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Mar 30, 2013 00:27:12   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/planned-parenthood-lobbies-for-post-birth-a******n/

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Mar 30, 2013 15:55:48   #
WhoIsJohnGalt
 
Now everyone can see why I, a quasi-objectivist, abhor oranizations like Planned Parenthood. Not only does Planned Parenthood receive unwarranted financial support from the Federal Government, they advocate murder using that money.

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Mar 30, 2013 16:09:31   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
Murder disguised as convenience...don't forget that!

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Mar 31, 2013 05:26:09   #
Poco624
 
Why is the life of a fetus more important than a life of a child? A fetus was given the name "Personhood", a child already is a person.

A******n is murder, so is a criminal with a gun. During the Newtown massacre 20 children ages 5 and 6 were gunned down and riddled with bullets from an assault riffle and very few Republicans have shown any remorse. They have called victims of gun violence "props", when a dad, who had lost his son asked for a ban on assault riffles, a heckler from the audience screamed "You are infringing on my 2nd amendment." The Republicans in Congress have threaten to filibuster any gun control legislation. By not extending background checks encourages criminals to have guns. Who are the real murderers here?

How can anyone with a soul tell a woman who has had a miscarriage she has to go to jail? You can't have a soul if you can tell a woman she has to carry a rapist baby, when doctors have said when a woman feels the movement of the baby in her, she relives the moment she was attacked.

I cannot beleve I am living in America, the land of the free, when a woman who has had a miscarriage goes to jail quicker than a criminal with a gun, a rapist, or a p*******e.

The p*******e Priest are being protected by the Vatican. When the rape victim in Ohio came forward she received death threats for revealing her rapist.

Republicans want to redefine the rape victim as the "accuser". Give the rapist parental rights and the right to sue the victim if she has an a******n.

Republicans do not want their guns controlled by the government. Women do not want their bodies controlled by the government.

Republicans claim to be the Small Government party. I say the only thing small about their government are the people. You have to be small, very small to fit in a womans uterus.

Only about 3% of what Planned Parenthood did was a******ns. Their main services where offering gynecological exams for low income women. They also offered nutritional information for new mothers, and any other service that a woman who can afford to pay for gets.

If there was as much enthusiam about getting illegal guns off of our streets as there has been about infringing upon a woman's right to say what happens to her body, this would be a very safe nation.

Taxpayers are paying $10 billion dollars a year for gun violence, and $100 billion dollars annually for unplanned pregnancies.

No background checks to prevent gun violence, and no birth control to prevent a******ns. GREAT PLANNING!!!

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Mar 31, 2013 09:05:26   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
You're so full of s**t, you must be brown from head to toe! I'll come back to this and explain it to you when I get back from work.

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Mar 31, 2013 10:27:54   #
Poco624
 
All I get are pictures of an a******n? I do not get any pictures of children whose bodies have been blown apart with an assault riffle? Your party promotes this since you do not want to extend background checks. And that allows criminals to have guns and go on murdering sprees.

A 6 month old baby was fatally shot in GA while her dad changed her diaper, a 13 month old was picked up out of her stroller and shot in her head in NY, and children are k*****g themselves everyday because of illiterate gun owners.

I did not advocate a******ns as birth control, I advocate for women to have the right to choose without the government crawling into her uterus.

You have just confirmed to me that a******n is the only way to murder. That means the fetus is in the woman's body and you can control what she does with her body. Take away her constitutional rights, take away the rights of her doctor, her husband, her family and any other right she may have. At this time that is none.

Controlling a women's body must put the strut in your steps, and controlling another man's wife must really make you strut.

You are the party of the "self serving drama queens" you have absolutely no requard for anyone elses rights, just your own. All I hear is about your 2nd amendment, when a background check has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment. If you own one gun your rights have not been infringed upon. No matter what you believe.

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Mar 31, 2013 15:46:59   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Poco, since you cannot seem capable of thinking or reasoning, I am going to end our little conversation. You are so lacking any ability to reason that it is pointless to talk with you. Have a nice Easter.

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Mar 31, 2013 16:27:56   #
Poco624
 
The most basic right we have is the right to live in our bodies. Our bodies are the most fundamental instruments we have to interact with the world. Governments can legislate or take away our homes, our food, our weapons, our books--but when governments begin to legislate or take away our bodies themselves, or to allow them to be taken away by others, they arrogate the power to control our very identities.

