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May 9, 2017 11:29:08   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
ron vrooman wrote:
So you have some knowledge and some arcane information. Now apply that to the situation. PAG was identified so read the post again. we the people have not had lawful legislation since Lincolns era. Each house will make their own rules. the Legislature since 1861 has been bogus. It is all color of law and legal fiction.
You appear to be one of the US citizens. Content with the UCMJ applied to the general public. I was also until I woke up 2014. It all plots on the bell curve.


Twas bryllyg, and ye slythy toves
Did gyre and gymble in ye wabe:
All mimsy were ye borogoves;
And ye mome raths outgrabe.

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May 9, 2017 11:29:37   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Nickolai wrote:
I cannot understand how any body that ever worked for some one else could v**e Republican. The most smug intolerant, judgmental, self righteous. sanctimonious people I've ever known are conservatives. All they have ever good for is to get in the way of progressives and try and slow them down,, They make no positive contributions to civilization and try to block every thing progressive want to do to improve our society. FDR saved 28 million from starving to death. by 1933 28 million Americans had no visible means of support. Along the eastern sea board there were people living on boiled dandelions. The railroad cars had more hoboes ridding the rails than had paying passengers in the cars above. Teen age hookers worked the hobo jungles risking disease. pregnancy, and death for a dime a trick. From the time of Hoover the government tried pouring money at the top as trickle down policy Republicans are so fond of but it did not work. So the WPA and CCC were formed and from 1933 to 1942 the government employed 12 million men directly. Labor, the socialist and c*******t parties were demanding change. Revolution was in the air so FDR went to the economic elites and told them something had to be done and that they would have to pay for it. That incomes above $25,000 would be taxed 100 % naturally they complained so a compromise was reached at 91 % Growth resumed at a good rate through 33,34,35, 30, and then the budget hawks got FDR to reign in spending and the economy fell into recession again Bankruptcy's increased un- employment rose and growth fell in to negative territory but FDR never proposed that government take over businesses or industries Electric Utility companies were allowed to operate as regulated monopolies. In short FDR did not go c*******t he saved Capitalism
I cannot understand how any body that ever worked... (show quote)


That's the biggest pile of Hogwash I've ever seen !

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May 9, 2017 11:47:34   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
Read what pafret writes.

4430 wrote:
That's the biggest pile of Hogwash I've ever seen !

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May 9, 2017 12:06:06   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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both parties are hijacked and need to be removed

Many years ago, I was having a rather heated conversation with a stranger I met in a bar and he asked me a pretty interesting question: Why does government exist? Of course, I had all of the usual 'government does this, that, the other' response. He let me go on about all the wonderful things government does and when I was finished, he smiled and said that government does none of that. Government pays corporations to do that with money gathered from the general population. He then asked me again, why does government exist? I was totally flummoxed. I knew that what he said was correct, that government 'pays' for things to be done, but that the money government pays with comes from the same people doing the work.

According to H. L. Mencken, "government is a broker in pillage, and every e******n is sort of an advance auction sale of stolen goods."
Daniel Webster puts it like this: "There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
C. S. Lewis had little good to say of government: "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

Granted, H. L. Mencken, Daniel Webster and C. S. Lewis were not big fans of government, and in the case of H. L. Mencken, government was seen as being borderline evil. Government advocates, having no apparent vested interest, are difficult to find, but do exist. Of the ones more easily found, there is a marked socialist leaning in their advocacy. This from http://governmentisgood.com/ : "We need to recognize that despite its problems, government plays an essential role in promoting the good life for all Americans. When we recklessly reduce and underfund (sic) this institution, we are hampering our ability to improve people’s lives and to effectively address our pressing social, economic, and environmental problems." Notice how we are hampering our ability to improve peoples' lives. Government is 'us', and if 'we' don't fund 'us', lives are not 'improved'. Socialist doublespeak at its finest.

Thomas Jefferson clearly knew the pitfalls of government as he wrote to John Quincy Adams, in 1817: "Shall we mould our citizens to the law, or the law to our citizens? And in solving this question their peculiar character is an element not to be neglected." His reference to 'their peculiar character' is somewhat ominous when taken in this context.

