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Aug 26, 2017 08:37:03   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
PeterS wrote:
Women, Hispanics, Native Americans, and B****s currently qualify for affirmative action. Is having a vagina a birth defect too?


Do you believe Affirmative Action works??

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Aug 26, 2017 08:43:06   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
lindajoy wrote:
Do you believe Affirmative Action works??


That depends on what he thinks the objective was.

We can see what it's done and what it hasn't done.

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Aug 26, 2017 08:43:17   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
PeterS wrote:
If you think the polls are wrong then what are you basing your accusations on?


What I have witnessed in its unfolding, all the debatable contentions we've covered many times now along with being involved in it workwise..

It sucks the very air we breath from us while taking enough in premiums and deductibles to make it unaffordable and break us while dying waiting on trying to see a Dr.. perhaps 6 weeks later or 3 months down the road..

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Aug 26, 2017 08:45:19   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Super Dave wrote:
That depends on what he thinks the objective was.

We can see what it's done and what it hasn't done.


Agreed, Dave, we can but so many others can not.. Thus my inquiry to Peter.. Curious as to what he believes about it..

Good Morning to you..

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Aug 26, 2017 08:52:46   #
PeterS
 
Super Dave wrote:
So poor w****s get a Pell Grant but still lose scholarships and seatd to a less qualified rich black child that didn't work as hard... Super.

Handouts aren't the solution, Dumpkins.

The solution is to encourage hard work, not r****m.

Scholarships aren't normally based on race but academics and need. A poor white child can get a pell grant, work study, academic scholarship, and so long as their scores are high enough no darkie can bump them out. If they work hard enough no one can keep them out but if they are just going to do barely enough to qualify then yes, some uppity n****r might just take their place...lifes soooo unfair isn't it...

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Aug 26, 2017 08:57:14   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Super Dave wrote:
Affirmative action assumes that black skin is a birth defect.

The idea of giving Obama's children a r****t preference over some barefoot snaggle-toothed Appalachian child is stupid on it's face.

There have been many efforts to make affirmative action something that all poor people can get, and no rich people can get... Democrats shot it down every time.

Democrats need near complete obedience from black v**ers to maintain any power at all.

Their way of getting that slavish obediences is:
1) Demonize b****s that think for themselves, achieve greatness, and choose conservatism, like Justice Thomas.
2) Convincing b****s that they are inherently inferior and must have big government to allow them to compete with to some poor inbred white kid of a meth-head.
3) Keep as many b****s as possible hand-out/palm-up by keeping the girls pregnant and their houses full of bastard children and keeping the boys uneducated and unemployed. Keep as many of them as possible from living a moral, honorable life. This keeps them from having any self-esteem, and having any hope of achieving the American dream.

Affirmative Action reinforces to b****s that they are inferior.

Black leaders suck onto it like a kid with a fresh Popsicle.
Affirmative action assumes that black skin is a bi... (show quote)


AA does not assume black skin is a birth defect. The folks who assume that skin color (or g****r or sexual orientation) is a defect are the ones who chose to implement Jim Crow, or assumed that women are inferior to men, or that gays are somehow defective. AA is a clear rejection of that thinking.

The 'liberty' lost is that w****s are no longer free to discriminate in the public sphere without consequences, nor use government policy to enforce discrimination.

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Aug 26, 2017 08:57:53   #
PeterS
 
lindajoy wrote:
What I have witnessed in its unfolding, all the debatable contentions we've covered many times now along with being involved in it workwise..

It sucks the very air we breath from us while taking enough in premiums and deductibles to make it unaffordable and break us while dying waiting on trying to see a Dr.. perhaps 6 weeks later or 3 months down the road..

Sorry Linda but my premiums and deductibles are affordable and the longest it's taken me to see a doctor is 4 weeks. If that's the problem though than that's what congress should work to fix isn't it.

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Aug 26, 2017 09:25:50   #
Morgan
 
Super Dave wrote:
To begin with, Government given rights.

Paychecks are taxed and redistributed by political who naturally have favorites. Favorites who's support reelect them. Power corrupts....Etc...

But a right to "Equal Treatment" is the obvious choice, since the whole purpose of AA is to deny equal treatment.




