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U.N. Official Reveals Real Reason Behind Warming Scare
Jun 2, 2017 19:10:31   #
SinnieK
 
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/c*****e-c****e-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism/

Economic Systems: The alarmists keep telling us their concern about g****l w*****g is all about man's stewardship of the environment. But we know that's not true. A United Nations official has now confirmed this.
At a news conference last week in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.'s Framework Convention on C*****e C****e, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism.

"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution," she said.

Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris c*****e c****e conference later this year, she added: "This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally t***sform the economic development model for the first time in human history."

The only economic model in the last 150 years that has ever worked at all is capitalism. The evidence is prima facie: From a feudal order that lasted a thousand years, produced zero growth and kept workdays long and lifespans short, the countries that have embraced free-market capitalism have enjoyed a system in which output has increased 70-fold, work days have been halved and lifespans doubled.

Figueres is perhaps the perfect person for the job of t***sforming "the economic development model" because she's really never seen it work. "If you look at Ms. Figueres' Wikipedia page," notes Cato economist Dan Mitchell: Making the world look at their right hand while they choke developed economies with their left.

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Jun 2, 2017 19:29:09   #
BrickelBrak
 
.....t***sforming "the economic development model" away from the perverse political influence petro-dollar is another way to look at it.

IF ( and it's a big IF) our energy needs were not derived from fossil-fuels, we'd have a much different economic system, and a much different realm of politics

No g*******t bankster + oil companies could have a monopoly on Solar, Geothermal, Natural gas(locally derived) or wh**ever alternate fuel makes the most sense for a particular geography.

I realize this notion is, of course, pie-in-the-sky optimistic jibberish, but a thought to ponder for the sake of discussion. since this is a discussion board ( sometimes).

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Jun 2, 2017 20:05:09   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
BrickelBrak wrote:
.....t***sforming "the economic development model" away from the perverse political influence petro-dollar is another way to look at it.

IF ( and it's a big IF) our energy needs were not derived from fossil-fuels, we'd have a much different economic system, and a much different realm of politics

No g*******t bankster + oil companies could have a monopoly on Solar, Geothermal, Natural gas(locally derived) or wh**ever alternate fuel makes the most sense for a particular geography.

I realize this notion is, of course, pie-in-the-sky optimistic jibberish, but a thought to ponder for the sake of discussion. since this is a discussion board ( sometimes).
.....t***sforming "the economic development m... (show quote)


No, it is just plain gibberish. CO2 does NOT drive climate. The SUN drives climate.

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Jun 2, 2017 20:06:39   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
We could be energy independent. Even with f****l f**l. Oil is getting so cheap the big oil companies will be the first to switch to new technology and advance clean energy. Natural gas is slowly but surely pushing out coal. Just simple economics. Let Capitalism work. It is a flawed system but beats the hell out of any other.
BrickelBrak wrote:
.....t***sforming "the economic development model" away from the perverse political influence petro-dollar is another way to look at it.

IF ( and it's a big IF) our energy needs were not derived from fossil-fuels, we'd have a much different economic system, and a much different realm of politics

No g*******t bankster + oil companies could have a monopoly on Solar, Geothermal, Natural gas(locally derived) or wh**ever alternate fuel makes the most sense for a particular geography.

I realize this notion is, of course, pie-in-the-sky optimistic jibberish, but a thought to ponder for the sake of discussion. since this is a discussion board ( sometimes).
.....t***sforming "the economic development m... (show quote)

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Jun 2, 2017 20:12:46   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
JFlorio wrote:
We could be energy independent. Even with f****l f**l. Oil is getting so cheap the big oil companies will be the first to switch to new technology and advance clean energy. Natural gas is slowly but surely pushing out coal. Just simple economics. Let Capitalism work. It is a flawed system but beats the hell out of any other.


Lots of natural gas out there, over 200 years worth. Add in miniature nuclear power generators, and the USA is energy independent for longer than our history from the colonial period to now.

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Jun 2, 2017 23:54:36   #
BrickelBrak
 
peter11937 wrote:
Add in miniature nuclear power generators, and the USA is energy independent for longer than our history from the colonial period to now.


Nuclear energy got a bad rap from Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukishima. If improperly maintained or hastily deployed it can be dangerous but I've always thought it a viable alternative if done safely. plus the spent uranium is really heavy and makes nice bullets.

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Jun 3, 2017 00:23:27   #
BrickelBrak
 
peter11937 wrote:
No, it is just plain gibberish. CO2 does NOT drive climate. The SUN drives climate.


