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Feb 17, 2014 21:16:46   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
archie bunker wrote:
I'm with Can't Believe!! Where do we get one?? Come on dude, pony up!!!
http://www.zazzle.com/infidel_usa_od_green_tees-235527382377474161

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Feb 17, 2014 22:03:09   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
banjojack wrote:
http://www.zazzle.com/infidel_usa_od_green_tees-235527382377474161


Thanks I will wear it with p***e just not around Michigan and my CWP

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Feb 17, 2014 22:12:48   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
saveamerica wrote:
One more thing. The ATF was going to do a dog and pony show with the church. They had the News Media there and camera's rounding and they were dropping ATF agents from helicopter 20 vehicles were charging down the private road getting out and throwing ladders up against the building and started firing their guns and then the return fire started and the ATF was raising the White F**g to surrender defeat. The church people k**led 2 or 3 ATF and wounded 15. The Waco, Texas sheriff said, that if the ATF wanted him, all they had to do was called his department and he would have gone out there and arrested him without any problems. The sheriff had arrested him before.
One more thing. The ATF was going to do a dog and ... (show quote)


Respectfully, Saveamerica, you have your facts completely out of line. Very little of what you said happened as you portrayed it. I am very close to a retired Deputy Sheriff who was one of the first on the scene of the Branch Davidian Compound siege, and who spent most of everyday at the gate of the compound. Most of the Deputies knew Vernon Howell, aka David Koresh, personally. I read him your post, and he denies the t***h of your words. You have relied on a source that would appear to be unreliable.

There is enough criticism to be found in any event such as that one without embellishment by false representations of the facts.

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Feb 17, 2014 22:26:04   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
I doubted it was as cut and dry as he made it sound.
slatten49 wrote:
Respectfully, Saveamerica, you have your facts completely out of line. Very little of what you said happened as you portrayed it. I am very close to a retired Deputy Sheriff who was one of the first on the scene of the Branch Davidian Compound siege, and who spent most of everyday at the gate of the compound. Most of the Deputies knew Vernon Howell, aka David Koresh, personally. I read him your post, and he denies the t***h of your words. You have relied on a source that would appear to be unreliable.

There is enough criticism to be found in any event such as that one without embellishment by false representations of the facts.
Respectfully, Saveamerica, you have your facts com... (show quote)

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Feb 17, 2014 22:28:32   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
cant beleve wrote:
I doubted it was as cut and dry as he made it sound.


Very little is, generally. :wink:

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Feb 17, 2014 22:50:13   #
Homestead
 
stan3186 wrote:
It was nice of you to provide all these figures though out history about v****g. However, I never said anything about v****g, I said RELIGION was the root of all evil, not democrats. Although, that sounds reasonable to me.

I also said c*******m which you apparently agree with. I know it's not the same thing but socialism is a cousin of c*******m.


C*******m is the final step to socialism. It is the ultimate socialism.

The point about v****g is this, throughout the history of the world, expansion of civilizations was by the rights of conquest. Civilizations took what they wanted by war. They didn't v**e for it or get it by any other peaceful means. Unless it was a compact to join together to resist the invasion of another. So survival of a coming war would still be the motivation.

If religion is the root of all evil, then why were most, if not all of those wars fought for profit, glory and power. They may have asked for help from the Gods, but, they didn't invade in the name of their Gods, they did it for themselves.

Again Genghis Khan did not invade Russia, in the name of the Lord.
Ivan the Terrible did not start his rampage across Russia, in the name of the Lord.
The Vikings did not invade England and Europe, in the name of the Lord.
World War One was not started, in the name of the Lord.
World War Two, was not started in the name of the Lord.
Eight thousand years of wars by the Dynasties and Emperors of China, were not done in the name of the Lord.
Chairman Mao, did not starve 70 million of his own people, in the name of the Lord.
Joseph Stalin didn't starve, between seven and 11 million people, in the name of the Lord.
Alexander the Great didn't conquer, most of the known world, in the name of the Lord.

Do I need to go on.
This world is full of death and destruction throughout its whole history and they didn't need the biblical God.

Yet, according to you it is the religion that's evil.

Not man's lust for power, but, his religion.
Not man's gluttony, not his insatiable appetites, but, his religion.
Not man's greed, but, his religion.
Not man's laziness, his willingness to take what others have created, instead of working to create it for himself, but, his religion.
Not man's wrath, his strong vengeful anger or indignation at insults real or imagined, but his religion.
Not his envy of what others posses, but, his religion.
Nor his p***e, that makes him unable to think or reason, but, his religion, that's what you say is evil.

