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Jul 29, 2017 14:51:17   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
D**G Q***N SOLDIER

By James Hovda on July 29, 2017 American politics, Free of Political Correctness, Ignored Political Reality, James Hovda, political commentary

D**G Q***N SOLDIER

If you really want to tick the Left off, then attack their people of minorities. If you say or do anything negative to b****s, Hispanics, Muslims, or the LBGT fan club, be prepared for an onslaught bombardment of h**e-vitriol that will be directed your way from all sides of the L*****t aisle of anti-America, anti-God, and anti-conservative ideologues who will certainly call you a r****t, bigot, h********c, Xenophobe, and politically brain-dead moron.

President Trump reversed Obama's rule on letting gays and t*********rs into the military. Ask most politicians, and they will agree that Trump had stepped out of line, because politicians play for the politically correct v**e, not for what is right, moral, and certainly not what the majority of the people want.

When polled, 94% of those in active service said that are not to hip with the LBGT fan club gracing their hallowed grounds of macho-ism. Even in old times, most rejected having women in the military because the service wasn't their place to be, unless it was in clerical or medical. Most cannot deal with the problems associated with having to carry women on the battlefield, for reasons that have been made quite clear. I know there are women who can out fight a man, as some women, pound for pound, look like Sumo wrestlers, and can probably carry a 100 lb backpack with no problem. For some, it could balance them out.

But I'm old school, and women don't belong on the front line of battle. If captured, they would not be taken care of in proper fashion, and could pose as a threat to secured information beyond telling their name, rank, and serial number to the enemy. And what if the soldier captured was a LBGT? After they settled down from a long laugh, I h**e to think how they would interrogate a LBGT and still remain serious.

So what is President Trump supposed to do with Obama's LBGTs? Many were let into the military so that the taxpayer could fund their t***sformation operation. Obama h**ed the military, and anything he could do to throw sawdust into the gear oil he would do. And, we all know how attached Obama was with t***s-wh**ever he is married to one.

President Trump did the right thing. The military is definitely no place for the LBGT fan club. It is hard enough to house men and women together, and now there is supposed to be barracks for others? We all know what goes on in ships who don't see port for weeks on end. Can you see a t****y swabbing the poop-deck? Can a LBGT even be trained to pack 100 lbs of gear, shoot to k**l, and take the lead in a nightly raid, jumping out of a helicopter in full gear? or would night-vision expose them more than they want to be exposed?

Don't get me wrong, as I have friends who are full members in the LBGT fan club. And if that is the bridge one wishes to cross, then let them pass. But I have to stand with Trump and not let them pass in being active service-people. God made man and women in His own image. Those in between were made by human image.

There are places for each sex, and one sex doesn't need to be forcing their way upon the other for some notion that both men and women are 100% equal. Take a look at the two, your eye sight should tell you different. It used to be a man's world out there. Each sex had their role to fill, but the politically correct feman**i liberation movement changed all that. I still do a double-take when I see a woman with a jackhammer in her hands, driving a front end loader, or hosing down a fire on a ladder-truck. It was hard enough to accept a woman pulling me over and tell me she needs to frisk me, don't pat the junk, sister!

Sure, many women have stepped up to take the place of a man, and more power to them IF they can 100% handle it in the same regards. Chivalry stops when a woman wants to play man. As I said, I'm old fashion, and when women stepped out of the home to become part of corporate America and have a career, she neglected her family, and thus we now have more divorce, more lesbians, spoiled cry-baby children, and dirtier homes with fat people because they eat a dinner of junk food instead of a well-balanced meal cooked by mom.

The need of two incomes drove mom to the factory, retail store, and offices. Many women wanted to have not just a good income, but a great income, because many women one day decided they no longer needed a man in their life to give them riches in exchange for sex, a clean home, and a hot meal. Day care centers and baby sitters became an urgency, and today's cost to watch a child will zap 50% of your pay in a heartbeat. Many children see mom and dad for no more than 1.4 hours per day. That certainly teaches them values, standards, morals, and virtue! And we ask, how our kids became so messed up these days?

The battle of the sexes is one thing, but the battle of the sexes and others in another. No tax dollar needs to go to someone who wants to become the opposite sex. If you want to change, then scrape up the change to do it but not on our dime. If you want to be different, then be different I am not going to point at you and laugh, nor degrade you because you wish to be a member of the status quo of indifference. Where I have a problem, and this goes for ALL minorities, is when you shove your ways down our throat to tell us we must accept you and your ways. If you wish to be gay, then be so, but don't try to kiss me. If you want to dress as a woman, then put on a nice dress and some make up, but don't dress and make yourself up to be a neon sign saying, Look at me. I'm LBGT!

If you are black, then act human! I don't need your face in mine to tell me you are darker skin toned than me. If you would act civilized, then maybe you'd be treated more civilized. Same for Hispanics. You don't see Orientals gathering by the thousands waving the Setting Sun f**g, b***hing about America and Americans, and standing in front of Home Depot harassing patrons for a job. If you are a Muzzie, then by all means, pray to Allah and that child abuser, Mohammad but DO NOT TELL ME to accept sharia, follow you into peace when you make so much h**e & war, and tell my children that your way is more Divine. All streets in America are owned by Americans, not exclusively black, Hispanic, or Muslim and a No-Go zone is r****t, while forbidden by our laws. If you wish to be in America, then become a citizen and respect our laws and get a damn job!