I'm not sold that CO2 does drive c*****e c****e. If anything, methane might so please stop with the farting.
What I do believe is that dependency on f****l f**ls, most especially Oil drives crony economics via the petrodollar. I believe the pull from the Paris accord will crush emerging alternative energy technologies(that do have a long way to go) which is exactly what the g*******ts want.

In some parts of Arizona, it's illegal to put Solar panels on your roof. The reason for this is that the power companies loose profits when individuals work toward energy independence.
On a larger scale, the g*******ts fear energy independence as it strips political power from the petrodollar.
Without the petrodollar being on top, the crony economics won't work and the g*******ts loose their foothold on the world.

Energy independence, I believe, is the way to smack down the g*******ts.

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Jun 3, 2017 01:17:04   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
BrickelBrak wrote:
I'm not sold that CO2 does drive c*****e c****e. If anything, methane might so please stop with the farting.
What I do believe is that dependency on f****l f**ls, most especially Oil drives crony economics via the petrodollar. I believe the pull from the Paris accord will crush emerging alternative energy technologies(that do have a long way to go) which is exactly what the g*******ts want.

In some parts of Arizona, it's illegal to put Solar panels on your roof. The reason for this is that the power companies loose profits when individuals work toward energy independence.
On a larger scale, the g*******ts fear energy independence as it strips political power from the petrodollar.
Without the petrodollar being on top, the crony economics won't work and the g*******ts loose their foothold on the world.

Energy independence, I believe, is the way to smack down the g*******ts.
I'm not sold that CO2 does drive c*****e c****e. I... (show quote)


The sun drives the climate and is the source of all energy here.

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Jun 3, 2017 05:45:51   #
Tug484
 
This has been out there for a long time, but the left ignores it.

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Jun 3, 2017 16:58:33   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
BrickelBrak wrote:
Nuclear energy got a bad rap from Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukishima. If improperly maintained or hastily deployed it can be dangerous but I've always thought it a viable alternative if done safely. plus the spent uranium is really heavy and makes nice bullets.


The former administration did not want nuclear energy to be a viable utility because the g*******ts don't make megabucks from it. To see to it, Obama made sure that alternate energy sources such as wind and solar qualified for tax breaks and subsidies and that nuclear doesn't. The result is that nuclear in many areas is not competitive.

A company operating reactors in Iowa and Illinois have closed 2 recently and has scheduled the closing of another located at Cordova, IL that serves many small towns, several mid-sized, and one metro area of approximately 500,000 people. The metro area is the "farm implement capital of the world" containing International Havestor, J. I. Case, Alcoa Aluminum, Caterpillar Tractor, and the world headquarters of John Deere among other industries.

The scheduled closing is causing business to move out, new business application to be withdrawn, a drastic drop in tax base, a poor economic outlook, and a once beautiful healthy busy Midwestern community that raised solid hard working honest children, to deteriorate.

And it is happening in many areas. I'm hoping Trump steps in to save these communities and that Obama is sent to prison and the key is lost.

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Jun 3, 2017 17:04:48   #
Tug484
 
Docadhoc wrote:
The former administration did not want nuclear energy to be a viable utility because the g*******ts don't make megabucks from it. To see to it, Obama made sure that alternate energy sources such as wind and solar qualified for tax breaks and subsidies and that nuclear doesn't. The result is that nuclear in many areas is not competitive.

A company operating reactors in Iowa and Illinois have closed 2 recently and has scheduled the closing of another located at Cordova, IL that serves many small towns, several mid-sized, and one metro area of approximately 500,000 people. The metro area is the "farm implement capital of the world" containing International Havestor, J. I. Case, Alcoa Aluminum, Caterpillar Tractor, and the world headquarters of John Deere among other industries.

The scheduled closing is causing business to move out, new business application to be withdrawn, a drastic drop in tax base, a poor economic outlook, and a once beautiful healthy busy Midwestern community that raised solid hard working honest children, to deteriorate.

And it is happening in many areas. I'm hoping Trump steps in to save these communities and that Obama is sent to prison and the key is lost.
The former administration did not want nuclear ene... (show quote)

I agree...he needs to be in prison for treason.

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Jun 3, 2017 19:32:53   #
Ricktloml
 
SinnieK wrote:
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/c*****e-c****e-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism/

Economic Systems: The alarmists keep telling us their concern about g****l w*****g is all about man's stewardship of the environment. But we know that's not true. A United Nations official has now confirmed this.
At a news conference last week in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.'s Framework Convention on C*****e C****e, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism.

