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Is Jimmy Carter Correct In His Approach To Solve The North Korea Problem?
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Sep 14, 2017 05:23:10   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Carter said,

“The first thing I would do is treat the North Koreans with respect.”

“I know what the North Koreans want,” he said.

“What they want is a firm treaty guaranteeing North Korea that the US will not attack them or hurt them in any way, unless they attack one of their neighbors.” Carter said,

“But the United States has refused to do that.”
Carter said he would send his top person to Pyongyang immediately, adding:

“If I didn’t go myself.” The former president visited North Korea three times between 1994 and 2011.

"Until we're willing to talk to them and treat them with respect as human beings, which they are, then I don't think we'll make any progress," he said.
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OK, we know that there is virtually no military solution to this problem without a dramatic cost of human life in terms of South Korean and US military personnel. We also know that the only reason the US has not treated North Korea like Iraq, is because of their strong military and nuclear capability. So, my question to all OPP'ers is why not do as Carter proposes and negotiate a treaty with them that we will leave them alone so long as they don't attack us or their neighbors? Is that so hard to comprehend?

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Sep 14, 2017 05:33:42   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Oh, after reading an article by Craig Roberts, I should have added a few more countries:

"Authored by Paul Craig Roberts,

Two of America’s most populous states, Texas and Florida, are in hurricane ruins, and Washington is fomenting more wars.

The US national debt is now over $20 trillion, and Washington is fomenting more wars.

The entire world is helping Washington foment wars - including two targeted countries themselves - Russia and China - both of which are helping Washington foment more wars. Believe it or not, both Russia and China v**ed with Washington on the UN Security Council to impose more and harsher sanctions on North Korea, a country guilty of nothing but a desire to have the means to protect itself from the US and not become yet another Washington victim like Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, Serbia, and Ukraine o*******wn in a US c**p and now poverty-stricken." http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-13/paul-craig-roberts-behold-pale-horse-and-its-rider-washington

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Sep 14, 2017 05:42:24   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
ACP45 wrote:
Carter said,

“The first thing I would do is treat the North Koreans with respect.”

“I know what the North Koreans want,” he said.

“What they want is a firm treaty guaranteeing North Korea that the US will not attack them or hurt them in any way, unless they attack one of their neighbors.” Carter said,

“But the United States has refused to do that.”
Carter said he would send his top person to Pyongyang immediately, adding:

“If I didn’t go myself.” The former president visited North Korea three times between 1994 and 2011.

"Until we're willing to talk to them and treat them with respect as human beings, which they are, then I don't think we'll make any progress," he said.
_____________________________

OK, we know that there is virtually no military solution to this problem without a dramatic cost of human life in terms of South Korean and US military personnel. We also know that the only reason the US has not treated North Korea like Iraq, is because of their strong military and nuclear capability. So, my question to all OPP'ers is why not do as Carter proposes and negotiate a treaty with them that we will leave them alone so long as they don't attack us or their neighbors? Is that so hard to comprehend?
Carter said, br br “The first thing I would do i... (show quote)

I believe you are forgetting who made the first move in 1950. We did not attack them. I have spoken to fellow soldiers who served in Korea and they say that the North constantly uses provocations to try and start something. Showing weakness or a willingness to negotiate to them is an invitation to escalate and see how much they can get away with. It should be worth noting that while South Korea's military strategy is based on defense, North Korea's is based on invasion.

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Sep 14, 2017 06:34:24   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Carter Already Negotiated With The Norks During The Clinton Administration
Against Clinton Policy And With-Out Authorization
Carter Should Have Been Jailed On Upon His Return

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Sep 14, 2017 06:38:23   #
vernon
 
Loki wrote:
I believe you are forgetting who made the first move in 1950. We did not attack them. I have spoken to fellow soldiers who served in Korea and they say that the North constantly uses provocations to try and start something. Showing weakness or a willingness to negotiate to them is an invitation to escalate and see how much they can get away with. It should be worth noting that while South Korea's military strategy is based on defense, North Korea's is based on invasion.



