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May 9, 2017 16:07:23   #
Big Bass
 
oldroy wrote:
So well put.


Thanks!

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May 9, 2017 16:09:00   #
Ricktloml
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturally rebellious Irishman: authority was always to be questioned and usually resisted. Republicans were the establishment, the lowest and most callous people on earth. Yet I have to admit I was not quite clear why. Pro-union was enough in my family to v**e Blue all the way. It was entrenched in my thinking from a young age that Republicans were the dupes of the rich.

When I came back from oversea's service in 1968, I was more tempered in attitude and thinking but still not really knowledgeable about the differences in parties. It did not concern me that much; I thought both sides were a little over the top, though tended to distrust the establishment (i.e., Republicans) more. In Manhattan simply on a job search, I came upon an antiwar march. I had just finished lunch and was looking for a trash bin to toss my empty bottle of soda. Then I heard a police officer yell, "Drop it!" When I quickly scanned the surrounding ground, I realized he was talking to me: he had his hand on his gun and was staring right at me. What? Then I realized his concern was the empty soda bottle. "Drop it!" he shouted. I probably should not have laughed. He was quickly joined by two other officers who seemed eager to slay their first c****e. "Putting it down, putting it down," I said with one hand raised.

That was the end of the confrontation, but as I walked away a guy came up to me with a big smile, put out his hand, and said, "Welcome to the home of the free." I smiled. He introduced himself and said he was with the Quaker Marshall Program to maintain non-violence at demonstrations. Somehow he sensed that I was a recently returned Vet. I took their training and since that day until a few years ago, I was pretty much neutral about the American political landscape. Both parties, to me, did not represent the best interest of its citizenry. The emergence of the Tea Party and shameless racial attacks on the president changed that. Republicans were after d******eness: that was abundantly clear. Fear and h**e were their constant message. As Conservative media grew, so did the gulf between the parties and the American people. What to do?

I never knew politics and politicians were so corrupt, so openly corrupt. They blatantly lie everyday and their policies routinely hurt the middle class, poor, elderly, and young. This is done mostly by the Right that find fiscal concerns more important than people. Fiscal concerns are important, of course, but not above human life and dignity. It appears this is of little or no thought to them. End Meals On Wheels, after-school food programs, both of which the GOP lied and said their were no stats either helped, and you have a convert opposed to the heart against the lying, deceiving, conniving GOP.
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturall... (show quote)


And you believe because honest people dared to point out that it was OBAMA who was blatantly corrupt and lied repeatedly and abused executive power in an unprecedented way, then had his lap-dog media label ANY criticism as r****m. What is r****t is turning a blind eye to Obama's lies, corruption and abuses of power, while falsely accusing those who were appalled by his vile actions r****ts

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May 9, 2017 16:13:32   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturally rebellious Irishman: authority was always to be questioned and usually resisted. Republicans were the establishment, the lowest and most callous people on earth. Yet I have to admit I was not quite clear why. Pro-union was enough in my family to v**e Blue all the way. It was entrenched in my thinking from a young age that Republicans were the dupes of the rich.

When I came back from oversea's service in 1968, I was more tempered in attitude and thinking but still not really knowledgeable about the differences in parties. It did not concern me that much; I thought both sides were a little over the top, though tended to distrust the establishment (i.e., Republicans) more. In Manhattan simply on a job search, I came upon an antiwar march. I had just finished lunch and was looking for a trash bin to toss my empty bottle of soda. Then I heard a police officer yell, "Drop it!" When I quickly scanned the surrounding ground, I realized he was talking to me: he had his hand on his gun and was staring right at me. What? Then I realized his concern was the empty soda bottle. "Drop it!" he shouted. I probably should not have laughed. He was quickly joined by two other officers who seemed eager to slay their first c****e. "Putting it down, putting it down," I said with one hand raised.