"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution," she said.

Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris c*****e c****e conference later this year, she added: "This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally t***sform the economic development model for the first time in human history."

The only economic model in the last 150 years that has ever worked at all is capitalism. The evidence is prima facie: From a feudal order that lasted a thousand years, produced zero growth and kept workdays long and lifespans short, the countries that have embraced free-market capitalism have enjoyed a system in which output has increased 70-fold, work days have been halved and lifespans doubled.

Figueres is perhaps the perfect person for the job of t***sforming "the economic development model" because she's really never seen it work. "If you look at Ms. Figueres' Wikipedia page," notes Cato economist Dan Mitchell: Making the world look at their right hand while they choke developed economies with their left.
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/c****... (show quote)


She isn't the only U.N. official to reveal the true C*****e C****e agenda.

Former U.N. Climate Official Ottmar Edenhoff stated:

"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole," said Edenhoffer, who co-chaired the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel On C*****e C****e Working Group on Mitigation of C*****e C****e from 2008-2015. "We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy"
He then said "the next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economic summit during which the distribution of the world's resources will be negotiated"

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Jun 3, 2017 20:21:11   #
SinnieK
 
JFlorio wrote:
We could be energy independent. Even with f****l f**l. Oil is getting so cheap the big oil companies will be the first to switch to new technology and advance clean energy. Natural gas is slowly but surely pushing out coal. Just simple economics. Let Capitalism work. It is a flawed system but beats the hell out of any other.


'Capitalism' works and that is also part of why we are 'exceptional'. What made it a flawed system because of the "GREED and CORRUPTION" by the big corporations and the big government working together for their own interests.

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Jun 3, 2017 20:31:50   #
SinnieK
 
BrickelBrak wrote:
I'm not sold that CO2 does drive c*****e c****e. If anything, methane might so please stop with the farting.
What I do believe is that dependency on f****l f**ls, most especially Oil drives crony economics via the petrodollar. I believe the pull from the Paris accord will crush emerging alternative energy technologies(that do have a long way to go) which is exactly what the g*******ts want.

In some parts of Arizona, it's illegal to put Solar panels on your roof. The reason for this is that the power companies loose profits when individuals work toward energy independence.
On a larger scale, the g*******ts fear energy independence as it strips political power from the petrodollar.
Without the petrodollar being on top, the crony economics won't work and the g*******ts loose their foothold on the world.

Energy independence, I believe, is the way to smack down the g*******ts.
I'm not sold that CO2 does drive c*****e c****e. I... (show quote)


'Paris Climate Accord' goes further and deeper than just money but it is the vehicle for the g*******ts to accomplish their goal to make global government so it allows them to control the world. Here is how c*****e c****e can do for the g*******ts.

C*****E C****E: This is to make Americans poor and weak for easy control economically.

The NWO propagandizes first called f**e "G****l W*****g" but it didn't go well with more rain and storms so they change it to "C*****e C****e" which easy for them to hide behind it because by nature climate always changed. It has been changed since the Earth exists. The climate has changed from warm to cold and wet to dry and for this reason it allows the NWO and its minions to spin wh**ever they want.

This "C*****E C****E" is very crucial to their Agenda; it makes the NWO rich and make us American people poor and weak. We see companies leaving the country to other places because of the rules and regulations plus high taxes that the government imposes on them.

The government did this on purpose to make us poor and weak and the establishments/corporations rich on making deal with other countries using the f**e "C*****e C****e" as excuse to move jobs out of the country. The government and the giant corporations they scratch each other back.

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Jun 3, 2017 20:38:26   #
SinnieK
 
Ricktloml wrote:
She isn't the only U.N. official to reveal the true C*****e C****e agenda.

Former U.N. Climate Official Ottmar Edenhoff stated:

"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole," said Edenhoffer, who co-chaired the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel On C*****e C****e Working Group on Mitigation of C*****e C****e from 2008-2015. "We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy"
He then said "the next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economic summit during which the distribution of the world's resources will be negotiated"
She isn't the only U.N. official to reveal the tru... (show quote)


Also the scientists who wrote about the c*****e c****e/g****l w*****g had admitted that was not true. They agreed to the f**e science reports so they could get grants for their other researches.

This country get screwed because of the f**e reports and f**e news.

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