Another attack in London (Page 3): She says it must be stopped. And then it usually ends there. We'll see......

kankune Loc: Iowa

Ricktloml wrote:

Actually she finally came out and said enough, the violence of radical Islam must be stopped. It is kind of stunning, we'll see how long this attitude lasts once the apologists for Islamic jihad start working on her

She says it must be stopped. And then it usually ends there. We'll see......

Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts

Ricktloml wrote:

Keep in mind Great Britain allowed Muslims in the town of Rotterham, between the late 1980s through the 2010s to sexually abuse and traffic in children, mostly white girls between the ages of 11 and 15. And the police knew about it for 10 years, and not only did nothing to help these children, they shielded the Muslims

It's enough to make one vomit, ma'am. I'm of the opinion that the U.K. has let the opportunity to rectify their tragic situation, slip by. I think the time is close, if not already at hand, for the citizens to either flee their country and let islam (I refuse to capitalize that word) take over completely, or, stand and fight. Not only politically, but also in the literal sense.

(Nice to hear from you btw, it's been a while. Hope things are good.👍)

Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts

Time for honesty about London: We are losing the fight against radical Islam.

"London, Manchester, Paris, Nice, Brussels, Kabul, Baghdad, the global carnage continues. Once again the West has been shocked by a horrific radical terrorist attack, the responses by our political leaders have become almost boiler plate:

· We will not let them win, they've claimed.

· We will not let them change us.

· Go on living your lives.

· We will fight the terrorists and we will defeat them.

Some have even claimed that we are winning. But enough is enough. It is time to get serious. It is time for honesty. Not the typical political sound bites. In early 2016 the Investigative Project on Terrorism, the organization published a study on trends in radical Islamic terrorism. The data was frightening, two statistics stand out. Fatalities from terrorist attacks had increased 744 percent from 2007-2011 to 2014-2015. The average annual fatalities had increased from roughly 3,200 deaths per year to approximately 27,000 deaths per year. The number of terrorist attacks during that time increased by roughly 500 percent.

The West has not realized that it is losing this fight against radical Islam.
I'm not the first to make this observation. Going back to 2011, former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, made the same statement, maintaining that the West was losing this war against radical Islamic terrorism. His statement came before the developments of the past five years with spikes in fatalities and terrorist attacks, a caliph**e in Syria and Iraq, and with Libya and Yemen becoming failed states.

Accordingly, it is worth highlighting two predictions from the 2016 IPT report. The analysis concludes that "Islamist attacks in Europe will increase over the next 18-24 months." The report also notes that "Europe's security systems will become more stressed and unable to respond to the rising challenges associated with the mass migration of refugees. Violence in Europe will increase in size and scope as Islamists exploit its nearly unregulated immigration system and Muslim enclaves such as Molenbeek in Brussels become more widespread."

In early 2016, the unfolding threat was screaming for a forceful response by the West. But there was no change in strategy or focus. There was zero recognition or admission that much of what had been done to combat radical Islamic terrorism over the last fifteen years had failed.

Thus, 2017 will most likely go down as the deadliest year in the "war against terrorism." This ought to be a wakeup call to everyone. President Trump has recognized the need and the current situation. But he is the exception. We all need to recognize the reality that we are not winning this war. Partisan divides need to be pushed aside. There is plenty of blame to go around. It is time to do a lessons-learned review to test what has worked and what has failed over the last 15 years. We need to implement new strategies to combat radical Islamic terrorism.

It's time to work with those who suffer at the hands of radical Islamic terrorists. How will those who suffer most, the Muslim community and Islamic religious leaders, step up?
How will the Christian community, which is experiencing a genocide in the Middle East, participate?
How will the governments of Muslim majority countries get seriously involved? What will governments in the West do? And how can Israel and the Jewish community become a part of the solution?

To defeat this threat, we need to hit the reset button. The citizens of the harrowing attacks in London, Manchester, Paris, Orlando, Boston, Kabul, Baghdad, and the many other cities and countries around the globe are demanding change from their political leaders to prevent future attacks.

Let's hope that they finally respond.

Pete Hoekstra is the Shillman senior fellow at the Investigative Project on Terrorism. He is the former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and is author of "Architects of Disaster: The Destruction of Libya."

https://apple.news/Accaqt-oBSkO0P9Vg8CidOQ

The Investigative Project on Terrorism - www.investigativeproject.org
http://www.investigativeproject.org/

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

Worried for our children wrote:

A cut & paste with my colorful commentary, feel free to add your own....
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London terror attack: British officials eye burka bans and stripping citizenship.

"After yet another deadly terrorist attack swept through the streets of Britain late Saturday, lawmakers and leaders were scrambling to take back the reins and foil any further tragedies."

(Realy? Only after the third consecutive attack, do lawmakers scramble? Let's see what ideas they have come up with.)

