The 4th Turning
Aug 21, 2017 16:46:07 #
This is a little longer read, but it is well worth it. Sorry...couldnt get the link to copy.
Former chief strategist Steve Bannon was dismissed from the White House Friday, and conservatives who supported Trump before and after the e******n fear his absence makes it less likely the president will be able to “fulfill campaign promises made to the Republican base that helped elect him, while Democratic lawmakers and activists” are celebrating his exit.
Senior Pentagon analyst Lt. Col. Robert Maginnis immediately emailed me to say: “Tom. Looks like Trump’s biggest populist, anti-g*******t adviser was pushed out by g*******ts. I suspect we’ll now hear less about America First.” Robert went on to depict Bannon’s departure as a major victory for deep-state saboteurs.
Why does a qualified agency expert like Maginnis believe conservatives are right in saying Bannon’s departure “signals a general purge of conservatives on the White House staff?” Because the real story behind Bannon is far more complex, perhaps even prophetic, than most in the public understand.
Let me back up.
In 2008 and again in 2012, with input from Steve Quayle and me, my good friend Sue Bradley, an investigative journalist and blogger who has since gone home to be with Jesus (April 26, 2013) had started work on what would be one of her last articles. It was headlined “The Fourth Turning: The Protocols and the Grey Champion.”
A couple of months before she departed this life, Sue had e-mailed me from her hospital room and said she was about to expand her “Fourth Turning” work based on some “Zenith 2016” material I had just shared with her. Unfortunately, like with the passing of David Flynn, the world will never know what Sue was about to reveal.
Check out Thomas Horn’s extensive collection of best-selling, eye-opening books at the WND Superstore!
What we do understand now is that it was connected to a primary player in Trump’s e******n and early administration – Steve Bannon. This is because Sue’s unfinished research was partially based on a book published in 1997, “The Fourth Turning,” which seems to have deeply influenced Bannon’s worldview and possibly his eschatology. “Turning” describes itself as a work “that turns history into prophecy.” It explains cycles of life and generational archetypes through the examination of Western historical paradigms over the past five centuries. By surveying the past and identifying contemporary markers, William Strauss and Neil Howe, the authors of the study, determined an astoundingly prescient forecast in which they saw a cascade of incidents that would ultimately lead to chaos and the “Fourth Turning.” Keep in mind, they made these predictions 20 years ago, long before the September 11, 2001, attacks on America or the financial issues of today. Among the scenarios they foresaw were:
The first could be economic distress with a government beset by fiscal crisis, the state laying claim to federal tax monies, federal marshals enforcing orders, tax r*******ns, special forces and an ensuing constitutional crisis;
The second is a terrorist attack involving an airliner, a military response, authorization for house-to-house searches and false-f**g accusations against the administration;
The third scenario is an economic disaster involving Wall Street and a federal budget impasse that results in a stalemate;
The fourth consideration is eco-environmental malaise with the Centers for Disease Control announcing the spread of a new communicable v***s with quarantines and relocations;
The fifth projection is geopolitical in nature, with growing anarchy throughout the former Soviet republics prompting Russia to conduct training exercises around its borders, a Russian alliance with Iran, soaring gold and silver prices, and global military responses.
In describing these insightful scenarios, Strauss and Howe felt a catalyst would unfold as a result of a specific dynamic, and, “An initial spark will trigger a chain reaction of unyielding responses and further emergencies.”
According to Strauss and Howe in 1997, this chain reaction was already prepped to unfold as the result of natural cycles or “Turnings” in which generations are doomed to forget – and thus, to repeat – the mistakes of the past. The authors describe a Turning as “an era with a characteristic social mood, a new twist on how people feel about themselves and their nation. It results from the aging of the generation [before it].”
A society enters a Turning once every 20 years or so, when all living generations begin to enter their next phases of life. The living generations, or saeculae, comprise four cyclical Turnings, characterized as:
The First Turning (The High): An era of enthusiastic collective strengthening and civic development, having burned the brush and swept the ashes of preceding structure.
