A Quarter Of A Million: Try to follow me here, for wh**ever good it might do: Last night, I finished reading, for the second time, Iain Pears' "The Dream of Scipio", in which a 5th...

KiraSeer2016

Try to follow me here, for wh**ever good it might do:

Last night, I finished reading, for the second time, Iain Pears' "The Dream of Scipio", in which a 5th century Manlius Hippomanes, Roman provincial governor, attempted to salvage some semblance of Roman civilization, so that 1500 years later, this same civilization, albeit more "advanced", could murder 6,000,000 Jews. And in which the 14th century Pope Clement VI of Avignon was bribed by a French poet to help protect Jews from retaliation for perceived wrongdoings during the Black Death. (http://messianicjewishhistory.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/26-september-1348-pope-clement-vi-exonerates-jews-from-causing-the-black-death-otdimjh/)

Early Christian thinkers did exactly what St. Paul warned them against: they succumbed to the temptation to use reason, "the wisdom of the wise", to prove that Jesus was God. In so doing, Christ's message of forgiveness was perverted to the more childish---and selfish---one of sacrifice and salvation, and the associated loss of personal responsibility for one's own acts. (Did Jesus tell you to k**l Jews? No! He did not!! In fact, he said, "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.") And the teaching that God was "incarnated", that the "Word" was made flesh, is a corruption of the timeless divinity of God.

Early Christians, in contrast to Mohammed and Islam, had a tougher job, perhaps. They not only had to convert a pagan, and animistic, polytheistic people to a belief in monotheism, they also had to convince the philosophers, those who at that time were considered the "wise", that there was only one God. And they resorted to sophistry, something Paul was adamantly against. You cannot prove faith by reason. (Haven't I said that Dawkins can't prove God doesn't exist, and I don't have to prove that He does?) Because the ministry of Christ lasted only three years, the early Christians, of a fractious nature in the first place, devolved into a myriad of different beliefs and heresies (according to some.) An orthodoxy was definitely in order; whereas Mohammed was around for about a quarter of a century, and was able to keep those who submitted to God "rightly guided".

And this is the CRUX:

A quarter of a million Syrian innocents were k**led, while MILLIONS of American Christians turned their backs. But that's okay, I guess, as long as YOU get to heaven. They were only Muslims, anyway. And now America, composed mainly of Christians, thinks she can fix things.

Jews, Christians, Muslims; can they co-exist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIkrsBOymAY "Inch Allah".

KiraSeer2016

There are people, those connected with the entangled Left and g*******t deep state, who want me to remain separated from my husband and family, because they are afraid that if we are reunited, the whole miserable t***h about the Ovomit administration, and cohorts, will be available to the world. Who knows?

bahmer

KiraSeer2016 wrote:

Try to follow me here, for wh**ever good it might do:

Last night, I finished reading, for the second time, Iain Pears' "The Dream of Scipio", in which a 5th century Manlius Hippomanes, Roman provincial governor, attempted to salvage some semblance of Roman civilization, so that 1500 years later, this same civilization, albeit more "advanced", could murder 6,000,000 Jews. And in which the 14th century Pope Clement VI of Avignon was bribed by a French poet to help protect Jews from retaliation for perceived wrongdoings during the Black Death. (http://messianicjewishhistory.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/26-september-1348-pope-clement-vi-exonerates-jews-from-causing-the-black-death-otdimjh/)

Early Christian thinkers did exactly what St. Paul warned them against: they succumbed to the temptation to use reason, "the wisdom of the wise", to prove that Jesus was God. In so doing, Christ's message of forgiveness was perverted to the more childish---and selfish---one of sacrifice and salvation, and the associated loss of personal responsibility for one's own acts. (Did Jesus tell you to k**l Jews? No! He did not!! In fact, he said, "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.") And the teaching that God was "incarnated", that the "Word" was made flesh, is a corruption of the timeless divinity of God.

Early Christians, in contrast to Mohammed and Islam, had a tougher job, perhaps. They not only had to convert a pagan, and animistic, polytheistic people to a belief in monotheism, they also had to convince the philosophers, those who at that time were considered the "wise", that there was only one God. And they resorted to sophistry, something Paul was adamantly against. You cannot prove faith by reason. (Haven't I said that Dawkins can't prove God doesn't exist, and I don't have to prove that He does?) Because the ministry of Christ lasted only three years, the early Christians, of a fractious nature in the first place, devolved into a myriad of different beliefs and heresies (according to some.) An orthodoxy was definitely in order; whereas Mohammed was around for about a quarter of a century, and was able to keep those who submitted to God "rightly guided".

A quarter of a million Syrian innocents were k**led, while a million American Christians turned their backs. But that's okay, I guess, as long as YOU get to heaven. They were only Muslims, anyway. And now American thinks she can fix things.

