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Feb 17, 2014 14:53:19   #
Brian Devon
 
banjojack wrote:
The Revolution had little or nothing to do with tea. Your sense of history is pure parochialism, seen through the narrow prism of Liberal left coast Californian ideology. You insist that judging someone by the standards of their time is a cop out, yet you judge everyone by your standards. Given your wistful postings of how wonderful the UK is, you would have undoubtedly been a Tory.



If there had never been an American revolution, s***ery (as in Canada) would have ended 30 years earlier, much to the dismay of the Virginia "planters". We would have a prime minister (who could easily be removed by just a v**e of "no confidence"), and we would have had multiple party representation in a parliament. As a bonus there would never have been a second amendment. We would also be much more closely connected to the EU and have things like genuine national health care (without insurance companies) and effective high speed inter-city rail t***sportation.

Personally, I think it was much more important to have unlimited un-taxed Earl Grey tea...with unpaid servants to pour it ...

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Feb 17, 2014 15:06:09   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Brian Devon wrote:
If there had never been an American revolution, s***ery (as in Canada) would have ended 30 years earlier, much to the dismay of the Virginia "planters". We would have a prime minister (who could easily be removed by just a v**e of "no confidence"), and we would have had multiple party representation in a parliament. As a bonus there would never have been a second amendment. We would also be much more closely connected to the EU and have things like genuine national health care (without insurance companies) and effective high speed inter-city rail t***sportation.

Personally, I think it was much more important to have unlimited un-taxed Earl Grey tea...with unpaid servants to pour it ...
If there had never been an American revolution, s*... (show quote)


The t***h comes out. You wish to be a serf in a feudal European kingdom, with government nobility to decide what you do, when you do it, and when and how much you get paid for the doing. You would sell American Sovereignty to the UN for a Euro Dollar. Then you could roll on your back and pee in the air every time one of your betters, (which is looking more and more like pretty much everybody ) decides to perambulate your way. You scorn the use of force, ignoring the fact that you have the freedom to spout your nonsense because someone else was man enough to stand up and use force to defend your right to do so. You denigrate the people and principles which make your lifestyle possible, thinking it would be oh so much better if we were in England, with a king, and we never should have revolted against our lords and masters and OH.............

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Feb 17, 2014 15:16:22   #
Brian Devon
 
banjojack wrote:
The t***h comes out. You wish to be a serf in a feudal European kingdom, with government nobility to decide what you do, when you do it, and when and how much you get paid for the doing. You would sell American Sovereignty to the UN for a Euro Dollar. Then you could roll on your back and pee in the air every time one of your betters, (which is looking more and more like pretty much everybody ) decides to perambulate your way. You scorn the use of force, ignoring the fact that you have the freedom to spout your nonsense because someone else was man enough to stand up and use force to defend your right to do so. You denigrate the people and principles which make your lifestyle possible, thinking it would be oh so much better if we were in England, with a king, and we never should have revolted against our lords and masters and OH.............
The t***h comes out. You wish to be a serf in a fe... (show quote)


Obviously you prefer your civics lessons to be Disneyfied white-wash. You are one of those "get off my lawn" types who knows very little...and is quite proud of it. Sounds like you are a graduate of the George W. (Is our children learning?)Bush Remedial High School.

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Feb 17, 2014 15:25:30   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Gallup: Americans Say Reagan is the Greatest President !Ever

http://www.gallup.com/poll/146183/Americans-Say-Reagan-Greatest-President.aspx

Reagan is slightly ahead of Lincoln and Bill Clinton, Obama comes in at Eighth.


Obama at 8th. Did you say that because he made a huge thing out of his beer drinking that one day? :mrgreen:

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Feb 17, 2014 15:28:23   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Brian Devon wrote:
If there had never been an American revolution, s***ery (as in Canada) would have ended 30 years earlier, much to the dismay of the Virginia "planters". We would have a prime minister (who could easily be removed by just a v**e of "no confidence"), and we would have had multiple party representation in a parliament. As a bonus there would never have been a second amendment. We would also be much more closely connected to the EU and have things like genuine national health care (without insurance companies) and effective high speed inter-city rail t***sportation.

Personally, I think it was much more important to have unlimited un-taxed Earl Grey tea...with unpaid servants to pour it ...
If there had never been an American revolution, s*... (show quote)


Health care without insurance companies? Can you explain to us how you would pay for that? Surely the government would have to take in a huge amount more in taxes to take care of that. Oh my, I forgot that old poops like me wouldn't get any of that care.

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Feb 17, 2014 15:31:13   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Brian Devon wrote:
Obviously you prefer your civics lessons to be Disneyfied white-wash. You are one of those "get off my lawn" types who knows very little...and is quite proud of it. Sounds like you are a graduate of the George W. (Is our children learning?)Bush Remedial High School.


I bet you are right about that school but when will you admit to being some kind of valedictorian at the Alinsky School of Socialism?

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Feb 17, 2014 15:33:52   #
Brian Devon
 
oldroy wrote:
Health care without insurance companies? Can you explain to us how you would pay for that? Surely the government would have to take in a huge amount more in taxes to take care of that. Oh my, I forgot that old poops like me wouldn't get any of that care.



Its not necessary to re-invent the wheel. It has already been figured out by the U.K., Canada, France, Germany, the Scandanavian countries, as well as Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, and Israel + many more too numerous to name.

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Feb 17, 2014 15:37:44   #
Brian Devon
 
oldroy wrote:
I bet you are right about that school but when will you admit to being some kind of valedictorian at the Alinsky School of Socialism?



Democrats don't go around spouting Saul Alinsky. That has now become the domain of the far right, who have adapted it for use by the Republican party. The name Alinsky only rolls off the tongues of wing-nuts.

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Feb 17, 2014 15:39:25   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Brian Devon wrote:
Its not necessary to re-invent the wheel. It has already been figured out by the U.K., Canada, France, Germany, the Scandanavian countries, as well as Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, and Israel + many more too numerous to name.


We see so many reports of people dying in the halls of UK hospitals and old people having to wait for treatment long enough that the expire while waiting. And yet you throw the UK and Canada into the first two spots in your list. You are really one of those brainwashed libs I just read about, aren't you?

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Feb 17, 2014 18:56:49   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Brian Devon wrote:
Obviously you prefer your civics lessons to be Disneyfied white-wash. You are one of those "get off my lawn" types who knows very little...and is quite proud of it. Sounds like you are a graduate of the George W. (Is our children learning?)Bush Remedial High School.


My God. You truly are an i***t. What sort of Civics book did YOUR lessons come out of, the "Collected Works of Che Guevara?" You actually believe that the Revolution was fought so Virginia s***e owners could keep their s***es? Have you ever even read the Declaration of Independence? Take off the blinders. Believe it or not, there is an entire world out there, and most of it could not care less what California thinks, much less what your distorted view of historical fact might be. Your version of US history has little more than a nodding acquaintance with reality.

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