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Dem state officials refusing to cooperate with Trump v***r f***d probe

By Judson Berger
Published June 30, 2017
Democratic state officials already are refusing to cooperate with the v***r f***d investigation ordered by President Trump, saying they will not hand over the extensive “v**er roll data” the commission is seeking. 
The response comes after Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state serving as vice chair of the P**********l Advisory Commission on E******n Integrity, wrote to all 50 states this week asking for their input as well as v***r r**********n data.
“I have no intention of honoring this request. Virginia conducts fair, honest, and democratic e******ns, and there is no evidence of significant v***r f***d in Virginia,” Virginia Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe countered in a statement Thursday, claiming the commission is based on the “specious and false notion that there was widespread v***r f***d last November.”
In this Oct. 19, 2013, file photo, Hillary Clinton applauds Terry McAuliffe during a campaign rally in the Virginia gubernatorial race.  (AP)
Trump created the panel via executive order in May to review alleged v***r f***d, after making the explosive claim that 3 million to 5 million people illegally v**ed in the 2016 p**********l e******n. 
TRUMP LAUNCHES V***R F***D PROBE
In his letter, Kobach had asked for recommendations on how to improve e******n integrity and for guidance on which laws “hinder” that goal. But what rankled Democratic officials was his request for v**er information including names, dates of birth, political party, the last four digits of Social Security numbers, v**er history (“e******ns v**ed in”), felony convictions, military status and more.
Kobach specified in the letter he would only request “publicly-available v**er roll data” under each state’s laws.
Connecticut Secretary of the State Denise Merrill said in a statement that her office would provide such information “in the spirit of t***sparency.” But, suggesting some of the requested data would not be sharable under state law, she said she would ensure “the privacy of v**ers is honored by withholding protected data.” Merrill also voiced concern that state officials “have not been told precisely what the Commission is looking for.”
Virginia and California were more brazen in their response. 
ACLU SEEKS EVIDENCE FOR TRUMP V***R F***D CLAIMS
McAuliffe, a former Democratic National Committee chairman and longtime Clinton family ally, said, “At best this commission was set up as a pretext to validate Donald Trump’s alternative e******n facts, and at worst is a tool to commit large-scale v**er suppression.”
The governor declared he would not “divert resources” to this.
California Secretary of State Alex Padilla struck a similar chord, saying in a statement he would “not provide sensitive v**er information to a commission that has already inaccurately passed judgment that millions of Californians v**ed illegally.”
He added, “California's participation would only serve to legitimize the false and already debunked claims of massive v***r f***d made by the President, the Vice President, and Mr. Kobach.” 
Kobach told The Kansas City Star he's just looking for the "best data possible." 
He rejected as "nonsense" any claims that the data could be used to suppress the v**e, saying, “The purpose of the commission is to quantify different forms of v***r f***d and registration fraud and offer solutions. And so you have to have this data in order to do any meaningful research.”
Trump’s v***r f***d claims and commission have been controversial from the start.
He originally called for a major investigation into v***r f***d back in January, after telling congressional leaders that 3 million to 5 million people illegally v**ed in the November e******n.
Trump said the probe would focus on those registered to v**e in two states, “those who are illegal” and registered v**ers who are actually dead.
The commission was not created until months later and was panned by critics as a vehicle to pursue his claim about millions v****g illegally. T***p w*n the E*******l College v**e, and with it the presidency, but lost the popular v**e to Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton by about 3 million v**es.
House Speaker Paul Ryan said back in January he had seen “no evidence” to back up Trump’s claim of millions of illegal v**es. Trump has since said the issue mostly revolves around v***r r**********n problems.
A 2012 Pew study indeed found evidence of outdated v***r r**********n forms, though the author of that study tweeted earlier this year there is “zero evidence” of fraud.
There have been some documented cases of v***r f***d, however, including cases Kobach has pursued in Kansas.
Kobach told Fox News' “Sunday Morning Futures” in May that the commission, chaired by Vice President Pence, would look beyond the 2016 e******n to cover v****g irregularities and fraud and registration problems.
“We'll be gathering data from all 50 states and we'll be using the federal government's databases which can been very valuable,” he said at the time. 

Be very careful demos....The Fed Government controls v****g requirements concerning General e******ns

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

If Trump were serious about discovering the t***h about v***r f***d, I might be incensed at such behavior - however - since the entire exercise is to try and prove that he in fact won the popular v**e too.....................I couldn't give a rats ass. Nearly every Secretary of State in every State in the union, has already done the investigation, including every RED State.................and found little evidence of v***r f***d, certainly ZERO evidence of rampant fraud, so.........................