Tom Head

PS: The babies that are born today are probably babies of the Millennials, ages 18 - 30. The majority of this group v**ed for President Obama, and their babies will probably grow up to be Democrats. At this time there are about 1 million unplanned babies. So, thanks for the new generation of Democrats.

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Mar 31, 2013 19:19:34   #
Poco624
 
I h**e to burst your Republican bubble, but in 1973 Roe vs. Wade was ruled to be a woman's constitutional right to make her own choice by the SCOTUS. This ruling was under Richard Nixon, a Republican.

The SCOTUS consists of Republicans and Democrats. This isn't just a Dem's issue, it was a bipartisan issue.

Roe vs. Wade
http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/history/roe-v-wade.html

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Mar 31, 2013 21:29:53   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
As promised, I will now explain why you are full of s**t.

Poco624 wrote:
Why is the life of a fetus more important than a life of a child? A fetus was given the name "Personhood", a child already is a person. A fetus IS a child. There is no distinction. Therefore, a fetus IS a person. They are alive and growing.

A******n is murder, so is a criminal with a gun. You make no sense. During the Newtown massacre 20 children ages 5 and 6 were gunned down and riddled with bullets from an assault riffle It was a semi-automatic rifle. Only fully automatic rifles are classified "assault" weapons. and very few Republicans have shown any remorse. Please prove that statement. Use actual evidence, and not innuendo, hearsay, or opinion. They have called victims of gun violence "props", when a dad, who had lost his son asked for a ban on assault riffles Please learn to spell "RIFLE"., a heckler from the audience screamed "You are infringing on my 2nd amendment." Protester, not heckler. 2nd Amendment "shall not be infringed" takes precedence here. Sorry." The Republicans in Congress have threaten to filibuster any gun control legislation. And well they should! We're talking about the Constitution of the United States here! Not some mere law... By not extending background checks encourages criminals to have guns. Who are the real murderers here? The person who fired the gun unlawfully. Duh...um...derp.
Why is the life of a fetus more important than a l... (show quote)

Do you know how to write effectively? Seriously, you write terribly. There should only be one thought per paragraph, and you're going all over the place here. You started out well. You kept fetus/children to one paragraph (mostly). Then everything went to s**t. By my count you have 8 separate topic in your second paragraph. Do you really know what you are talking about, or are you just making random talking points? *sigh* Take an English writing class. I'm not going to teach you.

Poco624 wrote:
How can anyone with a soul tell a woman who has had a miscarriage she has to go to jail? This comes from out of left field? Where on earth did you come up with a concept like this? Of course she wouldn't have to go to jail. Miscarriages aren't a******ns. You also have a fundamental misconception of the concept of murder. To demonstrate murder, you have to establish intent. Unless induced, there is no intent with a miscarriage. When intent cannot be established, manslaughter comes next. This is responsibility for a death that your actions caused through negligence. Again, no actions are taken on the part of the woman having the miscarriage. No murder, no manslaughter, no CRIME. Consequently, no jail. You can't have a soul if you can tell a woman she has to carry a rapist baby You are definitely unsympathetic, but not soulless, when doctors have said when a woman feels the movement of the baby in her, she relives the moment she was attacked. You have committed a fallacy here. It is called "an appeal to emotion". Use of fallacy voids any conception of critical thinking...a flaw I find most often with liberals/progressives. Again, you have more than one subject in this paragraph.

I cannot beleve I am living in America, the land of the free, when a woman who has had a miscarriage goes to jail quicker than a criminal with a gun, a rapist, or a p*******e. Where do you come up with such bulls**t?

The p*******e Priest are being protected by the Vatican. When the rape victim in Ohio came forward she received death threats for revealing her rapist. You sure are random. What are you doing? Putting in as many hot topics as you know into one rant? You do a poor job of even demonstrating how they are related to each other (which they largely aren't). What does a p*******e priest have to do with a rape victim? You aren't logical.

Republicans want to redefine the rape victim as the "accuser". Actually, in a court of law, the rape victim IS defined as the accuser. You sure are ignorant. (An observation, based on available facts.) Give the rapist parental rights and the right to sue the victim if she has an a******n. Again, where do you come up with this bulls**t?