The Second Turning (The Awakening): Built on the energies and accomplishments of the High but finds increasing yearning for introspection with a high tolerance for spiritual expression outside the parameters of predetermined standards.
The Third Turning (The Unraveling): Begins as the “society-wide embrace of the liberating cultural forces” loosed by the Awakening shows signs of civic disorder and decay, a heightened sense of self-reliance and an increasing withdrawal of public trust. This builds to a near crisis of downcast pessimism and a palpable pall that can only be remedied by yielding to the next.
The Fourth Turning (The Crises – and the era we are in now): By far, the most perilous as societies pass through the greatest and most dangerous gates of history. As desperate solutions are sought for “sudden threats” on multiple cultural fronts, confrontation is passionate and decisions are often reactive, aggressive. “Government governs, community obstacles are removed, and laws and customs that resisted change for decades are swiftly shunted aside. A grim preoccupation with civic peril causes spiritual curiosity to decline. … Public order tightens, private risk-taking abates, and … child-rearing reaches a smothering degree of protection and structure. The young focus their energy on worldly achievements, leaving values in the hands of the old. Wars are fought with fury and for maximum result.”
Through the examination of an enormous amount of political and cultural history, Strauss and Howe processed over 500 years of Anglo-American cultural nuance into remarkable, well-organized and predictable cycles, and it is from this reservoir they finally stake an uncanny claim:
Just after the millennium, America will enter a new era that will culminate with a crisis comparable to the American Revolution, the Civil War, the Great Depression, and World War II. The very survival of the nation will almost certainly be at stake.
Strauss and Howe saw the United States of that time (1997) in the Third Turning, “midway through an Unraveling,” roughly a decade away from the next Crisis or Fourth Turning:
America feels like it’s unraveling. Although we live in an era of relative peace and comfort, we have settled into a mood of pessimism about the long-term future, fearful that our superpower nation is somehow rotting from within.
The next Fourth Turning is due to begin shortly after the new millennium. … Real hardship will beset the land, with severe distress that could involve questions of class, race, nation, and empire …
The very survival of the nation will feel at stake.
Sometime before the year 2025, America will pass through a great gate in history, commensurate with the American Revolution, Civil War, and twin emergencies of the Great Depression and World War II.
The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into i**********n or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and efforts – in other words, a TOTAL WAR.
The striking details contained within the Fourth Turning illustrate the precision that was distilled with a close examination of historical patterns and contemporary application.
Although the authors note that the events described are not absolute, they also insist that the cycles, these Turnings, cannot be interrupted. As summer follows spring, an Unraveling precedes a Crisis of Faustian proportions:
It will require us to lend a new seasonal interpretation to our revered American Dream. And it will require us to admit that our faith in linear progress has often amounted to a Faustian bargain with our children.
Faust always ups the ante, and every bet is double-or-nothing. Through much of the Third Turning, we have managed to postpone the reckoning. But history warns that we can’t defer it beyond the next bend in time.
While a “Faustian bargain” sounds ominous, there is little evidence that the Anglo-American “Dream” has undergone the introspection and discipline necessary to buffer the arrogant recklessness of this generation and its administration.
NBC’s Chuck Todd noted, on the evening of Nov. 4, 2008, that Barack Obama was a changing of the guard in the United States from the baby-boomer presidencies of William Clinton and George W. Bush. The Toronto Globe and Mail referred to President-elect Obama as being a member of generation X, being born in 1961. And Strauss and Howe assigned generation X – the 13th generation – to those who brought America to chaos and the start of the current Fourth Turning.
Fast-forward to today and ask yourself: What does this have to do with Steve Bannon and pressure that was placed on Trump to remove him from the administrations list of strategists? Are “deep-state” antagonists that gunned “for its ultimate enemy within the White House – former Breitbart executive Steve Bannon” actually working to keep Americans blind to what is really unfolding behind the scenes in D.C. amidst dark NWO forces? And why has Pope Francis (who we will discuss in the next entry of this series and who has some Catholic leaders fearing he could be the false prophet of end-times fame) also worked behind the scenes to get Bannon expunged from the White House as a “supporter of apocalyptic geopolitics”?