I'm proud of how our President is handling this matter. He simply put his foot down and reversed course with no exclusions. And for those who are agape because President Trump was, again, not politically correct, and stepped on minority toes, tough titty! Get over it he won, you lost, and deal with it like we had to deal with Obama for eight long years of misery and suffering.

The MAJORITY is now speaking. We have been furloughed too long, and now it is your turn to feel the pain of deprivation. It is your turn to be rejected, excluded, and forgotten. Your political correct ways only made us broke, unemployed, weak, criminal, unhealthy, and insane. We went from being down a little in 2006 to becoming almost settled on the bottom in 2016. In ten years, you damaged America to the point it may just take us 20 years to get back to where we started when Obama, Pelosi, and Reid were placed into power, let alone to make America great as it once was. And this movement of the LBGT to be in the military was just one nut in the can of pistachios. Sorry, but you are no longer wanted nor welcomed in the halls of heroes, even if you are capable. Blame the weirdos of your fan club for stigmata. In America, the men and women of our military salute and defend the Stars & Stripes, not the Rainbow f**g of progressive difference.

https://ignoredpoliticalreality.com/d**g-queen-soldier/



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Jul 29, 2017 15:39:06   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
D**G Q***N SOLDIER

By James Hovda on July 29, 2017 American politics, Free of Political Correctness, Ignored Political Reality, James Hovda, political commentary

D**G Q***N SOLDIER

If you really want to tick the Left off, then attack their people of minorities. If you say or do anything negative to b****s, Hispanics, Muslims, or the LBGT fan club, be prepared for an onslaught bombardment of h**e-vitriol that will be directed your way from all sides of the L*****t aisle of anti-America, anti-God, and anti-conservative ideologues who will certainly call you a r****t, bigot, h********c, Xenophobe, and politically brain-dead moron.

President Trump reversed Obama's rule on letting gays and t*********rs into the military. Ask most politicians, and they will agree that Trump had stepped out of line, because politicians play for the politically correct v**e, not for what is right, moral, and certainly not what the majority of the people want.

When polled, 94% of those in active service said that are not to hip with the LBGT fan club gracing their hallowed grounds of macho-ism. Even in old times, most rejected having women in the military because the service wasn't their place to be, unless it was in clerical or medical. Most cannot deal with the problems associated with having to carry women on the battlefield, for reasons that have been made quite clear. I know there are women who can out fight a man, as some women, pound for pound, look like Sumo wrestlers, and can probably carry a 100 lb backpack with no problem. For some, it could balance them out.

But I'm old school, and women don't belong on the front line of battle. If captured, they would not be taken care of in proper fashion, and could pose as a threat to secured information beyond telling their name, rank, and serial number to the enemy. And what if the soldier captured was a LBGT? After they settled down from a long laugh, I h**e to think how they would interrogate a LBGT and still remain serious.

So what is President Trump supposed to do with Obama's LBGTs? Many were let into the military so that the taxpayer could fund their t***sformation operation. Obama h**ed the military, and anything he could do to throw sawdust into the gear oil he would do. And, we all know how attached Obama was with t***s-wh**ever he is married to one.

President Trump did the right thing. The military is definitely no place for the LBGT fan club. It is hard enough to house men and women together, and now there is supposed to be barracks for others? We all know what goes on in ships who don't see port for weeks on end. Can you see a t****y swabbing the poop-deck? Can a LBGT even be trained to pack 100 lbs of gear, shoot to k**l, and take the lead in a nightly raid, jumping out of a helicopter in full gear? or would night-vision expose them more than they want to be exposed?

Don't get me wrong, as I have friends who are full members in the LBGT fan club. And if that is the bridge one wishes to cross, then let them pass. But I have to stand with Trump and not let them pass in being active service-people. God made man and women in His own image. Those in between were made by human image.

There are places for each sex, and one sex doesn't need to be forcing their way upon the other for some notion that both men and women are 100% equal. Take a look at the two, your eye sight should tell you different. It used to be a man's world out there. Each sex had their role to fill, but the politically correct feman**i liberation movement changed all that. I still do a double-take when I see a woman with a jackhammer in her hands, driving a front end loader, or hosing down a fire on a ladder-truck. It was hard enough to accept a woman pulling me over and tell me she needs to frisk me, don't pat the junk, sister!

Sure, many women have stepped up to take the place of a man, and more power to them IF they can 100% handle it in the same regards. Chivalry stops when a woman wants to play man. As I said, I'm old fashion, and when women stepped out of the home to become part of corporate America and have a career, she neglected her family, and thus we now have more divorce, more lesbians, spoiled cry-baby children, and dirtier homes with fat people because they eat a dinner of junk food instead of a well-balanced meal cooked by mom.