To say that 'both parties are hijacked' is to accept that there is a difference between them. Putting bombastic rhetoric aside and looking solely at actions, it is clear that there is a single agenda at play and it is split between the two halves of the duopoly. One half focuses on so-called 'social issues', the other is seen to focus on 'law and order' or 'national security'. The end result of both outlooks is to increase government spending and thus government power. This is blatantly obvious when the balance of power shifts from one side to the other. All at once there is this great show of 'undoing' the 'awful' acts of those previously in power and 'enacting' the newly elected agenda. On balance, the previously passed laws and regulations do appear to be reduced but never reversed, regardless of who takes power from who. There is always the increased spending that never seems to be reduced back to previous levels; and so the march of government power is advanced.

The idea of 'removing both parties' is laudable, but then we see a government apparatus in place with no staffing. A 'power vacuum', if you will. That would be very quickly filled and not necessarily by those with our best interests at heart. My solution? Disband government entirely. Revoke its charter and replace it with nothing. The United States of America is a confederation consisting of 50 independently constituted countries, all perfectly capable of taking care of themselves and even more so when freed of the burden of federalist interference. There is the growing movement for a second Constitutional Convention to be held and for the Constitution to be revised by this convention. Again? Don't forget what happened last time when the delegates closed the doors behind them and swore each other to secrecy. Imagine the likes of Nancy Pelosi or Newt Gingrich being in on that one. No thanks!

Get rid of it. All of it.

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May 9, 2017 12:12:50   #
LiberalLulu
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturally rebellious Irishman: authority was always to be questioned and usually resisted. Republicans were the establishment, the lowest and most callous people on earth. Yet I have to admit I was not quite clear why. Pro-union was enough in my family to v**e Blue all the way. It was entrenched in my thinking from a young age that Republicans were the dupes of the rich.

When I came back from oversea's service in 1968, I was more tempered in attitude and thinking but still not really knowledgeable about the differences in parties. It did not concern me that much; I thought both sides were a little over the top, though tended to distrust the establishment (i.e., Republicans) more. In Manhattan simply on a job search, I came upon an antiwar march. I had just finished lunch and was looking for a trash bin to toss my empty bottle of soda. Then I heard a police officer yell, "Drop it!" When I quickly scanned the surrounding ground, I realized he was talking to me: he had his hand on his gun and was staring right at me. What? Then I realized his concern was the empty soda bottle. "Drop it!" he shouted. I probably should not have laughed. He was quickly joined by two other officers who seemed eager to slay their first c****e. "Putting it down, putting it down," I said with one hand raised.

That was the end of the confrontation, but as I walked away a guy came up to me with a big smile, put out his hand, and said, "Welcome to the home of the free." I smiled. He introduced himself and said he was with the Quaker Marshall Program to maintain non-violence at demonstrations. Somehow he sensed that I was a recently returned Vet. I took their training and since that day until a few years ago, I was pretty much neutral about the American political landscape. Both parties, to me, did not represent the best interest of its citizenry. The emergence of the Tea Party and shameless racial attacks on the president changed that. Republicans were after d******eness: that was abundantly clear. Fear and h**e were their constant message. As Conservative media grew, so did the gulf between the parties and the American people. What to do?

I never knew politics and politicians were so corrupt, so openly corrupt. They blatantly lie everyday and their policies routinely hurt the middle class, poor, elderly, and young. This is done mostly by the Right that find fiscal concerns more important than people. Fiscal concerns are important, of course, but not above human life and dignity. It appears this is of little or no thought to them. End Meals On Wheels, after-school food programs, both of which the GOP lied and said their were no stats either helped, and you have a convert opposed to the heart against the lying, deceiving, conniving GOP.
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturall... (show quote)


Didya know, it was the Irish, when they immigrated to America, that brought the idea that government should take care of them? Of course you're Irish, Paddy.