Hold on to your seat.
Check out Thomas Horn’s extensive collection of best-selling, eye-opening books at the WND Superstore!
In 2009, Bannon called historian David Kaiser on the phone. At the time, professor Kaiser worked at the Naval War College in Newport, Rhode Island. Bannon wanted to know if Kaiser, an expert on “the Fourth Turning,” would appear in a documentary he was producing based on Strauss and Howe’s generational theory. (The film was released in 2010, titled “Generation Zero.”)
Kaiser agreed to be part of the film and traveled to the Washington headquarters of Citizens United, where Bannon was at the time, to be interviewed. At one point during the recordings, Kaiser says Bannon pressured him to agree with something he doesn’t believe. “He was talking about the wars of the fourth turnings,” Kaiser said, recalling how Bannon seemed sharply focused on making the point that another world war was on the horizon and that it would be a catalyst for the arrival of an international leader – the Grey Champion from the Fourth Turning that Sue Bradley had named her unfinished investigation after.
“You have the American Revolution, you have the Civil War, you have the Second World War; they’re getting bigger and bigger,” Bannon allegedly emphasized to Kaiser.
“Clearly, he was anticipating that in this ‘fourth turning’ there would be one at least as big. And he really made an effort, I remember, to get me to say that on the air.”
In a feature article for Huffington Post, Paul Blumenthal and J. M. Rieger echo Kaiser’s suspicions, but see a darker underlying worldview in Bannon’s thinking. They wrote:
Bannon, who’s now ensconced in the West Wing as President Donald Trump’s closest adviser, has been portrayed as Trump’s main ideas guy. But in interviews, speeches and writing – and especially in his embrace of Strauss and Howe – he has made clear that he is, first and foremost, an apocalypticist.
In Bannon’s view, we are in the midst of an existential war, and everything is a part of that conflict. Treaties must be torn up, enemies named, culture changed. Global conf**gration, should it occur, would only prove the theory correct. For Bannon, the Fourth Turning has arrived. The Grey Champion, a messianic strongman figure, may have already emerged. The apocalypse is now.
According to Strauss and Howe, an unexpected national leader would emerge during the current Fourth Turning against all odds from an older generation to become a temporary figurehead or “hero” who leads the globe into a New World Order. This commander – whom they call the Grey Champion (and who some of us could worry is the antichrist) – will continue in power as a result of war or conflict that keeps his regime in command. (A second term for a U.S. president or continuance as executive during p**********l war powers or martial law that suspends e******ns?)
“The winners will now have the power to pursue the more potent, less incrementalist agenda about which they had long dreamed and against which their adversaries had darkly warned,” says the Fourth Turning. “This new regime will enthrone itself for the duration of the Crisis. Regardless of its ideology, that new leadership will assert public authority and demand private sacrifice. Where leaders had once been inclined to alleviate societal pressures, they will now aggravate them to command the nation’s attention” (“The Fourth Turning,” P. 277).
Strauss and Howe were convinced when they wrote this thesis 20 years ago that the United States was in the Third Turning then, and that the next crises period, or Fourth Turning, would begin sometime following 2005 and end around 2025. In between these dates, the Grey Champion would appear.
Remarkably enough, most economists today point to the Lehman crisis in 2008 to explain the ramifications of the next global financial crisis, which the world’s leading authorities such as the Bank for International Settlements are now saying is going to hit global markets soon with a vengeance.
Does this mean we are in the middle now of the Fourth Turning?
It’s hard to argue against facts.
The foundations that once supported America’s stability and clout have weakened to the point that our institutions and infrastructure are crumbling. From i*****l i*********n to social programs and mounting debt, we have reached an unsustainable reality so reminiscent of Strauss and Howe’s generational prediction that it’s getting harder each day to deny.
And then there is that “risk of catastrophe” in which the “nation could erupt into i**********n or civil violence” the professors foresaw. Will the George Soros and Obama-backed agitators currently wreaking havoc across Ame
Former chief strategist Steve Bannon was dismissed from the White House Friday, and conservatives who supported Trump before and after the e******n fear his absence makes it less likely the president will be able to “fulfill campaign promises made to the Republican base that helped elect him, while Democratic lawmakers and activists” are celebrating his exit.