MarvinSussman

The most important v***r f***d is Jerry Mander! Millions more v**e Demo than Repub nation-wide but it doesn't count!

bahmer

In the spirit of t***sparency then why not open each and every states registrations for v****g and show the country that you are in fact correct and that you have nothing to fear and that all is above board. I know that in Chicago or Cook county that the dead have v**ed there for years ever since I was a little boy in fact, That was about 70 years ago.

markinny

need a federal V**ER I.D. card.it would sort out the general population. it would shake the bush and flush out the millions of i******s who v**ed.that is why several blue leaning states will not comply. proof!!

Gatsby

With political rhetoric:
“California's participation would only serve to legitimize the false and already debunked claims of massive v***r f***d made by the President, the Vice President, and Mr. Kobach.”

Without political rhetoric:
“California's participation would only serve to legitimize the claims of massive v***r f***d made by the President, the Vice President, and Mr. Kobach.”

Clearly, democrats have nothing to fear but the T***H.

gnie Loc: Gods Creation

It is their chance to prove the President wrong and yet they decline....we know why...t***sparancy is not the dems strong suit.....they will however have to comply once served with subpoenas, it is an investigation.

pafret Loc: Northeast

There is noi question our nation is awash in i*****l a***ns. Obnama appeared on Television advising an i*****l a***n woman that she need not fear being arrested if she goes to the polls. As the single individual responsible for the orderly conduct of our society, he should not have entertained a petition or complaint from an i*****l a***n about any potential arrests and he certainly should not have advised her it was safe to go v**e.

It is time to get our head out of the sand and stop allowing politicians to decide such an important function. All v**ers, in national e******ns, should have a properly vetted Federal ID and suitable laws should be drawn to assure those ID's are retired at death. End these interminable equivocations and restore the one man one v**e ideal.

If electronic or computer methods are used to tally v**es, make altering, hacking or otherwise distorting the results a capital offense with a mandatory life sentence. If paper b****ts are used then continuous surveillance can be maintained to prevent b****t box stuffing or altering v**es.

Carol Kelly

Boo!

Carol Kelly

We must clean up the v**er rolls in order to have free e******ns in the future. I******s (what is it we can't understand) are illegal. They broke our laws. They should not have any say in our government. In fact, they should not be here living off us.

E

Why is it only Republicans who want an investigation into v***r f***d and only democrats who don't?
Why is it only Republicans who want proof of citizenship to r******r to v**e and only democrats who don't?
Why is it only Republicans who want picture I. D. to v**e and only democrats who don't?
Why is it only Republicans who want registration lists scoured for illegal v**ers and only democrats who don't?
Why is it only Republicans who want registration records matched with death records and only democrats who don't?

cheers

bahmer

When they come up with some really valued arguments as to why they believe what they believe it will be a cold day in hell.

E

Why is it only Republicans who want an investigation into v***r f***d BECAUSE IT HAPPENS and only democrats who don't BECAUSE IT HAPPENS MORE OFTEN WITH DEMOCRATS?
Why is it only Republicans who want proof of citizenship to r******r to v**e BECAUSE I******S ARE V****G and only democrats who don't BECAUSE THE I******S V**E DEMOCRAT?
Why is it only Republicans who want picture I. D. to v**e BECAUSE WE HAVE A SERIOUS NEED TO VALIDATE WHO A PERSON SAYS HE IS and only democrats who don't BECAUSE ALL TO MANY PEOPLE ARE V****G FOR SOME ELSE OR A PHONY REGISTRATION AND THEY USUALLY V**E DEMOCRAT?
Why is it only Republicans who want registration lists scoured for illegal v**ers BECAUSE GHOST V**ERS ARE ON THE REGISTRATION LISTS and only democrats who don't BECAUSE THEY GET PEOPLE TO COME IN AND V**E FOR THOSE THAT MOVED?
Why is it only Republicans who want registration records matched with death records TO PURGE THE LISTS OF PEOPLE WHO DIED and only democrats who don't BECAUSE THEY GET PEOPLE TO COME IN AND V**E FOR THOSE THAT MOVED?

I live in Chicago and there was proof back in the sixties and seventies when Mayor Daley help steel the e******n for Kennedy. The same people are in charge now.

Now, what are you afraid of? That we might actually find that there is fraud around America. Yes, some if it might be Republican. But we need to find out how it happens and do our best to stop it so our e******ns are really valid.

It might be 10%, but I doubt it. 120,000,000 v**es, 12,000,000. Not happening.
1%, now we are getting closer. 120,000,000 v**es, 1,200,000. That is enough to swing e******ns all over.
.1 % and that is still to much. 120,000,000 v**es, that is still 120,000 v**es.

What are you afraid of finding out. That it exists and it did swing a few e******ns.