That was the end of the confrontation, but as I walked away a guy came up to me with a big smile, put out his hand, and said, "Welcome to the home of the free." I smiled. He introduced himself and said he was with the Quaker Marshall Program to maintain non-violence at demonstrations. Somehow he sensed that I was a recently returned Vet. I took their training and since that day until a few years ago, I was pretty much neutral about the American political landscape. Both parties, to me, did not represent the best interest of its citizenry. The emergence of the Tea Party and shameless racial attacks on the president changed that. Republicans were after d******eness: that was abundantly clear. Fear and h**e were their constant message. As Conservative media grew, so did the gulf between the parties and the American people. What to do?

I never knew politics and politicians were so corrupt, so openly corrupt. They blatantly lie everyday and their policies routinely hurt the middle class, poor, elderly, and young. This is done mostly by the Right that find fiscal concerns more important than people. Fiscal concerns are important, of course, but not above human life and dignity. It appears this is of little or no thought to them. End Meals On Wheels, after-school food programs, both of which the GOP lied and said their were no stats either helped, and you have a convert opposed to the heart against the lying, deceiving, conniving GOP.
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturall... (show quote)

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Thanks for your open mind.

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May 9, 2017 16:21:12   #
LiberalLulu
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturally rebellious Irishman: authority was always to be questioned and usually resisted. Republicans were the establishment, the lowest and most callous people on earth. Yet I have to admit I was not quite clear why. Pro-union was enough in my family to v**e Blue all the way. It was entrenched in my thinking from a young age that Republicans were the dupes of the rich.

When I came back from oversea's service in 1968, I was more tempered in attitude and thinking but still not really knowledgeable about the differences in parties. It did not concern me that much; I thought both sides were a little over the top, though tended to distrust the establishment (i.e., Republicans) more. In Manhattan simply on a job search, I came upon an antiwar march. I had just finished lunch and was looking for a trash bin to toss my empty bottle of soda. Then I heard a police officer yell, "Drop it!" When I quickly scanned the surrounding ground, I realized he was talking to me: he had his hand on his gun and was staring right at me. What? Then I realized his concern was the empty soda bottle. "Drop it!" he shouted. I probably should not have laughed. He was quickly joined by two other officers who seemed eager to slay their first c****e. "Putting it down, putting it down," I said with one hand raised.

That was the end of the confrontation, but as I walked away a guy came up to me with a big smile, put out his hand, and said, "Welcome to the home of the free." I smiled. He introduced himself and said he was with the Quaker Marshall Program to maintain non-violence at demonstrations. Somehow he sensed that I was a recently returned Vet. I took their training and since that day until a few years ago, I was pretty much neutral about the American political landscape. Both parties, to me, did not represent the best interest of its citizenry. The emergence of the Tea Party and shameless racial attacks on the president changed that. Republicans were after d******eness: that was abundantly clear. Fear and h**e were their constant message. As Conservative media grew, so did the gulf between the parties and the American people. What to do?

I never knew politics and politicians were so corrupt, so openly corrupt. They blatantly lie everyday and their policies routinely hurt the middle class, poor, elderly, and young. This is done mostly by the Right that find fiscal concerns more important than people. Fiscal concerns are important, of course, but not above human life and dignity. It appears this is of little or no thought to them. End Meals On Wheels, after-school food programs, both of which the GOP lied and said their were no stats either helped, and you have a convert opposed to the heart against the lying, deceiving, conniving GOP.
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturall... (show quote)



This might help you get over your naivete:

William Magear Tweed —often erroneously referred to as "William Marcy Tweed", and widely known as "Boss" Tweed—was an American politician most notable for being the "boss" of Tammany Hall, the Democratic ... Wikipedia
Born: April 3, 1823, Manhattan, New York City, NY
Died: April 12, 1878, New York City, NY
Party: Democratic Party
Buried: Green-Wood Cemetery, New York City, NY
Spouse: Jane Skaden (m. 1844)
Quotes

*I don't care who does the electing, so long as I get to do the nominating.