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May 9, 2017 12:14:53   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Nickolai wrote:
I cannot understand how any body that ever worked for some one else could v**e Republican. The most smug intolerant, judgmental, self righteous. sanctimonious people I've ever known are conservatives. All they have ever good for is to get in the way of progressives and try and slow them down,, They make no positive contributions to civilization and try to block every thing progressive want to do to improve our society. FDR saved 28 million from starving to death. by 1933 28 million Americans had no visible means of support. Along the eastern sea board there were people living on boiled dandelions. The railroad cars had more hoboes ridding the rails than had paying passengers in the cars above. Teen age hookers worked the hobo jungles risking disease. pregnancy, and death for a dime a trick. From the time of Hoover the government tried pouring money at the top as trickle down policy Republicans are so fond of but it did not work. So the WPA and CCC were formed and from 1933 to 1942 the government employed 12 million men directly. Labor, the socialist and c*******t parties were demanding change. Revolution was in the air so FDR went to the economic elites and told them something had to be done and that they would have to pay for it. That incomes above $25,000 would be taxed 100 % naturally they complained so a compromise was reached at 91 % Growth resumed at a good rate through 33,34,35, 30, and then the budget hawks got FDR to reign in spending and the economy fell into recession again Bankruptcy's increased un- employment rose and growth fell in to negative territory but FDR never proposed that government take over businesses or industries Electric Utility companies were allowed to operate as regulated monopolies. In short FDR did not go c*******t he saved Capitalism
I cannot understand how any body that ever worked... (show quote)



Then please explain Nikolai, how FDR ordering government agents (G-men) to seize thousands of gallons of milk and our them down sewers helped all those starving people. (I will settle for your answering this but I have numerous others.)

Almost immediately upon assuming office, he ordered the seizure of all privately held gold in this country. Safe deposit boxes were sealed in every single bank & other similar financial institution across the country & had to be opened in the presence of a G-man. Only collectibles, such as jewelry, were permitted to be retained by the public.
Once that totalitarian move was completed, he unilaterally devalued the dollar by 43% by increasing the value of gold from $20 per ounce to $35. This reduced the value of all privately held savings, devastating millions of families. Much of that seeming economic growth during the New Deal was due to this simple devaluation.

By 1937, even his closest Keynesian c*******t/f*****t economic advisors were admittng The New Deal hadn't worked. By 1940, he was likely in early senile dementia from his uncontrolled malignant hypertension.

Now please tell us how the policies of FDR helped the ordinary American.

And, just for good measure, please note that his policies influenced a contemporary world leader, Adolf Hitler, who modeled his Youth Corp after the CCC & WPA that produced projects of similar worthlessness.

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May 9, 2017 12:32:01   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Then please explain to me Comrade Nikolai, how FDR ordering government agents (G-men) to seize thousands of gallons of milk and our them down sewers helped all those starving people. (I will settle for your answering this but I have numerous others.)

Almost immediately upon assuming office, he ordered the seizure of all privately held gold in this country. Safe deposit boxes were sealed in every single bank & other similar financial institution across the country & had to be opened in the presence of a G-man. Only collectibles, such as jewelry, were permitted to be retained by the public.
Once that totalitarian move was completed, he unilaterally devalued the dollar by 43% by increasing the value of gold from $20 per ounce to $35. This reduced the value of all privately held savings, devastating millions of families. Much of that seeming economic growth during the New Deal was due to this simple devaluation.

By 1937, even his closest Keynesian c*******t/f*****t economic advisors were admittng The New Deal hadn't worked. By 1940, he was likely in early senile dementia from his uncontrolled malignant hypertension.

Now please tell us how the policies of FDR helped the ordinary American.
Then please explain to me Comrade Nikolai, how FDR... (show quote)


Ha! I know the answer to this question. He eventually gave us a new dime. Unfortunately, there were many Americans who despised him so much they refused Roosevelt dimes in change and insisted on two nickels or a liberty dime. I bet they're going to try and put Obama's icon on ........I don't even want to speculate.

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May 9, 2017 12:36:27   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
padremike wrote:
Ha! I know the answer to this question. He eventually gave us a new dime. Unfortunately, there were many Americans who despised him so much they refused Roosevelt dimes in change and insisted on two nickels or a liberty dime. I bet they're going to try and put Obama's icon on ........I don't even want to speculate.



Thank you but don't forget, this was targeted for Nikolai. What are the odds he'll respond?

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May 9, 2017 12:39:13   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturally rebellious Irishman: authority was always to be questioned and usually resisted. Republicans were the establishment, the lowest and most callous people on earth. Yet I have to admit I was not quite clear why. Pro-union was enough in my family to v**e Blue all the way. It was entrenched in my thinking from a young age that Republicans were the dupes of the rich.

