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I'm sorry you feel that way
Aug 17, 2017 10:24:24   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
That's my standard response to someone who confronts me personally. That's a face to face confrontation mind you, not a fictitious online cartoon. I love to have discussions with people, I even like to argue from time to time, but only with people that have the same attitude for such things as I do, otherwise, it just gets nasty and not fun anymore. I have been confronted from time to time, by someone who wanted to explain how wrong I was about wh**ever, and I listened to them - up to a point. The point of "not interested anymore" is reached when I realize the person does not want a discussion, they just want to preach at me. I don't mind at all when folks disagree with me and express that disagreement, that's how discussions work. If I only wanted to talk to folks that agreed, I could talk to a mirror.

I've attempted to end a discussion, when it has reached that "point" I mentioned, only to have the person pursue me and keep yaking at me. I always thought that behavior odd. Why keep preaching at someone who has already expressed that they're not interested? So, I did what I usually do - I asked. It turns out, it wasn't about me at all, it was about meeting some obscure need in the person aggravating me, a need they themselves often weren't even conscious of. When I clearly state that I'm not going to change my mind and have no interest in trying to change theirs, what point is there to keep the discussion going? It seems that some folks need to vent at someone else, a condition I often avail myself of as well, and it's harmless...............right up until you become insistent and violate the basic rights of that "someone" to end the conversation.

When someone confronts me and just wants to preach, I'll wait until they draw a breath then say " I'm sorry you feel that way" and walk away. Preachers are not interested in anyone else's thoughts on the subject, so a discussion isn't possible anyway. I see no value in arguing with someone who is not interested in my opinion or thoughts, and I see no value in trying to browbeat someone else, as though I think I'll change their minds. I'll have my say, present my case, and wait for comments to begin the discussion. If the comments are similar to "you're an i***t", then I know a discussion isn't possible and I'm done. You can be pissed as hell about what I say, and I'll just tell you "I'm sorry you feel that way" and move on. You have a right to wh**ever it is you think or feel, and I have a right not to have you preach to me about it. If you truly believe that your opinion has merit, then you should be willing to have it tested in a discussion, rather than make a sermon out of it.

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Aug 17, 2017 11:43:35   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
lpnmajor wrote:
That's my standard response to someone who confronts me personally. That's a face to face confrontation mind you, not a fictitious online cartoon. I love to have discussions with people, I even like to argue from time to time, but only with people that have the same attitude for such things as I do, otherwise, it just gets nasty and not fun anymore. I have been confronted from time to time, by someone who wanted to explain how wrong I was about wh**ever, and I listened to them - up to a point. The point of "not interested anymore" is reached when I realize the person does not want a discussion, they just want to preach at me. I don't mind at all when folks disagree with me and express that disagreement, that's how discussions work. If I only wanted to talk to folks that agreed, I could talk to a mirror.

I've attempted to end a discussion, when it has reached that "point" I mentioned, only to have the person pursue me and keep yaking at me. I always thought that behavior odd. Why keep preaching at someone who has already expressed that they're not interested? So, I did what I usually do - I asked. It turns out, it wasn't about me at all, it was about meeting some obscure need in the person aggravating me, a need they themselves often weren't even conscious of. When I clearly state that I'm not going to change my mind and have no interest in trying to change theirs, what point is there to keep the discussion going? It seems that some folks need to vent at someone else, a condition I often avail myself of as well, and it's harmless...............right up until you become insistent and violate the basic rights of that "someone" to end the conversation.

When someone confronts me and just wants to preach, I'll wait until they draw a breath then say " I'm sorry you feel that way" and walk away. Preachers are not interested in anyone else's thoughts on the subject, so a discussion isn't possible anyway. I see no value in arguing with someone who is not interested in my opinion or thoughts, and I see no value in trying to browbeat someone else, as though I think I'll change their minds. I'll have my say, present my case, and wait for comments to begin the discussion. If the comments are similar to "you're an i***t", then I know a discussion isn't possible and I'm done. You can be pissed as hell about what I say, and I'll just tell you "I'm sorry you feel that way" and move on. You have a right to wh**ever it is you think or feel, and I have a right not to have you preach to me about it. If you truly believe that your opinion has merit, then you should be willing to have it tested in a discussion, rather than make a sermon out of it.
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Now who the hell would want to preach to a loon like you? Walk away you say? Oh lord you are so ripe! Try jumping off a very tall high rise building.....have some backbone and common decency for once in your entire life time and do humanity a favor...WORM!

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Aug 17, 2017 12:16:57   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Doc, I have found you as having the backbone to voice your honest opinions. This remains true, even when addressing an audience that isn't always conducive to reading words of reason and a logic different than their own. I also find you with the all-to-uncommon decency to treat others on the forum with respect, albeit often with a mischievous sense of humor...even to the point of being self-deprecating in nature.