Where and how do you guys come up with affirming the complete opposite? No, the AA is to "prevent" bias. It is a protection...geeeez Dave no offense but it sounds to me as if you've lived a very privileged life, have you ever been in a circumstance where you were biased against, ever?

if it makes you feel any better, I'm against bigotry but at this point also against favoritism, have people be accepted by their qualifications and be done with it, anything else just causes more discontention.

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Aug 26, 2017 09:37:07   #
Morgan
 
working class stiff wrote:
AA does not assume black skin is a birth defect. The folks who assume that skin color (or g****r or sexual orientation) is a defect are the ones who chose to implement Jim Crow, or assumed that women are inferior to men, or that gays are somehow defective. AA is a clear rejection of that thinking.

The 'liberty' lost is that w****s are no longer free to discriminate in the public sphere without consequences, nor use government policy to enforce discrimination.






It's hard for people to lose their place in the front of the line all of the time.

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Aug 26, 2017 09:54:31   #
Morgan
 
Super Dave wrote:
Affirmative action assumes that black skin is a birth defect.

The idea of giving Obama's children a r****t preference over some barefoot snaggle-toothed Appalachian child is stupid on it's face.

There have been many efforts to make affirmative action something that all poor people can get, and no rich people can get... Democrats shot it down every time.

Democrats need near complete obedience from black v**ers to maintain any power at all.

Their way of getting that slavish obediences is:
1) Demonize b****s that think for themselves, achieve greatness, and choose conservatism, like Justice Thomas.
2) Convincing b****s that they are inherently inferior and must have big government to allow them to compete with to some poor inbred white kid of a meth-head.
3) Keep as many b****s as possible hand-out/palm-up by keeping the girls pregnant and their houses full of bastard children and keeping the boys uneducated and unemployed. Keep as many of them as possible from living a moral, honorable life. This keeps them from having any self-esteem, and having any hope of achieving the American dream.

Affirmative Action reinforces to b****s that they are inferior.

Black leaders suck onto it like a kid with a fresh Popsicle.
Affirmative action assumes that black skin is a bi... (show quote)





Your #3 isn't from the government or AA but from their own environment and upbringing, things that can all be changed, but that is another social issue which you probably don't want to hear about. But maybe our focus should be on our weakest links, the children being brought up in these violent inner cities, who don't have good schools, and their role model is the top gangster. It will change on its own in time as b****s have more people of color set good examples for them, but there are things we can do to help promote that advancement, without favoritism.

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Aug 26, 2017 13:25:43   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
working class stiff wrote:
AA does not assume black skin is a birth defect. The folks who assume that skin color (or g****r or sexual orientation) is a defect are the ones who chose to implement Jim Crow, or assumed that women are inferior to men, or that gays are somehow defective. AA is a clear rejection of that thinking.

The 'liberty' lost is that w****s are no longer free to discriminate in the public sphere without consequences, nor use government policy to enforce discrimination.


Yet b****s can and do all the time...

Amazing how so many other ethnic groups have risen above their poverty and find working rewarding.. Why are the b****s still so dependent?? They have the very same rights as anyone else..
And don't tell me because the w****s suppress them.. The government on the other hand throw pittance their way to keep them tied to them for that v**e latter..

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Aug 26, 2017 13:25:47   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Morgan wrote:
Really, the Koch's have so much money they're one of the main manipulators of our government, you don't think they assisted in getting Trump in the Whitehouse, they wanted that pipeline and come hell or high water they were going to get it and they did didn't they... and they got it. It was all in place as soon as he "won". Oil, big money that has owned this country. Why do you think we never promoted more trains for mass t***sit, versus car and planes. here's another manipulation,

Free Market’ Republicans Give the Koch Brothers and ALEC a Monopoly Over Ohio’s Energy"

snipit,

The Koch brothers who use their substantial fortunes to buy conservative politicians and anything their f*****t hearts desire, but their billions-of-dollars cannot buy the Sun or the wind to maintain their monopoly supplying dirty energy. However, they can buy Republican legislators to pass the Koch’s American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) template legislation to eradicate solar and wind competition. Unfortunately for Ohio residents, the Kochs and ALEC celebrated their first success restricting consumers from accessing the Sun and wind for their electrical power needs. Maybe the Koch’s cannot buy and eliminate the Sun, but they can, and will, prohibit its use.