Republicans do not want their guns controlled by the government. Yes, that's because our highest law of the land says so. Read the 2nd Amendment. Women do not want their bodies controlled by the government. And there is nothing in the Constitution saying it can. Only the founding documents express a right that succeeds the right of a woman to control of her body.
Declaration of Independence wrote:
We hold these t***hs to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
I find it particularly poignant the order of these fundamental rights. Life comes before liberty, and liberty before pursuit of happiness. This was not a mistake. For to pursue happiness, one must have liberty. For one to have liberty at all, the must first have the right to life. That said, the right of a child to LIVE comes before the mother's right of liberty (of her body).


Republicans claim to be the Small Government party. There is no denying that they are just as guilty of creating larger government as are Democrats. In this regard, both parties are wrong. I say the only thing small about their government are the people. You have to be small, very small to fit in a womans uterus. Yet another example why you are full of s**t. You resort to yet another fallacy. You clearly have nothing to say about Republicans and small government, so you resort to a personal attack. In what way does this prove your point? In what way does this prove anything at all? What does it have to do with a woman's uterus? The more I read from you, the more I'm convinced that you're an i***t.

Only about 3% of what Planned Parenthood did was a******ns. Again you are coming out of left field. Where did Planned Parenthood come in to this conversation? That's right! Just now out of thin air! Are you just passing gas? Is that it? You have political IBS? Their main services where offering gynecological exams for low income women. They also offered nutritional information for new mothers, and any other service that a woman who can afford to pay for gets. You really need to do some historical research about Planned Parenthood and its founders. I'll give you a start. The founders were fans of eugenics. They h**ed the black race, and the intended to use PP to foster racial genocide...albeit voluntary. Look it up. It's a good read.

If there was as much enthusiam about getting illegal guns Hello McFly! *repeated hits to head* Is anyone home, McFly? Illegal guns? Really? Please define "illegal guns" off of our streets as there has been about infringing upon a woman's right to say what happens to her body, this would be a very safe nation. This is another pitiful example of a fallacy. This one is called a "red herring". Guns have nothing to do a woman's rights. I thought you liberals p***ed yourself on the use of logic? Where's the logic in using fallacious reasoning? Your own words negate the possibility of any rational person thinking you logical.

Taxpayers are paying $10 billion dollars a year for gun violence, and $100 billion dollars annually for unplanned pregnancies. Again, a red herring. Furthermore, there is no supporting evidence to your manufactured numbers...that don't even relate to each other. If anything, you are providing a supporting argument against state paid a******ns!

No background checks to prevent gun violence, and no birth control to prevent a******ns. GREAT PLANNING!!! You really love red herrings. In fact, you love fallacies of all kinds. You're just one giant fallacy factory aren't you? Please feel free to join in to the conversation when you grow up and learn how to say something that is actually relevant.
How can anyone with a soul tell a woman who has ha... (show quote)
In summation, you have poor writing sk**ls, you f**grantly use fallacies, and your statistics are of dubious pedigree. Yup. That pretty well sums it up. You are full of s**t.

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Mar 31, 2013 21:41:26   #
Rcki
 
Why do you people keep saying an assault rifle was used in the Newtown shootings? They were not. We already have gun laws that are not being inforced including background checks. These new universal background checks that the c*******ts are suggesting would be the start of door to door attempts to disarm law abiding citizens. If you don't see this or know this you are a fool. A******n is murder, just as much as some sick moron shooting innocent children with PISTOLS.
If the 55-60 million children had not been murdered through a******n over the years since roe v. wade, we would not have a national debt of 16 trillion dollars.

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Mar 31, 2013 21:51:17   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
Poco624 wrote:
All I get are pictures of an a******n? I do not get any pictures of children whose bodies have been blown apart with an assault riffle? You actually want this? You're sicker than I thought! You are truly demented. Your party promotes this since you do not want to extend background checks. And that allows criminals to have guns and go on murdering sprees. Newsflash, criminals don't do background checks! Derp.

A 6 month old baby was fatally shot in GA while her dad changed her diaper, a 13 month old was picked up out of her stroller and shot in her head in NY, and children are k*****g themselves everyday because of illiterate gun owners. All tragedies, but not grounds for altering the 2nd Amendment outside of an actual Amendment to revise the constitution. Also, I think the word you are looking for is "incompetent", not "illiterate". (Who's illiterate now?...hmmm?)

I did not advocate a******ns as birth control, I advocate for women to have the right to choose without the government crawling into her uterus. That would be uncomfortable. I'm having trouble imagining how we are going to fit the ENTIRE GOVERNMENT inside her uterus. That IS a logistical nightmare.

