pana Loc: are we there yet?

If these cops don't have enough evidence based on what they already have then no knock search warrants are being given out to freely. If they are worried the person might destroy the evidence then they are breaking into homes on evidence that MIGHT exist.
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It is any husband and father’s greatest fear. You’re sleeping in your bed in the middle of the night when a group of intruders breaks in. Are they here to rob you? Are they here to bring physical harm to your wife or children? To k**l you and your family?

I think many of us believe that in a moment like that our response would be almost reflexive – we’d grab wh**ever we could and fight to defend our family.

That doesn’t sound too controversial – does it?

In Texas this exact situation played out. A man found his home broken into in the middle of the night by a group of armed men. His first reaction? He grabbed his gun (which he owned legally) and opened fire on the armed men.

decideThe problem for this homeowner? The armed men who had kicked down his door were police officers executing a warrant. The police had a warrant to search for marijuana and illegal weapons.

A local grand jury declined Wednesday to indict Henry Goedrich Magee for the December death of Burleson County Sgt. Adam Sowders, who was part of a group of investigators executing a search warrant for Magee's rural home.

Sowders and other officers entered the home about 90 miles northwest of Houston without knocking just before 6 a.m. Authorities were looking for guns and marijuana…

'This was a terrible tragedy that a deputy sheriff was k**led, but Hank Magee believed that he and his pregnant girlfriend were being robbed,' DeGuerin said in an interview Thursday.

'He did what a lot of people would have done,' DeGuerin added. 'He defended himself and his girlfriend and his home.'

While the District Attorney believes that the police did act correctly and announced themselves prior to their entrance, she understands that the jury thought there was not enough evidence to show that the homeowner knew that it was the police entering his home that early morning. While the police claim to have announced themselves, this continues the growing trend of execution of “No-Knock” warrants. If the police enter a premises without announcing themselves first – more of these “accidental” deaths will continue to happen… on both sides.




Just a few years ago, police in Atlanta k**led an innocent woman in her home while executing a “no-knock” warrant raid on the wrong residence.

“No-knock” raids are utilized in an effort to catch offenders by surprise – but when being executed on average American citizens, they are more likely to put everyone in danger. Police and suspect included. How many of us law abiding citizens own firearms? Our first response to a no-knock raid would be to grab our gun and shoot… especially in the dark of the night, when we are all that stand between our families and violence.

Our government and police forces MUST stop “No-Knock” raids. For everyone’s sake.

Loki Loc: Georgia

The BATFE won't like that. But then, committing crimes worse than many that they prosecute is SOP for these clowns.

jay-are

Was Magee the guy they were looking for, and did he have illegal marijuana and guns?

I suppose they indicted him for the illegal contraband, just not for the k*****g. That makes sense to me.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Well at least the Grand Jury got it right. Score one for Magee, O for the Gestapo.

pana Loc: are we there yet?

The gun was legal and there is no mention of drugs so I assume they found none.

jay-are

Do you think it is wise to make that assumption.

The fact that they leave out more than half of every story is why I don't trust any of these stories. The story is about fitting into their agenda, instead of about reporting all the facts and information.

I say just give me all the facts and information, or I am not going to swallow your slanted viewpoint. There must be a reason why the story did not mention whether they found drugs, etc. I can't read the story without asking myself why they left out half of the information, and that makes me tend to distrust the source.

pana Loc: are we there yet?

That info is not available at this time is what I found.
"Renken said the search warrant being executed Thursday was related to drugs, but said she could not comment on the warrant until it was officially filed in court records, which could be later this week. Labertew declined to comment on the warrant, and the Burleson County district clerk's office did not have a copy Monday morning."

jay-are

You are very trusting. I am more skeptical, probably even cynical.

pana Loc: are we there yet?

Even if he had weed in his house I do not see things like credit card fraud and weed as a reason to break peoples door down.
That is the chance they take.

jay-are

So you support the premise of the story, because it reinforces your bias. Don't get me wrong, I have the same bias. I don't approve of breaking down people's doors. But I recognize the bias of the story, and I realize that I am not getting the whole story, so I am not going to make a final assesment of the rightness or wrongness based on that story.

I demand the rest of the story, the whole story, before deciding. Getting people to make such snap decisions based on partial information is called propaganda, and I make every effort to recognize it and to prevent being manipulated by it.

pana Loc: are we there yet?

The rest of the story is not available till the warrant is filed. I had no other information to post other than what I posted.
There have been enough stories of 80 year old women been mauled by police dogs while they sleep and being in the wrong house and police shooting the family dog that I lean towards this type of no knock warrant invasion is unconstitutional. Especially since through the NDAA act they have proclaimed and disregarded the constitution by creating laws that cover their actions.

jay-are

I understand. You admit you make unsubstantiated assumptions, and you admit your bias. You admit that you don't demand the whole story before deciding how to judge.

You would be a juror, that the lawyers would know they could manipulate.

Fortunately, the geniuses who created our system set it up such that you must acquit if there is a reasonable doubt, not that you must convict if you have a reasonable assumption of guilt.

pana Loc: are we there yet?

Thanks for proving my point for me. He is not being prosecuted for the murder of the cop.
Glad you finally came around.

jay-are

I agree. And the police are not being prosecuted for breaking down his door unconstitutionally.

Maybe they should be, but I cannot decide that until I hear the whole story.

pana Loc: are we there yet?

Of course they aren't.
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