"British Prime Minister Theresa May, speaking Sunday after a meeting of the government's COBRA emergency committee, claimed there was "too much tolerance" of Islamist extremism in the U.K. and insisted that the country's counterterrorism strategy would be reviewed."

(Oh I see Theresa, let's conduct another "review", should your citizens wait for the next attack while you're "reviewing"?)

"While such reviews remain in preliminary stages, a British intelligence source told Fox News that it is an "all hands at the pump" approach, with Joint Intelligence Operations to be carried out collaboratively with M15, Scotland Yard and the Army's Special Air Service (SAS) all involved."

(Oh I see, you're just in the "preliminary stages", well as long as "all hands are at the pump", at least it seems you're getting the right people involved.)

"The points of focus include: recruiting and deploying even more counterterrorism officers, and pushing through new laws to "round up" suspected terrorists and, if convicted, stripping them of their citizenship as a deterrent."

(Gee, now there's an idea, wish I thought of that. Stripping them of their citizenship does nothing unless and until you're willing to start deportation proceedings.)

""There is also early talk that things could go as far as banning the burka," the source said. The burka debate has, for more than a decade, divided much of the British community. In 2006, MP and government minister Jack Straw first advocated support for such a prohibition in the media, but several years later apologized following the backlash. Nearby European countries such as France, Austria, Germany and Belgium have, over the years, implemented different degrees of legislation to restrict the wearing of full-face veils. It is just whispers at the moment, but if that goes live, one would guess that it will be enforced across the U.K.," the source noted"

(Oh, telling them what they can't wear ought to solve a lot, because they follow all current laws so well... gimme a break! And sshhhh, quiet, because they might hear you and get offended, can't have that...)

"Furthermore, the U.K. government is said to be planning how to dismantle the pockets of extremism and enforce better mechanism for community integration."

(First half of that is good, but they have demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt, that they have no intention to assimilate or integrate. Are you blind?)

"There are a lot of Muslim strongholds in the U.K. from London and Luton to Birmingham, Burnley and Blackburn," added the intel source. "Right now, through weak policies, we have allowed the fundamentalists to spoil it for the majority."

(Really!! Spoiled it for the majority!? Where is this majority? I certainly don't see them parading in the streets condemning any of these attacks. In fact, the silence is deafening. Wake up!!!! If nobody in the majority is actively condemning this, then they condone it.)

"British authorities also are said to be looking at ways to "force large Internet companies to ban extremist material on their search engines and additionally report any content that they find." In her address Sunday, May vowed that the Internet could no longer function as a "safe space" for jihadism. Another intelligence source confirmed that May's focus is very much on the role of the Internet - restricting and monitoring - in the quest to infiltrate where cells congregate and how they communicate."

(I doubt it will have any effect, but it can't hurt to try.)

"Authorities announced Sunday that raids were under way and that 12 individuals had been arrested in connection with the latest attacks."

(That's a good start, but what you actually do with these terrorists, will determine your resolve.)

"The British Embassy in Washington, as well as a spokesperson for May, did not immediately respond to a request for comment."

(Not responding to a request for comment, makes it appear to the rest of the world that you have your thumbs up your ass, and are unwilling to take advantage of additional opportunities to condemn these heinous acts.)

https://apple.news/AOjOSJnKLSGm78Ilg6ZiJMg

A cut & paste with my colorful commentary, fee... (show quote)

I have one suggestion for Britain. Start enforcing British law in the Muslim quarters of the country and arrest anyone who commits a crime against the government in those and other districts. And Sharia law enforcement should be banned.

bahmer

Worried for our children wrote:

Time for honesty about London: We are losing the fight against radical Islam.

"London, Manchester, Paris, Nice, Brussels, Kabul, Baghdad, the global carnage continues. Once again the West has been shocked by a horrific radical terrorist attack, the responses by our political leaders have become almost boiler plate:

· We will not let them win, they've claimed.

· We will not let them change us.

· Go on living your lives.

· We will fight the terrorists and we will defeat them.

Some have even claimed that we are winning. But enough is enough. It is time to get serious. It is time for honesty. Not the typical political sound bites. In early 2016 the Investigative Project on Terrorism, the organization published a study on trends in radical Islamic terrorism. The data was frightening, two statistics stand out. Fatalities from terrorist attacks had increased 744 percent from 2007-2011 to 2014-2015. The average annual fatalities had increased from roughly 3,200 deaths per year to approximately 27,000 deaths per year. The number of terrorist attacks during that time increased by roughly 500 percent.

The West has not realized that it is losing this fight against radical Islam.
I'm not the first to make this observation. Going back to 2011, former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, made the same statement, maintaining that the West was losing this war against radical Islamic terrorism. His statement came before the developments of the past five years with spikes in fatalities and terrorist attacks, a caliph**e in Syria and Iraq, and with Libya and Yemen becoming failed states.