When I came back from oversea's service in 1968, I was more tempered in attitude and thinking but still not really knowledgeable about the differences in parties. It did not concern me that much; I thought both sides were a little over the top, though tended to distrust the establishment (i.e., Republicans) more. In Manhattan simply on a job search, I came upon an antiwar march. I had just finished lunch and was looking for a trash bin to toss my empty bottle of soda. Then I heard a police officer yell, "Drop it!" When I quickly scanned the surrounding ground, I realized he was talking to me: he had his hand on his gun and was staring right at me. What? Then I realized his concern was the empty soda bottle. "Drop it!" he shouted. I probably should not have laughed. He was quickly joined by two other officers who seemed eager to slay their first c****e. "Putting it down, putting it down," I said with one hand raised.

That was the end of the confrontation, but as I walked away a guy came up to me with a big smile, put out his hand, and said, "Welcome to the home of the free." I smiled. He introduced himself and said he was with the Quaker Marshall Program to maintain non-violence at demonstrations. Somehow he sensed that I was a recently returned Vet. I took their training and since that day until a few years ago, I was pretty much neutral about the American political landscape. Both parties, to me, did not represent the best interest of its citizenry. The emergence of the Tea Party and shameless racial attacks on the president changed that. Republicans were after d******eness: that was abundantly clear. Fear and h**e were their constant message. As Conservative media grew, so did the gulf between the parties and the American people. What to do?

I never knew politics and politicians were so corrupt, so openly corrupt. They blatantly lie everyday and their policies routinely hurt the middle class, poor, elderly, and young. This is done mostly by the Right that find fiscal concerns more important than people. Fiscal concerns are important, of course, but not above human life and dignity. It appears this is of little or no thought to them. End Meals On Wheels, after-school food programs, both of which the GOP lied and said their were no stats either helped, and you have a convert opposed to the heart against the lying, deceiving, conniving GOP.
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturall... (show quote)



"End Meals On Wheels, after-school food programs, both of which the GOP lied and said their were no stats either helped, and you have a convert opposed to the heart against the lying, deceiving, conniving GOP."

Only a MORON would think the GOVERNMENT is RESPONSIBLE to FEED YOUR LAZY AZZ! I've been taking care of myself since I was an ADULT! Of course, some azz holes like you NEVER GROW THE HELL UP!

Lying? Conniving? GOP? You take the blue ribbon award for all of those traits!

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May 9, 2017 12:41:10   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
LiberalLou wrote:
Didya know, it was the Irish, when they immigrated to America, that brought the idea that government should take care of them? Of course you're Irish, Paddy.


He is lying about that...Dr DROSS is from Ethiopia. He "don't need no sun tan".......

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May 9, 2017 12:42:40   #
Armagh
 
America Only wrote:
He is lying about that...Dr DROSS is from Ethiopia. He "don't need no sun tan".......


Well, he certainly has an "Irish" outlook on welfare!!

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May 9, 2017 12:43:18   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Big Bass wrote:
"Before coming here to OPP, I was extremely naive about Politics and Politicians"
You haven't changed a bit.


Yes he changed, he got more mentally r****ded....hahaha!

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May 9, 2017 12:43:29   #
maureenthannon
 
Dr.D, Do you really think that the Democrats care about people? Politicians on both sides of the aisle are self centered. But the Democrats want to keep most people ignorant so that they can take advantage of them. The Left are power hungry. They want to keep the poor in poverty so they can keep convincing them that they're victims of the evil rich people. I'm not at all wealthy, but I sure don't want to be dependent on Big Brother. You should read George Orwell's book "1984" to get a peak at where the Left want to take us.

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May 9, 2017 12:50:02   #
Big Bass
 
America Only wrote:
Yes he changed, he got more mentally r****ded....hahaha!



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May 9, 2017 12:58:32   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Dr.Dross wrote:
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturally rebellious Irishman: authority was always to be questioned and usually resisted. Republicans were the establishment, the lowest and most callous people on earth. Yet I have to admit I was not quite clear why. Pro-union was enough in my family to v**e Blue all the way. It was entrenched in my thinking from a young age that Republicans were the dupes of the rich.