*The way to have power is to take it.

*I don't care a straw for your newspaper articles, my constituents don't know how to read, but they can't help seeing them damned pictures.


Tweed was Irish, dontya know?

Here's more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_M._Tweed

Puts me in mind of present day Chicago politics.

You might be interested in this as well, you Irishman you. Have trouble with authority, do you? Would you like to explain that?

"Tammany Hall, also known as the Society of St. Tammany, the Sons of St. Tammany, or the Columbian Order, was a New York City political organization founded in 1786 and incorporated on May 12, 1789, as the Tammany Society. It was the Democratic Party political machine that played a major role in controlling New York City and New York State politics and helping immigrants, most notably the Irish, rise up in American politics from the 1790s to the 1960s. It typically controlled Democratic Party nominations and political patronage in Manhattan from the mayoral victory of Fernando Wood in 1854 and used its patronage resources to build a loyal, well-rewarded core of district and precinct leaders; after 1850 the great majority were Irish Catholics."

The Chicago Machine?

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May 9, 2017 16:34:52   #
LiberalLulu
 
Dr. Dross is beginning to disgust me. As does Alicia.

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May 9, 2017 16:44:27   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
padremike wrote:
Darn! I sometimes feel that way myself about people disagreeing with me. I do recall that Truman was sometimes referred to as "Hairy Ass" Truman. We wouldn't be having the problems with North Korea, and possibly even China, we do now if it hadn't been for Truman. He, like Obama, drew a yellow line. Some Democrats, for unknown reason, don't like to win wars. But Harry was a good, old fashioned, Democrat. There are none holding political office today.


It wasn't Truman's fault that the North Korean's leader Kim Il-sung sent his tanks across the 38th parallel and invaded an American protectorate territory. Truman responded to what was perceived as a push by the Soviet Union to extend C*******m world wide by force of arms.

The responsibility for today's nuclear standoff lies with the North Koreans who perpetuated the Kim Dynasty by giving power to Kim Il-sung's son, Kim Jong-il, and ultimately the current madman Kim Jong-un. Grandfather, father and son were all sabre rattlers and actual combatants.

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May 9, 2017 17:09:06   #
Bug58
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
Meals On Wheels gets 3% of its funding from federal grants.


Meals on Wheels also charges seniors and home-bound for those meals. Some pay by cash, others pay using food stamps. (how many of these Government programs do we need to pay for??)

Depending on which city/town/state they live in depends on how much they charge per meal.

Some of them receive their meal at a "Senior Day Care Center", not delivered directly to their homes, funds for those come from other grants and donations.

In one city they may charge $3 for one meal, in another city they may charge $7, but both cities would charge additional costs for more than 1 meal per day.

Monies come from various government organizations Counsel on Aging, USDA, Food Stamps ect. ect.

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May 9, 2017 17:53:41   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
pafret wrote:
It wasn't Truman's fault that the North Korean's leader Kim Il-sung sent his tanks across the 38th parallel and invaded an American protectorate territory. Truman responded to what was perceived as a push by the Soviet Union to extend C*******m world wide by force of arms.

The responsibility for today's nuclear standoff lies with the North Koreans who perpetuated the Kim Dynasty by giving power to Kim Il-sung's son, Kim Jong-il, and ultimately the current madman Kim Jong-un. Grandfather, father and son were all sabre rattlers and actual combatants.
It wasn't Truman's fault that the North Korean's l... (show quote)


Oh, I have no disagreement with Truman sending troops to Korea. In fact, I see no difference between Korea and Vietnam except geographical location. The enemy, the ideology was the same. What I fault Truman for is stopping MacArthur from defeating the North and China when we had them on the run. If Truman had let MacArthur loose there would be a unified Korea, China would have been defeated and quite possibly Vietnam would never happened. Of course that's all hindsight and speculation now. One of those great "what if."