These l*****t will not change without them watching an American city being vaporized.

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Sep 14, 2017 07:13:06   #
son of witless
 
ACP45 wrote:
Carter said,

“The first thing I would do is treat the North Koreans with respect.”

“I know what the North Koreans want,” he said.

“What they want is a firm treaty guaranteeing North Korea that the US will not attack them or hurt them in any way, unless they attack one of their neighbors.” Carter said,

“But the United States has refused to do that.”
Carter said he would send his top person to Pyongyang immediately, adding:

“If I didn’t go myself.” The former president visited North Korea three times between 1994 and 2011.

"Until we're willing to talk to them and treat them with respect as human beings, which they are, then I don't think we'll make any progress," he said.
_____________________________

OK, we know that there is virtually no military solution to this problem without a dramatic cost of human life in terms of South Korean and US military personnel. We also know that the only reason the US has not treated North Korea like Iraq, is because of their strong military and nuclear capability. So, my question to all OPP'ers is why not do as Carter proposes and negotiate a treaty with them that we will leave them alone so long as they don't attack us or their neighbors? Is that so hard to comprehend?
Carter said, br br “The first thing I would do i... (show quote)


Yes it is hard to comprehend. Do you know the history of North Korea? No you do not. Neither does Jimmy Carter. Both Bill Clinton and Barak Obama appeased them and it did not work. Do you know how Kim treats his own people ? No you do not.

What you propose is weakness. Weakness will not work with North Korea. Kim wants the rest of Korea. He wants Korea to be a mighty nation with him running it and all of the people s***es.

Jimmy Carter is not the person to be studying when it comes to dealing with evil. Read what escapees from North Korea say about what goes on in that country.

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Sep 14, 2017 07:39:11   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
son of witless wrote:
Jimmy Carter is not the person to be studying when it comes to dealing with evil.
That's Right
We Threw Him Out Of Office For A Reason
When Clinton Got Elected, He Came Roaring Off The Farm Like Someone Asked Him
He's Been Screwing Up On America Ever Since

He Self-Anointed Himself As Senior Spokesman Of The Democratic Party
He Is A Meddling Nuisance Buttinsky That Nobody Ever Asks Anything
He Can't Get It Through His Head He Is Not A President, He Is Not A Diplomat
He Is Just A Private Citizen That Always Takes The Opposite Side

Carter Needs To Be Confined To The Farm, Or Go Back To Working With Habitat For Humanity

I Get Livid Every Time Someone Reports What Came Out Of This Vindictive Asshole's Mouth
Because He's Trying To Get Even With America For Showing Him The Door (Putting It Nicely)

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Sep 14, 2017 08:08:20   #
Gatsby
 
Why do you choose to ignore the fact that Kim Jung Un has repeated decleared his intent

to re-unify Korea, under his rule? His first step is to drive the U.S. out of South Korea.

He will settle for nothing less!

If China fails to enforce sanctions, cut off all trade with China!

North Korea is nothing more than a pawn of China, in a key position to control the region.
ACP45 wrote:
Oh, after reading an article by Craig Roberts, I should have added a few more countries:

"Authored by Paul Craig Roberts,

Two of America’s most populous states, Texas and Florida, are in hurricane ruins, and Washington is fomenting more wars.

The US national debt is now over $20 trillion, and Washington is fomenting more wars.

The entire world is helping Washington foment wars - including two targeted countries themselves - Russia and China - both of which are helping Washington foment more wars. Believe it or not, both Russia and China v**ed with Washington on the UN Security Council to impose more and harsher sanctions on North Korea, a country guilty of nothing but a desire to have the means to protect itself from the US and not become yet another Washington victim like Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, Serbia, and Ukraine o*******wn in a US c**p and now poverty-stricken." http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-13/paul-craig-roberts-behold-pale-horse-and-its-rider-washington
Oh, after reading an article by Craig Roberts, I s... (show quote)

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Sep 14, 2017 09:15:34   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Gatsby wrote:
If China fails to enforce sanctions
Chinese Banks Have Cut Off Trade With The Norks
No Funds, No Oil, No Nothing
China Says It's To Comply With The UN
(Although China Has Unilateral Veto Power On The Security Council)
The Trump Admin. Has Openly Threatened Chinese Banks Over The Last Few Months

Obama Has Left The Building....