Accordingly, it is worth highlighting two predictions from the 2016 IPT report. The analysis concludes that "Islamist attacks in Europe will increase over the next 18-24 months." The report also notes that "Europe's security systems will become more stressed and unable to respond to the rising challenges associated with the mass migration of refugees. Violence in Europe will increase in size and scope as Islamists exploit its nearly unregulated immigration system and Muslim enclaves such as Molenbeek in Brussels become more widespread."

In early 2016, the unfolding threat was screaming for a forceful response by the West. But there was no change in strategy or focus. There was zero recognition or admission that much of what had been done to combat radical Islamic terrorism over the last fifteen years had failed.

Thus, 2017 will most likely go down as the deadliest year in the "war against terrorism." This ought to be a wakeup call to everyone. President Trump has recognized the need and the current situation. But he is the exception. We all need to recognize the reality that we are not winning this war. Partisan divides need to be pushed aside. There is plenty of blame to go around. It is time to do a lessons-learned review to test what has worked and what has failed over the last 15 years. We need to implement new strategies to combat radical Islamic terrorism.

It's time to work with those who suffer at the hands of radical Islamic terrorists. How will those who suffer most, the Muslim community and Islamic religious leaders, step up?
How will the Christian community, which is experiencing a genocide in the Middle East, participate?
How will the governments of Muslim majority countries get seriously involved? What will governments in the West do? And how can Israel and the Jewish community become a part of the solution?

To defeat this threat, we need to hit the reset button. The citizens of the harrowing attacks in London, Manchester, Paris, Orlando, Boston, Kabul, Baghdad, and the many other cities and countries around the globe are demanding change from their political leaders to prevent future attacks.

Let's hope that they finally respond.

Pete Hoekstra is the Shillman senior fellow at the Investigative Project on Terrorism. He is the former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and is author of "Architects of Disaster: The Destruction of Libya."

https://apple.news/Accaqt-oBSkO0P9Vg8CidOQ

The Investigative Project on Terrorism - www.investigativeproject.org
http://www.investigativeproject.org/

b Time for honesty about London: We are losing th... (show quote)

WE could look at a couple of countries that seem to have a handle on the situation and virtually no terror attacks but that would be extreme wouldn't it. The two countries that come to mind are Poland and Japan. The reason that they don't have any terror attacks is simple and its because they ban Islam and Muslim and refuse them entrance into their counties. Simple yet effective and those countries live in peace. The EU is upset with Poland but they don't care and they don't have terrorist attacks either. Japan isn't in the EU so it doesn't bother them. Only those countries that are controlled by the EU and follow their directives suffer.

kankune Loc: Iowa

bahmer wrote:

WE could look at a couple of countries that seem t... (show quote)

I just heard that one of the terrorist losers had been on a TV show, had a person complain about him saying he watched YouTube all day and was becoming radicalized, and that someone else complained that he was trying to radicalized children on the playground. PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THIS LOSER WAS NOT TAKEN INTO CUSTODY BEFORE HE HELPED COMMITT THIS HEINOUS CRIME! Seems to me these politicians are letting this happen on purpose......Like I said lots of words, but NO actions.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

kankune wrote:

I just heard that one of the terrorist losers had been on a TV show, had a person complain about him saying he watched YouTube all day and was becoming radicalized, and that someone else complained that he was trying to radicalized children on the playground. PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THIS LOSER WAS NOT TAKEN INTO CUSTODY BEFORE HE HELPED COMMITT THIS HEINOUS CRIME! Seems to me these politicians are letting this happen on purpose......Like I said lots of words, but NO actions.

I do not believe that most them are doing it on purpose. They have turned a blind eye to the problem and hope it will disappear. With the liberal logic they have they have no other recourse and will continue on this path to the destruction of their countries.

kankune Loc: Iowa

Louie27 wrote:

I do not believe that most them are doing it on purpose. They have turned a blind eye to the problem and hope it will disappear. With the liberal logic they have they have no other recourse and will continue on this path to the destruction of their countries.

Very sad situation these days Louie. Very sad!

bahmer

kankune wrote:

I just heard that one of the terrorist losers had been on a TV show, had a person complain about him saying he watched YouTube all day and was becoming radicalized, and that someone else complained that he was trying to radicalized children on the playground. PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THIS LOSER WAS NOT TAKEN INTO CUSTODY BEFORE HE HELPED COMMITT THIS HEINOUS CRIME! Seems to me these politicians are letting this happen on purpose......Like I said lots of words, but NO actions.

Similar things occurred with the Boston Marathon bombers where the FBI knew and yet let them walk free. In fact the FBI was warned by Russia and yet they did nothing very very similar.

kankune Loc: Iowa

bahmer wrote:

Similar things occurred with the Boston Marathon bombers where the FBI knew and yet let them walk free. In fact the FBI was warned by Russia and yet they did nothing very very similar.

Same thing with the loser in Orlando. They had him on the radar for 2 years. 49 innocent lives lost. Very sad........