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May 9, 2017 18:39:29   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
padremike wrote:
Oh, I have no disagreement with Truman sending troops to Korea. In fact, I see no difference between Korea and Vietnam except geographical location. The enemy, the ideology was the same. What I fault Truman for is stopping MacArthur from defeating the North and China when we had them on the run. If Truman had let MacArthur loose there would be a unified Korea, China would have been defeated and quite possibly Vietnam would never happened. Of course that's all hindsight and speculation now. One of those great "what if."
Oh, I have no disagreement with Truman sending tro... (show quote)


A war with China could have been disastrous. China currently has a 100 million man army and that is a lot of troops. MacArthur forgot that the military was subservient to the civilian authority and the political decision was not to engage China in a shooting war. MacArthur was insubordinate and essentially gave Truman no alternative to firing him.

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May 9, 2017 18:49:48   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturally rebellious Irishman: authority was always to be questioned and usually resisted. Republicans were the establishment, the lowest and most callous people on earth. Yet I have to admit I was not quite clear why. Pro-union was enough in my family to v**e Blue all the way. It was entrenched in my thinking from a young age that Republicans were the dupes of the rich.

When I came back from oversea's service in 1968, I was more tempered in attitude and thinking but still not really knowledgeable about the differences in parties. It did not concern me that much; I thought both sides were a little over the top, though tended to distrust the establishment (i.e., Republicans) more. In Manhattan simply on a job search, I came upon an antiwar march. I had just finished lunch and was looking for a trash bin to toss my empty bottle of soda. Then I heard a police officer yell, "Drop it!" When I quickly scanned the surrounding ground, I realized he was talking to me: he had his hand on his gun and was staring right at me. What? Then I realized his concern was the empty soda bottle. "Drop it!" he shouted. I probably should not have laughed. He was quickly joined by two other officers who seemed eager to slay their first c****e. "Putting it down, putting it down," I said with one hand raised.

That was the end of the confrontation, but as I walked away a guy came up to me with a big smile, put out his hand, and said, "Welcome to the home of the free." I smiled. He introduced himself and said he was with the Quaker Marshall Program to maintain non-violence at demonstrations. Somehow he sensed that I was a recently returned Vet. I took their training and since that day until a few years ago, I was pretty much neutral about the American political landscape. Both parties, to me, did not represent the best interest of its citizenry. The emergence of the Tea Party and shameless racial attacks on the president changed that. Republicans were after d******eness: that was abundantly clear. Fear and h**e were their constant message. As Conservative media grew, so did the gulf between the parties and the American people. What to do?

I never knew politics and politicians were so corrupt, so openly corrupt. They blatantly lie everyday and their policies routinely hurt the middle class, poor, elderly, and young. This is done mostly by the Right that find fiscal concerns more important than people. Fiscal concerns are important, of course, but not above human life and dignity. It appears this is of little or no thought to them. End Meals On Wheels, after-school food programs, both of which the GOP lied and said their were no stats either helped, and you have a convert opposed to the heart against the lying, deceiving, conniving GOP.
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturall... (show quote)



When ever was the tea party what you described, except on MSNBC, CNN, SOCIALISTS NEWS,

By your own admissions your ignorant to parties, and by what you post not much has changed.

Are you aware how the Magna Carta formed and influenced America's founding documents and the conservative party? Here are the first few paragraphs of many, I suggest before you make yourself look any more foolish, research the t***h.


Magna Carta Libertatum (Medieval Latin for "the Great Charter of the Liberties"), commonly called Magna Carta (also Magna Charta; "(the) Great Charter"),[a] is a charter agreed to by King John of England at Runnymede, near Windsor, on 15 June 1215.[b] First drafted by the Archbishop of Canterbury to make peace between the unpopular King and a group of rebel barons, it promised the protection of church rights, protection for the barons from illegal imprisonment, access to swift justice, and limitations on feudal payments to the Crown, to be implemented through a council of 25 barons. Neither side stood behind their commitments, and the charter was annulled by Pope Innocent III, leading to the First Barons' War. After John's death, the regency government of his young son, Henry III, reissued the document in 1216, stripped of some of its more radical content, in an unsuccessful bid to build political support for their cause. At the end of the war in 1217, it formed part of the peace treaty agreed at Lambeth, where the document acquired the name Magna Carta, to distinguish it