You have just confirmed to me that a******n is the only way to murder. That means the fetus is in the woman's body and you can control what she does with her body. Take away her constitutional rights, take away the rights of her doctor, her husband, her family and any other right she may have. At this time that is none. There is only one word to describe this entire paragraph...irrational.

Controlling a women's body must put the strut in your steps, and controlling another man's wife must really make you strut. There is only one word to describe this paragraph...illogical.

You are the party of the "self serving drama queens" you have absolutely no requard for anyone elses rights, just your own. All I hear is about your 2nd amendment, That's not true. There's also the 1st Amendment (which you liberals love to use...particularly the speech and press parts...only as suited by you. You call everyting else that disagrees with you "h**e speech". Let's not forget the 10th Amendment. This one is abused the most. Every time the government tries to add new powers (like climbing inside a woman's uterus) it violates the 10th Amendment. Obama Care is an example of a violation of the 10th Amendment. Also remember, the 2nd Amendment is YOUR amendment too. It's there for the purpose of resisting a tyrannical government. Strange thet you only see its tyranny when it suits your purposes. when a background check has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment. "Shall not infringe" If you own one gun your rights have not been infringed upon. Until they try to take it away, or otherwise regulate its availability...or the accessories that it can use.No matter what you believe.Belief has nothing to do with it. The founding fathers made their intent explicitly clear. I'm sorry if it's inconvenient for you, but the facts remain that they knew what they were doing. They anticipated people like you and made sure you couldn't disarm the people.
All I get are pictures of an a******n? I do not ge... (show quote)

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Mar 31, 2013 21:57:58   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
Poco624 wrote:
The most basic right we have is the right to live in our bodies. Our bodies are the most fundamental instruments we have to interact with the world. Governments can legislate or take away our homes, our food, our weapons, our books--but when governments begin to legislate or take away our bodies themselves, or to allow them to be taken away by others, they arrogate the power to control our very identities.

Tom Head

PS: The babies that are born today are probably babies of the Millennials, ages 18 - 30. The majority of this group v**ed for President Obama, and their babies will probably grow up to be Democrats. At this time there are about 1 million unplanned babies. So, thanks for the new generation of Democrats.
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Nice quote. It only amounts to opinion. As for your PS...it's full of crap (once again...not surprising given the source). You are predetermining an unknown that cannot be calculated given the number of years it takes for a child to mature. Mighty presumptuous of you.

To reiterate a point, I quote me:
memBrain wrote:
Only the founding documents express a right that succeeds the right of a woman to control of her body.
Declaration of Independence wrote:
We hold these t***hs to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
I find it particularly poignant the order of these fundamental rights. Life comes before liberty, and liberty before pursuit of happiness. This was not a mistake. For to pursue happiness, one must have liberty. For one to have liberty at all, the must first have the right to life. That said, the right of a child to LIVE comes before the mother's right of liberty (of her body).
color=blue Only the founding documents express a ... (show quote)

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Mar 31, 2013 21:59:21   #
memBrain Loc: North Carolina (No longer in hiding.)
 
Rcki wrote:
Why do you people keep saying an assault rifle was used in the Newtown shootings? They were not. We already have gun laws that are not being inforced including background checks. These new universal background checks that the c*******ts are suggesting would be the start of door to door attempts to disarm law abiding citizens. If you don't see this or know this you are a fool. A******n is murder, just as much as some sick moron shooting innocent children with PISTOLS.
If the 55-60 million children had not been murdered through a******n over the years since roe v. wade, we would not have a national debt of 16 trillion dollars.
Why do you people keep saying an assault rifle was... (show quote)


That is possibly true...though we would have higher rates of crime.

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Apr 3, 2013 11:32:28   #
EugenePatrickDevany
 
In March, a student pro-life club was denied official status at Johns Hopkins University because the Student Government Association determined the pro-life group would make other students feel uncomfortable in violation of the university's "harassment policy". Late term a******ns could be made more comfortable if the doctor did not have to dismember in the womb and could simply euthanize the unwanted after delivery. If there is no ethical difference in how the procedure is done, it is only logical that the comfort of the woman should be maximized.
Of course, I am personally grateful that things were not so easy when I was adopted as an infant years before Roe vs. Wade. I wonder if a pro-adoption group would violate the university's "harassment policy".

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