As if it was the religion that created the weaknesses in man.

Have you ever thought, that if these faults didn't exist in man, religion would never have been invented to help resist them.

The evil is in the nature of man.

In this day and age, in order to undermine the United States of America, it's history is criticized and belittled, as if the United States history differed from any other nation.

although it does differ, in that they tried to create a nation where the brutal history of the past would not be repeated, because it would no longer be necessary.

The brutality of the world is vast, for anyone who cares to take a look.
But, in all the history of the world name one other that was conceived in Liberty with the proposition that all men are created equal.
And when the institution of s***ery would not die and was going to expand, what nation in the history of the world went to war with itself to end it, once and for all.
And the hatred for s***ery came from those very religious beliefs that you mock.

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Feb 17, 2014 23:11:06   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Beautifully said and precise
Homestead wrote:
C*******m is the final step to socialism. It is the ultimate socialism.

The point about v****g is this, throughout the history of the world, expansion of civilizations was by the rights of conquest. Civilizations took what they wanted by war. They didn't v**e for it or get it by any other peaceful means. Unless it was a compact to join together to resist the invasion of another. So survival of a coming war would still be the motivation.

If religion is the root of all evil, then why were most, if not all of those wars fought for profit, glory and power. They may have asked for help from the Gods, but, they didn't invade in the name of their Gods, they did it for themselves.

Again Genghis Khan did not invade Russia, in the name of the Lord.
Ivan the Terrible did not start his rampage across Russia, in the name of the Lord.
The Vikings did not invade England and Europe, in the name of the Lord.
World War One was not started, in the name of the Lord.
World War Two, was not started in the name of the Lord.
Eight thousand years of wars by the Dynasties and Emperors of China, were not done in the name of the Lord.
Chairman Mao, did not starve 70 million of his own people, in the name of the Lord.
Joseph Stalin didn't starve, between seven and 11 million people, in the name of the Lord.
Alexander the Great didn't conquer, most of the known world, in the name of the Lord.

Do I need to go on.
This world is full of death and destruction throughout its whole history and they didn't need the biblical God.

Yet, according to you it is the religion that's evil.

Not man's lust for power, but, his religion.
Not man's gluttony, not his insatiable appetites, but, his religion.
Not man's greed, but, his religion.
Not man's laziness, his willingness to take what others have created, instead of working to create it for himself, but, his religion.
Not man's wrath, his strong vengeful anger or indignation at insults real or imagined, but his religion.
Not his envy of what others posses, but, his religion.
Nor his p***e, that makes him unable to think or reason, but, his religion, that's what you say is evil.

As if it was the religion that created the weaknesses in man.

Have you ever thought, that if these faults didn't exist in man, religion would never have been invented to help resist them.

The evil is in the nature of man.

In this day and age, in order to undermine the United States of America, it's history is criticized and belittled, as if the United States history differed from any other nation.

although it does differ, in that they tried to create a nation where the brutal history of the past would not be repeated, because it would no longer be necessary.

The brutality of the world is vast, for anyone who cares to take a look.
But, in all the history of the world name one other that was conceived in Liberty with the proposition that all men are created equal.
And when the institution of s***ery would not die and was going to expand, what nation in the history of the world went to war with itself to end it, once and for all.
And the hatred for s***ery came from those very religious beliefs that you mock.
C*******m is the final step to socialism. It is t... (show quote)


:?: :thumbup:

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Feb 18, 2014 05:48:00   #
stan3186
 
saveamerica wrote:
One more thing. The ATF was going to do a dog and pony show with the church. They had the News Media there and camera's rounding and they were dropping ATF agents from helicopter 20 vehicles were charging down the private road getting out and throwing ladders up against the building and started firing their guns and then the return fire started and the ATF was raising the White F**g to surrender defeat. The church people k**led 2 or 3 ATF and wounded 15. The Waco, Texas sheriff said, that if the ATF wanted him, all they had to do was called his department and he would have gone out there and arrested him without any problems. The sheriff had arrested him before.
One more thing. The ATF was going to do a dog and ... (show quote)


It was a demonstration of the Feds might. A political statement that people should not unite against the Feds otherwise they would crush us like bugs.

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