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May 9, 2017 18:57:26   #
jeff smith
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturally rebellious Irishman: authority was always to be questioned and usually resisted. Republicans were the establishment, the lowest and most callous people on earth. Yet I have to admit I was not quite clear why. Pro-union was enough in my family to v**e Blue all the way. It was entrenched in my thinking from a young age that Republicans were the dupes of the rich.

When I came back from oversea's service in 1968, I was more tempered in attitude and thinking but still not really knowledgeable about the differences in parties. It did not concern me that much; I thought both sides were a little over the top, though tended to distrust the establishment (i.e., Republicans) more. In Manhattan simply on a job search, I came upon an antiwar march. I had just finished lunch and was looking for a trash bin to toss my empty bottle of soda. Then I heard a police officer yell, "Drop it!" When I quickly scanned the surrounding ground, I realized he was talking to me: he had his hand on his gun and was staring right at me. What? Then I realized his concern was the empty soda bottle. "Drop it!" he shouted. I probably should not have laughed. He was quickly joined by two other officers who seemed eager to slay their first c****e. "Putting it down, putting it down," I said with one hand raised.

That was the end of the confrontation, but as I walked away a guy came up to me with a big smile, put out his hand, and said, "Welcome to the home of the free." I smiled. He introduced himself and said he was with the Quaker Marshall Program to maintain non-violence at demonstrations. Somehow he sensed that I was a recently returned Vet. I took their training and since that day until a few years ago, I was pretty much neutral about the American political landscape. Both parties, to me, did not represent the best interest of its citizenry. The emergence of the Tea Party and shameless racial attacks on the president changed that. Republicans were after d******eness: that was abundantly clear. Fear and h**e were their constant message. As Conservative media grew, so did the gulf between the parties and the American people. What to do?

I never knew politics and politicians were so corrupt, so openly corrupt. They blatantly lie everyday and their policies routinely hurt the middle class, poor, elderly, and young. This is done mostly by the Right that find fiscal concerns more important than people. Fiscal concerns are important, of course, but not above human life and dignity. It appears this is of little or no thought to them. End Meals On Wheels, after-school food programs, both of which the GOP lied and said their were no stats either helped, and you have a convert opposed to the heart against the lying, deceiving, conniving GOP.
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturall... (show quote)


sad to tell you . BUT obumer has cause more division between the classes and races than any one sense the 60's. with his promise if redistribution of wealth comments. that the American middle class needs to be risen up at a much quicker pace. obumer was a great divider not a person who wanted to unite the country. he might as well of spit in the face of all of our alies and made buddy , buddy with some of our worst enemies. he was trash as a president.

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May 9, 2017 19:08:42   #
E
 
Dr.Dross:
Nicely written, but how did you get so misguided. New here, I didn't know anything about you. It started out like you were going to revel how you changed from a Democratic, Union household to a converted Republican. Not. All it showed was the brainwashing of your youth. How misguided.

You talk about one incident in 1968 at an antiwar rally. The Democrats got us in that war and it was Johnson, a Democrat, who escalated it. I also had a 1968 incident, innocent like you. Only mine was at the Democrat Convention were I was driving home and got gassed by Democrat Mayor Daley in his battle against the Democrat leaning antiwar protesters.