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Sep 14, 2017 09:18:03   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
ACP45 wrote:
Carter said,

“The first thing I would do is treat the North Koreans with respect.”

“I know what the North Koreans want,” he said.

“What they want is a firm treaty guaranteeing North Korea that the US will not attack them or hurt them in any way, unless they attack one of their neighbors.” Carter said,

“But the United States has refused to do that.”
Carter said he would send his top person to Pyongyang immediately, adding:

“If I didn’t go myself.” The former president visited North Korea three times between 1994 and 2011.

"Until we're willing to talk to them and treat them with respect as human beings, which they are, then I don't think we'll make any progress," he said.
_____________________________

OK, we know that there is virtually no military solution to this problem without a dramatic cost of human life in terms of South Korean and US military personnel. We also know that the only reason the US has not treated North Korea like Iraq, is because of their strong military and nuclear capability. So, my question to all OPP'ers is why not do as Carter proposes and negotiate a treaty with them that we will leave them alone so long as they don't attack us or their neighbors? Is that so hard to comprehend?
Carter said, br br “The first thing I would do i... (show quote)


A joint treaty with China, N. Korea and the US, ending the Korean war, recognizing N. Korea as a legitimate sovereign State, and making China responsible for supervising N. Korean nukes, should do the trick. If the N. Korean people are willing to endure the bulls**t, who are we to disagree? We Americans, after all, have plenty of our own bulls**t to deal with, yes?

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Sep 14, 2017 09:42:25   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
lpnmajor wrote:
If the N. Korean people are willing to endure the bulls**t, who are we to disagree?
Are You The Most Un-Informed Poster Around ??
Do You Deliberately Not Know How Those People Live ??
Comment On Something You Have An Inkling About, If Such A Topic Exists

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Sep 14, 2017 11:16:48   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
karpenter wrote:
Chinese Banks Have Cut Off Trade With The Norks
No Funds, No Oil, No Nothing
China Says It's To Comply With The UN
(Although China Has Unilateral Veto Power On The Security Council)
The Trump Admin. Has Openly Threatened Chinese Banks Over The Last Few Months

Obama Has Left The Building....


Stop the naivete. China is still doing trade through backdoor channels. The only way NK will stop the Nuke building is if the Chinese backers are hit in their pocketbooks. STOP all trade imports from China, as long as they still trade with NK. THEN the chinese will solve the problem for us, by ousting that NK madman. Losing 40 billion dollars in trade with the USA will finally make them do something to stop that i***t.

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Sep 14, 2017 11:17:49   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
lpnmajor wrote:
A joint treaty with China, N. Korea and the US, ending the Korean war, recognizing N. Korea as a legitimate sovereign State, and making China responsible for supervising N. Korean nukes, should do the trick. If the N. Korean people are willing to endure the bulls**t, who are we to disagree? We Americans, after all, have plenty of our own bulls**t to deal with, yes?


One problem. Un is a psycopath. He will NOT give up his nukes. Period!

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Sep 14, 2017 11:29:59   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Nuclearian wrote:
Stop the naivete.
Don't You Be So Damned Pompous
Quote:
China is still doing trade through backdoor channels.
I'm Going By The Report I Saw Yesterday
Could You Give Them A Day Or Two
Before You Leap To Conclusions (Not Facts) About Back-Door Channels ??

Here's What 'Naivete' Looks Like In The Flesh:
Quote:
STOP all trade imports from China

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Sep 14, 2017 11:37:56   #
Mike Easterday
 
Send old senile Jimmy to talk with the little fat kid. Leave Old Jimmy there to rot .

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