Tea party supporters and Liberals finding common ground over governmental abuses: Is that so? I can see some of this happening due to most people being moderate and desiring privacy...

Vacaman

Is that so? I can see some of this happening due to most people being moderate and desiring privacy regardless of party line.
What are your thoughts? Is Snowden now a hero of sorts?

stan3186

I wouldn't call him a hero, but he is not near the t*****r that Obama and Reid and Holder are.

Serenity54321

Vacaman wrote:

Is that so? I can see some of this happening due to most people being moderate and desiring privacy regardless of party line.
What are your thoughts? Is Snowden now a hero of sorts?

Snowden has done some criminal acts and has c*********d national security with some of his leaks. Yet, thank God he brought to light the true abuses and infringement of American privacy through the NSA!
I am happy to have found this common ground between political positions, and since we nearly all agree we need to work together to put a stop to this outrageous spying.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Why are you calling these men T*****rs?

stan3186 wrote:

I wouldn't call him a hero, but he is not near the t*****r that Obama and Reid and Holder are.

Vacaman

stan3186 wrote:

I wouldn't call him a hero, but he is not near the t*****r that Obama and Reid and Holder are.

My first thought was, this man is a t*****r, now i'm feeling a little bit warmer toward him. He clearly felt betrayed himself to give up his citizenship. I couldn't even begin to think of everything else he gave up to do what he felt was right.

Vacaman

Serenity54321 wrote:

Snowden has done some criminal acts and has c*********d national security with some of his leaks. Yet, thank God he brought to light the true abuses and infringement of American privacy through the NSA!
I am happy to have found this common ground between political positions, and since we nearly all agree we need to work together to put a stop to this outrageous spying.

I'm not sure he has c*********d national security at all unless he has helped Hamas or Al Qaeda. I don't think he has done much damage at all, sure they may not be able to spy as easily but then again we may not actually know anything YET. Knowbody is talking about drones or listening devices? Wiretaps go back to the sixties.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Obama Reid and Holder are not t*****rs.Snowden is.People may have died or will die because of him.There is far too much mistrust because of plain ol propaganda and enough gullible people that can be made PARANOID

Vacaman

fom wrote:

Obama Reid and Holder are not t*****rs.Snowden is.People may have died or will die because of him.There is far too much mistrust because of plain ol propaganda and enough gullible people that can be made PARANOID

One must define t*****r to assess if the above are, lawlessness is not treason, aiding and abetting the enemy would be. I don't think Obama Holder or Reid fall into the t*****r catagory. History will define them along with Pelosi by who writes it, this we all know. Snowden has guts and in effect cares about all people's privacy, not just his Party!

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Lets put it this way. Snwden was trusted with national secrets and he betrayed that trust making government survailence much more difficult and c*********d investigations that have an effect on national security. That effects the safety of me and you.

Vacaman wrote:

One must define t*****r to assess if the above are, lawlessness is not treason, aiding and abetting the enemy would be. I don't think Obama Holder or Reid fall into the t*****r catagory. History will define them along with Pelosi by who writes it, this we all know. Snowden has guts and in effect cares about all people's privacy, not just his Party!