Senior Pentagon analyst Lt. Col. Robert Maginnis immediately emailed me to say: “Tom. Looks like Trump’s biggest populist, anti-g*******t adviser was pushed out by g*******ts. I suspect we’ll now hear less about America First.” Robert went on to depict Bannon’s departure as a major victory for deep-state saboteurs.
Why does a qualified agency expert like Maginnis believe conservatives are right in saying Bannon’s departure “signals a general purge of conservatives on the White House staff?” Because the real story behind Bannon is far more complex, perhaps even prophetic, than most in the public understand.
Let me back up.
In 2008 and again in 2012, with input from Steve Quayle and me, my good friend Sue Bradley, an investigative journalist and blogger who has since gone home to be with Jesus (April 26, 2013) had started work on what would be one of her last articles. It was headlined “The Fourth Turning: The Protocols and the Grey Champion.”
A couple of months before she departed this life, Sue had e-mailed me from her hospital room and said she was about to expand her “Fourth Turning” work based on some “Zenith 2016” material I had just shared with her. Unfortunately, like with the passing of David Flynn, the world will never know what Sue was about to reveal.
Check out Thomas Horn’s extensive collection of best-selling, eye-opening books at the WND Superstore!
What we do understand now is that it was connected to a primary player in Trump’s e******n and early administration – Steve Bannon. This is because Sue’s unfinished research was partially based on a book published in 1997, “The Fourth Turning,” which seems to have deeply influenced Bannon’s worldview and possibly his eschatology. “Turning” describes itself as a work “that turns history into prophecy.” It explains cycles of life and generational archetypes through the examination of Western historical paradigms over the past five centuries. By surveying the past and identifying contemporary markers, William Strauss and Neil Howe, the authors of the study, determined an astoundingly prescient forecast in which they saw a cascade of incidents that would ultimately lead to chaos and the “Fourth Turning.” Keep in mind, they made these predictions 20 years ago, long before the September 11, 2001, attacks on America or the financial issues of today. Among the scenarios they foresaw were:
The first could be economic distress with a government beset by fiscal crisis, the state laying claim to federal tax monies, federal marshals enforcing orders, tax r*******ns, special forces and an ensuing constitutional crisis;
The second is a terrorist attack involving an airliner, a military response, authorization for house-to-house searches and false-f**g accusations against the administration;
The third scenario is an economic disaster involving Wall Street and a federal budget impasse that results in a stalemate;
The fourth consideration is eco-environmental malaise with the Centers for Disease Control announcing the spread of a new communicable v***s with quarantines and relocations;
The fifth projection is geopolitical in nature, with growing anarchy throughout the former Soviet republics prompting Russia to conduct training exercises around its borders, a Russian alliance with Iran, soaring gold and silver prices, and global military responses.
In describing these insightful scenarios, Strauss and Howe felt a catalyst would unfold as a result of a specific dynamic, and, “An initial spark will trigger a chain reaction of unyielding responses and further emergencies.”
According to Strauss and Howe in 1997, this chain reaction was already prepped to unfold as the result of natural cycles or “Turnings” in which generations are doomed to forget – and thus, to repeat – the mistakes of the past. The authors describe a Turning as “an era with a characteristic social mood, a new twist on how people feel about themselves and their nation. It results from the aging of the generation [before it].”
A society enters a Turning once every 20 years or so, when all living generations begin to enter their next phases of life. The living generations, or saeculae, comprise four cyclical Turnings, characterized as:
The First Turning (The High): An era of enthusiastic collective strengthening and civic development, having burned the brush and swept the ashes of preceding structure.
The Second Turning (The Awakening): Built on the energies and accomplishments of the High but finds increasing yearning for introspection with a high tolerance for spiritual expression outside the parameters of predetermined standards.
The Third Turning (The Unraveling): Begins as the “society-wide embrace of the liberating cultural forces” loosed by the Awakening shows signs of civic disorder and decay, a heightened sense of self-reliance and an increasing withdrawal of public trust. This builds to a near crisis of downcast pessimism and a palpable pall that can only be remedied by yielding to the next.