The need of two incomes drove mom to the factory, retail store, and offices. Many women wanted to have not just a good income, but a great income, because many women one day decided they no longer needed a man in their life to give them riches in exchange for sex, a clean home, and a hot meal. Day care centers and baby sitters became an urgency, and today's cost to watch a child will zap 50% of your pay in a heartbeat. Many children see mom and dad for no more than 1.4 hours per day. That certainly teaches them values, standards, morals, and virtue! And we ask, how our kids became so messed up these days?

The battle of the sexes is one thing, but the battle of the sexes and others in another. No tax dollar needs to go to someone who wants to become the opposite sex. If you want to change, then scrape up the change to do it but not on our dime. If you want to be different, then be different I am not going to point at you and laugh, nor degrade you because you wish to be a member of the status quo of indifference. Where I have a problem, and this goes for ALL minorities, is when you shove your ways down our throat to tell us we must accept you and your ways. If you wish to be gay, then be so, but don't try to kiss me. If you want to dress as a woman, then put on a nice dress and some make up, but don't dress and make yourself up to be a neon sign saying, Look at me. I'm LBGT!

If you are black, then act human! I don't need your face in mine to tell me you are darker skin toned than me. If you would act civilized, then maybe you'd be treated more civilized. Same for Hispanics. You don't see Orientals gathering by the thousands waving the Setting Sun f**g, b***hing about America and Americans, and standing in front of Home Depot harassing patrons for a job. If you are a Muzzie, then by all means, pray to Allah and that child abuser, Mohammad but DO NOT TELL ME to accept sharia, follow you into peace when you make so much h**e & war, and tell my children that your way is more Divine. All streets in America are owned by Americans, not exclusively black, Hispanic, or Muslim and a No-Go zone is r****t, while forbidden by our laws. If you wish to be in America, then become a citizen and respect our laws and get a damn job!

I'm proud of how our President is handling this matter. He simply put his foot down and reversed course with no exclusions. And for those who are agape because President Trump was, again, not politically correct, and stepped on minority toes, tough titty! Get over it he won, you lost, and deal with it like we had to deal with Obama for eight long years of misery and suffering.

The MAJORITY is now speaking. We have been furloughed too long, and now it is your turn to feel the pain of deprivation. It is your turn to be rejected, excluded, and forgotten. Your political correct ways only made us broke, unemployed, weak, criminal, unhealthy, and insane. We went from being down a little in 2006 to becoming almost settled on the bottom in 2016. In ten years, you damaged America to the point it may just take us 20 years to get back to where we started when Obama, Pelosi, and Reid were placed into power, let alone to make America great as it once was. And this movement of the LBGT to be in the military was just one nut in the can of pistachios. Sorry, but you are no longer wanted nor welcomed in the halls of heroes, even if you are capable. Blame the weirdos of your fan club for stigmata. In America, the men and women of our military salute and defend the Stars & Stripes, not the Rainbow f**g of progressive difference.

https://ignoredpoliticalreality.com/d**g-queen-soldier/
D**G Q***N SOLDIER br br By James Hovda on July... (show quote)


Here is something my brother in law sent me this morning that pretty well explains it. I know the guy who wrote it, and Desert Storm wasn't his only rodeo. He is a badass, and can probably k**l you with his pinkie. Let's see if this works.....

Thought you might like to read the opinion of one of my old friends from high school....yep, he's a desert storm combat vet

"Let me cut through the bulls**t the Liberal drivel media has been spewing! No one has a Right to serve in the armed forces!! Let me repeat that in case you missed that! No one has a Right to serve in the armed forces! The U.S. Armed Forces are NOT an equal opportunity employer! Very far from it! The U.S. Military uses prejudice constantly to deny citizens from serving for being too fat, too old, too young, too tall, too short. They're denied for flat feet, missing fingers or limbs, poor eyesight, bad back, bad teeth, drug addiction, poor hearing, criminal history, low IQ, anxiety, phobias, sleep walking, can't run the PFT in the required time, can't do the required push ups, pull ups, take maintenance meds for any medical condition, need special ramps for wheelchairs, high blood pressure, asthma, diabetes etc... The U.S. Military has one job, "WAR!" Anything else is a distraction or a liability! You don't think it's fair? Too fucking bad! War is unfair! There are no exceptions made for being special, challenged or socially fabulous! The military does not change to accommodate anyone! You change to fit the military standards or hit the fucking bricks! The military needs to win wars not accommodate people with special needs! Thank you for applying. Good luck in your future endeavors! Next applicant!

And the military certainly shouldn't be paying for sex reassignment surgery!!"

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Jul 29, 2017 15:50:57   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
archie bunker wrote:
Here is something my brother in law sent me this morning that pretty well explains it. I know the guy who wrote it, and Desert Storm wasn't his only rodeo. He is a badass, and can probably k**l you with his pinkie. Let's see if this works.....