When I came back from oversea's service in 1968, I was more tempered in attitude and thinking but still not really knowledgeable about the differences in parties. It did not concern me that much; I thought both sides were a little over the top, though tended to distrust the establishment (i.e., Republicans) more. In Manhattan simply on a job search, I came upon an antiwar march. I had just finished lunch and was looking for a trash bin to toss my empty bottle of soda. Then I heard a police officer yell, "Drop it!" When I quickly scanned the surrounding ground, I realized he was talking to me: he had his hand on his gun and was staring right at me. What? Then I realized his concern was the empty soda bottle. "Drop it!" he shouted. I probably should not have laughed. He was quickly joined by two other officers who seemed eager to slay their first c****e. "Putting it down, putting it down," I said with one hand raised.

That was the end of the confrontation, but as I walked away a guy came up to me with a big smile, put out his hand, and said, "Welcome to the home of the free." I smiled. He introduced himself and said he was with the Quaker Marshall Program to maintain non-violence at demonstrations. Somehow he sensed that I was a recently returned Vet. I took their training and since that day until a few years ago, I was pretty much neutral about the American political landscape. Both parties, to me, did not represent the best interest of its citizenry. The emergence of the Tea Party and shameless racial attacks on the president changed that. Republicans were after d******eness: that was abundantly clear. Fear and h**e were their constant message. As Conservative media grew, so did the gulf between the parties and the American people. What to do?

I never knew politics and politicians were so corrupt, so openly corrupt. They blatantly lie everyday and their policies routinely hurt the middle class, poor, elderly, and young. This is done mostly by the Right that find fiscal concerns more important than people. Fiscal concerns are important, of course, but not above human life and dignity. It appears this is of little or no thought to them. End Meals On Wheels, after-school food programs, both of which the GOP lied and said their were no stats either helped, and you have a convert opposed to the heart against the lying, deceiving, conniving GOP.
I was raised not just a Democrat but as a naturall... (show quote)


"The emergence of the Tea Party and shameless racial attacks on the president changed that. Republicans were after d******eness: that was abundantly clear. Fear and h**e were their constant message. As Conservative media grew, so did the gulf between the parties and the American people. What to do?" - Dr.Dross

Take a closer look Dross.

Party politics: “The Fix” was in until 2016:
(Originally written in 1992)
The majority of Americans are disgusted with our government “representatives”, and what is happening in America. The frustration has been spreading, this time, Americans did not fall for “The Fix”. It is obvious something had to change; but what? To solve any problem, “the root cause” must be discovered, understood, exposed, and eliminated.
In the realm of politics; exposing “the root cause” of America’s decline on any significant scale, has been unattainable. Almost all major media is directed and controlled by “the root cause” which sets “The Fix”.
Decade after decade, and e******n after e******n; too many v**ers have fallen for “The Fix”. They either didn’t v**e out of disgust; or they v**ed for “the lesser of two evils”. This syndrome has put America where it is today, and evil continues to prosper. Give thought to “The Fix”. The Democratic Party promotes a variety of liberals/socialists, (“progressives”), and the Republican Party promotes a variety of “Conservatives” (old line conservatives, and covert global socialists/NeoCONS; The Bushes and their “New World Order” are two examples). Under both parties, our Constitutional Republic (not democracy), has been decimated. The Constitution and the principles that made our country the most prosperous, and the envy of the world, has been replaced with a semi-covert agenda for global socialism. Few Americans understand the purpose of the g*******t agenda; but most politicians believe in it, or have sold out to it. That is why their oaths to uphold and defend the Constitution have been meaningless to most of them.
“The Root Cause” of our country’s decline; is the privately owned Federal Reserve System (banks), and their control of our money and economy. The perpetrators are the Internationalist Banking Cabal, whose policy it is, to create a global socialist “New World Order”.
With their vast wealth, media control (ownership), control of (“public”) education, and control of the party apparatus; they have been able to ensure that both parties nominated candidates that would carry out their agenda. With this control, the people fell for “The Fix”; out of disgust they either didn’t v**e, or they felt compelled to v**e for “the lesser of two evils”, – banker backed “A” or “B”. all other parties were ignored.
The v**ers are told, “no one else can win”, (“don’t Waste your v**e); now the s**m was to convince the v**ers “who is the most electable against Obama”. It had to be someone the Bankers knew they could control, to ensure that their agenda was carried out.). That agenda is a One World totalitarian socialist dictatorship, administered by their front men. I will as concisely as possible back this statement up with their own writings, and try to stir the readers to give this letter thought and thus, renounce the NWO agenda.
Both parties executive cabinets (national security advisors) are filled with members of “the Council on Foreign Relations” (CFR) and “the Trilateral Commission” (TC)). John D. Rockefeller formed the (CFR) in early 1920’s, and David Rockefeller formed the TC in 1973. David Rockefeller’s chief foreign policy advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, put the organization together for his boss. Jimmy Carter was made a TC founding member. After Carter was elected president, he filled his cabinet with CFR/TC members, with Zbigniew Brzezinski as his chief foreign policy “advisor”. Reagan’s cabinet began with fewer (CFR) members, but many non (CFR) members were drummed out of office. (with the help of the liberal MSM). When Reagan finished office, most were again CFR/TC members. Bush senior is a Trilateralist and 9 of 11 of his national security council are (CFR) members. Bill Clinton is a CFR/TC member, and attended the Bilderberg meeting last year. P. Volker, A. Greenspan, H. Kissinger, Robert Strange McNamara are but a few of the high officials that belong to the CFR, TC, and the Bilderberg Group.
To show where these people and organizations are coming from I quote: TC report #23, 1982 – “… actions at the multinational level will be needed if the process of international relocation of industries is to be accelerated in an organized fashion …” (a policy to deindustrialize America) Now; please really reflect on what has happened under both parties CFR/TC administrations and Congresses.
Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote in his book, “between two ages” p. 72 (1970) - “Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external active man over the inner passive man, and a victory of reason over belief.” This man, a Democrat and Henry Kissinger, a Republican; both employed by David Rockefeller, and both CFR/TC /Bilderberger members. Both are one world g*******ts (pro Marxist/F*****t, per their own writings). Think about it! Can you see how “The Fix” is ensuring a one world dictatorship, to be ruled by these parasitic elitists?
(Zbigniew Brzezinski (ZB) ( http://www.wanttoknow.info/brzezinskigrandchessboard.shtml )