The Fourth Turning (The Crises – and the era we are in now): By far, the most perilous as societies pass through the greatest and most dangerous gates of history. As desperate solutions are sought for “sudden threats” on multiple cultural fronts, confrontation is passionate and decisions are often reactive, aggressive. “Government governs, community obstacles are removed, and laws and customs that resisted change for decades are swiftly shunted aside. A grim preoccupation with civic peril causes spiritual curiosity to decline. … Public order tightens, private risk-taking abates, and … child-rearing reaches a smothering degree of protection and structure. The young focus their energy on worldly achievements, leaving values in the hands of the old. Wars are fought with fury and for maximum result.”
Through the examination of an enormous amount of political and cultural history, Strauss and Howe processed over 500 years of Anglo-American cultural nuance into remarkable, well-organized and predictable cycles, and it is from this reservoir they finally stake an uncanny claim:
Just after the millennium, America will enter a new era that will culminate with a crisis comparable to the American Revolution, the Civil War, the Great Depression, and World War II. The very survival of the nation will almost certainly be at stake.
Strauss and Howe saw the United States of that time (1997) in the Third Turning, “midway through an Unraveling,” roughly a decade away from the next Crisis or Fourth Turning:
America feels like it’s unraveling. Although we live in an era of relative peace and comfort, we have settled into a mood of pessimism about the long-term future, fearful that our superpower nation is somehow rotting from within.
The next Fourth Turning is due to begin shortly after the new millennium. … Real hardship will beset the land, with severe distress that could involve questions of class, race, nation, and empire …
The very survival of the nation will feel at stake.
Sometime before the year 2025, America will pass through a great gate in history, commensurate with the American Revolution, Civil War, and twin emergencies of the Great Depression and World War II.
The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into i**********n or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and efforts – in other words, a TOTAL WAR.
The striking details contained within the Fourth Turning illustrate the precision that was distilled with a close examination of historical patterns and contemporary application.
Although the authors note that the events described are not absolute, they also insist that the cycles, these Turnings, cannot be interrupted. As summer follows spring, an Unraveling precedes a Crisis of Faustian proportions:
It will require us to lend a new seasonal interpretation to our revered American Dream. And it will require us to admit that our faith in linear progress has often amounted to a Faustian bargain with our children.
Faust always ups the ante, and every bet is double-or-nothing. Through much of the Third Turning, we have managed to postpone the reckoning. But history warns that we can’t defer it beyond the next bend in time.
While a “Faustian bargain” sounds ominous, there is little evidence that the Anglo-American “Dream” has undergone the introspection and discipline necessary to buffer the arrogant recklessness of this generation and its administration.
NBC’s Chuck Todd noted, on the evening of Nov. 4, 2008, that Barack Obama was a changing of the guard in the United States from the baby-boomer presidencies of William Clinton and George W. Bush. The Toronto Globe and Mail referred to President-elect Obama as being a member of generation X, being born in 1961. And Strauss and Howe assigned generation X – the 13th generation – to those who brought America to chaos and the start of the current Fourth Turning.
Fast-forward to today and ask yourself: What does this have to do with Steve Bannon and pressure that was placed on Trump to remove him from the administrations list of strategists? Are “deep-state” antagonists that gunned “for its ultimate enemy within the White House – former Breitbart executive Steve Bannon” actually working to keep Americans blind to what is really unfolding behind the scenes in D.C. amidst dark NWO forces? And why has Pope Francis (who we will discuss in the next entry of this series and who has some Catholic leaders fearing he could be the false prophet of end-times fame) also worked behind the scenes to get Bannon expunged from the White House as a “supporter of apocalyptic geopolitics”?
Hold on to your seat.
Check out Thomas Horn’s extensive collection of best-selling, eye-opening books at the WND Superstore!