Thought you might like to read the opinion of one of my old friends from high school....yep, he's a desert storm combat vet

"Let me cut through the bulls**t the Liberal drivel media has been spewing! No one has a Right to serve in the armed forces!! Let me repeat that in case you missed that! No one has a Right to serve in the armed forces! The U.S. Armed Forces are NOT an equal opportunity employer! Very far from it! The U.S. Military uses prejudice constantly to deny citizens from serving for being too fat, too old, too young, too tall, too short. They're denied for flat feet, missing fingers or limbs, poor eyesight, bad back, bad teeth, drug addiction, poor hearing, criminal history, low IQ, anxiety, phobias, sleep walking, can't run the PFT in the required time, can't do the required push ups, pull ups, take maintenance meds for any medical condition, need special ramps for wheelchairs, high blood pressure, asthma, diabetes etc... The U.S. Military has one job, "WAR!" Anything else is a distraction or a liability! You don't think it's fair? Too fucking bad! War is unfair! There are no exceptions made for being special, challenged or socially fabulous! The military does not change to accommodate anyone! You change to fit the military standards or hit the fucking bricks! The military needs to win wars not accommodate people with special needs! Thank you for applying. Good luck in your future endeavors! Next applicant!

And the military certainly shouldn't be paying for sex reassignment surgery!!"
Here is something my brother in law sent me this m... (show quote)


Git some!

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Jul 29, 2017 16:06:20   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
archie bunker wrote:
Here is something my brother in law sent me this morning that pretty well explains it. I know the guy who wrote it, and Desert Storm wasn't his only rodeo. He is a badass, and can probably k**l you with his pinkie. Let's see if this works.....

Thought you might like to read the opinion of one of my old friends from high school....yep, he's a desert storm combat vet

"Let me cut through the bulls**t the Liberal drivel media has been spewing! No one has a Right to serve in the armed forces!! Let me repeat that in case you missed that! No one has a Right to serve in the armed forces! The U.S. Armed Forces are NOT an equal opportunity employer! Very far from it! The U.S. Military uses prejudice constantly to deny citizens from serving for being too fat, too old, too young, too tall, too short. They're denied for flat feet, missing fingers or limbs, poor eyesight, bad back, bad teeth, drug addiction, poor hearing, criminal history, low IQ, anxiety, phobias, sleep walking, can't run the PFT in the required time, can't do the required push ups, pull ups, take maintenance meds for any medical condition, need special ramps for wheelchairs, high blood pressure, asthma, diabetes etc... The U.S. Military has one job, "WAR!" Anything else is a distraction or a liability! You don't think it's fair? Too fucking bad! War is unfair! There are no exceptions made for being special, challenged or socially fabulous! The military does not change to accommodate anyone! You change to fit the military standards or hit the fucking bricks! The military needs to win wars not accommodate people with special needs! Thank you for applying. Good luck in your future endeavors! Next applicant!

And the military certainly shouldn't be paying for sex reassignment surgery!!"
Here is something my brother in law sent me this m... (show quote)

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Jul 29, 2017 17:00:09   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
You are all, of course, completely welcome to your opinions. You needn't agree with anyone at all when it comes to what you feel is right or wrong.

But you do a disservice when you misquote facts or offer statistics with no supporting evidence.

1. Trump's EO bans T*********r individuals, not LGB people, as mis-stated by the article in this post.

2. I would welcome the source of the claim about the % of enlisted personnel that are opposed to LGB people serving along side them. I could not find any on the web. I did however find surveys that indicate an overwhelming majority of the people of the US have no issue with this. While this article from The Rand Corporation is somewhat dated, I believe the consensus is that opinions have continued to be positive. Several surveys quoted in this article support my claim.

http://www.rand.org/pubs/periodicals/rand-review/issues/2011/spring/gays.html

3. The title of the article seems to conflate cross-dressing and t***svestitism with t***ssexualism. They are entirely different things, and neither are the same thing as being gay.

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Jul 29, 2017 17:01:25   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Damn, I like the way that was said.
archie bunker wrote:
Here is something my brother in law sent me this morning that pretty well explains it. I know the guy who wrote it, and Desert Storm wasn't his only rodeo. He is a badass, and can probably k**l you with his pinkie. Let's see if this works.....

Thought you might like to read the opinion of one of my old friends from high school....yep, he's a desert storm combat vet

"Let me cut through the bulls**t the Liberal drivel media has been spewing! No one has a Right to serve in the armed forces!! Let me repeat that in case you missed that! No one has a Right to serve in the armed forces! The U.S. Armed Forces are NOT an equal opportunity employer! Very far from it! The U.S. Military uses prejudice constantly to deny citizens from serving for being too fat, too old, too young, too tall, too short. They're denied for flat feet, missing fingers or limbs, poor eyesight, bad back, bad teeth, drug addiction, poor hearing, criminal history, low IQ, anxiety, phobias, sleep walking, can't run the PFT in the required time, can't do the required push ups, pull ups, take maintenance meds for any medical condition, need special ramps for wheelchairs, high blood pressure, asthma, diabetes etc... The U.S. Military has one job, "WAR!" Anything else is a distraction or a liability! You don't think it's fair? Too fucking bad! War is unfair! There are no exceptions made for being special, challenged or socially fabulous! The military does not change to accommodate anyone! You change to fit the military standards or hit the fucking bricks! The military needs to win wars not accommodate people with special needs! Thank you for applying. Good luck in your future endeavors! Next applicant!

And the military certainly shouldn't be paying for sex reassignment surgery!!"
Here is something my brother in law sent me this m... (show quote)

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Jul 29, 2017 17:17:29   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
archie bunker wrote:
Here is something my brother in law sent me this morning that pretty well explains it. I know the guy who wrote it, and Desert Storm wasn't his only rodeo. He is a badass, and can probably k**l you with his pinkie. Let's see if this works.....