Even when in disagreement, I always find your point-of-view discussions worthy of my attention. Yet, I can't recall you ever preaching...nor do you pass a collection plate. That's good, 'cause I can only pay attention.

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Aug 17, 2017 12:49:37   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
lpnmajor wrote:
That's my standard response to someone who confronts me personally. That's a face to face confrontation mind you, not a fictitious online cartoon. I love to have discussions with people, I even like to argue from time to time, but only with people that have the same attitude for such things as I do, otherwise, it just gets nasty and not fun anymore. I have been confronted from time to time, by someone who wanted to explain how wrong I was about wh**ever, and I listened to them - up to a point. The point of "not interested anymore" is reached when I realize the person does not want a discussion, they just want to preach at me. I don't mind at all when folks disagree with me and express that disagreement, that's how discussions work. If I only wanted to talk to folks that agreed, I could talk to a mirror.

I've attempted to end a discussion, when it has reached that "point" I mentioned, only to have the person pursue me and keep yaking at me. I always thought that behavior odd. Why keep preaching at someone who has already expressed that they're not interested? So, I did what I usually do - I asked. It turns out, it wasn't about me at all, it was about meeting some obscure need in the person aggravating me, a need they themselves often weren't even conscious of. When I clearly state that I'm not going to change my mind and have no interest in trying to change theirs, what point is there to keep the discussion going? It seems that some folks need to vent at someone else, a condition I often avail myself of as well, and it's harmless...............right up until you become insistent and violate the basic rights of that "someone" to end the conversation.

When someone confronts me and just wants to preach, I'll wait until they draw a breath then say " I'm sorry you feel that way" and walk away. Preachers are not interested in anyone else's thoughts on the subject, so a discussion isn't possible anyway. I see no value in arguing with someone who is not interested in my opinion or thoughts, and I see no value in trying to browbeat someone else, as though I think I'll change their minds. I'll have my say, present my case, and wait for comments to begin the discussion. If the comments are similar to "you're an i***t", then I know a discussion isn't possible and I'm done. You can be pissed as hell about what I say, and I'll just tell you "I'm sorry you feel that way" and move on. You have a right to wh**ever it is you think or feel, and I have a right not to have you preach to me about it. If you truly believe that your opinion has merit, then you should be willing to have it tested in a discussion, rather than make a sermon out of it.
That's my standard response to someone who confron... (show quote)


My response is totally different I always say "I am sorry you THINK that way." Feeling is done in the animal part of the brain, and requires no thinking. I want responses from the higher part of the brain, the part that thinks. But then I AM A CONSERVATIVE

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Aug 17, 2017 14:47:41   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Doc, I have found you as having the backbone to voice your honest opinions. This remains true, even when addressing an audience that isn't always conducive to reading words of reason and a logic different than their own. I also find you with the all-to-uncommon decency to treat others on the forum with respect, albeit often with a mischievous sense of humor...even to the point of being self-deprecating in nature.

Even when in disagreement, I always find your point-of-view discussions worthy of my attention. Yet, I can't recall you ever preaching...nor do you pass a collection plate. That's good, 'cause I can only pay attention.
Doc, I have found you as having the backbone to vo... (show quote)


Why thank you sir.

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Aug 17, 2017 14:52:02   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
no propaganda please wrote:
My response is totally different I always say "I am sorry you THINK that way." Feeling is done in the animal part of the brain, and requires no thinking. I want responses from the higher part of the brain, the part that thinks. But then I AM A CONSERVATIVE


How many people do you know that argue to no particular end? It isn't logical to beat a dead horse, but folks do it anyway.........because it makes them FEEL better. I use the word "feel" rather than "think" on purpose - due to the fact that whoever I must say it to isn't thinking. So far, I've found very little to differentiate between ideological stances, in regards to the numbers that "feel" that they are right and everyone else wrong.

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Aug 17, 2017 14:53:30   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
America Only wrote:
Now who the hell would want to preach to a loon like you? Walk away you say? Oh lord you are so ripe! Try jumping off a very tall high rise building.....have some backbone and common decency for once in your entire life time and do humanity a favor...WORM!


Well, I'm sorry you feel that way. I hope you get better real soon.

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Aug 17, 2017 15:15:20   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Well, I'm sorry you feel that way. I hope you get better real soon.


That IS the correct use of feel, and obviously the only thing that was in play was feelings not any thought what so ever.

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Aug 17, 2017 15:27:18   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
no propaganda please wrote:
That IS the correct use of feel, and obviously the only thing that was in play was feelings not any thought what so ever.



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