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Economics 101

Electric Eh???



This is a good read!


As a "joke", my Chevy dealer gave me a Volt as a loaner while my full-size
pick-up was getting some attention. He thought it was funny to give his
energy company CEO this thing here on Vancouver Island! I live 30 kms
outside of Victoria BC near Sidney.


The battery was dead - later he admitted they almost never charged it.
While the car was "ok", on gasoline, it was pretty anemic. So for the
extra money, even taking into account Chev rebates and Provincial
incentives, you get an under-powered, heavy car that felt "too small"
for its actual size (battery has to go somewhere).


Now the kicker: at a neighborhood bbq, I was talking to a Neighbor, a
BC Hydro executive. I asked him how that renewable thing was doing.
He laughed, then got serious. If you really intend to adopt electric
vehicles, he pointed out, you had to face certain realities. For example,
a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service. The
average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small street
(approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable
to carry more than 3 houses with a single Tesla, each. For even half the
homes to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded.


This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles ... Our residential
infrastructure cannot bear the load. So as our genius elected officials
ram this nonsense down our collective throats, not only are we being
forced to buy the damn things and replace our reliable, cheap generating
systems with expensive, new windmills and solar cells, but we will also
have to renovate our entire delivery system! This latter "investment" will
not be revealed until we're so far down this dead end road that it will be
presented with an oops and a shrug.


If you want to argue with a green person over cars that are Eco-Friendly,
just read the below:


Note: However, if you ARE the green person, read it anyway. Enlightening.


Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors...and he
writes...For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25
miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric
calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery.
So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is
approximately 270 miles.


It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10
hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours.
In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would
be 20 mph.


According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity.
It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the
electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay
for electricity. I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the
seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the
battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate
he Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline

engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10
per mile.


The gasoline powered car costs about $15,000 while the Volt costs
$46,000.........So the American Government wants proud and loyal
Americans not to do the math, but simply pay 3 times as much for a car,
that costs more than 7 times as much to run, and takes 3 times longer to
drive across the country.....


Still wonder why T***p w*n? ;-)

E

Thanks for posting. I never saw those numbers before or put it all together myself. A real revelation.

boatbob2

GEE.AND,my 2 toyota priuses,only get 54 MPG,(2015)and 47.5 MPG, (2007)respectfully,and MAKE THEIR OWN ELECTRICITY.... GEE,who woulda thunk ????

bahmer

Thank you for the revelation.

private

Take away all of the money we were forced to spend on EV's by our gov't and there are NO electric vehicles. Prius yes, Toyota was worlds ahead of the alternative market with the best option so far.

boatbob2

QUICK,Someone,Anyone,tell me,why the heck,would you buy a car, that gets only 270 miles to a full charge,And it ONLY takes 10 hours to charge, that you pay ONLY .74 cents a MILE to drive???? and the (our) government gives you a tax credit of ( I heard) of $10,000) on a $46.000 car. The numbers dont add up, and dont get me started on the WAAAAAY overpriced Tesla....with very little milage range...