Jews, Christians, Muslims; can they co-exist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIkrsBOymAY "Inch Allah".

Try to follow me here, for wh**ever good it might ... (show quote)

As long as the Muslim faction is involved they cannot coexist because the Muslim will follow the Quran and tells him that all Jews and Christians are infidels and that he is commanded to k**l all Jews and Christians and to subjugate them. Therefore they cannot coexist and they should be sent back to the middle east where they belong.

KiraSeer2016

bahmer wrote:

As long as the Muslim faction is involved they cannot coexist because the Muslim will follow the Quran and tells him that all Jews and Christians are infidels and that he is commanded to k**l all Jews and Christians and to subjugate them. Therefore they cannot coexist and they should be sent back to the middle east where they belong.

Please do not comment on this topic, unless you are an adult.

I say that because you are not only wrong, you refuse to consider or research Islam.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

KiraSeer2016 wrote:

Try to follow me here, for wh**ever good it might do:

Last night, I finished reading, for the second time, Iain Pears' "The Dream of Scipio", in which a 5th century Manlius Hippomanes, Roman provincial governor, attempted to salvage some semblance of Roman civilization, so that 1500 years later, this same civilization, albeit more "advanced", could murder 6,000,000 Jews. And in which the 14th century Pope Clement VI of Avignon was bribed by a French poet to help protect Jews from retaliation for perceived wrongdoings during the Black Death. (http://messianicjewishhistory.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/26-september-1348-pope-clement-vi-exonerates-jews-from-causing-the-black-death-otdimjh/)

Early Christian thinkers did exactly what St. Paul warned them against: they succumbed to the temptation to use reason, "the wisdom of the wise", to prove that Jesus was God. In so doing, Christ's message of forgiveness was perverted to the more childish---and selfish---one of sacrifice and salvation, and the associated loss of personal responsibility for one's own acts. (Did Jesus tell you to k**l Jews? No! He did not!! In fact, he said, "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.") And the teaching that God was "incarnated", that the "Word" was made flesh, is a corruption of the timeless divinity of God.

Early Christians, in contrast to Mohammed and Islam, had a tougher job, perhaps. They not only had to convert a pagan, and animistic, polytheistic people to a belief in monotheism, they also had to convince the philosophers, those who at that time were considered the "wise", that there was only one God. And they resorted to sophistry, something Paul was adamantly against. You cannot prove faith by reason. (Haven't I said that Dawkins can't prove God doesn't exist, and I don't have to prove that He does?) Because the ministry of Christ lasted only three years, the early Christians, of a fractious nature in the first place, devolved into a myriad of different beliefs and heresies (according to some.) An orthodoxy was definitely in order; whereas Mohammed was around for about a quarter of a century, and was able to keep those who submitted to God "rightly guided".

And this is the CRUX:

A quarter of a million Syrian innocents were k**led, while MILLIONS of American Christians turned their backs. But that's okay, I guess, as long as YOU get to heaven. They were only Muslims, anyway. And now American thinks she can fix things.

Jews, Christians, Muslims; can they co-exist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIkrsBOymAY "Inch Allah".

Try to follow me here, for wh**ever good it might ... (show quote)

A very interesting way of looking at current Christian thinking. I remember Paul's words to move on to meatier things and away from the baby food which is baptism and salvation.

I'm curious, which million Christians are you referring to?

KiraSeer2016

nwtk2007 wrote:

A very interesting way of looking at current Christian thinking. I remember Paul's words to move on to meatier things and away from the baby food which is baptism and salvation.

I'm curious, which million Christians are you referring to?

Those who turned their backs. Can you not read? The same ones who think they can fix the Middle East now. I told you, nwtk, in a PM, that I have left, spiritually, America. And a part of the reason is for the "thinking"---non-thinking, really---of those millions, who are just like bahmer.

Sicilianthing

KiraSeer2016 wrote:

Try to follow me here, for wh**ever good it might do:

Last night, I finished reading, for the second time, Iain Pears' "The Dream of Scipio", in which a 5th century Manlius Hippomanes, Roman provincial governor, attempted to salvage some semblance of Roman civilization, so that 1500 years later, this same civilization, albeit more "advanced", could murder 6,000,000 Jews. And in which the 14th century Pope Clement VI of Avignon was bribed by a French poet to help protect Jews from retaliation for perceived wrongdoings during the Black Death. (http://messianicjewishhistory.wordpress.com/2015/09/26/26-september-1348-pope-clement-vi-exonerates-jews-from-causing-the-black-death-otdimjh/)

Early Christian thinkers did exactly what St. Paul warned them against: they succumbed to the temptation to use reason, "the wisdom of the wise", to prove that Jesus was God. In so doing, Christ's message of forgiveness was perverted to the more childish---and selfish---one of sacrifice and salvation, and the associated loss of personal responsibility for one's own acts. (Did Jesus tell you to k**l Jews? No! He did not!! In fact, he said, "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.") And the teaching that God was "incarnated", that the "Word" was made flesh, is a corruption of the timeless divinity of God.