In 2009, Bannon called historian David Kaiser on the phone. At the time, professor Kaiser worked at the Naval War College in Newport, Rhode Island. Bannon wanted to know if Kaiser, an expert on “the Fourth Turning,” would appear in a documentary he was producing based on Strauss and Howe’s generational theory. (The film was released in 2010, titled “Generation Zero.”)
Kaiser agreed to be part of the film and traveled to the Washington headquarters of Citizens United, where Bannon was at the time, to be interviewed. At one point during the recordings, Kaiser says Bannon pressured him to agree with something he doesn’t believe. “He was talking about the wars of the fourth turnings,” Kaiser said, recalling how Bannon seemed sharply focused on making the point that another world war was on the horizon and that it would be a catalyst for the arrival of an international leader – the Grey Champion from the Fourth Turning that Sue Bradley had named her unfinished investigation after.
“You have the American Revolution, you have the Civil War, you have the Second World War; they’re getting bigger and bigger,” Bannon allegedly emphasized to Kaiser.
“Clearly, he was anticipating that in this ‘fourth turning’ there would be one at least as big. And he really made an effort, I remember, to get me to say that on the air.”
In a feature article for Huffington Post, Paul Blumenthal and J. M. Rieger echo Kaiser’s suspicions, but see a darker underlying worldview in Bannon’s thinking. They wrote:
Bannon, who’s now ensconced in the West Wing as President Donald Trump’s closest adviser, has been portrayed as Trump’s main ideas guy. But in interviews, speeches and writing – and especially in his embrace of Strauss and Howe – he has made clear that he is, first and foremost, an apocalypticist.
In Bannon’s view, we are in the midst of an existential war, and everything is a part of that conflict. Treaties must be torn up, enemies named, culture changed. Global conf**gration, should it occur, would only prove the theory correct. For Bannon, the Fourth Turning has arrived. The Grey Champion, a messianic strongman figure, may have already emerged. The apocalypse is now.
According to Strauss and Howe, an unexpected national leader would emerge during the current Fourth Turning against all odds from an older generation to become a temporary figurehead or “hero” who leads the globe into a New World Order. This commander – whom they call the Grey Champion (and who some of us could worry is the antichrist) – will continue in power as a result of war or conflict that keeps his regime in command. (A second term for a U.S. president or continuance as executive during p**********l war powers or martial law that suspends e******ns?)
“The winners will now have the power to pursue the more potent, less incrementalist agenda about which they had long dreamed and against which their adversaries had darkly warned,” says the Fourth Turning. “This new regime will enthrone itself for the duration of the Crisis. Regardless of its ideology, that new leadership will assert public authority and demand private sacrifice. Where leaders had once been inclined to alleviate societal pressures, they will now aggravate them to command the nation’s attention” (“The Fourth Turning,” P. 277).
Strauss and Howe were convinced when they wrote this thesis 20 years ago that the United States was in the Third Turning then, and that the next crises period, or Fourth Turning, would begin sometime following 2005 and end around 2025. In between these dates, the Grey Champion would appear.
Remarkably enough, most economists today point to the Lehman crisis in 2008 to explain the ramifications of the next global financial crisis, which the world’s leading authorities such as the Bank for International Settlements are now saying is going to hit global markets soon with a vengeance.
Does this mean we are in the middle now of the Fourth Turning?
It’s hard to argue against facts.
The foundations that once supported America’s stability and clout have weakened to the point that our institutions and infrastructure are crumbling. From i*****l i*********n to social programs and mounting debt, we have reached an unsustainable reality so reminiscent of Strauss and Howe’s generational prediction that it’s getting harder each day to deny.
And then there is that “risk of catastrophe” in which the “nation could erupt into i**********n or civil violence” the professors foresaw. Will the George Soros and Obama-backed agitators currently wreaking havoc across Ame
Aug 21, 2017 17:19:34 #
This is a fascinating read, and I must say it supports my contention that we are near a financial collapse. I have great fear that I have not prepared enough for what some believe to be a nation-k*****g crisis, although my days and those of my wife are most certainly limited now since I am 86 and she is 80. At that age, it is obvious that we must retire into the background and let the new generations carry the water. Except, of course, for posting what I believe! This Fourth Turning idea I must look into. Thanks for posting this idea.