Then you come up with, "The emergence of the Tea Party." They were against big government, nothing but peaceful rallies, and opposed to the growth of big government that the last POTUS represented.
"and shameless racial attacks on the president changed that." The racial attacks against the president were a made up political ploy by him and his team as far back as the primaries against Hilliary." We didn't have anything against a half white president. We were against his inexperience beyond community organizer and political puppet in the Illinois Senate and his Socialist/C*******t policies, his blatant use of the term "R****m" on any and all disagreement with him. We h**ed the way we thought he was destroying the country and his apology tour for America's greatness.
"Republicans were after d******eness: that was abundantly clear." Again, false. We were all for fighting him on all of the policies that we felt were destroying America. It was the Democrats and POTUS that tried to divide America with their false calls of r****m.
"Fear and h**e were their constant message." We didn't fear him. We feared for the downhill direction he was taking America. And we h**ed that the Republicans weren't fighting hard enough to stop him.
"As Conservative media grew, so did the gulf between the parties and the American people." Conservative media grew because of the obvious bias of the liberal press and their attacks against any opposition to the president, no matter how wrong. They are a refreshing breath of fresh air against that stench. "What to do?" Go Conservative and Republican and fight for a Free America, unfettered by overbearing socialist/c*******t policies of the past administration.

"I never knew politics and politicians were so corrupt, so openly corrupt." Well, I did. I grew up in Chicago with a totally controlled government under the democratic Daleys for over forty years as they slowly destroyed Chicago and its chance to grow to its full potential. And it was all for their personal control and hopefully fame. They were bums.
"They blatantly lie everyday and their policies routinely hurt the middle class, poor, elderly, and young." Your right. But it is the Democrats who lie the most and actually try to tell those poor democratic v**ers that they will try to help them as the cities, states and country falls further into the abyss.

cheers

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May 9, 2017 19:16:41   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
pafret wrote:
A war with China could have been disastrous. China currently has a 100 million man army and that is a lot of troops. MacArthur forgot that the military was subservient to the civilian authority and the political decision was not to engage China in a shooting war. MacArthur was insubordinate and essentially gave Truman no alternative to firing him.


No argument about MacArthur's insubordination, the issue is that MacArthur was militarily correct and he knew he could also have defeated China at that time. The issue is that here we have another situation where the civilian authority did not listen to the military experts and elected to follow expedient political choices that ultimately failed. Finally it appears we have a CIC who will listen to his military experts and not try and micromanage every move and bomb drop from the oval office.

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May 9, 2017 19:32:48   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
[quote=Alicia]*********************
Thanks for your open mind. [/quo



Bwahahahahahahahahah OH Lord you are so ripe......hahaha OHOHOheheeheheheheheheheh

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May 9, 2017 19:40:59   #
Homestead
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturally rebellious Irishman: authority was always to be questioned and usually resisted. Republicans were the establishment, the lowest and most callous people on earth. Yet I have to admit I was not quite clear why. Pro-union was enough in my family to v**e Blue all the way. It was entrenched in my thinking from a young age that Republicans were the dupes of the rich.

When I came back from oversea's service in 1968, I was more tempered in attitude and thinking but still not really knowledgeable about the differences in parties. It did not concern me that much; I thought both sides were a little over the top, though tended to distrust the establishment (i.e., Republicans) more. In Manhattan simply on a job search, I came upon an antiwar march. I had just finished lunch and was looking for a trash bin to toss my empty bottle of soda. Then I heard a police officer yell, "Drop it!" When I quickly scanned the surrounding ground, I realized he was talking to me: he had his hand on his gun and was staring right at me. What? Then I realized his concern was the empty soda bottle. "Drop it!" he shouted. I probably should not have laughed. He was quickly joined by two other officers who seemed eager to slay their first c****e. "Putting it down, putting it down," I said with one hand raised.

That was the end of the confrontation, but as I walked away a guy came up to me with a big smile, put out his hand, and said, "Welcome to the home of the free." I smiled. He introduced himself and said he was with the Quaker Marshall Program to maintain non-violence at demonstrations. Somehow he sensed that I was a recently returned Vet. I took their training and since that day until a few years ago, I was pretty much neutral about the American political landscape. Both parties, to me, did not represent the best interest of its citizenry. The emergence of the Tea Party and shameless racial attacks on the president changed that. Republicans were after d******eness: that was abundantly clear. Fear and h**e were their constant message. As Conservative media grew, so did the gulf between the parties and the American people. What to do?