Thought you might like to read the opinion of one of my old friends from high school....yep, he's a desert storm combat vet

"Let me cut through the bulls**t the Liberal drivel media has been spewing! No one has a Right to serve in the armed forces!! Let me repeat that in case you missed that! No one has a Right to serve in the armed forces! The U.S. Armed Forces are NOT an equal opportunity employer! Very far from it! The U.S. Military uses prejudice constantly to deny citizens from serving for being too fat, too old, too young, too tall, too short. They're denied for flat feet, missing fingers or limbs, poor eyesight, bad back, bad teeth, drug addiction, poor hearing, criminal history, low IQ, anxiety, phobias, sleep walking, can't run the PFT in the required time, can't do the required push ups, pull ups, take maintenance meds for any medical condition, need special ramps for wheelchairs, high blood pressure, asthma, diabetes etc... The U.S. Military has one job, "WAR!" Anything else is a distraction or a liability! You don't think it's fair? Too fucking bad! War is unfair! There are no exceptions made for being special, challenged or socially fabulous! The military does not change to accommodate anyone! You change to fit the military standards or hit the fucking bricks! The military needs to win wars not accommodate people with special needs! Thank you for applying. Good luck in your future endeavors! Next applicant!

And the military certainly shouldn't be paying for sex reassignment surgery!!"
Here is something my brother in law sent me this m... (show quote)


Here's a list to expound on your post:

This bears the widest desimination: for you millennials that means it should go v***l.

I have more to say about our great president's decision to ban t*********red folks from the military. He is absolutely right in this decision. The military is about lethality, cohesion, destruction of the enemy. It is always about the force. It is never about the individual. All this nonsense about the feelings of individuals and their mental illness, g****r dysphoria, is hooey. The first lesson learned in basic is teamwork, the first thing given up is individualism.

By necessity the military is a very discriminating organization. If I am younger than 17 or older than 42 I cannot get in. If I am taller than 80" I cannot get in. Don't these folks feelings of desire and patriotism count?

I have included below a raft of qualifying and disqualifying characteristics/conducts/conditions for military service.

Perhaps all of these disqualifiers should be eliminated by the social experimenters. Lets see how many wars we win then.

Enlistment standards for joining the military include: o Citizenship. You must be a US citizen or be a permanent immigrant with a green card. o Age. No one younger than 17 and older than 42 may enlist. Each section of the military also has its own specific guidelines. o Credit and finances. You must not have serious amounts of debt or have a history of credit issues. o Single parents and applicants with dependents are usually disqualified. If you have dependents at all, you will need to show adequate support for them. If you are married to a military member and have children, you will be unable to join. o Education. Applicants generally must have a high school diploma. In some cases a GED is accepted, and in very rare cases people without schooling are accepted. o Drug and alcohol dependency, use or involvement can disqualify you. o Medical disqualifications. Any serious mental or physical illness or trait can disqualify you from joining. You must be physically fit. o Criminal history. Any offense that results in conviction is usually disqualifying. o Sexual conduct. D*****t sexual behavior will disqualify you from joining. o Height standards. You must be between 60-80 inches tall for men and 58-72 inches tall for women.

The military can also reject you for any other reason not listed above. Remember: serving is a privilege; not a right.

