Glaucon

Ignorance is fixable, stupid is not.

Only 45% of Trump v**ers believe Don Jr. met with the Russians, after Junior admitted it
Public Policy Polling has a new poll out that’s depressing as hell, and a sign of just how fact-deprived Trump v**ers truly are.
Among other findings, only 45% of Trump v**ers think Donald Trump Jr. met with Russians last year to discuss their offer to help his father win the e******n.
And 32% say it didn’t happen at all.
This is after Donald Trump Jr. already admitted publicly that he met with the Russians, and Donald Trump Sr. tweeted the fact that his son met with the Russians. After all that, only 45% believe it.
And people wonder how democracies die.
Another troubling finding: Even though Donald Trump Jr. admitted this too, only 26% of Trump v**ers think the Russians wanted Trump to win. And 44% think Putin wanted Hillary to win. (Putin H**ED Hillary, and that’s a leading reason he got involved in the e******n to begin with.) Again, Donald Trump Jr. already tweeted out the emails he received from an intermediary for the Russians, acknowledging that they wanted Trump to win and wanted to help. Yet that admission by a Trump himself isn’t enough for Trump v**ers.
Also bizarre, only 13% of Trump v**ers think Trump’s team worked with Russians to help his campaign. Again, junior already admitted meeting with the Russians for this very purpose.
PPP calls all of this a certain amount of willful ignorance. I fear it’s worse than that. PPP even polled how Trump v**ers would feel if he shot someone. Trump famously bragged during the campaign that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and his supporters wouldn’t care. He was right. Only 29% disapprove, while 45% approve — without even knowing who he shot or why.
I watch Trump’s incremental train wreck and it explains a lot about how bad men rose to power in the past. It’s not just that they slowly, stealthily consolidate power when no one is looking. It can also be the fault of a public who knowingly accept, and shrug off, what was previously unthinkable. (Fox News isn’t helping things, either.)

Trump at a campaign rally mocking a NYT reporter with a disability.
Someone said to me the other day, “the problem isn’t Trump, the problem is America.” They meant that the Trump phenomenon goes much deeper than a shallow narcissist who never outgrew puberty and simply got lucky at the b****t box. Trump is in power because v**ers knew what he was, and v**ed for him anyway. Trump spewed sexism, r****m, mocked people with disabilities and openly praised, and even embraced and defended, some of the world’s worst dictators, while repeatedly criticizing America. And people v**ed for him anyway.
Yes, Trump lost the popular v**e; so in the end, the American people didn’t choose him to be their president. But he still got far too many v**es after everything we learned about him during the campaign. Trump received 63 million v**es to Hillary Clinton’s 65.8 million. Hillary kicked Trump’s ass. But someone as vile and unqualified as Trump should have lost by double-digit margins. And he didn’t.
Maybe Trump isn’t the only thing that’s broken. Maybe America is too. The question is whether we still have time to fix her.

jimahrens Loc: California

In your world stupidity reigns supreme!

Ve'hoe

better make time,, glue gun,,,, cause he is here,,,,,,,,,

Glaucon

Apparently stupid reigns supreme in both our worlds. You may not be aware that we share our world, even with those who disagree with us. Trump says we will get tired of winning when he works his magic and you folks get in line to kiss his ++++ ring. I am not tired of winning , are you?

Ve'hoe

I am not tired of winning yet,,,, healthcare, illegal v**ers, i*****l i*******ts, rounding up loser liberals for h*****g,,, cant wait,,,,,,,


Btw,,, why do you h**e so much??? Just because your side miserably lost, had no plans, and has no "bench",,,, we are busy destroying all the stupid plans your side unilaterally created,,,,,,,,,,, h**er,,, just stew in your own filth,,, while we happily, and cheerfully dismantle your illegal EOs and bills

Glaucon

You live in an alternate reality. I am being kind to call your fantasy land a any kind of a reality, but I guess I am just naturally kind.

Most v**ers favored and v**ed for Hillary. Under our system, T***p w*n the presidency legally, ethically and morally but lost the popular v**e. Trump was going to jail Hillary the day he became president and was going to eliminate Obamacare on his first day. He was moping to keep members of a religion from entering our country. He was going to build a wall. He was going to make Mexico pay for his imaginary wall. That doesn't sound like winning to me. What do the voices in your head say about that? Friendly advice: Cut way back on the sauce -firewater?

Glaucon

I am totally repelled by the direction of the Republican party and am A BIT LESS repelled by the Democratic party. Our country is in big trouble and Trump is not the answer and will soon be history as more and more become wise to his con.

Ve'hoe

that isn't true,, glue-gun you are never kind,,,, my fantasy is a large camp where your type are herded into chambers,, and told "Breathe deeply, its just a de-lousing"
Polls show that even Putin would beat hitlery KKKLinton.... and hell that moose of daughter Chazlee,,, should be beaten,,, with an ugly mallet....


that's whats so great about Ivanka,,, the epitome of style grace, and femininity,, chazlee kkklinton,, hell she looks like a posterchild for a prophylactic...... either that or spokes-person for post-birth a******ns,,, about 11000 days past birth,, preferably before that mutant replicates into something else...

Now,,, if chazlee kkklinton was schlepping around the white house lawn spraying on plants,, or wh**ever the hell she does,,,, I think the secret service would euthanize her,,, or just roll up a nuclear magazine and beat her on the nose... like most mutts......... then and only then would Trump be "moping"

I'm sorry,, what else were you boring me with???

Ve'hoe

no,, you are "repellant" and trump is the answer, you just don't know the question,,,,,,, the biggest History Trump will make is when he is re-elected in 2018.. in which case, chazlee kkklinton will probably be executed for ugly..... genetics,,, and that's because bill might have mixed his genes with anything,,,

Glaucon

I guess I have been trying to see if commons sense and reality might break through Your boredom. Apparently no success .

Ve'hoe

well dont look for it in your mirror,,,, I should think you personally were accustomed to lack of success..

Glaucon

I had guessed you are accustomed to lack of success, but that guess was no challenge. Ease up on the sauce.

Ve'hoe

senile you old reprobate? you always try that excuse for me making you look stupid,,,, you know better,,, and you know you are not intelligent, that has been soundly proven,,, thats why I treat you like the joke you are, nothing that goes on between your empty ears is challenging,,,

Glaucon

You are cute as a bug when you get all puffed up with rage. Take a nice warm bath and see if you can hold your head under water for half an hour. You might also try a high colonic , but most of all, go easy on the firewater.

Glaucon

Still digging up the Clintons and being one of Trump's butt boys? Dishonest and d********g. Ease up on the juice.