I never knew politics and politicians were so corrupt, so openly corrupt. They blatantly lie everyday and their policies routinely hurt the middle class, poor, elderly, and young. This is done mostly by the Right that find fiscal concerns more important than people. Fiscal concerns are important, of course, but not above human life and dignity. It appears this is of little or no thought to them. End Meals On Wheels, after-school food programs, both of which the GOP lied and said their were no stats either helped, and you have a convert opposed to the heart against the lying, deceiving, conniving GOP.
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturall... (show quote)


All this time and you still haven't learned anything.

Yuri Bezmenov (former kgb) Psychological Warfare Subversion & Control of Western Society - Complete
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZnkULuWFDg

FULL INTERVIEW- VA Psychiatrist Exposes National Gun Confiscation Program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ppVC6cTpxY

Agenda: Grinding America Down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swBfmVKzUjU

CLEVER GLOBO-C*******TS & THEIR USEFUL LIBERAL I***TS
http://www.tomatobubble.com/c*******tsandliberals.html

C*******t Goals (1963) - How Many Have Been Fulfilled?
CURRENT C*******T GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would
be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of C*******t
affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.


5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of C*******t
domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of
Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free
e******ns under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States
has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is
rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its
own independent armed forces. (Some C*******t leaders believe the
world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow.
Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now
doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the C*******t Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American
institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as t***smission belts for socialism
and current C*******t propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control
of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student r**ts to foment public protests against programs or
organizations which are under C*******t attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial
writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of
artistic expression. An American C*******t cell was told to "eliminate
all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless,
awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote
ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship"
and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography
and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural,
healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social"
religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual
maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on
the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and
state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-
fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation
between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish
aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of
American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big
picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the C*******ts
took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any
part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental
health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of
the C*******t apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. T***sfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies.
Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but
psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a
means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose C*******t
goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy
divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence
of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and r****ding of children
to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and i**********n are legitimate
aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest
groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic,
political or social problems.

43. O*******w all colonial governments before native populations are ready
for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connelly reservation so the United States cannot prevent the
World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give
the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

Americans, being the most naive people among the nations, now believe that C*******m is dead because the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain have been removed. The ironic t***h is that C*******m has just switched names to become more "politically correct". Today it is called international democracy. The reason that the Berlin Wall came crashing down is not because C*******m is dead but because they have achieved the planned agenda to communize the West, including America. Washington D.C. has indeed become part of the New World Order of atheist governments. With the last vestiges of Christian law having been removed from "American government" over the last twenty years, there is no longer a threat of resistance against world C*******m. In reality, "American government" became part of the Iron Curtain, thus there was no more need for the likes of a Berlin Wall.

Once again, in their foolishness, the American public has believed the lies of their "leaders" who applaud "the fall of C*******m", while they have sold out the country to anti-Christian, anti-American statutes and regulations on the federal, state, and local levels. Posted below is a comparison of the original ten planks of the C*******t Manifesto written by Karl Marx in 1848, along with the American adopted counterpart of each of the planks, The American people have truly been "buried in C*******m" by their own politicians of both the Republican and Democratic parties. One other thing to remember, Karl Marx was stating in the C*******t Manifesto that these planks will test whether a country has become c*******t or not. If they are all in effect and in force the country IS c*******t. C*******m, but by any other name...??

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.
The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
We call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
We call in government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986);
Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
We call it the Federal Reserve which is a credit/debt system nationally organized by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).

6. Centralization of the means of communication and t***sportation in the hands of the State.
We call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of T***sportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of T***sportation regulations.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
We call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
We call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

AT SOME POINT IN YOUR LIFE.......................................SMARTEN UP!

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