North Korea launches at Guam, what would you do? (Page 9): Doc, There are 3 basic type of people on the planet. 1. Those that - '' Make things happen '' 2. Those the say

okie don

Doc,
There are 3 basic type of people on the planet.
1. Those that - '' Make things happen ''
2. Those the say - " I'll be damned, look what's happening"!
3. Those that say = " What 'th hell happened?"

You can figure out what category your dealing with.

Gatsby

The question is clear: North Korea launches at Guam, what would you do?

Do you have any suggestions, other than wetting your pants and whinning about acceptance?

PeterS wrote:

So because they were banned by the UN then we have a right to act using maximum force against them? Didn't we act as the UN police force when forcing Saddam out? How did that work out for us?

Maintaining the Status Quo doesn't mean never learning. Those who never learn from history are condemned to repeat it...or some such anyway...

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

okie don wrote:

Doc,
There are 3 basic type of people on the planet.
1. Those that - '' Make things happen ''
2. Those the say - " I'll be damned, look what's happening"!
3. Those that say = " What 'th hell happened?"

You can figure out what category your dealing with.

I took a poll and tabulated the results. It's official. He's an i***t pansy.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

PeterS wrote:

And what part of the topic haven't I stuck to? Simply because you lack the patience to read my posts doesn't mean I haven't responded.

The topic is that NK attacks Guam first, not we attack NK unprovoked. Got that?

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

PeterS wrote:

So because they were banned by the UN then we have a right to act using maximum force against them? Didn't we act as the UN police force when forcing Saddam out? How did that work out for us?

Maintaining the Status Quo doesn't mean never learning. Those who never learn from history are condemned to repeat it...or some such anyway...

The one who never learns is the fool who slaps the gorilla.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

PeterS wrote:

You didn't answer my question. If you shoot first China will come to NK rescue and that will most likely involve their use of nukes on us. So by trying to prevent NK from nuking us, China does the favor for them--much more efficiently I might add. So who gained what by your action?

Only a madman invites full out nuclear war. So are you a madman or are you sane. That's the only question you need to answer...

How do you stand up to a bully? Pete answer that question. If we shoot N. Korea first, China will condemn our attack, but I honestly think that China and Russia both are saine and will not interfere. The reason I say this is that Donald Trump already proved that he is not afraid of firing missiles into hostile territory. So the world knows that Trump will attack if attack is warranted.

I believe that Trump should do what he is doing and more. Look to stop a bully on the playground, knowing there really isn't any authority around to run to, you must fight or take flight. Now, we have appeased N. Korea like we appeased Hitler when he took over Poland. With this being said, my second question to you is when do we fight, now or later? The fight is inevitable, but would it be wise to defend our national security now or later. If we do it now, then we have a chance to stop multiple nuclear weapons, if we wait until they can hit Washington, DC, then the war is over.

Yes we are in between a rock and a hard place. If we strike the world would condemn us but will not act. If we do not strike and taunt N. Korea like we are taunted by N. Korea, then we force their hand. If they strike, our missile defense system will take out their missiles however we then have the green light to police the area. This is the way I see it. Does anyone else agree with me?

PeterS

Ranger7374 wrote:

How do you stand up to a bully? Pete answer that q... (show quote)

You would be pressing the button not knowing the outcome. There is nothing sane about that. The assumption is that NK leadership is willing to commit suicide simply over a ploy--or would we commit murder over the same. Either way, nothing is lost by waiting to see what happens until the missiles hit. If they are carrying a warhead we are justified in vaporizing the entire country otherwise it was a cheap trick and nothing to lose sleep about.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

PeterS wrote:

You would be pressing the button not knowing the outcome. There is nothing sane about that. The assumption is that NK leadership is willing to commit suicide simply over a ploy--or would we commit murder over the same. Either way, nothing is lost by waiting to see what happens until the missiles hit. If they are carrying a warhead we are justified in vaporizing the entire country otherwise it was a cheap trick and nothing to lose sleep about.

It's a war of words. A wise man will wait, which is what I've been saying. A fool will preemtively strike.