You will NEVER be allowed to enlist in the Regular Army, US Army Reserves, or Army National Guard if you admit to or are determined to have any of the nonwaivable disqualifying conditions below. Depending on abundance of recruits, standards may be more strict than listed: • Drug dependence • An open law violation or fine • Intoxicated or under influence of alcohol or drugs at time of application, or at any stage of processing for enlistment • Having history of psychotic disorders or state of insanity at time of application for enlistment • Questionable moral character • Alcoholism • Tattoos located on the head, face, neck, wrists, hands, or fingers • Tattoos which are extreme, sexist, indecent, or r****t • Having more than four tattoos located below the knee or between the elbow and wrist • Sexual perversion • History of antisocial behavior • History of frequent or chronic venereal disease • Person unable to present written evidence (official documents) of prior service claimed, until such service has been verified. • Person whose enlistment is not clearly consistent with interests of national security under AR 601–280. • Person retained on AD under AR 601–280 with annotation “not eligible for security clearance or assignment to sensitive duties, AR 601–280.” • Criminal or juvenile court charges filed or pending against them by civil authorities. Note: Pending charges include unpaid traffic violations. Authorized reception battalion commanders and IET commanders may consider that, in certain meritorious cases, unpaid minor traffic tickets that are subsequently paid after entry did not constitute fraudulent entry. In those limited circumstances, separation processing under AR 635–200, chapter 7, is not required. All other cases meeting the provisions of fraudulent entry criteria must be processed in accordance with AR 635–200. • Person under civil restraint, such as confinement, parole, or probation. • Subject of initial civil court conviction or adverse disposition for more than one serious criminal misconduct offense. • Person with a civil conviction of a serious criminal misconduct with any one of the following: • Three or more offenses (convictions or other adverse dispositions) other than traffic. • If You have juvenile serious criminal misconduct offenses but have had no offenses within 5 years of application for enlistment, you may be considered for a waiver in meritorious cases without regard to any history of chronic cannabis (marijuana) use or psychological cannabis dependence. • You have an initial court conviction or other adverse disposition for sale, distribution, or trafficking (including “intent to”) of cannabis (marijuana), or any other controlled substance. • You have a history of chronic cannabis (marijuana) use or psychological cannabis dependence (as defined in AR 40–501). • You have two or more convictions/other adverse disposition (OAD) within the 3 years preceding application for enlistment for driving while intoxicated, drugged, or impaired. • You have a confirmed positive result for alcohol or drugs (test administered during enlistment processing) There are procedures for an optional retest and waiver if later test results are negative. • You have convictions or other adverse dispositions for 5 or more misdemeanors that occurred preceding application for enlistment. • You have a conviction/OAD of two or more separate charges of possession of any illegal drugs/drug paraphernalia within 3 years preceding application for enlistment. • You have been previously barred from reenlistment by HQDA and coded RE–4. • You have prior service with two or more convictions/OAD within the 3 years preceding application for enlistment for driving while intoxicated, drugged, or impaired. • You have prior service and have incured a serious criminal misconduct conviction during or after military service. • You have prior service and have tested positive at enlistment processing for any drug use. • Any applicant (officer and enlisted) who has been convicted of a sexually violent offense is not eligible for enlistment or appointment. Further, personnel separated as a result of the convicted sex offender policy are not eligible to reenter. There is no grandfather clause to this policy. The following offenses are covered under this policy: 1. Rape 2. Carnal Knowledge 3. Forcible sodomy 4. Sodomy of a minor 5. Conduct unbecoming an officer (involving any sexually violent offense, a criminal offense of a sexual nature against a minor or kidnapping a minor) 6. Prostitution involving a minor 7. Indecent assault 8. Assault with the intent to commit rape or sodomy 9. Indecent act with a minor 10. Indecent language to a minor 11. Kidnapping of a minor (not by a parent) 12. Pornography involving a minor 13. Conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline or assimilative crime conviction (involving any sexually violent offense or a criminal offense of a sexual nature against a minor or kidnapping of a minor) 14. Attempt to commit, conspiracy to commit, or solicitation to commit any of the offenses in 1 through 13 above.

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Jul 29, 2017 17:26:08   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
PaulPisces wrote:
You are all, of course, completely welcome to your opinions. You needn't agree with anyone at all when it comes to what you feel is right or wrong.

But you do a disservice when you misquote facts or offer statistics with no supporting evidence.

1. Trump's EO bans T*********r individuals, not LGB people, as mis-stated by the article in this post.

2. I would welcome the source of the claim about the % of enlisted personnel that are opposed to LGB people serving along side them. I could not find any on the web. I did however find surveys that indicate an overwhelming majority of the people of the US have no issue with this. While this article from The Rand Corporation is somewhat dated, I believe the consensus is that opinions have continued to be positive. Several surveys quoted in this article support my claim.

http://www.rand.org/pubs/periodicals/rand-review/issues/2011/spring/gays.html

3. The title of the article seems to conflate cross-dressing and t***svestitism with t***ssexualism. They are entirely different things, and neither are the same thing as being gay.
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It would be interesting to know what percentage of our military identify as Liberal or are registered Democrat and or v**ed for Hillary Clinton. Probably all of the LBTQRSFFG group.

As far as the conflation goes, how many normal males do you know who dress up in dresses, heels, panty hose, wigs and lipstick? Similarly those without mental aberrations recognize their g****r as being the same as their sex and there are only two of either. All of the alphabet weirdos are q***r, which is a big conflation, but true.

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Jul 29, 2017 17:36:49   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
Except that Trump proudly stood up for the L**T population repeatedly during his campaign, and the L**T community supported him just as proudly. Trump lied when he said that he had consulted with military leaders before he sent out the now-infamous tweet. General Mattis was particularly unhappy about it.

An estimated 150,000 t*********r individuals have proudly served in the military. Somewhere between 2,000 and 6,000 serve America in our military today. Estimated annual medical expenses? Roughly $4 million, compared to over $41 million a year for Viagra. And no, Viagra isn't being prescribed as a blood thinner; warfarin is the drug generally prescribed.

This is not an issue that can, or will, be resolved by a tweet. The tweet was just a convenient smokescreen to avert public attention on the real issues, and President Trump should be ashamed of himself. He isn't, of course, because he is absolutely convinced that he can do no wrong.

He's not draining the swamp, he's flooding the sewer.

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Jul 29, 2017 17:56:42   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
The military is not an experiment. Hell with the LBGT Community and their using tax payer money to get something fixed that can't be fixed.
Specifically their psychological problem. Mattis isn't pro LBGT. He didn't want the distraction to hold up funding. Trump stood up for the military.
WTF is wrong with you people?
Iamdjchrys wrote:
Except that Trump proudly stood up for the L**T population repeatedly during his campaign, and the L**T community supported him just as proudly. Trump lied when he said that he had consulted with military leaders before he sent out the now-infamous tweet. General Mattis was particularly unhappy about it.

