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Jesus Was Wrong About Greed
by Erick Erickson

Jesus was wrong about greed. There is nothing wrong with the accumulation of wealth. It gives me peace of mind. It makes it so I can, if I want, take care of others and be generous. It is my money. I should be able to do with it as I want.

With more and more money, I can accumulate nice houses and eventually a private airplane. I could then fly friends and family around and provide them nice vacations. I would not have to rely on Jesus so much with prayers begging him for things. I could just cut a check.

I think, given the comforts and abilities that come with the accumulation of great wealth, Jesus was clearly wrong about greed and I should be able to ignore him.

Now, I realize you may think I am wrong, but if Christians don’t want to engage perspectives that argue Jesus’ knowledge was limited and sometimes wrong, they should close the gospels.

I should stop here and note that none of this is my argument. It is actually the argument of a millennial homosexual named Brandon Ambrosino. To his credit, Ambrosino is willing to do what few homosexuals are willing to do and that is acknowledge that Jesus has, in fact, spoken on the issue of homosexuality. Ambrosino does not think Jesus was wrong about greed. He’d probably agree with Jesus on that one. But he thinks Jesus is wrong about homosexuality.

Ambrosino actually tweeted what I wrote above: “if Christians don’t want to engage perspectives that argue Jesus’ knowledge was limited and sometimes wrong, they should close the gospels.”

Because Ambrosino is gay, he thinks Jesus must be wrong about homosexuality. He tweeted “Today’s essay was inspired by the fight over whether Jesus was or wasn’t in support of homosexuality. He obviously wasn’t. And he was wrong.”

Note that the only reason Jesus is wrong is because Ambrosino does not want to admit the particular sin he wrestles with is actually a sin. So he concludes Jesus is wrong.

If Jesus is wrong, he cannot be a part of the trinity — He who spoke the world into existence must just be a philosopher. Reducing Jesus from the divine to a mere philosopher, gives Ambrosino the mental courage to ignore Jesus and scripture and proceed into the world as if nothing is wrong.

At this point, admitting Jesus is wrong on something marks Ambrosino’s departure from Christianity into heresy. Contrary to Ambrosino’s tweet, Christians have wrestled with the idea of Jesus being just a human. Going back to AD 325 and the Council of Nicaea, then the Council of Constantinople in 381, then the Council of Ephesus in 431, and the Council of Chalcedon in 451, among others.

The early Christian Church confirmed that Christ was fully man, but also fully God. He was without error because he was God. He could not, in human nature, tell you in AD 30 what he thought of Beethoven’s 5th Symphony and he could not tell you the chemical formula of benzene, because his human nature would have precluded that during his time on earth. But he also could not lie, sin, or commit error in his statements because his divine nature precluded that.

Now, if you are not a Christian, you do not have to believe that. But if you are a Christian, you must. It is basic Christian theology. Christ was fully God and fully man and therefore without error in his statements and deeds.

As an aside here, Brandon Ambrosino went to Liberty University and penned an article about his time there. Media Matters attacked Vox.com for hiring Brandon because he dared go to a Christian university. Christians were quite charitable to Brandon during his time at Liberty and we should continue to be. He is not with the Lord and we cannot pass judgment on him. We should pray for him. But we should not hesitate to not only point out that he is wrong, but that he is also completely ignorant of the first 1000 years of church history.

flagit001

Wow you sound like a hypocrite hope you come back to earth!

robmull Loc: florida

As "WE" well-know, it's ALL God's money, Cam12, as-is with everything else "under-the-Son." It's funny {peculiar, not Ha, ha}, that the gradual c*******t {"lefty"} influence in our Western free-market education, culture and civilization, in general, that has passively {in the past}, permitted God to be thrown out of that very education and culture. The education that began in America with ONLY a Holy Bible, {"The Word"}, to become the greatest, most humanitarian, most powerful, God-fearing nation the world had-ever-known, that "WE" are now, since the "buyers (R)emorse" in early 2008, slowly, with strong but fruitless "earthly resistance," "MAKING {AMERICA} SAFE, PROSPEROUS AND GREAT AGAIN;" and "LEFTY" CAN'T STAND IT!!! And criminal i*****l a***ns and radical Islam are "OUTRAGED!!! All that tedious, (D)eceptive, "fundamental t***sformation" work, 24/7/365, for circa 120 years, (R)ight (D)own the (D)rain!!! Hummmmmm. What IS that "crushing" noise I keep hearing? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN-AGAIN, GOD-FEARING} TRUMP (R); JUST LIKE THE WEATHER!!!

out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State

Amen!

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

Denial is the vehicle which keeps their justification of their perversion moving.

vettelover Loc: Richmond Va

Greed and wealth accumulation are two completely different subjects.

robmull Loc: florida

I just don't understand how there are people worth hundred$ of billion$ of dollar$, vett, and other people and children sick and starving, and living in-the-street, directly in their shadows.

pappadeux Loc: Phoenix AZ

What Jesus meant regarding "greed" was riches obtained in a dishonest and excessive way. If you studied his simple teachings You would not have to show your 'smarts'? without all the self-serving 'blather.

Ve'hoe

Exactly,,,,,, hang on to that "jesus is wrong" thing,,,,,, I think Jesus said anything about homosexuality.... that is in Leviticus,,,,,,,

Just got to remember,,,, Jesus only gave a few warnings,,,, one was to p*******es,,,, and the other was "Many will say, Lord Lord,,,,, and I will say Away from me, I never knew ye"

I'd pay attention to that,,,, but its a free country, I fought for gay goobers right to spit in Jesus' face,,,, makes me sick, but I don't have a right to make him do anything

GRB777

If Jesus Christ was wrong, and was{is} as greedy as you clearly are; then mister you have no future. You couldn't create a blade of grass by way of your own ability. You have nothing to contribute because nothing belongs to you. Understand something, if that's possible, GOD doesn't need you to exist. You need him however. People like you that have a high opinion yourself and dare to pass judgement on your creator will not be around to bother humanity when the real judge, GOD, passes judgement on you.

out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State

And those so endowed seem to throw their excess to causes such as Planned Parenthood and g***n e****y. The creation of jobs is needed, but now there is the welfare dependency cycle to break. Millions sucked into the vortex of welfare. How do we remotivate the population. They have been sold a bill of goods, settling for less than mediocre lives, so many annihilated before they begin. So much wasted potential, such apathy. It appears unsurmountable.

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Having wealth isn't wrong in the scriptures however The love of money is the root of all evil.

These folks are living in their heaven but will spend eternity where there will be IN total torment where there will be the nashing of teeth and where the worm dieth not .

PeterS

What I love about Christianity is that if you don't like something you just pretend it doesn't exist. And people wonder why I think god a figment of mans imagination...

Ve'hoe

people don't "wonder why you think anything" we wonder if you actually do THINK,,,, nobody that I know spends any time wondering why you think anything,,,,,,

And I doubt whether god gives much concern,,whether you believe in him either.....

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

Well there is a time coming when you and all the others that think the same way will find out that the t***h is not a figment of mans imagination.

Only problem is the fact that the consequences will not be favorable you and the others will like and thus reap the results of non belief .