Gener

PeterS wrote:

You would be pressing the button not knowing the outcome. There is nothing sane about that. The assumption is that NK leadership is willing to commit suicide simply over a ploy--or would we commit murder over the same. Either way, nothing is lost by waiting to see what happens until the missiles hit. If they are carrying a warhead we are justified in vaporizing the entire country otherwise it was a cheap trick and nothing to lose sleep about.

You are out of your mind! We have the capability of knocking down missiles. Why in the wh**ever would you not use that capability? This is ridiculous Peter. Absolutely ridiculous.

Gatsby

PeterS: You have made it clear that you promote sacrificing 60,000 American lives, then use that as an excuse

to k**l 12,000,000 innocent North Korean CIVILIANS! That is exactly the kind of idiocy that has put U.S. in this situation!

Kim Jong Un is even now back-peddeling in fear of President Trump and America's might!

While China has stated that they will not support North Korea if they strike first,

Australia, Japan and South Korea have declared their unconditional support for U.S. if NK launches a strike.

It looks like you are the ODD man out, again!

PeterS wrote:

You would be pressing the button not knowing the outcome. There is nothing sane about that. The assumption is that NK leadership is willing to commit suicide simply over a ploy--or would we commit murder over the same. Either way, nothing is lost by waiting to see what happens until the missiles hit. If they are carrying a warhead we are justified in vaporizing the entire country otherwise it was a cheap trick and nothing to lose sleep about.

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of course and Trump will do it.

Ranger7374 wrote:

How do you stand up to a bully? Pete answer that q... (show quote)

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

PeterS wrote:

You would be pressing the button not knowing the outcome. There is nothing sane about that. The assumption is that NK leadership is willing to commit suicide simply over a ploy--or would we commit murder over the same. Either way, nothing is lost by waiting to see what happens until the missiles hit. If they are carrying a warhead we are justified in vaporizing the entire country otherwise it was a cheap trick and nothing to lose sleep about.

Why allow the insane dictator the opportunity to launch? He has made the threat. He doesn't have the capability to get.past our defense shield currently so why would you wait until he does?

Apparently you've never been in a fight. If a bully threatens you, is your answer to wait until he attacks you? Then what? Do you believe being on the defense is a more viable position than being on the offense?

More importantly, do you understand the president's oath to protect and defend? Is waiting for the enemy to strike first after he has threatened to do so, protecting and defending? If you believe it is then I have found your flaw in all this.

The gorilla growls and beats his chest, and then makes a mock rush at you. If you have any brains at all you back way off and disappear. If you are stupid or insane you don't back off. If you are suicidal you threaten. If you threaten, the gorilla will not wait for your attack. The gorilla will take you out.

Lesson: do not threaten a gorilla.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Ranger7374 wrote:

How do you stand up to a bully? Pete answer that q... (show quote)

The entire premise of this thread is that NK launches at Guam. Pete wants to wait until the missiles hit so he can decide how hard to hit back.

The launch is an act of war. At the same second we launch to shoot down the incoming, we also launch to take out Too Fat because I guarantee we always know exactly where he is.

End of story.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

PeterS wrote:

You would be pressing the button not knowing the outcome. There is nothing sane about that. The assumption is that NK leadership is willing to commit suicide simply over a ploy--or would we commit murder over the same. Either way, nothing is lost by waiting to see what happens until the missiles hit. If they are carrying a warhead we are justified in vaporizing the entire country otherwise it was a cheap trick and nothing to lose sleep about.

The outcome is a given. Too Fat is gone.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

PeterS wrote:

You would be pressing the button not knowing the outcome. There is nothing sane about that. The assumption is that NK leadership is willing to commit suicide simply over a ploy--or would we commit murder over the same. Either way, nothing is lost by waiting to see what happens until the missiles hit. If they are carrying a warhead we are justified in vaporizing the entire country otherwise it was a cheap trick and nothing to lose sleep about.

Why would you vaporize the entire country? Are you nuts? You're worse than the people you are trying to make look bad here. The citizens of NK are not the problem.

Apparently you have no concept of our intelligence capabilities. We know where Too Far is.....always. a secret was slipped in 1964 that apparently got past you.