An estimated 150,000 t*********r individuals have proudly served in the military. Somewhere between 2,000 and 6,000 serve America in our military today. Estimated annual medical expenses? Roughly $4 million, compared to over $41 million a year for Viagra. And no, Viagra isn't being prescribed as a blood thinner; warfarin is the drug generally prescribed.

This is not an issue that can, or will, be resolved by a tweet. The tweet was just a convenient smokescreen to avert public attention on the real issues, and President Trump should be ashamed of himself. He isn't, of course, because he is absolutely convinced that he can do no wrong.

He's not draining the swamp, he's flooding the sewer.
Except that Trump proudly stood up for the L**T po... (show quote)

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Jul 29, 2017 18:27:29   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Iamdjchrys wrote:
Except that Trump proudly stood up for the L**T population repeatedly during his campaign, and the L**T community supported him just as proudly. Trump lied when he said that he had consulted with military leaders before he sent out the now-infamous tweet. General Mattis was particularly unhappy about it.

An estimated 150,000 t*********r individuals have proudly served in the military. Somewhere between 2,000 and 6,000 serve America in our military today. Estimated annual medical expenses? Roughly $4 million, compared to over $41 million a year for Viagra. And no, Viagra isn't being prescribed as a blood thinner; warfarin is the drug generally prescribed.

This is not an issue that can, or will, be resolved by a tweet. The tweet was just a convenient smokescreen to avert public attention on the real issues, and President Trump should be ashamed of himself. He isn't, of course, because he is absolutely convinced that he can do no wrong.

He's not draining the swamp, he's flooding the sewer.
Except that Trump proudly stood up for the L**T po... (show quote)


No supporting evidence for your figures and I agree, if Trump can rid the military of sexual d*****ts he will temporarily flood the sewer but he will make our military stronger and return them to good order and discipline.

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Jul 29, 2017 18:36:42   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
padremike wrote:
Here's a list to expound on your post:

This bears the widest desimination: for you millennials that means it should go v***l.

I have more to say about our great president's decision to ban t*********red folks from the military. He is absolutely right in this decision. The military is about lethality, cohesion, destruction of the enemy. It is always about the force. It is never about the individual. All this nonsense about the feelings of individuals and their mental illness, g****r dysphoria, is hooey. The first lesson learned in basic is teamwork, the first thing given up is individualism.

By necessity the military is a very discriminating organization. If I am younger than 17 or older than 42 I cannot get in. If I am taller than 80" I cannot get in. Don't these folks feelings of desire and patriotism count?

I have included below a raft of qualifying and disqualifying characteristics/conducts/conditions for military service.

Perhaps all of these disqualifiers should be eliminated by the social experimenters. Lets see how many wars we win then.

Enlistment standards for joining the military include: o Citizenship. You must be a US citizen or be a permanent immigrant with a green card. o Age. No one younger than 17 and older than 42 may enlist. Each section of the military also has its own specific guidelines. o Credit and finances. You must not have serious amounts of debt or have a history of credit issues. o Single parents and applicants with dependents are usually disqualified. If you have dependents at all, you will need to show adequate support for them. If you are married to a military member and have children, you will be unable to join. o Education. Applicants generally must have a high school diploma. In some cases a GED is accepted, and in very rare cases people without schooling are accepted. o Drug and alcohol dependency, use or involvement can disqualify you. o Medical disqualifications. Any serious mental or physical illness or trait can disqualify you from joining. You must be physically fit. o Criminal history. Any offense that results in conviction is usually disqualifying. o Sexual conduct. D*****t sexual behavior will disqualify you from joining. o Height standards. You must be between 60-80 inches tall for men and 58-72 inches tall for women.

The military can also reject you for any other reason not listed above. Remember: serving is a privilege; not a right.