Aug 21, 2017 19:31:05 #
Manning345 wrote:
This is a fascinating read, and I must say it supp... (show quote)
Thx Mann. I'm hoping I have another good 30 years left. If so...great..if not, then that will be God's will. I'm just going to keep fighting for my kids and especially my granddaughters. Sure hope they're able to grow up in a decent world....
Aug 22, 2017 10:48:49 #
ProudTiger
Loc: Tennessee
I read most of the book -- very interesting but complicated. Your post very succinctly summarizes it. America is indeed headed down a rough road. Roger...Hold on to your hats. Most of our children don't have a clue what is in store for them. Thanks, JMB CAPTAIN USN (ret)
Aug 22, 2017 11:02:11 #
ProudTiger wrote:
I read most of the book -- very interesting but complicated. Your post very succinctly summarizes it. America is indeed headed down a rough road. Roger...Hold on to your hats. Most of our children don't have a clue what is in store for them. Thanks, JMB CAPTAIN USN (ret)
Hey Proud. Yes...we definitely have to hang onto our hats. This THING wh**ever it is...is going to get way worse before it gets any better. I'm so glad my family and I live in flyover states and not on the coasts or near very big cities....
Aug 24, 2017 15:39:14 #
kankune wrote:
Hey Proud. Yes...we definitely have to hang onto our hats. This THING wh**ever it is...is going to get way worse before it gets any better. I'm so glad my family and I live in flyover states and not on the coasts or near very big cities....
Earlier, I thought living in Richmond was going to be really great. Now, I don't know since our black Mayor called for removing the Lee, Jackson and Stuart statues from Monument Avenue. I guess it is get-even time. or something. Erasing history should be a crime. My immediate ancestors were from the deep South, and one of them, I believe he was a great-great grandfather and a colonel, lost an arm in a battle around Atlanta. This man went to battle with four of his s***es, five horses and a well-equipped tent. The s***es brought him home after his loss, and he freed the four of them and all the rest of his s***es. His home and land went to ruin, and isn't being farmed to this day.
Aug 24, 2017 16:28:10 #
Manning345 wrote:
Earlier, I thought living in Richmond was going to... (show quote)
I still believe that not a one of those historical statues should be touched. I'll keep saying it over and over again. Its OUR history. AMERICA'S history. Why dont we just ad to history then. Prominent historical, black, Asian, Indian figures.
I do have a question...muslims are known to be one of the largest black s***e owners in history. Why no uprising to remove the mosques?? That's because it's not about the statues. It's about how much power these black activist think they have over w****s. Just sayin.....
Aug 24, 2017 23:37:22 #
kankune wrote:
I still believe that not a one of those historical... (show quote)
Is it possible that the b****s are afraid of Muslims, especially the Black Muslims of America? At the same time, I believe they are seeking a kind of revenge for their current and past status, for which they blame w****s. And besides that, they have found common ground with the C*******t A****a who want to foment chaos in America as part of a plan to gain power. They are following the Saul Alinsky and Cloward-Piven strategies closely, with an additional boost from the Italian C*******t Gramsci's methods for taking over. Out of chaos comes organizers who try to install C*******m. Of course, it is the really radical A****a people that think they will be the organizers! The men behind the scene, however, are simply using them as shock troops, notably Soros, and others I don't know. That is my take.
Aug 25, 2017 09:07:25 #
Manning345 wrote:
Is it possible that the b****s are afraid of Musli... (show quote)
That could very well be Mann. But I really believe you have these radicals that have been fed so much crap by their colleges and by the media they have no idea what's really going on. They are still children wanting to be accepted by the crowd. Minds are not completely developed yet. They are easy prey. That's why they've been going after our educational system for years.
You can bet Soros, Obama, clinton, and their ilk are sitting back laughing at how these people with very weak minds are following their lead. As for the muslims....theyre just sitting in the background biding their time and waiting to be called up.
They didn't install a muslim as head of this country for 8 years to nothing. I do say installed because I believe he was an ill********e p*******t.....
