times with short swells and heavy crests with an occasional rouge from the side but most of the time we ride into the wind and most of the men and women here rarely seek the leeside. Mike
shortbeans wrote:
First this is my first post. Have been reading other post for quite some time. Thought it may be time to share my two cents.
About me, semi retired farmer, served in the Navy 70-74. Three cruises to Nam. Over my young adult life to current I have been involved in or have viewed some very interesting things that most would not even think was the norm.
In my opinion, one of the first thing one needs to do, is have a understanding of why events have happened the way they have. So to get this understanding a good book to read is "Misinformation" written by an ex KGB agent found on Amazon if one would like to purchase

Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism

The highest-ranking Soviet bloc intelligence official ever to defect to the West, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa is at it again. A quarter century ago, in his international bestseller Red Horizons, Pacepa exposed the massive crimes and corruption of his former boss, Romanian President Nicolae Ceausescu, giving the dictator a nervous breakdown and inspiring him to send assassination squads to the U.S. to find his former spy chief and k**l him. They failed. On Christmas Day 1989, Ceausescu was executed by his own people at the end of a trial whose accusations came almost word-for-word out of Red Horizons. Today, still living undercover in the United States, the man credited by the CIA as the only person in the Western world who single-handedly demolished an entire enemy espionage service--the one he himself managed--takes aim at an even bigger target: the exotic, widely misunderstood but still astonishingly influential realm of the Russian-born science of disinformation. Indeed, within these pages, Pacepa, along with his co-author, historian and law professor Ronald Rychlak, expose some of the most consequential yet largely unknown disinformation campaigns of our lifetime. The rest of the excerpt is on the Amazon page about the book

The first few chapters really rang home with me. Found it really interesting how someone could write about our current events, many years prior to them happening
First this is my first post. Have been reading ot... (show quote)

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Sep 14, 2017 20:10:16   #
mongo Loc: TEXAS
 
shortbeans wrote:
First this is my first post. Have been reading other post for quite some time. Thought it may be time to share my two cents.
About me, semi retired farmer, served in the Navy 70-74. Three cruises to Nam. Over my young adult life to current I have been involved in or have viewed some very interesting things that most would not even think was the norm.
In my opinion, one of the first thing one needs to do, is have a understanding of why events have happened the way they have. So to get this understanding a good book to read is "Misinformation" written by an ex KGB agent found on Amazon if one would like to purchase

Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism

The highest-ranking Soviet bloc intelligence official ever to defect to the West, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa is at it again. A quarter century ago, in his international bestseller Red Horizons, Pacepa exposed the massive crimes and corruption of his former boss, Romanian President Nicolae Ceausescu, giving the dictator a nervous breakdown and inspiring him to send assassination squads to the U.S. to find his former spy chief and k**l him. They failed. On Christmas Day 1989, Ceausescu was executed by his own people at the end of a trial whose accusations came almost word-for-word out of Red Horizons. Today, still living undercover in the United States, the man credited by the CIA as the only person in the Western world who single-handedly demolished an entire enemy espionage service--the one he himself managed--takes aim at an even bigger target: the exotic, widely misunderstood but still astonishingly influential realm of the Russian-born science of disinformation. Indeed, within these pages, Pacepa, along with his co-author, historian and law professor Ronald Rychlak, expose some of the most consequential yet largely unknown disinformation campaigns of our lifetime. The rest of the excerpt is on the Amazon page about the book

The first few chapters really rang home with me. Found it really interesting how someone could write about our current events, many years prior to them happening
First this is my first post. Have been reading ot... (show quote)



Welcome shortbeans, very interesting information. Hope to hear more.

SEMPER FI

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Sep 14, 2017 20:27:57   #
shortbeans
 
Boy I must be getting old to miss that the book is called disinformation my apologies to you

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Sep 14, 2017 20:28:54   #
shortbeans
 
My apologies to everyone the book is called disinformation thank you in advance for your understanding

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Sep 14, 2017 21:59:07   #
teabag09
 
SB, when referring to anyone hit the Reply-quote tab and we will know who you are replying to. It make it easier to understand your response. Again, welcome aboard. Mikequote=shortbeans]My apologies to everyone the book is called disinformation thank you in advance for your understanding[/quote]

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Sep 15, 2017 12:34:00   #
Ricktloml
 
shortbeans wrote:
First this is my first post. Have been reading other post for quite some time. Thought it may be time to share my two cents.
About me, semi retired farmer, served in the Navy 70-74. Three cruises to Nam. Over my young adult life to current I have been involved in or have viewed some very interesting things that most would not even think was the norm.
In my opinion, one of the first thing one needs to do, is have a understanding of why events have happened the way they have. So to get this understanding a good book to read is "Misinformation" written by an ex KGB agent found on Amazon if one would like to purchase

Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism

The highest-ranking Soviet bloc intelligence official ever to defect to the West, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa is at it again. A quarter century ago, in his international bestseller Red Horizons, Pacepa exposed the massive crimes and corruption of his former boss, Romanian President Nicolae Ceausescu, giving the dictator a nervous breakdown and inspiring him to send assassination squads to the U.S. to find his former spy chief and k**l him. They failed. On Christmas Day 1989, Ceausescu was executed by his own people at the end of a trial whose accusations came almost word-for-word out of Red Horizons. Today, still living undercover in the United States, the man credited by the CIA as the only person in the Western world who single-handedly demolished an entire enemy espionage service--the one he himself managed--takes aim at an even bigger target: the exotic, widely misunderstood but still astonishingly influential realm of the Russian-born science of disinformation. Indeed, within these pages, Pacepa, along with his co-author, historian and law professor Ronald Rychlak, expose some of the most consequential yet largely unknown disinformation campaigns of our lifetime. The rest of the excerpt is on the Amazon page about the book

The first few chapters really rang home with me. Found it really interesting how someone could write about our current events, many years prior to them happening
First this is my first post. Have been reading ot... (show quote)

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Sep 15, 2017 12:36:24   #
Ricktloml
 
shortbeans wrote:
My apologies to everyone the book is called disinformation thank you in advance for your understanding


Welcome. Our laughably called main street media sure took the concept of both misinformation and disinformation to heart, as well as outright lying

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Sep 15, 2017 16:51:16   #
GmanTerry
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Welcome. Our laughably called main street media sure took the concept of both misinformation and disinformation to heart, as well as outright lying


Welcome Shortbeans. We are always open to another member of the Naval Services here.


Semper Fi

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