In “Foreign Affairs ”(a CFR publication), April 1974, Richard Gardener, Ambassador to Italy, writes “an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal attack.”

******* BELOW ARE A FEW QUOTED WARNINGS ON BANKING *******

“If Congress has the right to issue paper money, it was given to them to be used by themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.” - President Andrew Jackson (he revoked the U. S. Banking Charter in 1832. (A double misfire at point blank range of an attempted assassination saved his life.)
The Federal Reserve (privately owned banks) is one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen.” - Senator Louis T. McFadden, 1934 (chairman of the U. S. Banking and Currency Commission for over 10 years) (probably assassinated; there were several attempts on his life before his suspicious death )

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs.” - President Thomas Jefferson
“All the perplexities, confusion, and distress in America arise, not from defects in the Constitution or confederation, not from a lack of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation.” - President John Adams
This ignorance still exists by design. (A magnificent cover up, (made possible by both political parties, the LSM, and “public education”). Nothing has changed except the sophistication and advancement of their one world agenda; made possible with the increased corruption, ignorance, and/or cowardice of our “leaders” (politicians). The internationalist bankers and their comrades, promote and fund any government that does their bidding; be it “democracy”, socialistic, c*******tic, dictatorship, or monarchy. For example: Bush senior, just pushed for, and Congress passed extension of “most favored nation status” to C*******t China.
The above forms of government promote the separation of a worker from his earnings through taxation and/or extortion. The constitution would not have allowed this, but it has been covertly circumvented. Understand that the banker’s (and politician’s) trusts and foundations are exempt from the income and inheritance taxes that they impose on American citizens. Also remember that the abolition of private property, a heavy progressive income tax, and abolition of inheritance, are the first three planks of the C*******t Manifesto.
There is not enough space to cover the Bankster’s (and politician’s) political subterfuge with the interconnections of the Bilderberg Group, CFR, TC, CIA, IRS , and tax exempt foundations. Nor their use of their world government apparatus; United Nations, International Monetary Fund, World Bank, NAFTA, WTO, GATA and etc. All used to establish and fund their NEW WORLD ORDER.
(The taxpayers have been held liable for TRILLIONS of “dollars” of the International Banking Cabal’s bad debts. European banks were bailed out via IMF US funding. The exact numbers , and too exactly who, is hidden from Congress. Another reason the Fed must be audited and fired)

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