Across America many states, and consumers, are overwhelmingly moving to embrace cheaper, cleaner, and renewable wind and solar energy, including Ohio v**ers who are strongly in favor of clean energy standards. The Koch brothers and ALEC could not care less what Ohio v**ers want and on Wednesday the state’s legislature passed an ALEC bill that rolls back its renewable energy standard (RES) and freezes mandates requiring utilities to add clean alternative energy. The now-dead RES required utilities to get 25% of their power from wind, solar, and (not) clean coal production by 2025, but there was no chance the Koch’s were going to allow a competing commodity to cut into their monopoly. ALEC alumnus and Ohio Governor John Kasich is expected to sign the ALEC-Koch legislation into law despite Ohio v**ers and a conservative business organizations’ objections.

To be clear I'm not picking one side over the other, but rather debating the fact you said it's mostly liberals, with that I disagree. Monopolies are not good for the country competition and the the best competitive price for the consumer. I would rather see 20 locally owned businesses that one giant store like Walmart.
Really, the Koch's have so much money they're one ... (show quote)


Looks to me like the kettle is calling the pot black. George Soros has control of more area's in our economic system and political groups than the Koch Bros ever will have. How in the world can you explain that wind power is producing a viable product when they are paid even when the turbines are not producing power? I do agree that solar power in the future could be a money savings for all Americans but that is far off in the future unless a better solar panel is invented. If there were more local stores than those like Walmart the poor person would be hurt more than people in the middle class because prices would be high because, of the stores not being able to buy in a large quantity.

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Aug 26, 2017 13:33:07   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
PeterS wrote:
Sorry Linda but my premiums and deductibles are affordable and the longest it's taken me to see a doctor is 4 weeks. If that's the problem though than that's what congress should work to fix isn't it.


It's always been the problem and no government doesn't belong in our lives or illnesses.. They screwed it up worse than what we had..

If they wanted everyone insured as they claim why didn't they offer up something to the uninsured and left the rest of us alone??

Answer; a further move to Socialism mandating health coverage without a v**e..

Now it's so screwed up it isn't fixable other than that socialistic movement towards the single payer which is what they wanted all along...Nothing ironic that the answer to it was single payer introduced by the Dems.. Did that surprise you it sure did not me..

As for your premiums I'm glad you have that.. You are the ecxception to it is all.. I hope it stays that way but don't foresee that taking place.. As a matter of fact I will unequivocally state that they will change....

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Aug 26, 2017 13:40:30   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
PeterS wrote:
Poor people qualify for Pell Grants and if they go to community college can get their first two years of college free. Doesn't a college education equalize the chances of the poor. And any barefooted rotten toothed Appalachian child that can academically qualify for Harvard won't be bumped by either of Obama's kids. Don't worry your pretty little head.

And guess which party keeps cutting funding for Pell Grants. You guessed it--republican--the same party that does everything it can to destroy education for everyone.
Poor people qualify for Pell Grants and if they go... (show quote)


Republicans espouse education; Democrats espouse indoctrination.

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Aug 26, 2017 13:40:53   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Morgan wrote:
Your #3 isn't from the government or AA but from their own environment and upbringing, things that can all be changed, but that is another social issue which you probably don't want to hear about. But maybe our focus should be on our weakest links, the children being brought up in these violent inner cities, who don't have good schools, and their role model is the top gangster. It will change on its own in time as b****s have more people of color set good examples for them, but there are things we can do to help promote that advancement, without favoritism.
Your #3 isn't from the government or AA but from t... (show quote)


The thing that is needed to for these women of all races is to quit having babies just so they can get more money from the government. They need to have protection from having children not more money from the government. If there were to be a limit on how many children a unwed mother could have before child support was stopped. I believe one child should be he limit for a unwed mother and after that no more money from the government. That may seem cruel but if they can not support the child then they should not have them. If a man wants to have sex with many women he should be neutered or make sure he has protection.

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