Early Christians, in contrast to Mohammed and Islam, had a tougher job, perhaps. They not only had to convert a pagan, and animistic, polytheistic people to a belief in monotheism, they also had to convince the philosophers, those who at that time were considered the "wise", that there was only one God. And they resorted to sophistry, something Paul was adamantly against. You cannot prove faith by reason. (Haven't I said that Dawkins can't prove God doesn't exist, and I don't have to prove that He does?) Because the ministry of Christ lasted only three years, the early Christians, of a fractious nature in the first place, devolved into a myriad of different beliefs and heresies (according to some.) An orthodoxy was definitely in order; whereas Mohammed was around for about a quarter of a century, and was able to keep those who submitted to God "rightly guided".

And this is the CRUX:

A quarter of a million Syrian innocents were k**led, while MILLIONS of American Christians turned their backs. But that's okay, I guess, as long as YOU get to heaven. They were only Muslims, anyway. And now American thinks she can fix things.

Jews, Christians, Muslims; can they co-exist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIkrsBOymAY "Inch Allah".

Try to follow me here, for wh**ever good it might ... (show quote)

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Does this answer your question about all 3 ?

Please read carefully.... most people still aren't really paying attention, click and enjoy.

http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-105956-1.html

KiraSeer2016

Sicilianthing wrote:

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I don't know what this link is saying, because I won't click on it, but if you assume it or they know more than I do, you would be wrong.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

bahmer wrote:

As long as the Muslim faction is involved they cannot coexist because the Muslim will follow the Quran and tells him that all Jews and Christians are infidels and that he is commanded to k**l all Jews and Christians and to subjugate them. Therefore they cannot coexist and they should be sent back to the middle east where they belong.

Your narrow view not only ignores the fact that a huge percentage of Muslim's don't espouse that but also suggests that many Christians are equally guilty of that type of thinking. Well, you're correct on the second point and that's a sad thing.

KiraSeer2016

nwtk2007 wrote:

A very interesting way of looking at current Christian thinking. I remember Paul's words to move on to meatier things and away from the baby food which is baptism and salvation.

I'm curious, which million Christians are you referring to?

Did you know Isaac Newton was not a Trinitarian? Of course, that was considered heresy, back in the day.

Sicilianthing

KiraSeer2016 wrote:

I don't know what this link is saying, because I won't click on it, but if you assume it or they know more than I do, you would be wrong.

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WTF ? Really ?

It's a Topic I posted here on OPP last week... so click on it and read it and you might learn some more Carol !

KiraSeer2016

nwtk2007 wrote:

Your narrow view not only ignores the fact that a huge percentage of Muslim's don't espouse that but also suggests that many Christians are equally guilty of that type of thinking. Well, you're correct on the second point and that's a sad thing.

You have more patience than I, nwtk. But then, so did Mohammed. And some Muslim theologians believe that is because I am a woman, and Mohammed, being a man, had more patience. I think they are right.

KiraSeer2016

Sicilianthing wrote:

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WTF ? Really ?

It's a Topic I posted here on OPP last week... so click on it and read it and you might learn some more Carol !

Well, with that kind of sweet talking, how can I refuse. I'll print it, probably, and take it home. That is, I don't actually have a home now, but back to where I subsist, because some---a majority, actually---in this country think I am something of a "sacrifice" to their physical needs and desires.

Sicilianthing

KiraSeer2016 wrote:

You have more patience than I, nwtk. But then, so did Mohammed. And some Muslim theologians believe that is because I am a woman, and Mohammed, being a man, had more patience. I think they are right.

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Furthermore I'd like to add something that I was biting my tongue on... and it's an argument I've been in here on OPP for a while in many other strings.

The reason we're in Syria is for the Bankster Families' to make it safe for them and wallstreet... and for the Petro Dollar Gas and Oil Pipelines and then in the end maybe Regime Change but not likely...

If the Stupid American people would actually wake up and know why and what we're doing there and who benefits from it all in the long run we'd be fighting a Revolution today and Sack Washington .

Can you dig it ?

KiraSeer2016

Sicilianthing wrote:

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WTF ? Really ?

It's a Topic I posted here on OPP last week... so click on it and read it and you might learn some more Carol !

I read the beginning of it, and found that YOU may be one i***tic crackpot!