You will NEVER be allowed to enlist in the Regular Army, US Army Reserves, or Army National Guard if you admit to or are determined to have any of the nonwaivable disqualifying conditions below. Depending on abundance of recruits, standards may be more strict than listed: • Drug dependence • An open law violation or fine • Intoxicated or under influence of alcohol or drugs at time of application, or at any stage of processing for enlistment • Having history of psychotic disorders or state of insanity at time of application for enlistment • Questionable moral character • Alcoholism • Tattoos located on the head, face, neck, wrists, hands, or fingers • Tattoos which are extreme, sexist, indecent, or r****t • Having more than four tattoos located below the knee or between the elbow and wrist • Sexual perversion • History of antisocial behavior • History of frequent or chronic venereal disease • Person unable to present written evidence (official documents) of prior service claimed, until such service has been verified. • Person whose enlistment is not clearly consistent with interests of national security under AR 601–280. • Person retained on AD under AR 601–280 with annotation “not eligible for security clearance or assignment to sensitive duties, AR 601–280.” • Criminal or juvenile court charges filed or pending against them by civil authorities. Note: Pending charges include unpaid traffic violations. Authorized reception battalion commanders and IET commanders may consider that, in certain meritorious cases, unpaid minor traffic tickets that are subsequently paid after entry did not constitute fraudulent entry. In those limited circumstances, separation processing under AR 635–200, chapter 7, is not required. All other cases meeting the provisions of fraudulent entry criteria must be processed in accordance with AR 635–200. • Person under civil restraint, such as confinement, parole, or probation. • Subject of initial civil court conviction or adverse disposition for more than one serious criminal misconduct offense. • Person with a civil conviction of a serious criminal misconduct with any one of the following: • Three or more offenses (convictions or other adverse dispositions) other than traffic. • If You have juvenile serious criminal misconduct offenses but have had no offenses within 5 years of application for enlistment, you may be considered for a waiver in meritorious cases without regard to any history of chronic cannabis (marijuana) use or psychological cannabis dependence. • You have an initial court conviction or other adverse disposition for sale, distribution, or trafficking (including “intent to”) of cannabis (marijuana), or any other controlled substance. • You have a history of chronic cannabis (marijuana) use or psychological cannabis dependence (as defined in AR 40–501). • You have two or more convictions/other adverse disposition (OAD) within the 3 years preceding application for enlistment for driving while intoxicated, drugged, or impaired. • You have a confirmed positive result for alcohol or drugs (test administered during enlistment processing) There are procedures for an optional retest and waiver if later test results are negative. • You have convictions or other adverse dispositions for 5 or more misdemeanors that occurred preceding application for enlistment. • You have a conviction/OAD of two or more separate charges of possession of any illegal drugs/drug paraphernalia within 3 years preceding application for enlistment. • You have been previously barred from reenlistment by HQDA and coded RE–4. • You have prior service with two or more convictions/OAD within the 3 years preceding application for enlistment for driving while intoxicated, drugged, or impaired. • You have prior service and have incured a serious criminal misconduct conviction during or after military service. • You have prior service and have tested positive at enlistment processing for any drug use. • Any applicant (officer and enlisted) who has been convicted of a sexually violent offense is not eligible for enlistment or appointment. Further, personnel separated as a result of the convicted sex offender policy are not eligible to reenter. There is no grandfather clause to this policy. The following offenses are covered under this policy: 1. Rape 2. Carnal Knowledge 3. Forcible sodomy 4. Sodomy of a minor 5. Conduct unbecoming an officer (involving any sexually violent offense, a criminal offense of a sexual nature against a minor or kidnapping a minor) 6. Prostitution involving a minor 7. Indecent assault 8. Assault with the intent to commit rape or sodomy 9. Indecent act with a minor 10. Indecent language to a minor 11. Kidnapping of a minor (not by a parent) 12. Pornography involving a minor 13. Conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline or assimilative crime conviction (involving any sexually violent offense or a criminal offense of a sexual nature against a minor or kidnapping of a minor) 14. Attempt to commit, conspiracy to commit, or solicitation to commit any of the offenses in 1 through 13 above.
Here's a list to expound on your post: br br This... (show quote)

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Jul 29, 2017 19:42:53   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Iamdjchrys wrote:
Except that Trump proudly stood up for the L**T population repeatedly during his campaign, and the L**T community supported him just as proudly. Trump lied when he said that he had consulted with military leaders before he sent out the now-infamous tweet. General Mattis was particularly unhappy about it.

An estimated 150,000 t*********r individuals have proudly served in the military. Somewhere between 2,000 and 6,000 serve America in our military today. Estimated annual medical expenses? Roughly $4 million, compared to over $41 million a year for Viagra. And no, Viagra isn't being prescribed as a blood thinner; warfarin is the drug generally prescribed.

This is not an issue that can, or will, be resolved by a tweet. The tweet was just a convenient smokescreen to avert public attention on the real issues, and President Trump should be ashamed of himself. He isn't, of course, because he is absolutely convinced that he can do no wrong.

He's not draining the swamp, he's flooding the sewer.
Except that Trump proudly stood up for the L**T po... (show quote)


Sorry, but you're delusional. Our military is there to k**l people, and break stuff. Not make everyone happy. THAT is REALITY! Maybe you should check it out sometime.

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Jul 29, 2017 19:52:34   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
archie bunker wrote:
Sorry, but you're delusional. Our military is there to k**l people, and break stuff. Not make everyone happy. THAT is REALITY! Maybe you should check it out sometime.


I am fully aware of the purposes of the military, much of which is to keep the peace through strength

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Jul 29, 2017 19:54:21   #
Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas
 
PaulPisces wrote:
You are all, of course, completely welcome to your opinions. You needn't agree with anyone at all when it comes to what you feel is right or wrong.

But you do a disservice when you misquote facts or offer statistics with no supporting evidence.

1. Trump's EO bans T*********r individuals, not LGB people, as mis-stated by the article in this post.

2. I would welcome the source of the claim about the % of enlisted personnel that are opposed to LGB people serving along side them. I could not find any on the web. I did however find surveys that indicate an overwhelming majority of the people of the US have no issue with this. While this article from The Rand Corporation is somewhat dated, I believe the consensus is that opinions have continued to be positive. Several surveys quoted in this article support my claim.

http://www.rand.org/pubs/periodicals/rand-review/issues/2011/spring/gays.html

3. The title of the article seems to conflate cross-dressing and t***svestitism with t***ssexualism. They are entirely different things, and neither are the same thing as being gay.
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It wasn't even an EO, it was a tweet!

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