Aug 25, 2017 12:31:19 #
I agree with you. Judging by the failure rates here in Richmond, we are producing ignorant people at an astonishing rate. And then, given a generous loan from the Government, these i***ts go to college to be indoctrinated deeply in Liberal thought, and have to repay an enormous sum to the Gov't, which they come to resent mightily, because it stops them from buying cars, furnishing nice apt or house, and taking nice vacations. Easy pickings for radicals.
Aug 25, 2017 15:40:52 #
Manning345 wrote:
I agree with you. Judging by the failure rates here in Richmond, we are producing ignorant people at an astonishing rate. And then, given a generous loan from the Government, these i***ts go to college to be indoctrinated deeply in Liberal thought, and have to repay an enormous sum to the Gov't, which they come to resent mightily, because it stops them from buying cars, furnishing nice apt or house, and taking nice vacations. Easy pickings for radicals.
And they do those generous loans on purpose Man. These so called professors and colleges are suppose to be helping these kids grow and learn. They screw up their lives completely offering them classes that will not do them any good in the real world and filling their heads with pure h**eful absurdity. The ones that survive it have a very solid upbringing and even some of those don't make it just because they want to be excepted. They are young minds and easily swayed....
Aug 25, 2017 16:48:11 #
kankune wrote:
And they do those generous loans on purpose Man. These so called professors and colleges are suppose to be helping these kids grow and learn. They screw up their lives completely offering them classes that will not do them any good in the real world and filling their heads with pure h**eful absurdity. The ones that survive it have a very solid upbringing and even some of those don't make it just because they want to be excepted. They are young minds and easily swayed....
I would venture that a significant percentage of college students shouldn't even be in college, they should be in a vocational school, which is usually less expensive, and you graduate with a useful sk**l; even a job right out of school.
I love the term h**eful absurdity, it is quite apt! Right out of Harold Bloom, it seems!
Aug 25, 2017 18:00:23 #
Manning345 wrote:
I would venture that a significant percentage of college students shouldn't even be in college, they should be in a vocational school, which is usually less expensive, and you graduate with a useful sk**l; even a job right out of school.
I love the term h**eful absurdity, it is quite apt! Right out of Harold Bloom, it seems!
I love the term h**eful absurdity, it is quite apt! Right out of Harold Bloom, it seems!
I hear ya on the vocational school thing. Both my kids went to them and they both have great jobs. I'm not too familiar with Harold Bloom only thru my poetry circles. I write poetry for a lot of people. Mostly for special occasions. I enjoy it. Write my best when I'm out on a horseback ride...... : )
Aug 26, 2017 00:06:55 #
kankune wrote:
I hear ya on the vocational school thing. Both my kids went to them and they both have great jobs. I'm not too familiar with Harold Bloom only thru my poetry circles. I write poetry for a lot of people. Mostly for special occasions. I enjoy it. Write my best when I'm out on a horseback ride...... : )
Bloom write "The Greening of America" where in one passage he quotes a well-known professor who said he enjoyed taking bright young students and molding them into radicals. I am paraphrasing, but that was the sense of it.
I have never known a horseback poet: I can see some difficulties in writing legibly while trotting or galloping, and even in a slow walk! Do you use a tablet or cellphone?
Aug 26, 2017 11:23:55 #
Manning345 wrote:
Bloom write "The Greening of America" where in one passage he quotes a well-known professor who said he enjoyed taking bright young students and molding them into radicals. I am paraphrasing, but that was the sense of it.
I have never known a horseback poet: I can see some difficulties in writing legibly while trotting or galloping, and even in a slow walk! Do you use a tablet or cellphone?
I have never known a horseback poet: I can see some difficulties in writing legibly while trotting or galloping, and even in a slow walk! Do you use a tablet or cellphone?
I'm going to check out the Greening of America. It sounds very interesting.
I just throw my right leg around my saddle horn, use a small pad of paper that I lay on my knee. Easy breezy. I even have a special tree I like to sit under. Thick, plush, grass and it even has a little groove to sit back comfortably..I just drop the reins for Jersey and she gets her fill of grass. Outdoors is a wonderful thing. : )
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